 Pressing the newsmakers for the honest answers. It's the Mike Husking breakfast on air and on iHeart radio News talk ZB. It is seven past seven on the morning Good morning if you're just joining us the Prime Minister straight into it this morning as well. It's a very good morning to you Good morning to you. Have the police been acting illegally in this lockdown? No, no, and the attorney general has been satisfied that all of the Undertakings we've put in place off the back of the epidemic notice and of course the national emergency powers of all being appropriately used and so No, we haven't had that concern Without getting into too much technical detail Of course along the way we've always been making sure that we're adding greater clarity to the use of those notices but actually Mike looking at the behavior of the public you'll have seen that People have been complying and I think they've been complying because they know it's for their health and their well-being So Mike Clements emails which have been leaked His concerns are misplaced No, so what I haven't seen the dates and again, I don't want to get into too much of the technicality around this We issued a notice an epidemic notice was issued by the Director-General of Health and then further clarity was given to the section 70 use of those powers Mike Overall though your question is whether or not nothing legitimately used my view is yes And greater clarity was put around that to us give us that assurance that they were being used appropriately and as you've seen from the evidence Most New Zealanders have been complying because they know they've been used for their best interest There's a question down the track Mike around whether or not epidemic notices generally fit for purpose for a pandemic And that's what some of the legal fraternity. I think have been raising questions. I'll come to that That's Andrew get us looking. Why don't you release Crown Laws opinion? Oh Look, that's that's a matter for the Attorney-General He deals with but he says he's not going to why not because we tend not to to release Things that are private legal advice that we receive but I leave those decisions to the Attorney-General As far as Andrew get us as concerned He speaks more broadly beyond the police that this whole thing might have been illegal when you're talking about containing people who are not ill and Shutting businesses who don't want to be shut. Are you confident hand-on-heart that this is illegal that this is I am Confident but I think what the the general issue they're raising around epidemic notices or the way that legislation is designed It's generally designed for individuals as opposed to a global pandemic And so as with everything like I do think we need to take a step back in the aftermath and just look at whether or not Some of that legislation was fit for purpose We've also been very explicit that as we move down the alert levels actually we probably need specific enforcement powers We shouldn't rely on powers that are there for us for that really emergency star situations When we are into more of the management of COVID-19 we need to give a separate legal footing to some of those powers So we're working on that