 Before we get into the video today, I just want to give a quick shout out to one of our sponsors, Nostik TV. Nostik TV is ancient wisdom reimagined. This is a Netflix for those who are spiritually curious and want a place to go where there is no censorship. I personally am doing a whole series on Nostik TV called The Esoteric Explorer where I am providing exclusive content to Nostik. Nostik TV is a host to all sorts of different content creators, many of whom are your old favorites. If you would like to check out Nostik TV, there is a link down in the description box below. Everybody, welcome back to our weekly coffee chats. It is on my channel and I am joined today with my co-host, Catherine Edwards and a friend, since this is a coffee chat. We've got a friend with us to talk about some pretty cool stuff like we're sitting in a little cafe just having some coffee, having some girls chat. But instead of gossip, we're going to be talking about how we better ourselves and how we take control of the situation that we are in with the global elite. But before we get into that, I wanted to say something. I know Catherine, you have dealt with this before and Laura, get ready because I know you've opened up a YouTube channel. All those links will be down in the description box below. But it was brought to my attention last night that there are some fake accounts in my name that have been opened up specifically on Telegram. And I do not have a Telegram channel for my channel Esoteric Atlanta. The only place you're going to legitimately find me is Instagram, both Esoteric Atlanta on Instagram and then my own personal Instagram account. And then I have YouTube, Rumble and Patreon. That is it. So any other and most of my social media accounts guys are in my channel's name and Esoteric Atlanta's name. Not my only have one personal account Instagram. That's in my name that I've had forever. Everything else is in my channel's name. I will never personally message you and ask for money that's never going to happen. I hardly ever check my Instagram messages to have so many of them that I get overwhelmed. I need a secretary, but you know, right now you do it all. So please, if somebody is messaging you asking you for money under my name, that is not me. Please do not give your money to strangers on the internet. Anything that I sell, same with Catherine, we don't grift. We actually have products like Gnostic TV is a product that you can you can purchase a membership for. And that's a legitimate product, a legitimate business. Any type of yoga courses that are being sold is a legitimate business. I'm never just going to ask you for money. So please be very careful with with the nefarious people on the internet. And as Catherine said, what they tend to do, Catherine, is what they block you. So we don't know. I've had this a lot on Telegram, YouTube and Instagram. And the only way you find out is when someone tells you because they said to block you so you can't see it come up. And it's a real issue because the platforms are really, really slow at dealing with it. So just be really careful. Same with me. I do, you all know about the products I talk about as a health and wellness coach, but I would never ever. I do message people. I use Instagram a lot. My Instagram account is really active, but it's only ever answering health related questions for people. Never asking for donations. Never offering personal readings. And if I offer a consult, it directs people through to my Catherine Edwards dot life website where you can see it's all kosher and a broad board on there. But unfortunately, it's a weekly occurrence and you do people need to be really careful. Yes, I also want to clear up too. I know there's people that are saying that there's an account on Telegram with my name claiming that I have some military number and I'm working undercover to like take down the deep state and all that. Can I have code names and all that kind of stuff? That's not true, you guys. I mean, Catherine has known me for a while now. Am I working for the military, Catherine? Oh, no. I am under the command of my dog and that is the one that rules the house. So, yeah, so please don't be fooled, you guys. My name is Bryce. That is my legal name. I probably should have gone under a different name, but that is my, you know, what you see is what you get with me. So please just be very, very careful. Use your discernment. There's a lot of scam artists out there in the world, unfortunately, and they will try to. If you have a pretty decent sized platform, unfortunately, we see it with celebrities too. They will try to use your name to get money for themselves. Just please don't give. Same thing like Catherine was saying, like Gnostic TV, I see all these things that promote us and we promote. They have our links in our description box and you to the actual business like where you can talk to a representative. You can talk to customer service. You can look their websites up a legit business. It's never just, hey, I need a hundred bucks. I do understand that there is a scam going around where people are asking you to pay $500 for med bed training and it's telepathic med bed training. You would think that would be pretty obviously a scam, but for a lot of people, they've gotten so deranged in this. The cabal has done a very good job with infiltrating our community and deranged people and made them a little crazy. People are actually paying, sending $500 to this, whatever it is, is PayPal or whatever it is for telepathic med bed training. You guys, no, no, no. Anytime you buy a product, you should actually have a product. Just be very careful, you guys. I don't want to interrupt anybody's karma. That's something we don't want to interrupt anybody's karma, but I do want to actually, what's it? My teacher at India would say one time telling, two time telling, three time, God telling. So this is just considered, this is our one and two time telling. So I was like, you guys, just be very wary of what's going on out there in the world. Speaking of the chaos of the world, we have our friend, Laura with us, who has just opened up two YouTube channels. Before we get into it, Laura, will you just quickly tell people the name of both of your channels? Sure. So I have Laura McGrath vlogs that will just be following me on my journey moving to the UK. And then I have strictly property. So hopefully a bit down the track, I'll get some more up on there. And that'll just be property details that I'll be doing. Awesome. Well, I know this is the first time I just introduced Catherine to Laura off camera because I was telling, I've been telling Catherine about you, Laura, because I am literally so impressed by you as a person. When I was your age, do you mind telling people how old you are? I'm 29. When I was your age, I was not doing what you know. So, and you basically, if you guys, and I will put a link to the episode I did with Laura last week in the description box below, so you can hear the long format if you want. And I'm actually going to pass it over to Catherine too, because she's my co-host. And Laura, you basically are kind of doing, Catherine and I have been like kind of beating a dead horse. Like, why are you guys waiting for some mythical, magical thinking of these white hats coming in to save you while you're getting poor and poor and poor and sicker and sicker and sicker instead of actually waking up and doing this for yourself? So where do you want to start with this, Catherine, with Laura, with her experience? Well, I'm really excited about this today, Laura, because one of the things I think is nothing better than showing people real-life examples of people that are actually doing it. Because so many people, Bryce and I, talk this about a lot. You see the finished article of where someone's accent of 20 years down the line, not at the start of it. So we are desperately on a mission to get people to reclaim their health, their wealth, their freedom. And this is something that you are really involved in. So I'd like to start by sort of saying, you're investing in property, yeah, and teaching people how to do it. What got you started on this journey? It started back when I was at uni. I just started reading a lot of like personal development self-help books. And I just really kind of resonated more towards the property side when it came to the wealth side of it. So I started just educating myself on that. And, you know, I did start finding out about how like the banking systems and things are working back when I was maybe 18, 19. So I started to figure out what was going on. And I kind of just looked at and said, like, well, what can I do? I can, the only thing I could really do is kind of work on myself, you know, my mindset and my, I guess, my finances. Because that's really what they're targeting. They're really targeting that. So, yeah, I started learning. I ended up doing a mentorship in property. I actually did two mentorships in property. I did one in 2017 for New Zealand and then one in 2019 for the UK. So it's just been a long process of just figuring out what was going on, figuring out what I could do, figuring out what I enjoyed doing, and just taking that power back and seeing what, you know, what was in my power. And this was investing in property, is it, so that you can really be independent of the banks? Yeah. So you still need the banks, you still do need the banks for certain things. But I guess it's figuring out what assets I could invest in that were going to give me cash flow so that I could have freedom of time and make more money. Because the thing about property investing is, you know, every single time you do a deal, you're increasing your income. Every single deal is an increased income. And if you're doing it, say, let's say, a buy, refurbish, refinance, you can purchase a property, blow market value, renovate it, refinance it right after the renovation is done, pull that money out, have that property then rented out, cash flowing, and then take that money and put it right into another property. So I started figuring that out. And I think one of the people that I've really, that I followed a lot was Robert Kiyosaki. And he talked a lot about property and cash flow. And he was definitely an integral part of my journey. And his book, Rich Dad, poured out. Yeah. We talked about that in our, with the interview I did with you last week, Laura, and I actually was saying off-camera that I got off with you and I walked out to my boyfriend. I'm 40. I'm about to be 41 years old. And I was like, I need to read that book because, and I like how you said, Laura, that you were looking into your, you started off just looking at like self-help, you know, like shadow work, figuring out who you were. And that opened the door. And then we talk about that a lot, like mindset, being healthy. And when you can ground into yourself, and I know that might sound funny for people who've never done this before, but when you start to ground into yourself and work on yourself, everything in your world starts to shift, doesn't it? Oh, yeah. You see, you perceive things differently, really differently. And you start to have more confidence in yourself instead of being chaotic within yourself. Now you showed us a book before we started filming. Do you want to show the audience this other book? Oh, yeah. Okay. It might be a bit blurry. Let's see if I can, it's called the road to ruin, the global elites plan for the next financial crisis. And it was actually, I was listening to Robert Kiyosaki's podcast, the rich dad radio show, and he actually recommended this. So it does talk about the plan for, I guess, as you can see there, the end of the fiat monetary system. And that was actually the book that talked about what the wealthy people, the elites are doing. And that's the book that actually talked about they had gold, property, and art. And that was how they were maintaining their wealth through all of the different economic crises that we've experienced throughout history. I love that. I absolutely love that. I want to take you back to the mindset side of things because there's a lot of people watching that are really inspired. They want to do something. They want to take their power back. I just actually sent just before the show a mindset interview that I'd done with a colleague of mine who's very good on the health and wellness side of the mindset. But mindset is mindset regardless of where you apply it to. So with your mindset, talk us through some of your real wins that are going to help people. And also, have you had resistance? Have you had people saying you can't do this and how have you dealt with that? I've certainly had a lot of people say I can't do it. I guess I just had to have that self-belief because I didn't do well at school. I think that's where a lot of it started. I didn't do well at school and I think the teachers didn't believe in me. And so I had to get to the point where I left school and I had to believe in myself. So I started just, actually I started studying a lot about what successful people's habits were. And that's when I actually started reading. I did not enjoy reading at school, but I just knew that I wanted a change in my life. So I started figuring out what successful people were doing. And a lot of them tell you exactly what they did. They put the formula out there. So reading books to kind of change my mindset. I remember just having, just talking to myself a lot, not in a weird way, but I remember being like, oh, I've always admired those people who had confidence. What's the difference between them and me? There's no difference. I can be confident. And it's just those little subtle things that kind of shift and change over time who you are. And just listening to a lot of different content. I enjoy a lot of like Bob Proctor, his kind of content as well. So I found that a lot of books, just what you're consuming, impacts the way you're going to process your external reality. Yeah. So that makes sense. Oh, it makes such sense in all these people. So I got into all those sort of people years and years ago. So so many people snag off traditional education, but I've been so lucky. I was talking about this with, I can't remember, someone else was interviewing me this week. And I think because I was the first member of my family that had ever had the opportunity to go to university, not because my parents weren't clever and things, well, my mum hated education, but my dad would have loved the opportunity. But he got sent out at 14 because he was the eldest son and he had to earn an income for the family. So he never got the opportunity. So I always had a lot of inbuilt gratitude for my education at a time when I didn't know that gratitude was a thing, if that makes sense. I was just really grateful that I was being given these opportunities that no one else in my family had had. And when I started my master's degree, we got into all of this stuff. And this was a long while ago. I did that when I was having both my children. So 20 plus years ago. And it's completely life changing, isn't it? Laura, when someone gives you a different view on things and we talk about this the whole time, well, what if what I've been told is right? But what I want to pick up on for you, because I love this bit about you, is you were very away to the conspiracy side of things. And we call it conspiracy, which was ridiculous because we all now know it's not conspiracy most of it. So how have you kept on your awareness, should we call it, rather than conspiracy journey of what's going on and use that to motivate you into action? Because I think that can be a missing link for people. I guess I just looked at it as it was, it was, I was going down the rabbit hole and I was like, well, what can I do? What can I do in this situation? There's all these terrible things happening, but it's on such a grand scale and it's all, I didn't know anybody else who was talking about it at the time. So I was like, there's nothing I can actually do from that perspective, but I can control myself and I can control if I'm learning about these things, what can I do to safeguard my future and the future of friends and family? So I just started studying what they were doing so that when I could see things play out, let's say, you know, the whole of 2020, when I could see things play out, I had a different understanding and perspective of it so that I could then empower myself and be like, hey, no, I'm not going to do that because I understand what you're trying to do and I don't agree with it. So it's having that awareness of what's going on, but then taking that control of your life and taking control of what you can control. That's just, that's just my perspective. So. And that's something I might talk about a lot because I was just telling you ladies before we hit record, this past Monday, I covered Rasputin and his, the cults that developed around his wiener. So it's quite a fun, a fun, fun episode, but I then presented on Monday's on Aquarius Rising Africa and I was saying that when I was studying his life and studying what was happening, I realized that what was going on around the time of his murder and the time that the Tsar and the Tsarino were executed with the honest, the honest, the story, all that kind of stuff, that what was happening in St. Petersburg, which was the capital of Russia at that time, mimics, mirrors what's happening to us globally. And the problem was, is that the citizens, and I'm not blaming the citizens of Russia, but I think it is our responsibility, speaking of education, to understand history so we don't repeat it. So we learn from these mistakes. And these, these people of Russia were so, you know, the Tsar and Tsarino were so just, you know, opulence, just so wealthy and the people were so poor that there was this aggression against the elite. And so they relied on the Volkovich to like save them. They were looking towards this other group to come in and save them, which we all know what happened. They didn't save them. They brought in communism, the USSR, which was horrific. I have many friends through India, through my university that I met who grew up under that system and just horrific stories. And what I'm seeing now is the same thing is happening. People are so angry about the elite for rightful reasons, but they're relying on this magical thinking that some white hats are going to come in and save them, going to bring them money, going to bring them health, the same things that was promised to the Russian people by the Volkovich that that now we're seeing from the white hats. And from my perspective, they're both two sides of the same coin. And in order to just put the coin aside completely is you taking that power back yourself. What's the point of waking up if you're it's like, you know, when you're a little kid and you fall asleep in the car or you fall asleep on your sofa and your parent picks you up and carries you to bed? Well, I kind of feel like people are trying to sleep on the sofa and allow the white hats to pick them up and carry them to bed versus waking up and actually doing it themselves. And you made a good point, Laura, that you studied what people like the Rothschilds, these big families were doing. Like how were they not the nefarious stuff guys, not the religious stuff they do, but like what were they doing business wise? How are they playing this game? And you said, okay, well, I'm going to take that information and I'm going to do it too. I'm going to play the game too. And we saw an example of this with GameStop. When that happened, what, like two years ago that happened year and a half ago that happened where people figured out we're seeing it now if you're watching the AMC stuff going on. My boyfriend has stock in AMC and he's holding out because the investors did something illegal and they're hoping people will just cash in and they're not, they know what's going on so they're just holding out to make the people, the bad guys actually have to be accountable. So people are, that's what taking your power back is, right? It's like, this is all just a tool. All it is is a tool, right? The stock market, it's all a tool. Money is a tool. It's an exchange. And so when you learn how to play their game, they don't have as much power anymore. It's like when you have two sports teams and one's the underdog and one dominates. But if the underdog team really works hard and figures out what makes this team so strong, they have a fair chance of having an equal playing field, right? And so it's just brilliant what you've done. It's brilliant. And it's, you're right. There's nothing that any one person can do to stop the atrocities and what's going on. But we can start to take their power away from them. And you said that, you know, that people would talk about people like, you know, putting you down, making it seem like you're not ever done. We have a guest star. She can come on the camera. You know, people making you feel like you're not good enough or something. And what's that famous saying where the devil whispered in my ear and said, you can't handle the storm? And I turned around and looked at the devil and said, I am the storm. I am the storm. I have that on my necklace here. I am the storm. I feel like it's, collectively, we're all the white hats. We're all here to play a part. And if we're all playing our parts, it's going to work together in like a really symbiotic, in a symbiotic way, I think, to kind of move us in the trajectory. Because as well, like you get what you focus on. That's what they always say, right? So if we're focusing on the things that they want, then how are we going to bring about a world where it's, you know, that fourth density positive world? You know, if we're focusing on that and we're focusing on what we can do, health, wealth, happiness, from that perspective, then that's what we're going to get. Yeah, I agree. I agree. So much. It's so cool. So for people watching, Laura, I know Bryce is going to put the link to your full interview, but talk us through in a nutshell what your aim is now with the property. And is this going to be what you're covering on your property YouTube channel so that other people can follow you and help learn how to do it too? Yeah, I mean, I'm going to, so I'm going to be going to the UK, my plan, actually, I don't mind saying exactly what my plan is. If it happens the way it happens, I'll be stoked, but if it doesn't, I'll just pivot and rotate. But my plan is to get there and get what's called rent to rent deals, whereby I went out of property from someone under a corporate let, and then I can rent that out under short stay accommodation and I net the difference. So I don't have service. I won't have service ability. I can't get a loan. So that's what I can do. And then I can also do things. What's what's called deal sourcing. So finding deals for other people as well. And then hopefully after a few months, I can actually purchase a deal, but yeah, so I'm sorry. I'm just completely banked for a second. But that's what I plan on doing. Each deal is going to cash flow more and more. And I'm just kind of doing the vlog channel to show everybody exactly what it's going to be like from the beginning and just show them that they can do it too. Like I'm just a normal person and I'm just starting from the get go. I've done one deal here. I've worked for a developer, but it's been a long, a long journey. And I will say Catherine, I've had the I've had the Laura did our media course and I had the privilege of seeing her first ever video, which she hasn't, you haven't loaded it yet. Have you your first video? No. And money is not my math. Math is really not my, my, my, I laugh because I come from a family of doctors and it's kind of a joke that like I got none of that. I don't understand chemistry. I don't understand numbers. I, the English philosophy person, I, if I didn't look like my family, I would swear I was the milkman's child, but I looked just like them. But, but, you know, that's so when I, when I can talk deep philosophy and theory, but when it comes to economics and that kind of stuff, I, I kind of, you know, remember the Charlie Brown with the teachers were like, that's kind of what happens in my head. But when I watched Laura's video, she explained it in such a way that it made sense and it was so empowering the way that you taught, you know, the way that you explained it to people, you did not talk over the audience. You did not make it sound like this type of job is for people who are rocket scientists and understand the way you explained it, it made, so the person that's down the street that, that doesn't think they're wealthy enough or smart enough to do something like that, you're empowering people say, no, actually, it's pretty simple. Let me explain it to you in layman's term as to what to do and you're walking people video through video on how to actually showing yourself doing this. And that's, I think that's so inspiring. Like I love reading stories about like people who go on weight loss journeys, people who, who change their lives. It's so inspiring because you are, we, we covered this on my channel, but this will be on my channel too, the last interview, but let's just knock it out one more time, Laura. Do you come from a trust fund? Do you have a trust fund funding you? No, absolutely not. I did it from scratch. I went to uni, I got a job as an accountant. I did that for a few years while studying property on the side. I basically, the way that I was able to purchase my first deal was because I learned how to trade crypto and I invest in the crypto market and from that I was actually able to have a deposit for my first deal. So absolutely not. I'm doing this from, from nothing and just working my way up. And it is, it's always inspiring. I mean, I think about like my three favorite movies, like I don't watch a lot of movies or TV anymore, but my three favorite movies are the blind side, the founder and the pursuit of happiness and I'll put any one of those on and it always inspires me to kind of just keep going for my dreams. I just love those kind of motivational movies. So yeah, I just think it's so important because, you know, for anyone watching this, as you said, Laura, property is your passion. Everyone's got their passion and it's really, really important now for people to turn that passion into something that benefits them because just like we've used this analogy so many times and took me years to get it as a mom. I was like, why would I not put the oxygen mask on my children first? But you have to be in a position where you're not controllable or less controllable because we're all controllable to some degree. But you have, well, that's probably not true, but that's probably where I am at the moment. You know, I do still need some bits from the system to function in a daily life. But I think the more you empower yourself, the more you can help others. And this is why I'm so excited to see your YouTube channel because this is so important to follow the start journey and see it. And also, I really love what you said then, Laura, that this is my plan. I'm going to share it. I'm going to put it out there. And if it doesn't come off, that's fine. I'll pivot. And this is what life's about, isn't it? Is having that confidence to say, I'm going to go for my dream, but I'm open to everything else as well. Yeah. And stepping outside of my comfort zone, like moving across the world is definitely stepping outside of my comfort zone. But I've found that every time you do that, you kind of grow and learn from it and it always, the rewards are there. So anytime you experience that friction, right, that friction, people will run from it. But if you actually stay in the friction, you'll see the spark of light and you'll see the inspiration and you'll see the focus. And I will say, you know, one of my favorite motivational movies is Legally Blonde because I love, I love when he's like, oh, you got into Harvard and she's like, what, like it's hard? And I love that attitude like, Laura, you're doing investment property. What, like it's hard? Like if you just had that attitude, you know, one of the teacher I had in you because I was stronger yoga is extremely complicated. It's very physically taxing, standing up with your leg behind your head, doing front and hand, but it's a very hard practice. And I saw a teacher once with a student in the mice room, like talking to the student through catching her legs in a back band. And I saw a video, the teacher goes, this is easy for you. This is easy for you. And I thought, wow, that teacher in that moment just had that student change their perspective. And so I've been doing that in my classes. When I'm working with someone that I can see, they can actually do it, but their mind's getting in their way. I'll say, this is easy for you. It's easy for you. And usually they'll do it. And it's just that, changing that perspective, right? And that goes back to that mindset where we know the bad guys have tried to dumb us down and make us feel like we're insignificant. But if we just change that, we just change that. We are that fractal of light. We have that creative energy space. And I think I'm going to title this video who are the white hats? Because ladies, who are the white hats? All of us, all of us, we all are. And so, I want to also ask you Laura as well about your desire to share this knowledge. How important is that to you and why? Oh, so it is important because I guess if I think about my last, let's say 10 years, there's been so many people who've put out so much content, whether it be books, podcasts, videos that have all helped me learn. And I'm like, well, it's just, I feel like it's my duty to kind of repay that too. And I'm coming at it from a different angle. Like I'm moving across the world, across to the UK from Australia. I'm doing it from scratch. I've done one deal and I'm doing the rest basically from scratch because that was a purchase and I sold. So I just thought it's kind of like my duty to kind of show. And it's all, it's always good to help other people. It just makes you feel good when you can, if I can help somebody do this and change their life, that'll be very rewarding for me. Cause I do, I think everyone can do it and it's breaking down the barrier of, you know, people looking at someone and saying, oh, well that person can do it. I can never do it. It's kind of breaking down that barrier of like, no, you can do this. Anyone can do this. And it's going to be there and it's going to be for me from the very beginning. So you'll see it all happen. The good, the bad and the ugly. Do you know what's so, which has hit me in the law of one talks about this on the, cause the negative side and the good side use the same tools. Now obviously the good side is not doing the religious rituals that the negative side is, but as far as like, you know, what we do and how even with, with occultism, even with the divination, even the spiritual stuff as well as business stuff, we all use the same tools. But you know what the big difference is? The negative side works off of an elite system of pecking order. So they keep their trade, they seek their trade secrets. They keep their tools very closed off to themselves. The positive side always shares, always because we're service to others. So the fact that you feel that longing to like share, not just keep the secret for yourself and become rich by yourself and not tell anybody so you can dominate people, but actually being like, guys, we can all do this. Like we can all do this. That shows your intention as, as a soul that you want to serve others. And I just, as you were saying that, I was like, you know what, that just reminded me that that's one of the differences between the negative and the positive is we share our secrets. We share them. We teach people. The elite dot. There's enough for everyone. It's a world of abundance. Like it's not, it's, it's not a world of lack. It's a world of abundance. There's enough for everybody. There's enough to go around. This is such an important point. I really want to pick up on, and I'm so pleased you raised that Laura because this is a fundamental shift because a lot of the things we're talking about, they're really easy to talk about, aren't they? We can all read the books, listen to the podcast, which is the best starting place. But when you then step out of that and start into the doing, it's a different sense of inner knowing, isn't it? What's that journey been like for you? It's for me, it's probably been a long one of kind of deciding what I want to do and just integrating all that knowledge and putting it into practice, like putting myself outside of my comfort zone and putting it into practice. And over time, you just learn that it integrates. Like if you told me, you know, when I first started this, that I'd be out here talking about property like this, I probably wouldn't have believed you, but it's just, well, I'm, no, I probably wouldn't have, but it's just a case of just integrating it and taking those small actions to make it your reality. Just that little bit by little bit, just taking those small actions, getting out there for me, it was like networking, it was just consuming as much and learning as much as possible and just kind of becoming that person and integrating that knowledge. Over time, if you're doing, if you're working towards that trajectory, it does become your reality. That's, that's the manifestation of it all. But yeah, you have to kind of put that work in to what you want to achieve for it to manifest as well. Cause it's not just going to happen overnight. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, Kevin. Well, the integration, as you were saying that, Catherine, we've said many times, don't ever compare your chapter one to somebody else's chapter 10 and just starting and just like you read that one book, doesn't mean tomorrow, you're going to be a millionaire with a bunch of properties. And in that journey of learning, how to do it on your own, you learn even more about yourself and you gain even more insight and you gain it even more on this journey called life. And yeah, I had a professor in college that used to say, go have a little think. They will be discussing something. He'd be like, no, no, no, just go have a little think. And even in the Bible, we set see that from Jesus or Yahshua where he says, meditate on these things, meditate on the, what does that mean? Integration. Think about it. Let it be, settle into your psyche and then slowly start doing, if that makes sense. So I love that. Yeah, I talk about it and some of my ones I think we're going to do with Danielle where, you know, it's almost like you've got two legs and if you're just doing the learning, learning, learning, you're just going to be hopping everywhere or go around to the circle, but you've got to learn, integrate, learn, integrate with your fingers. And if my screen keeps wobbling, it's because Mitzi Katz pushing my computer off. So it's not a ghost. I don't think although there could be one in here anyway, but she's keeping it away. But this learning and integrating and trying and it's all about having fun with the journey. So the final question I've got for you Laura is how do you handle the fear side of things? Because that's a big one for everyone at the moment, particularly those of us that are on this discovery journey of what's really going on. So how do you take this knowledge but not embody the fear side of it or deal with it? I think it's because I've because I've learned about what their intent is and what they're trying to do. I think just having the knowledge that that's what's happening helps me to kind of perceive in a different way to take to make different choices, I guess. You know, I the fear or not or the lack thereof is very much in your own control. So I just try to I just I try to stay away from the fear porn as much as possible. Just kind of gain the facts. But it is it's definitely just your own perception of reality in your own however you choose to to react to it. You're in control of your reaction to anything. So I guess that's the best I could say it's just it's it's an internal it's an internal thing. There's no need to fear just if you have that knowledge then you can empower yourself to take a different path. Yeah, and I think whenever people get afraid of making changes like what's the worst thing that's going to happen if you screw something up. If you learn from that, you know what was that saying? Fall down seven times get up eight. You know, when you were you know with people we say you know fear is false evidence appearing real or forget everything and run but I prefer false evidence appearing real and you're right. It's that perception and it's it's that it's again that that confidence of I had somebody tell me once a long time ago sometimes in life you have to fake it until you make it sometimes when you're not feeling confident you just have to pretend to be confident until the confidence then comes and I actually think in that situation sometimes that's not good advice to fake it until you make it but in that situation that that you know when that fear is there and that's what that's what being courageous is right and this is definitely a time in the world where we're being asked to be courageous and to be brave a courageous and brave person is not someone that's not feeling fear a courageous and brave person is someone who fears feels the fear and does it anyway a brave and a courageous person is someone who is shaking because they're so scared but they do it anyway and that's what we've been asked and I know in my experience in life Laura and Kathy you guys can probably attest to this too in your lives the times where I've been afraid of something but I've done it anyway have been the ended up working out and to be the most magical experiences of my life because I proved to myself too more than anything that I'm stronger than I think I am you know I remember when I first went to India my first trip to India and I walked up to I had gone all the way to India settled in walked to the Shala was about to go to my first class and I remember thinking my my belly but like flipping I had flipping belly butterflies and I was like I can't do this and I like froze in front of the Shala and it was like no just take one more step in just take one more step in just walk through the door just walk just do the first practice if it's a disaster you can go home after that you know so it's it's just kind of facing yourself isn't it in that moment and realizing that fear isn't real you know it's just your perception of you wanting of staying in a comfort zone that makes sense I mean yeah absolutely for me like I was nervous to go to my first property event because I was so used to going to things with my friends of course none of my friends were interested in any of this so I was I was nervous I'm like you know what this is just something I feel like I need to do I really want to learn about property I just need to just I've just got to do it and I've just kept going you know it's just it's as you say feeling the fear and doing it anyway and everything you want is just on the other side of fear so and that's what I'm getting at I'm learning well and you've really put the effort in which unit doesn't matter what aspect whether it's yoga whether it's transforming your health whether it's transforming your wealth you do have to learn those basic skills just like we all had to learn to walk and crawl and climb and drive a car and all the other skills that we've got and different languages you know you've got to put in that effort but it's so worth it isn't it when it's passion project and when it's going to transform have such a big impact on your life absolutely well I'm really looking forward to coming to the UK I can't wait to meet up in person you're not going to be that far from me and I really really can't wait to follow your journey on both your YouTube channels I'm equally interested in both of them so thank you so much Laura I know I'm excited and Laura when you post your first video you just shoot us a text and we'll post it on our community tabs because again you guys I've seen the first episode and I cannot wait to see what else Laura is it was very inspiring and I learned a lot and I actually felt more confident and myself when I like I can you know what the math side of this the finance something I thought I could never do I was like you know what maybe I can't do this because she made it sound different than what my teachers have and you know and some super super super excited so guys again I'm going to be go ahead and subscribe to Laura's channel I know she's kind of waiting until she gets the UK where she's kind of settled but go make sure you go ahead and subscribe so that once she starts dropping videos it'll pick up in your algorithm and I will have all those links down there of course I'll have Catherine's links as well once again you guys we are the white hats there's no other person out there you are the white hat don't let those controlled opposition those Trojan horses those other people make you believe that you don't have to do anything because that's not the point of waking up the point of waking up is literally waking up and realizing that you are the storm you are magic in a bottle and you have everything at your fingertips if you just wake up and realize it to change to change your own personal world and I will remind you again like we said in the beginning don't fall any for for any fake accounts guys if it doesn't seem like it's us it's probably not us so just be very careful also something I forgot to mention at the beginning which I'll mention now now until January 2nd 2024 Gnostic TV is offering a 12 month 12 months of a full Gnostic platform for only $50 for the first 250 people who use the code word Shala when checking out that Shala S-H-A-L-A that's only $50 for 12 months of Gnostic TV I'm on Gnostic TV Catherine's on Gnostic TV so guys it's a new platform that's cheap like $50 for a whole year that's freaking cheap you guys so when you check out link is in the description box below when you check out just put Shala in it check out first only for the first 250 people they do have gift cards so if you want to give somebody a Gnostic membership for Christmas it's right there now Catherine do you still have some events coming up for yourself too to add like a do you still have your call your your help class coming up for Yeah, I have got I have got my happy got happy you course that is absolutely fantastic we're getting some amazing results on this and I am launching it will be up hopefully on the website over the next week but I'm launching my this is my passion project it's a complete gut health and lifestyle health empower yourself course so we're covering nutrition we're covering water sleep exercise mold toxicity like mindset all these different things in a fully supported program this is phenomenal this is something I've worked through with clients on an individual basis a lot so I'm putting it together in a program so people can get that support but also goes through it at their own pace so this is exactly what we've been talking about today it's like you know what take the power back you can do it and when you've got some support you through that process it just makes it a lot easier so I'm really excited thank you that's going to be I'll put your website up Catherine do you offer gift cards for people that might want to get something absolutely so I can get gift cards and there's all sorts different options as well so you know don't hesitate to reach out for me if you need a payment plan or something like that but I'm on a mission like we've talked about all year to sort of really get people when you're physically strong emotionally strong when you can see because what this course cover covers as well is where all these problems coming from why are people having all these issues because no no one that's not a psychopath would even think of putting what they think put in our food and water and air so it's not it's none of the fear form it's like just be aware these are the pressures and therefore this is what you can do about it good job so you guys and I will say too all I just feel like I need to say this again Catherine's diet for animals for dogs it has literally changed my dog like my dog had your problems mean he's coming from a different country anyway so his his line of dogs are used to eating the way Catherine suggests to eat because they were sweet dogs and then even my boyfriend is just amazed at like how healthy Robbie is now his ears don't bother him anymore he we thought he just didn't have her on his chest you could actually see the first dog I ever owned where you could see his belly button and now he's got hair on his chest like a full grown man so so he's better with other dogs now because has Catherine explained when their nutrition isn't that great they feel more um they feel more like their their prey instead of you know so we think he kind of little yeah he wait now that his health is good he's actually not not he only gets cocky when he's got a new he loves clothes my dog loves clothes like we get a little sweaters and he loves he gets so excited he gets a little cocky when he gets a new and he likes to show it off so so so that's another great option too wanna do the best thing for their pets you can get a gift card to Catherine's courses because they really like changed like changed my dogs I will never buy kibble again for another animal like they literally changed I mean we look like we look like serial killers cause we have a freezer full of me too yeah we're going to buy kibble again hmm but um but alright you guys I will put all of Catherine's link down there I know you know Christmas is hard to buy gifts sometimes for people so these might be great ideas for somebody in your life if you're still like trying to figure out a gift to get them so alright you ladies well Merry Christmas to the both of you you're only a few days away so um and we won't be getting the next one of this swim when whippets in the UK so that will make a change yes yeah that would be great I can't wait Laura we're obviously we're going to have you back multiple multiple times and just um you guys I mean I'm just like I've said this off-camera sound I'm so impressed by Laura cause when I was your age you know so so um I'm just so impressed that you really took the initiative and figured out that you were the one that had to save yourself and I'm just I thank you so much for putting yourself out there and trying to help other people saying to you Catherine like it takes a lot to be brave and to put yourself out there and try in the hopes to help other people um live the best life they can live as well so thank you for helping me fantastic Christmas to the people yeah Christmas everyone alright