 What's up? How you doing? Hi. Good. Really? I didn't know that. What? Who are you talking to? No. We're having a conversation. It's not about you. That's funny. That's definitely a fake laugh. You're a fake person. Yeah. Hey, welcome back to our Stupid Direct Suits of Corbin. I'm fake. And you can follow us on Instagram, Twitter for more juicy content. Thanks to Patreon. Follow us for your Twitter account. Subscribe if you haven't. Hit the like button. Yeah. It helps the algorithm. Yep. Today we're doing a movie review. And a highly, highly anticipated film. Nice. It's upside down. Celsula. Is that how you pronounce that? Celsula. Celsula. Celsula. If you read it upside down. It's a-less-less. Good call. Yeah. The 1981 film. Remember that year? I do. Yeah. I was in my dad's ball bag. What was that like? Cold. Wow. Your dad's blue balls. Gotcha. Anyways. It's directed by the same director as the last film we just watched, Yash Chopra. Speaking of testicles and sperm. I thought it was really nice of Rihanna during the halftime show to do that number with all the sperm that didn't get in. It was great. It was lovely. Yeah. I just thought it was funny. Yes. Directed and produced and I believe screenplay was by Yash Chopra and starring just a few people who have no history at all. None. Amatak Bakchan. None whatsoever. Areka Jaya Bakchan and also Shashi Kapoor. Yep. As well in there. But obviously everybody in India, I'm pretty sure I've seen this film. I'm almost certain of it. Me too. And this will be obviously a hundred percent spoil of you. So if you don't watch it, we saw it on Amazon. You can see it there if you'd like. And if not, get ready to be spoiled. Your little spoiled little nut bags. What? Wow. I got doubts on the brain. I got doubts on the brain. You do. It was because Big B was sitting in the tub. That's it. Balls out. The tasty nuts. Balls out. He clearly has a better thing going on down there than Ricky Dervais because if it was Ricky Dervais, they would have been ballooning to the top and probably shot down by our Air Force. Probably. Anyway, Ricky, your initial thoughts of Silsala. Well, I just got to say this is probably my favorite moment in the film. Hold on. I'm trying to see this. Oh, the end. This guy, the dead guy who's obviously, I don't know, is he watching Netflix? What's he doing there in the plane? In the end part. Yeah. So I'm interested to know your thoughts. This thing's a hot mess. Yeah. This one, this one didn't, didn't float my boat. The one thing that did float my boat in both a good way and a bad way was just the inherent drama. Part of it is intriguing. Another part of it just reminds me of how important it is for actors' private lives to remain private because that can overshadow the roles that they're playing. That was what was really always preeminent for me watching it was the behind-the-scenes stuff that I know about, that life imitating art, imitating life, but taking that aside, I had a lot of, there were just a lot of things I had that were problematic for me in editing and in story and believability and so, yeah, no, this one for me wasn't anything. It was, I didn't like it. No, I liked this film. I enjoyed this film. You're so strange sometimes. I don't know what you were expecting from this film. It's a big Bollywood romance film. I know and I've seen quite a few that I really enjoyed. What were you expecting then? A film that, because it takes itself seriously so much, this isn't DDLJ, this isn't, you know, this takes itself very seriously. There's so many things that are just beyond the pale of believability. The end I definitely agree with. Yeah, not just at the end. The end was the cherry on the cake of a ton of stuff that just strained credulity. I didn't have a problem with any of the performances per se as far as the acting is concerned. I just, for a film that wanted to clearly be considered a serious romantic drama, this wasn't a rom-com. This was a rom-drom. It just had a lot of, just the basic problem I had was a lot of stuff with the story. A lot of the editing was super herky-jerky and ultimately just the final sequence of ridiculousness and we all live happily ever after with no rational justification for it. It just, I didn't take me in and make me care or make me believe what I was watching. Well, the end we'll get to. I am grateful for the fact. I didn't know this. Did you know that Big B was nominated for an Oscar before anybody else? His character was nominated for an Oscar in this. Oh, and that's, yeah. Yes. And I love how such a famous guy can go unnoticed everywhere he goes, pretty much, and can have an affair that no one else picks up on. Well, I mean, it was in 1980 and in India. Right, no one would know who he was if he was nominated for an Oscar. Yeah, but he was also just a writer, so not everybody knows who the writers are, especially if they're nominated for an Oscar. 1981? Yeah. Yeah. People didn't even, like, they didn't even see western films then, so why would they know an Oscar? Who didn't see western films then? He was successful in India at that time. Oh, that's very true. Yeah, so I'm saying, like, they wouldn't like, oh, he was not cool, but he's also just a writer. He wasn't like a face actor. No, but he was a very renowned writer. It's like, well, we have very renowned writers here in Hollywood and the regular person can't tell you who the fuck they are. I didn't find it believable. Cool. That's fine. I don't see the justification there. He's a writer. Writers aren't people that, unless you've also a director or an actor, that has been on screen, people don't know who you are. If he was so famous that he was nominated for an Academy Award, I think he would have had a little bit more notoriety in public settings. That's me. Call me an ass. Call me an idiot. I don't care. That's not my idiot. My personal opinion, it's not going to change. Let's talk about the performances. I enjoyed all of them. I really enjoyed Jaya as usual. Jaya is always so good in every film that she's in. She's always so believable. Her moment when she's talking to Big B, not the very end, but when Big B is telling her that he loves Reika and he's going to leave her, basically, in her monologue after that, or in her whole reaction to what he's saying as well. I loved her whole performance. What did you think about Jaya? It was hard to differentiate between the character of Shoba and the person of Jaya. I thought everybody's performance, as far as the acting was concerned, was very good, all things considered. I didn't have a problem at all with the majority of the acting. Like everything we've ever seen Jaya do, she tends to be just insanely grounded and incredibly believable. But the primary thing that I just couldn't get out of my head at one point, man, that moment where Shoba and Chandni are back to back. Great shot, by the way. And she's saying, leave my husband alone. It was hard for me to watch. You know she accepted the film though, right? Oh, yeah, it doesn't change the reality of what actually goes on in relationship with these three. That's true, but that's not this film. You can't judge a film off of their past. They all agreed to this film. Well, they did, but you realize that the box office judged them according to their past. Nobody wanted to see them. When this movie came out. They didn't want to see Big B in this kind of a role and a lot of people had a problem with the three of them playing these roles based on what everybody knew was going on behind the scenes. I'm judging the film off of the film, not what a box office. But that's my point, is there are times when a actor's personal life overshadows the life of their characters. But yeah, but we're here to review the movie. Jaya is, I'm a top husband. She agreed to this. In fact, she came out of retirement for this because he decided to do a film with Rekha and she decided based off of the ending is basically why she essentially decided to do the film and she's still with Amitabh Bachchan. So that's their personal shit. They can do whatever the fuck they want to do. She could have left him. She could have done whatever she wanted to do. I'm judging the film off of the film, not their personal life. Ultimately, I am as well. I didn't have a problem with the acting. Yes, but you're bringing up the past and for their performances. Well, the past is the present. When you're watching that film, there were dynamics that were going on in 1981 between those three human beings that overshadowed what was going on with the characters in that story. How did it overshadow? I thought it added. Really? Yes. Because you saw the actual tension and the love affair, the chemistry. Sure. Ask your wife what she thinks about Mr. and Mrs. Smith. She never saw Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Why? She doesn't like Brad Pitt. Why? Yeah, but... See, you're missing the point. Why? You didn't answer the question. Why does she not want to watch that movie? Because she doesn't like them personally. Oh, wait a minute. Her personal thoughts overshadowed her thoughts about the characters in the film. Let's sing it. We are reviewing the film. I know. That's the same principle. If you had a problem with that, you could have told me you didn't want to watch this film and I could have reviewed the film alone. I didn't have a problem with their situation so much so that I would boycott their film. I'm saying that it's impossible for me to separate what was going on for them personally at the time with what's going on on screen. Most especially because what was going on on screen is pretty much a carbon copy in many respects of what was going on behind the scenes for the years leading up to 1981. So, that's rough. Especially when you're focusing on the character of Shoba. Yeah, but... That's fine. Let's talk about Reika because I really also enjoyed her performance because it was... she has such an intensity behind her eyes and obviously no shock. She had chemistry with Big B but my favorite scene of hers was probably with Jaya that scene that you were referring to earlier when they were... Also, I love the direction of that scene and the cinematography of that scene. I even took a picture of it just because it was so... it felt like right when it came on the screen I was like that feels iconic. That little... back to back stuff like that. That was absolutely incredible and both of them, during that scene I thought did a phenomenal job. What did you think about Reika's performance? All three of them. I thought their performances were great. I found that scene to be striking. Again, there's no reason to say it because that's not a point of discussion is how... what... what I was able to do in terms of being fully immersed in this story did for me a disservice to the story because I was not able to fully embrace with the totality of just who Chadani and Shoba and Amit were because the the personal lives of Amitabh, Reika and Jaya were bigger and so I don't expect everyone else to have that same feeling if someone else can watch this and desensitize themselves to that part of it shut that part off of it, kudos to you for being able to do that I'm not able to do that so that was the part for me that aside from their artistry which I thought was solid I had a very difficult time watching what looked like a very private matter being played out publicly yes they agreed to the roles but that was for me the disconnecting point aside from that I thought they all did very solid jobs with what they were given another person I thought did a really good job was actually a Sanjeev Kumar the doctor the writing of his character a lot actually the actor did a very good job Sanjeev Sanjeev Kumar who played the doctor the only doctor in the whole town in the totality of India it feels like but I liked how and that's something even though I have a couple of critiques of the director in terms of obviously the times and we'll talk about the ending here in a little bit but he tends to like really fast insane endings well and fast insane scene ends and scene starts but I'm talking specifically the end of the film oh yeah how to wrap it up but his character specifically because normally in Indian cinema his character would be a really possessive man and he's obviously would be extremely jealous and obviously we would have a right to for sure sitting there and watching them do their song which was a great song by the way but him and Jaya basically sitting there watching them basically fornicate on the ground oh yeah I loved when they were at dinner the four of them and there was just no hiding it they weren't hiding it at all but his character was one I feel like a very forward the time in India very progressive and how he was like I'm not here to hold you as a slave so was the very minuscule moment we get of Chandni's dad early on that was amazing but yeah that's one of the things a lot of people say about Yash is that he's even though he's a big Bollywood film maker a lot of his stuff is a lot more progressive than normal but big Bollywood films when it comes to Amitabh one of the things that I understand it but I don't agree with it was it's my understanding that when the movie came out one of the reasons people didn't really like it was because he had established himself as the angry young man and this was his first delving into a love story with emotional sensitivity I that's a shame because I felt where at this time so many people fall into cliches he didn't and neither did Reika or Jaya that would be the greatest strength I think that comes from their performances is that you're not going to see anything cliche in their performances and that would be my if someone were to ask me what if you could take away a positive that was your biggest one what would it be and I would say it would be the acting of the three stars but what a surprise we I mean that's not a shock that those three are calling them good actors and also the music in this which is not shocking I think this is a lot of people would say this is probably one of the best Bollywood scores scores especially of the time of classic Bollywood I read somewhere that the Holy Song was written by big B's dad I did not know that'd be crazy that's hard for me to believe because that would be nepotism so I don't know I said that on IMDB when you look up the trivia on IMDB it said that his dad wrote that song I don't know you can confirm that if you would know better than I but the I loved all the songs I thought they were all beautiful very this film often times was very like poetic in terms of what it was doing obviously yeah obviously I had this stuff of the time of sometimes obviously people would be looking off screen and all that kind of stuff but you have to expect that in this time of Bollywood it's just how it was done but I also did this caught me off guard many times because of just obviously I knew the vague storyline of this movie but I was like okay so what's going to happen and how are they going to be in this love triangle what's going to go on right and it was super because it's a very Indian story as well obviously but oh yeah Rekha and him in this film were in love and so you're like okay they're in love and then Jaya and Shashi are in love he dies and then you're like mmm are they going to do that thing where the obligation but then obviously you found out she was pregnant and that's his obligation really took over right and that's a very Indian I think Jaya even said or somebody I don't know if it's Jaya or who else says it but she's like the lover is never the husband in our country or something like that because so many things are done out of either arrangement or obligation and so you're like okay I understand his obligation to want to do that but you're also like never do that because that's not fair to you and that's not fair obviously the person of course because you're never going to love them as much as you're going to love the other person that you actually love of course yes but once again this film is very Indian and there's other ways to take care of somebody other than just marrying them but obviously at societal pressure at the time Jaya she would have been she had a child out of wedlock and now she's a widow almost and so your life is basically over at that point and so to protect his brother's honor to protect her who he probably going to care for but then obviously you grow into the situation of he probably doesn't actually love her which is something that kind of happened in Lamhe as well of like he in the end he was like I love you I love you I love you you're like you might now with this emotion you probably don't right you don't yeah that's one of the many true lines that didn't run through I think that's one of the reasons why because I know obviously this film is a hit now and a bunch of people like love this film especially the score of this film but the reason why they love this film and not like Topeka's film of last year with a lot of like the cheating and stuff like that right but it's because he ended up with his wife in the end and I think that's the difference with people like it's basically almost the same story of a bunch of infidelities going on all around but in this one in the Indian version it's happy and he ends up with the wife not the other person which obviously doesn't happen in Topeka's she ends up with the person she's has a film in the thing about of the many stark contrasts the plot line of having the conflict and then the crisis and the resolution and the believability and justification for relationships being what they are throughout and in the end those two movies there's no comparison just the infidelity aspect of it because that's the big problem everybody had with Topeka's film infidelity this is a west film we don't do that here but no yes it's painful to see if it's done well you're going to see the complexities of it in a film I can think of a dozen films that portray that in an unbelievable way and whether or not you agree with it I love films that depict that and give you a level of there but for the grace of God go I you know I do want to talk about the ending they spent a ton of money on the ending I guess they really wanted all those pyrotechnics going on obviously just like the lamhe the end was really really fast and it caught me off she answered the phone he was like he was in a plane crash I'm like oh they killed him they didn't obviously that started the whole really ridiculous insane stuff going on get to the chopper it's still burning get to the chopper out of my way I'm going to save him and I don't know how far away they were from the crash maybe they were five minutes he was going to land in the backyard but they were able to get you know police there and then he went into fuselage and the guy was awake on the floor of course he survived the crash but that's the big Bollywood ending and that's just like in lamhe it's big over the top happy ending so he doesn't have to abandon because if he did die he'd be in the exact same situation with Reka's character that he was with Jaya's character in the beginning so that other guy had to survive for the happy ending I didn't love the ending and Amit goes from I've left with Chodney to start a new life but her husband gets in a plane crash and my wife passes out so now I found out she's with child and everything's okay I love her very big Bollywood ending no I've seen Bollywood endings that have far far greater believability and justification than that like in terms of like you know the film's going to end happy and even if it's insanely crazy which this was insanely crazy the ending for sure that's just how they ended I guess how many films have we seen I don't know Vierzara I think was which is by far and away the top of the top but if you say you like this better than Vierzara you are of if it's even a close contest it is close but let's see he directed you're saying this movie is close to Vierzara in terms of overall quality yeah I had problems with Vierzara I enjoyed Vierzara but I had problems with Vierzara um I know he's producer producer producer he was Om Shantyom no Fana producer let me just go to can I just isn't there a way you can separate like directing credits by profession yeah there you go director Vierzara Dar okay so I've seen that one you haven't seen that one Lamhe Shantyom we haven't seen that one Sousa Devar yeah he did direct Devar which would also be close to the top very different because that's not really a love story that's more of a mother brother shitchiation going on okay that one he's worked with Big B a lot that's Big B that's Big B that's Big B that's Big B that's not a surprise yeah he's worked with Vierzara was his no Jab Tak Hey John was his last directing I believe he died when? he's not alive anymore I know that yeah I don't know the year he passed 90 oh wait he's not alive is he? I thought he just passed away am I wrong is he still around forgive us if we're I thought he's not a long life but he passed away and it says 2012 October 2012 and passed away at 90 yeah passed away long life there but yeah it seems like he's had quite the and I think a lot of his films even if you don't agree with this one I think have a particular good quality about them in terms of and also like a difference like DeVar is pretty different from the time true it's a very different kind of love story for sure yeah they're very different this one obviously it's had a very controversial kind of love triangle Vierzara I don't know if that one was different per se yeah I think it is I think it's a standalone yeah I just I love that movie Dar it's another I won't give into that one but yeah it seems like he likes to do even though he is in the Big Bollywood mold of certain things that he does in his films I think he likes to do a lot of stuff pretty differently especially for the time of when he was a director and I know he's a big producer as well and his son is a big director yeah of course yes so question other than the ending did you have any problems with the story there was some stuff that um just like um I kind of gave grace for the time of like lights go out hits a kid with a car yeah I'm going like 10 miles an hour and then on that dark secluded suburban road there's a huge crowd of people that just happen to be standing by yeah yeah and the fact the fact that the doctor treating Jaya just happens to be married to Chandni and the fact that that just gives a good drama and the fact that the cop investigating just happens to be her cousin but didn't know who Amitabh Bachchan was even though he became the families I mean by marriage he became related to him he didn't know who he was either but they lived so close that he could actually be the cop investigating he might not have seen him before maybe yeah he's not once again he's a writer it's not like no no but he's related by marriage now yeah we probably knew him by name but not by face of no sure but yeah I mean I think I give a little more grace to these films than you do sometimes I don't understand why you do because that's what they they're not trying to be anything other than what they are that's their point of them is to be an Indian big Bollywood film they're not trying to be this believable surrounded west film that's one of the beauties of big Bollywood old school Bollywood films so why is my critique of it putting it in a box of the west no I'm saying the examples that you just had of it not your problems with the external affair I'm saying what examples that I give that were western no like the unbelievable stuff that happens that they use for drama right yeah sure it's unbelievable it's just part of the drama it's just what it is but the ending was too much yeah that was where they drew the line for you yeah okay yeah so I don't have a problem that that drew the line for you but you have a problem that the other one drew a line for me oh no you can do whatever the hell you want I'm just I'm just giving you a rebuttal my my I've never told you to like a film or not like a film no but you believe those are as far as just the writing of it those things of unbelievable and just straining credulity are permissible but the ending was not I mean the ending is what it was it's just yeah that was that was a lot for me yeah because it was so different I mean you can give me a little stuff for the drama but then when you're crashing a plane and having the only person survive is the person that you needed to survive and getting there by helicopter in two minutes and it's still on fire and yeah that was a lot but anyways let us know what you thought about the film which we are next Yash, Chopra film and next for Reka Jaya and Amatab what should be their next films this was I believe the last rake of film with Big B if I read that correctly this was the last time they ever collaborated and I don't know what this would have been in the span of her career because we know there was a point where she just stopped yeah yeah well she didn't end because obviously she was in she had a couple things no she was in in the 90s yeah she had quite a career after this I think she had another one with him as well but I can't who with Yash and is it Yash or Yash everybody yeah I don't know anyways let us know what you thought about this film and what should be our next one down below