 I think there's a range of different entry points. One of them, of course, in the safest is the internet. So there's so much information on the internet from the encyclopedia, Google, YouTube. So there are lots of ways to just get a sense of Māori words, Māori concepts and lots of cartoons. But Māori media, in particular Māori television, I think is a great way to get a very diverse window into the Māori world through drama and the language and the news. You're getting an idea about what is happening and what is current into our Māori. I think it's really important. I think finding a navigator to partner with is really important as well. So finding somebody that you can trust or be introduced to to help hold your hand and to help explain things, I think is very important. And if there's an opportunity to connect with the elders, the kōmātua and the kuiya of those local areas who are amazing wisdom keepers, to spend time with them. And there's a way to go about that as well. It's not, tell me everything. I want to know all of these things and bombard people with questions. It's what we call the Kapiti te tau routine, which is have a kapiti, take time. And usually people go round and round the Māori brush before they actually get to the topic of the day. And that's a very intimate way of understanding the Māori world is that time is not a thing. It's not a linear process. You have to take time to learn and spend time with people that are prepared to share that information with you. Definitely be humble. So humbly seeking guidance and advice from others and also people doing their own research I think is critical. So know what questions to ask. Find out at least a baseline minimum. There are many resources online today around tikanga and kawa, which are practices and behaviours that are required of you when you're engaging in the Māori world or on a marae. I think those are kind of the key basics that you can kind of get a master of. And then from there, let your questions guide you to where you want to go next.