 One of the guys who've been a part of the foundation of Juliani's music Umujiwa sayi at Atombia's ID. Immanuel Jal is in the building right now. Ita kwa je. Na jokse ma yuwa sayizi. Karebu nyumbani. Karebu nyumbani. Karebu nyumbani. Karebu nyumbani. Santia, Santia. Jintrodus. One or two nyokuji, jintrodus kwa ila kamera. Wambiwa ni nani. Mi na itwa Immanuel Jal. Spikin English, tswa ili o? Ya, yo titu. Ya, so my name is Immanuel Jal, so I'm a recording artist. So I started doing my music here in Kenya. And so I'm South Sudanese, so I was a refugee here and then I... Everything that you see that I'm doing around the world was influencing my style. Most of my music is recorded here. Ya. Part of your journey, you met Juliani. Ya. Tell us about that before you get to the story. Well, Juliani was introduced to me by DJ Moz. I don't know if you know DJ Moz. He's the DJ that gave me a breakthrough in Kenya by playing one of my songs. And then from there during that time that song was called Goa. Okay. And then it started picking. And then when I met DJ Moz when I was in England, so when my music picked up for me to talk globally. So DJ Moz introduced me to Juliani. I asked him what artist do you really like right now. And he told me there's an artist called Juliani. So from there and then we started discussing this guy is amazing. He has not recorded an album. What do we do? Ya. And so we plan a trip to come here and we brought a team together. Juliani recorded his album and then for a year we promoted him. And that's how Juliani went up. You actually signed him? We signed him to our record label. I normally have this what is called God's Money. So anytime I make money, now it could be especially among on the side. Ya. You identify who inspire you at that moment or what you feel in your heart. And then you just put the whole box to that person. Ya. Then you push it. And try to push the brand. Ya. Because I feel like wealth is bill as a collective. And so I like his music at that time. Ya. And so that's what happened. Ya. From your music, can you describe your music as hip-hop, as a genre? So the music I do is I go with how I feel. For example, if I like a sound of a beat, then what I normally rap, because it's easy, you just put words together and go with the beat. Ya. So like now we did the Afro. And the next thing I was in, hip-hop reggae. Ya. So if you listen to my music, there's different styles in it. Ya. So it's like you're listening to a compilation album sometimes if you get my album. Actually from the two songs that you've played, ya, talk to me and Hey Mama. Ya. Talk to me is very different from Hey Mama. And if you play Kush, there's one called Kush, a video. Ya. And then you'll see it's different. Ya. And I've also listened to Goa. Goa. Is it Goa? Ya. Is that right? Ya, Goa, yes. Ya, Goa. I really like that song. Tell us more about talk to me. Talking to me is mostly basically when things became a challenge for me. Like you're in a place like nothing seemed to work. Ya. And so then I wrote a song for myself. I'm talking to me. Ya. Talking to me. Ya. Then the line, you get respect if you die for what you believe in. Ya. Fear not death because it's ancestors uniting. Ya. You see? Never stop giving it's part of this life you're living. Nobody's clean. You made it this far well-seening. Ya. So basically it's giving reference to every step that I made. Ya. And so when I recite that line it just wakes me up. Ya. You actually trying to put yourself at the back ya. It's not putting yourself. Ya. In some time the things that destroys the most is what we tell ourselves. So what are you telling yourself? Ya. When your world is crashing. Ya. So if you say I'm done, my isha, life is gone. That's it. Ya. But when you speak something else and then you get energy to stand up. Ya. We should never like allow negativity to come into our minds. Ya. Ya. All this positivity all through any day, any time. Ya. Ya. Ya. So hey mama basically it's a song we did with a guy called Chek B in South Sudan. Ya. The idea of the song is how can we write songs that can be futuristic. So when it's played we're programming people. Because when you're in survival state or when you're traumatized your mind is tuned only into the negative things. Ya. And so that's how we say okay let's make this song just to celebrate our people. Ya. Ya. There's something amazing about South Sudan which means if you're in trouble and you reach to any South Sudanese. Ya. As long as you're South Sudanese. If they have one egg they'll give it to you. Ya. And that's what I love about our people if we could start from there and building outward. Ya. That kind of way is different. Ya. Most of you see South Sudanese moving out. Ya. But if you enter their house you may find 10 people, 15 people, staying in their house, but they're no relative. Ya. Ya, ya, ya, ya. I was actually watching Bon Fesmwangi's insta stories When I was in South Sudan I think a month ago. Ya. Ya, you are actually in the, you are part of the guy who invited him. Ya. Tell us more about South Sudan, the culture, and also in the culture, you can fit in the story about the world child. Yes. The movie. Tell us more about the movie first before you tell us about. So, there's a world child, the movie which is my story. We have right now in South Sudan is every young person want to be the head you want to be the president of a company ya want to be the manager nobody want to go from the bottom they don't know like leadership start from ground you know and even me for myself when I go I set up a company and you find different people giving a phone call oh if you own your business to work you have to hide this person from this tribe don't hide any dink or anywhere don't do that job so like you can really like why is it how we gonna go forward if we don't have people to start humbly from the ground from from let me take you back a little bit from the movie watch out is that part of the part of your foundation in activism so the thing is what guide me as a young kid as a kid is my purpose yeah wanting to be a part of a solution you know and that's how I wake up every day how can I be a part of a solution say everything that I do if I strive to move forward in the end of it is what I get from it I share and when you share that's you walking in your purpose you when you give anything without expecting anything in return you're walking in your purpose yeah and what I know is when you walk in that way in the end what I know is there's an old there was an old woman I was talking to and her husband died and in a death in the husband death bed yeah a husband ask a honey what good did I did did I do and then he could only remember the good he did because he became a millionaire there was a lot of money the only good he did was when they were in orphanage when they used to raise funds but after they made so much money they was just for themselves and yeah having a life and she told her the wife that what I know from now is what you can carry beyond the grave is what you gave everything that I did does not matter right now is is resting is asking his wife do what you can by just giving as much as is possible yeah because when you're going in your death bed your purpose will hold you accountable true that's true moving forward you have an api you want you want to release an api next week friday yeah tell us more about it so next week friday we're going to release a song called rockaboom yeah you know it's it's the same album which hey mama coming from and the same album talking to me and so it's where culture music fashion and entertainment just come together so it's the coolest thing is you have south sudan is now in the global platform in the fashion in the modeling industry but there's something amazing about lamo yeah on the back of my mind the people of lamas go the same culture uh as almost like people of south sudan but mostly leaning toward the north yeah and so we say like can we bring this two uh uh two different cultures together in sound and the looks yeah and bringing the south sudanis models mixing it with lamo yeah and that's that's what it is it's beautiful should we expect any kenyan collab maybe juliani kenyans collab definitely you know i always want to collab with kenyans always juliani it's you know with music it's all happened like how you how you guys feel you know like this one time we did uh music with uh with juliani and also some tanzanis artists like vanesa so that you guys are talking about uh i think the elephants is it true yeah vanesamdi was there too yeah how was that collaboration that collaboration was amazing so i learned a lot from from their flow and how our vanesa does a thing in her writing skill and juliani it was it was another kongalese artist mixed kongalese and west african young lady was on it as well yeah so right now we want to listen to your song uh again hey mama especially hey mama i've loved the song you were talking about the country yeah sound sudan and and your love for the country let's listen to the song one more time kablatu ruditana uh you'll be telling us uh where to find you and where to find the ep2 yeah from now let's let's listen to the music one more time