 The hybridized program was being explored at an exploratory stage between 1980 to 82. It was, I really recall the experience that during the Board of Trustees meeting, the chairman of the board would come normally about a couple of days before, like on Friday and spend the weekend here when the board meeting starts on Monday. And I remember Dr. Clarence Grave or the chairman in 1981 and on Saturday morning he had this routine of taking a ride at Irreform looking at what is going on and there were many scientists used to work even on Saturdays in the field. And that was the season in April 1981 I think that was the time that I was trying to convince myself and also present the experimental evidence whether hybridized would be a practical option for the tropical rice farmers. And I was looking at my trial and about maybe around 11 o'clock in the morning and he passed by and he stopped. I saw him in the field and he did know at the time Dr. Neil Brady was the director and he did know that Irre was trying to explore about hybridized and everybody was asking Irre about hybridized. So he stopped and I showed him the trials and showed him certain hybrids that were just experimental hybrids and compared to the high yielding variety like year 36, year 42 and so on. And when he saw it that time when he was really convinced that yes there is something to it and then he had aligned with Neil Brady after that visit and during that he mentioned that I saw the hybrid program in Irre and looks like there is some promise and then the following week after the board meeting was over then Neil kind of organized a GU scientist meeting and visit to that experimental plot and I think that was the kind of turning point when the management as well as the board of trustees got convinced that yes this is something serious that we should make a commitment. That's one example of how things came into being and then brought the commitment to hybridized work at Irre.