 Hello everybody. Today we will have a super interesting interview with Dean, a digital know-man, who travels in around more than 100 different countries. Dean will talk about what is the digital know-man, what he thinks about blockchain in the digital know-man, and actually he will introduce all this niche and what he thinks about both niches, and in traveling in the world in general. Haydn, how are you? I am good. Thank you for having me. Great. So, I prepared some questions that were really interesting for me, and I'm sure that from there I will go to different directions, and it will be super interesting. And I'm super excited about this interview because actually Dean, I don't know if you know this or not, but Dean also affected a lot me because he has a digital know-man's community in Israel, which really inspired me in the last six months I started to travel and work remotely from all over the world, and thanks again for this. So, tell us a little bit about yourself before we get started. Well, first, thank you very much. It's the biggest compliment I can receive. You know, I work a lot to inspire people to work remotely and travel the world, and to hear it from you, and to know that I was able to change and move something. That's amazing. My job here is done. So, I'll tell you about myself. So, my full name is Nimrod Dean Kuchel. I was originally from Israel, and I define myself as a digital know-man. It's not what defines me, but I definitely define myself as a digital know-man. I've been working remote and traveling the world for more than six years now. I traveled to my 100th country recently, and I'm currently in Sydney, Australia, where I really enjoy the country, and I really enjoy staying here. I'm currently at the WeWork space. And then I do a lot of things. My main driver, my main income, my day-to-day job is customer success management. I do customer success management as a consultant. Customer success management is very much like customer support, but also with the proactive side of the business. So, taking care of churn and meeting some KPIs like upsells and customer satisfaction. This is something I love to do. I love engaging with people, clients, and different businesses. So, I do it as a consultant with various tech companies. And then I'm also now a co-founder of Globgliders, which I'll be happy to talk and tell you more, because this is a service for digital know-man that basically simplifies everything that has to do with accommodation and office spaces around the world. It's something I've been working on for several months now, and I'm super excited. I'm just about to launch it. And as you mentioned, I founded Digital Nomads Israel, which is Israel Community for Digital Nomads. It's one of the largest communities and most active communities in the digital nomads space. It's something I'm very, very proud of. I created or I enabled and empowered a lot of people to get together, and I think it's my greatest achievement to help others to become digital nomads. So, this is in a long story, who I am and what I do and what I'm excited about. Can you, before we get started, I'm not sure everyone really knows what is a digital nomad, can you, and they know that this is something that everyone can think that it's something a bit different, but can you explain from your view what is a digital nomad, what does it mean for you? I like to stick to kind of the international, internationally agreed definition which says that a digital nomad is a person who can perform his, their job and duties via digital means and being location and independent of the location, right? So, I also see remote waters as digital nomads for the sheer fact that if I tell you that you must travel or you cannot stay where you ask in order to be a digital nomad, I take out out of being digital nomad the most important element which is freedom, freedom of movement and freedom to choose where you act. So, a digital nomad is really any person that can do their job and generate income regardless of their location and using digital means. So, if you do drop chipping, which is one of I think the best examples and it's been a huge driving force in the digital nomad work, digital nomad world and remote work. So, this is exactly that where you don't have a physical location, you're not tied to an office or to a fulfillment center and you can service your clients and build your store from Thailand or from Medellin. So, actually a digital nomad is someone who can work from everywhere and it doesn't matter if they are freelancers or they are actually working in a company but if they can do it remotely, so that's a digital nomad for you. Exactly, yeah. The form, the type of work or contract doesn't define you as a digital nomad a lot. I think that I really agree with it because that's something that we really stick to in other areas. In some cases it's much easier to just create offices for example in Israel and bring their paper and then everyone will come to the office and it will be much easier to manage that and everything. But I really think that that's a huge benefit for people to work from different places. Also for me now when I moved like for half a year it was not because I wanted only to travel but also because it's something that can open your mind and help it to work from different places. Like for me I feel that it's giving me more ideas, more motivation. Absolutely and I really agree with it because world travel and I did, I traveled in an extreme manner, shaped me, changed me, changed the person I am, what I believe, how I perceive the world and what I think of politics or wars and different cultures and skin color and beliefs. So I think the gift of travel is something that any person should enjoy regardless of their source of income. By the way from our research more than 40% of the obstacles started the business because they wanted to travel and work remotely. That's something good. I don't blame them. There was sorry there was there is a big Harvard research that we conducted over many years and show that the biggest benefit that employee wants is to have the freedom to work from home or work remotely. Especially nowadays when if you live in a big city the traffic is impossible, the rent prices are so high it makes almost no sense to live in cities like San Francisco or New York anymore. The thing that it's hard to work remotely, it's harder than just come to the office and work always in the same place. Anything and everything has plus and minuses. For the individual it depends on the personality and I know a lot of people who who doesn't want to work remotely enjoy walking to the office and meeting with the peeps and like having a beer after work and I appreciate it because I'm seeking community all the time and wherever I go but there are other many other benefits okay the freedom the people I meet experiences. Making my dreams come true when I'm in my 30s and what not waiting for 60 or 70 when I hopefully retire and be healthy enough to do these things. So it's a very individual decision and answer. For me it's absolutely outweigh working in the office. I still go to the office of my clients twice a year to visit the teams and the people and the hangouts with them but I have the freedom to choose wherever I want. If tomorrow I tell my clients I want to sit in the office they would like to accept me so the biggest I think the biggest sensation of being a digital nomad is not my ability to travel it's the opposite it's my ability to stop whenever I want and say hey I enjoy sitting I'm going to stay here for a month or two or I enjoy being walking to the office now I'll start to walk to the office anyway and by the way you can see that I can work from Bondi Beach and I can work from a coffee shop but I choose to go to WeWork because I have events here and community and office space and you know you see I dress up although I don't meet with clients so I put my button right here to feel like I'm going to the office to have this work vibe. So that's that's that's my opinion on this and of course if you are a company the benefits are different between letting your clients out sorry letting your employees to work with more than a month. Well if you already talked about locations, do you have any like favorite countries, locations that you usually go that you come back to these places? There are a few there are a lot of I can tell you really after 100 times it's beautiful out there and so many places that I like and enjoy I feel like I'm living I'm constantly living in a form where I'm missing out because I want to be everywhere and anywhere but if I really need to stay a few places then to travel Japan, Iceland, Cuba are the most amazing destination for me because of the culture because of the nature very unique and then places I enjoy going back is definitely Sydney which is I think the quality of life is just incredible. Bali in Chengdu specifically in Bali Indonesia for the sense of the community there is a great group of people who are hustlers hard worker like-minded people and I think it's very important for people like us working more to have people with the same set of mind around us it also motivates me to have to create to build things so I enjoy Bali a lot and I enjoy Medellin. Medellin Colombia is also one of my very very favorite spots as a digital nomad and as just a person it's an amazing city that strikes a crazy balance between cost of living and quality of living where would wear their music culture highly recommended. That's okay cool and when you come to these places you usually work from like as you said when we work you usually find your search for the co-op in space. So ever we work global membership and so wherever days we work I will try to go there but also that's a segue to talk about globegliders.com that's my new venture and this is basically a flat theme monthly membership service so you pay one time every month and now you have access to accommodation all over the world and working space as well so now that I have globe gliders out in the wild I use these to access co-working spaces everywhere I go but it changes I go where there's people that's where I go I want to be surrounded by people I want to meet fellow digital nomads so it changes you know if you go to Stockholm in Sweden you'll find the people in the co-working spaces but if you go to Medellin you'll find them in the coffee shops. I'm very good at working where there's like hustle and bustle around me I don't mind the noise I don't mind people walking around it's actually helping me to focus I think. Nice. Cool. About your project what do I mean by different co-working like you just found the places where most of the nomads go there and you just like found some contacts with the co-working that you can start and just go there if you have the membership. Yes we collected right now we have over 1000 accommodations in more than 120 countries and we have hundreds of co-working spaces around the world these are places that we vetted that we know that our digital nomads enjoy being there these are you know good internet comfortable seating so we vetted these places entered them into our network and with this one single membership you now have access to all these places around the world today you're in Kiev Ukraine for 10 days then you decide to go to Moscow you just go on on the upload letters you say I'm going to Moscow you book your dates and that you don't need to swap your credit cards you don't need to worry about anything. Amazing it's I think thank you one of the hardest things but to come to a place and find the place that you really like to go on there and you also need to pay so it sounds really good. Yeah it's it's a challenge that I face so many times because I travel fast I'm in a different country almost every week and I meet a lot of digital nomads and everyone talk about it might not be a hostel but just a little bit of a headache to like find a place and whether it's good it's for digital nomads in the party hostel is this urban village and we're solving this this problem plus provide a flat fee so you can manage you know your budget for for the entire year and if you want and we build community around it so that it's going to be very excited also exciting to meet other gliders what we call us around the world it's really the most exciting thing for me right now and I'm hyped about what we're doing at Global Ideas. Let's go for some technical details that will be really interesting for our audience and then we will jump into some like more dropshipping and how dropshipping linked to a digital moment so what about what do we do about banks do I have any online banks like PayPal, Tenure or do I just use the banks in Israel or any other country because for me I found that it's really hard to communicate with banks in Israel for example when I travel so what do you think? Yeah it's a very good question and you know it's a topic that comes up quite often in the community first I want to say to whoever watches if you have any question if you want to know more feel free to comment below ask me questions I'm an open book I'm really happy to talk about anything and assist everyone and anyone there to take part of the digital moment movement and lifestyle so feel free to do so now when it comes to banks yes I do have PayPal I do have I have PayPal for my business and I also have Payoneer and I have a couple of banks I have a bank in Israel where I'm from originally and I also have a bank account in the States so to be quite honest my USA bank pretty much solves all my problems because it's a great banking system very stable credit cards are amazing easy to communicate them service is great so not a lot of problems so I know you know Payoneer is great and PayPal is great quite expensive sometimes but yeah my main so yeah my main driver is my USA bank this is where I bank and you don't have access to them remotely? No not at all to be honest I barely talk to them it's all paperless so everything goes through the emails I maybe talk to them once once a year and I also visit the States once a year so sometimes I go to the bank but everything's online and out of my experience banking in the States is good it's modern so for me it's been a bliss I don't have you know I don't do job shipping so the amount of transactions that I deal with is not high I don't have high volume of transactions so maybe I have different needs but for my personal banking and my business the USA bank is the definition of whoever has access to his banks I think it's it's great banking system to use and moreover the credit cards especially for those who travel or has high level of expenses as a drop cheaper because 60 70 percent of your of their transaction might be payouts to your vendors then you can pile a lot of miles and points and get money back I'm talking about four or five percent back which is big money that's wrong so well I have something also here so first about what the inside about the points it's something it's a really good point you can pay to everyone using these credit cards and get a lot of points you can actually make most of your flights for free if you're not tons of flights but one tip here if you go and do this so call PayPal tell them that you are going out of your country and you're going to countries XYZ and then they will not block your account and they will not do any problems when you travel it's a good it's a good tip because PayPal is the only financial provider that I had problems and it's been really difficult to deal with it and it's part because of how they manage their security payoneer been great especially if you have an account manager assigned to you it's super easy their service been really rich and less early so about a panel that doesn't do any problems and if you want you cannot so I will attach a link under this video so we can join them with some discounts and something that's really interesting for me I have now some problems with it so maybe now that I can get a consultant for me anyway about a phone number what do we do with phone numbers which think of any country that you move or what's this Russian though again I use Google Fi and Google Fi is a single SIM card that give you internet in like 160 countries around the world so it's really one SIM card one us phone number that goes with me everywhere and anywhere it's I think it's only for us residents but there are ways around it so you can log in with VPN put some friends address or even you know one of these virtual box or something like that and and get it I think whoever can get it it's amazing especially if you travel often it's not cheap but it's for me it's an investment you know that if I touch down in the Maldives or Oman or Dubai or Australia or even Samoa in the pacific island I touch down and I have Wi-Fi and I can talk to my clients and I can do my work it's worth I drop maybe a thousand dollar a year on Google Fi so that's a good solution for those who travel slower and change a place once a month I would typically recommend buying a SIM card every because if you go to Bali or Thailand you pay five ten dollars you get ten gigs of data which is plenty I think given that most places has good Wi-Fi so if Google Fi is a good investment if you travel often or if you need to have the same phone number and that goes back you know you ask me about access to like my bank account so sometimes I need to get like a text message so by having a single phone number that solves a lot of problem with PayPal, Payoneer because everyone has two factor authentication and the great thing about Google Fi I feel like I'm doing a commercial here but it's not you can get the text messages to your phone as well to your computer because it's um it's also internet-based so even if my phone is not available I get the text message in my gmail inbox and makes it very easy to use these codes so yeah that's my so my advice I'm giving like a super long question to something answer to something very simple if you travel often Google Fi is the thing if you don't change places more than or if you change places at least five six times a year or sorry between five to twelve times a year just get a local SIM card cheaper and easier oh thank you so I feel like I need to do all this answer from the beginning because it's like super long and boring I think that we can continue and talk about digital digital moment in general for hours but I want to jump a little bit about mold into drop shipping which is more elemental audience and digital digital moment together so you didn't meet any drop shippers during your traveling how many did you meet how they work can you tell us a little bit about this yeah well I met I meet I meet plenty plenty plenty of drop shippers of course they never tell me what they're niche um so what they sell sounds very fishy but um I meet a lot of drop shippers um yeah it's it's in my opinion drop shipping is a valid business and it's a valid business because I see people making a lot of money with drop shipping and I don't think everyone makes all the money and I think even if you have a drop shipping business to make $500 or $1,000 or $2,000 a month it's a nice stream of income given the amount of work needed um and yeah I meet them everywhere I go especially in Thailand Bali Kanari islands Medellin with these are the centers of nomads I definitely need them um yeah I mean what what's the question again I just wanted to first like let's say that in average what I see and I know is that in average drop shippers usually do for full time like average drop shipper I'm not talking about like advanced drop shippers but someone who like one year they usually go between two to three thousand dollars a month do you think that this amount of money can give you the opportunity to moment really work from different countries which places I want to say one before I say yes to the question is that um what I do see I don't know how much people make the drop shippers that I made but I can definitely tell that those who succeed and have a a thriving business and a growing business are those who take it seriously and it's not like a sidekick you know um as a sidekick they will make few hundred of dollars but if you don't maintain it it's not going to grow out of itself unless you're very lucky so like anything in life I believe that luck is the result of hard work and I see that those who like put time into the business says into their storefronts the website the advertisement they're being rewarded and when it comes to the question about budgeting two to three thousand dollars if you're talking net this is amazing three thousand dollars you can live anywhere in the world very comfortably maybe not california or new york but even in australia uh three thousand us can get you a nice place and very high quality of life um so so absolutely I mean it's it's no secret why people like to go to balin cmi it you can live very nicely on thousand dollar and even less um but I have a lot to say about financials and how much is enough you know yes you can live off a thousand dollar but if you're 22 and you just travel the world it's okay but if you my age I'm 37 now turn 38 in two months um I want to save money I want to be in my future I need to think about what's next because I I'm not going to be a digital moment on my life yeah okay cool I first I really agree about that like if you don't maintain the business but people sometimes think that they they can just start the business and then work on it like one hour a day and then it will run and it will not happen so I really agree with it that you should continue and work on your business but the good thing from my from what I saw is that you can continue to work the eight or ten hours a day or even sometimes you can even not work for one day and just make the world the work in other day but the good thing is that you can also travel and you're in this uh it's the free time and see other places and by work it doesn't mean that you need to spend the 10 hours a day you need to use tools and automation and and people you you bring a virtual assistant you bring more people on the team if you don't know marketing hire someone who knows marketing it's uh customer service is not something you enjoy doing let's someone who enjoy it do it um you know auto DS tool that helps you with your dropshipping store and sourcing and placing uh listing so it saves time but it grows your business it's doing it doesn't mean that you need to do it yourself that's wrong um you have um first I want to do feel that uh dropship actually go like out of the regular office or city you can help them to get more ideas or get more connections during the travel during the digital normal my instinct is to say absolutely um what I love about the digital moment community and is the sense of sharing yes no Dippers dropshipper will tell you their niche but they will share with you other tips and information and it's not just dropshippers um that's why I like to go to uh a co-working space in canary island or in changoo because people just everyone sit down on the laptops hustling building their own business whether it's coach the coaching business or SEO business or dropshipping and they help each other and you go for a sunset drink and you talk about business you talk about entrepreneurship you talk about building amazing life not just business building an amazing lifestyle for yourself and it's empowering and it's educating I was not born a digital moment I I learned from all the people that I met along the way you know globe gliders and the community that these things happened while I was in in places like valley and chamois where I met people that are doers and it gave me the motivation to like okay I'm gonna hassle I'm gonna kill it and I'm gonna do it and and this is how business starts so it's definitely yes and if you can surround yourself with the right people and with people do it there is a beautiful say um I'm hijacking the microphone here that you are the average of your five closest friends and I really believe that if you surround yourself with successful people successful in your domain successful where you want to be successful that's going to lift you up it's gonna pull you to higher achievement and push you to do better I agree with it usually these people who to everyone work are really inspiring and the small talks that you have with these people it doesn't matter if they are really directly in your niche or do something a little bit different you can down from them so much it's really amazing I enjoy meeting people are not in my niche why because I'm building a website okay GlobeLiders I don't know much about SEO but when I'm sitting in a core working space in Bansko Bulgaria I can just raise my hand my hand it's okay guys anyone here know anything about SEO and the next thing I know I'm grabbing a beer with a girl that all she does is SEO and she explains to me everything and we might have business together so think about it that you're sitting in in a room with a lot of talented people from different disciplines so that's that's that's amazing also if you if you if you currently live in an expensive city if you live in London or New York or even Miami which is not very expensive but you still spend about thousand dollars you can go to a place like Chenmai live super nicely on twelve hundred dollars you have the right people with the right mindset around you and save more money it's like you I only see profit I only see benefits and also if you don't like it you can always go back to Miami you have you are free that you need to embrace this freedom you're so lucky to to live in this time it also comes from nowhere these people that you meet like they're just there like you and come to also meet another people or also do their work and help others and get some information as well I love to travel you know and you know Lior I I have this mission to to visit all 196 countries of the world but I don't travel for countries I travel for people first like I'm all about killing the people and when you meet someone like mine that you it's it's typically a friend for life it's amazing it's so inspiring we just met in Vietnam oh yeah one guy who had an Instagram page with over one million followers in a food niche so we decided to make a partnership with him about the shopper festival of food because we know about Shopify he knows about food and about how to grow an Instagram page which was amazing and that's also just came from this that you just came down there and know him before that he will be there cool by the way how did you start your new project and the community both of them are interesting um I will take even a step further back I did not plan to be a digital moment I didn't even know it's a thing I just had a normal job and because of some technical issues I had to work remote for a little while and when I could finally go back to the office I told them like listen I don't want to go back to the office I enjoyed being in high pay in Japan and other places and they respected this choice and allowed me and only then I discovered about the digital normal okay um now how I started my community digital nomads Israel it's really was it's one of this decision that you you don't have a vision you don't understand what you do you go on Facebook you click on create group because you want to meet other digital nomads in Israel I added like five friends that I knew in Israel who worked and two years later it's um almost a 12 000 people group events digital nomad conferences in Israel meetups all over the world so it was really the the need to communicate and connect with digital nomads in Israel and I never did any advertisement I never I just it's you know people tell people tell people and it blew up that's good yeah so so it was not like a decision like okay I'm gonna build a community to connect people and and I have all the information in one place and empowered them it was not this it was like hey I just want to meet other nomads here like I do in in other cities um and yeah it just turned to be amazing you know I I give talks part of what I do I try to motivate and inspire people uh not not just to travel and work more but just to to live the life they want because life is short and there's no reason to do something we don't like or enjoy so through these talks I met a lot of people and this joined my community so it helped me to to grow into where it is now uh Globgliders it's it's a little bit different story because Globgliders was actually I I had this idea in mind for a long time it was a little bit different spin-off I wanted to create um more of a membership discount card for digital nomads and it's something that I'm doing for digital nomad Israel right now but then my my co-founder Nimrod Gabriel um he reached out to me actually through Instagram because he saw what I'm about and we had two conversations about the digital nomad lifestyle and we had the same ideas and the same passion and the same understanding and we we dealt with the same challenges so it's like hey let's let's do something about it you know how how do we fix this problem for us and for others and then it happens and I don't think I would be able to do it uh I definitely wouldn't be able to do it with him and without without him and without my other partners um you know and goes back to why it's so important to meet people and right people and good people and he is very smart and he's knowledgeable and there are a lot of things that he knows million times better than I do and I I grow and I develop throughout this process and I bring different things to this game um and Globgliders we just launched um I think this opportunity we literally the website just went up a couple days ago and we're now looking for like 10 20 beta users so if anyone here would like to participate in we didn't plan it uh you're but I'm I'm saying it but if anyone here want to participate in the beta program we're also giving a nice discount to save you a nice amount of money on your accommodation and office spaces reach out to me or leave the comments here um or reach out to me on Facebook where is Dean or Nimrod Dean Kuchel and I'm happy to tell you more and onboard you on our new plan cool I will also post it in our Facebook group another this video and your contact details and so people can contact it sounds really cool yeah any person that spends between uh I would say 800 to 1200 dollars a month on accommodation and maybe office space as well uh we'll we'll save at least 200 dollars if not even 400 dollars on on their accommodation on monthly basis and many of them can stay in the same place they live right now just get the payment through us and we will get the discount for them and we we take care of everything so this is where the real value of global ideas is amazing couldn't you do this six months before it would help me um nice okay do you think that everyone can become a digital moment uh I mean not about the personality but more about limitations of age relationship statuses kids and things like this that doesn't affect the digital moment anything is possible and you know in my in our in my community we have a lot of families and we have couples you know of course many singles and individuals um and there's also people over 60 you know community which are digital moments it it does add a little bit complexity if you travel with kids and it's more things that you need to take care of you know whether it's a baby or a kid with a child when you need to put kindergarten and schooling so it's a little bit more challenging now there are solutions forming and coming up but it's not there yet there's not enough infrastructure like if you're an individual or just a couple traveling together so anyone can yes absolutely I meet families every day I meet people in their 60s and 70s working remote every day um it just doesn't make it easier that's why I think people should start early try it see if it's for you build build also the foundation so it can support you if you now in a relationship or now you want to have a child it's not a family so yeah it's possible and and and there are more and more services than enabling like you know I spoke about google pie globe gliders um credit cards that allow you to pay anywhere without the transaction fee in Thailand there are schools for kids now um for digital moments so there are more and more services to support and enable but most of the the limitations are here is what I hear from people is like okay Dean so of course you can travel because you're single but I have a child so I can't like instead of thinking about oh I can't try to think about oh okay how do I solve what solutions are there for helping choice for kids or what can I do to school my kids and those who ask this question this way also get the answers and they do nice it's amazing I think also a solution can be just to stay more in places no like to if you move less it's not easier yeah you can travel slower and definitely people with kids travel slower and it's good for everyone of course there's a limitation but not not not that big especially not in asia or south america um so yeah stay one two three months in a place enjoy it I actually think there is a huge reward for kids uh or grow up in in such environment that are exposed to different cultures and beliefs and races in very young age they speak multiple languages everything that I've seen and met so far it's been an incredible the the life smart of these people that if you of these kids it's on another level I mean one one thing that I just remember now and it also happened because of you and helped me a lot I think that this was my like smartest decision that I made when I moved for half year is to take a small baggage at roly it was it was like so helpful and it was amazing so I wasn't sure where this is going but um yeah this is uh this is the best advice I can tell give anyone um I always joke that there are multiple ways to take your stuff um you know to fold to roll or to shrink and I say that the best way to take your stuff is to take less um you don't need a big suitcase to collect endless amount of experiences um digital moments go to the courting space with the same t-shirt and the same pants every day coming in tongues in their flip-flops tongues is the Australian version of flip-flops um not tongues people enjoy life they don't care about all the the symbols you know what brands you have and all these things no one cares for it anymore and every digital moment I make whether you do dropshipping or marketing whether you make a dollar a month or ten million dollars a month everyone did the same mistake of traveling with like a big suitcase and another backpack and another day pick and after three months they were just they were just looking for someone to take the suitcase back to the parent house and get rid of the stuff um sensation of freedom is not the job you have it's how many things are holding you to the ground and the lighter I am you know if I need I'm now in Australia if I need to go to Singapore or to Samoa or to New Zealand in 10 minutes it's all it takes me 10 minutes to go home pack my shift next destination I pay less luggage fees when I take flights because I I have a carry-on so I never lose my luggage um it makes everything so so much easier you save time when you go out of the airplane and you save money because when you don't have a luggage a big a big space to store things I see a lot of nice things when I walk around like oh yeah I want a souvenir I want to buy this nice uh another pair of shoes but then you ask yourself wait where am I gonna put this pair of shoes so here you go 80 dollars that I say you know um a lot of things that sometimes I don't buy anymore anymore I'm in the middle of this now um a lot of things doesn't have much value for me when it comes to objects but um this is the process by limiting my living space amazing uh even about it also it's true that you don't have space in your suitcase but as I said it's a benefit it's not like cons it's it's something that really helpful because you just don't spend time on something for more and more stuff to buy and yeah yeah and you don't need it and it's not like I look like a bum or you know I I have this shirt that cost me 10 dollars and some simple store you don't need even if you want to dress nicely and you want to mix things you can do it on the cheap and also because I don't buy much so I so I save a lot of money on clothing for example so it's easier for me to change I use the shirt it's done for two months all right give it away throw it out buy a new one um it's become small expenses especially as you travel if you go in in London to any shop you pay 20 30 dollars for a shirt uh even a t-shirt that when you're in asia how much is a t-shirt in in bali or thailand or vietnam three dollars four dollars five dollars ten dollars yeah three to five yeah nice like yeah just you know yeah I just want to say like by moving and I give that most of our listeners are living in first world countries OECD countries with cost of living which is fairly high only by moving out and traveling the world you start to save money just by this because also always people associate travel with expensive but travel actually allowed me to save more money than I said before with the same salary so I think that if you like right now you spend less than what you would spend if you're staying in israel for example israel for sure because israel it's a very expensive city but yes absolutely absolutely I you know so right now in israel which is very expensive but even then I don't spend what I spent when I was in the usa or in israel or in london um but more than half of the year I spend in srelanka and in bali and medagin these are cheap places so yeah I mean come let's say yeah how much time does it spend in israel it's not about two months a year six six to eight weeks or if you ask my mom not enough but um I have nephews in israel that I crazy for and I miss them badly but yeah I try to spend about months in israel nice and now because I come back to countries already have like people that you know in the countries and you come and meet them again yeah different places yeah yeah I I travel lots to visit friends more than I travel now to to explore new places um so yeah absolutely amazing and I also I want to say here something about you know about this about my travel patterns and why I go visit friends because um the digital nomad last time can be a little bit uh lonely I never felt this I'm not a person that's just lonely I'm very good with my I can't contain myself I'm very extrovert so I go places and talk to people I make friends I start events I create meetups but for others it might not be as easy and loneliness is is the new epidemic of of our century in our generation so it's something that you need to be aware of and this is why I also recommend to start with soft places like medagine panaria and bandscore uh valley and in Thailand where you can meet other people to support you and a sense of community is something that eventually you will need maybe the beginning you can travel by yourself you meet a lot of travelers backpackers you party you enjoy but um as the excitement died down a little bit and you want a little bit more slower pace of travel you need you will start to want people around you you will want to see the same people over and over again um and this is something that after six years of heavy travel I'm trying I'm starting to sense that I need I want to hang out with the same people this is why I travel sometimes to Singapore to visit my friends and see them for dinner I'll go to Melbourne for the weekend to meet with the people so something that you need I think any person should take into account because connection and community and friends is something global that we all need nice um cool um what is the best advice you can give to those who want to start and walk remotely and travel alone I think I spoiled it a little bit before when we talked about the luggage so I think really the best advice and that will be surprising to so many people who want to travel or work remote um is to have a smaller carry a smaller suitcase just live off a carry on so this is my day pack this is where I have my laptop my camera and then I have another carry on that's it it's about 16 17 kilos or I would say something like 32 to 34 pounds of gear and that's all I own and even if you don't really even if you leave at home right now start cutting down off your expenses what you spend on clothes accessories and so on gadgets start to live off smaller um have a smaller closet footprint this state of mind is what will enable you to travel light all of a sudden you will see a ticket going from Houston to Panama for $65 and you don't need to worry about what do I do with all my stuff and you just take all the shit you have take your laptop and a charger don't forget the charger and you go to Panama um so really travel light that's it's my best advice and then my second advice would be the people the people you met you meet will shape you will help you um so go out meet people don't be afraid to strike a conversation I was very shy when I started my my enigmatic journey I wouldn't talk to anyone no guys let alone girls um I understood that all human beings want to have this human touch they want to share the story they want to listen to yours so be the first to start a conversation you sit you sit next to someone on the train hey how are you sitting out someone uh next to someone on the airplane ask them hey are you traveling for business or fun or uh one of the things I like to do is are you also traveling for fun or for business or are you also traveling solo and by by also you already give them your answer so you make yourself vulnerable you share something of yourself so they feel more uh comfortable answering um you know I build I build trust with people because I meet I meet people all over the world in different cultures and languages and I build this trust um by making myself transparent and clear exactly like I put myself on this video and I'm willing to talk about everything about in my life um use this the the truth and transparency is the best um the the nicest thing you can offer someone it's a very helpful thing because the thing that's what usually people are really struggling with like create the connections to start the conversations you feel do you feel that you improved in like to start conversations with people and start talking with people doing this if I think what I'm sorry that you improved in like communication with people and I didn't understand the word like every time you say like it's like popping in my head as if you feel that you improved in my growth in creating the connections in talking to the uh start the conversations very much very much I was not like that uh at the beginning but I I learned I saw I saw when people strike conversation with me I listen what they do I watch what they do and I learn from them and I built myself this set of uh you know questions like pick up lines but I use these pick up lines not with with girls but I use these pick up lines with every person that I meet um you know I like to to talk about countries and almost every person I meet today I can tell them that I visited the country and what I love about the countries um so that it's an easy I met someone from um Kosovo and I met someone who's from Sarajevo in Bosnia and they're so surprised to meet someone who's been to the country um these are not very travel countries so for me that's that's one conversation driver but yeah I developed this set of questions that I like to ask people in different situations um and you'll be surprised you'll be surprised how how excited and happy people are to talk and also I learned the art of understanding when people don't feel like having a conversation with you and I'll walk away or I'll ask them or I'll tell them I'm sorry to disturb you and I'll just walk and um or I'll ask them if you don't want to have this conversation it's fine and and people are good and if we don't ask and if we don't try um nothing will happen you know if you don't try a drop shipping store you won't pick up one then helps walk the store and if you don't ask this girl out you'll never go out with you and never ask for a raise in your job you'll never get this raise so we have nothing to afraid we're all human beings we all made of the same thing uh whether you're Elon Musk or any any other person we're all human beings so don't be afraid to be you and okay that's what you get and it's the best I'm so happy that we had you our channel I still have one question but I think that was one of the most inspiring conversations with the head here so thank you for this um there is any person who helped you during your way to start your way someone who affected you or influenced you the most well my mom definitely uh she's a travel guide so she inspired me to travel the world but um yes there is one people there are a few people but there's one person uh which is actually a very famous in the drop shipping community I don't know me you know in johnny fd i think he's in copangano right now he's in Sri Lanka uh he was in he's the guy who's uh doing the nomad summit in in Chenmai um but I never met him in person I did chat with him a few times mostly to thank him for what he did for me without him knowing but he has um he has a blog called travel like the boss he has a podcast travel like a boss and he shares everything about his life how much money he makes how much money it's spent the places he go the challenges of being away from his parents the challenges of not having community but he struggled with his girlfriend um I struggled with his business and his stories inspired me at the very beginning six years ago to go in this journey and I highly recommend this podcast for anyone out there called travel like a boss almost every week he interviews another different person that they have stories like mine and yours people that had like a nice office job and decided to leave it or some english teacher that now does drop shipping and make $30,000 and live in Korea and these stories make you understand it's possible these people are not gods they are not made of something different material um so it definitely been a big influence and a driving force in my nomadic lifestyle and what I do and you know I created community I created events a lot I took a lot of inspiration from him so check out Johnny FT um he's a big he made his money uh doing drop shipping and promoting drop shipping also a lot of controversial but when you're successful I think it always drives also people that don't like you and like you I think if people don't like you you're successful it means that you're successful but for me it was very helpful and the general advice here is any person find yourself a mentor and maybe you might need you might need to change mentors over time but find yourself a mentor and and learn from them and learn from their mistakes and from their successes it's very difficult to to succeed on your own and come up with your own with our own uh success recipe without guidance in my opinion and then find a mentor try really to listen and be open follow it I agree with it yeah yeah yeah you know I I learn every day I learn every day no matter how successful I feel sometimes with my community and blob leaders and other things I do and even as a customer success manager something I do for 10 years or more I always know there is something for me to learn and I walk instead of mine to every meeting every time I meet a person I know there is something I can learn from them so that's been sensational for me throughout the street I said I travel for people not to places amazing you have like sometimes hard times with it that you work remotely no no bowling life yeah I had I had of course definitely less definitely definitely less life is can be very easy as a digital moment because you can escape situation you don't need to to deal with all the politics if you don't like a place or the weather you can just hop on a plan and go somewhere so it's easy to run away from problems oh but yeah I mean I I felt a few times that like I want a relationship and it's very difficult to form if you decide to travel every week to a different continent and sometimes I wanted to have more friends or I miss my family I miss my nephew badly they grow up so fast and you don't see them so you give up on certain things my connections with my friends in Israel people I grew up with has changed over the years we're still friends but it's not the same level so these are things that change but except with that there are there are times there are some things that you gain and some that you lose and you just need to make sure that what you gain is is more than you lose I did have one one time that I kind of lost my only income okay so I had one contract and I lost it and then I said like what's now like I'm not I'm not a digital nomad anymore I cannot afford this lifestyle how do I find like new online income and so this was like kind of a panic moment and the turnout to be of course very good for me at the end but in the moment you don't know what's the future so I think what I didn't do and I changed things is to have a backup plan to have enough saving save like three to six even nine months of living if you can but start with three go to six save money have discussion in case something is is going wrong and have multiple streams of income or have a plan in mind okay of course the great thing about dropshipping is that if you have this talent so you can sell beds and beds now it's not a good market you sell surfing boards and if surfing board is not good business you can start the your corona masks business um so it's a great talent to have it's like marketing you can market anything basically right um so have this plan I think in English you say plan for the rainy day plan for a rainy day so have a plan for a rainy day because you're when you're in Nomad and you're now in Tonga in the Pacific Ocean and you lost your source of income um it's going to be costly to travel back home and start maybe to get used to normal life again so yeah have a backup plan have some savings think about the rainy day don't don't think this the good thing that you have in life for the last forever amazing I see that our conversation became really long because it was really interesting for me so I have no sense of time I have no clue how long it's been going on overall surprising um so I really appreciate that you came today and do have something last that you want to share with people and something about anything that you want to say even that you'll share a lot I don't have more pics or more stuff but I would say this check out globalisers.com tell me if you like it you want to try then I would say um check out where is Dean this is my um my social media name where is Dean it's my journey to 196 countries of the world you can follow me on instagram or facebook that's where I'm mostly active and then you know I I will end this with how I end every post and every talk and every conversation say yes and go explore this is my mantra this is what I believe in I say yes the thing I yes yes yes to you ask me hey do you want to talk and interview you know I didn't ask you what is it for how many people when what like I just said yes and and it's the same when people ask me hey do you want to go to a flamenco show never been to flamenco show but flamenco flamenco yeah let's do it and do you want to do you want to go to I don't know some places yes yes and yes I go I meet people everything good that happened to me in life it's because I said yes nothing bad or sorry nothing good came out of saying no so become yes people be positive say yes to things say yes to experiences um the world is so much it's so beautiful and 10 times better than million times what the news tried to make it 10 of the news uh I live in the world peace since I turn off the news I you know as an Israeli um I'm not allowed I'm not supposed to go places like Dubai or man Malaysia Indonesia um I travel these places and I met people who are so far from what I the media told me that you know they want to kill me and then you hate you and because you're Jewish and because you're Israeli it's like people love me and people enjoy meeting me and enjoy listening to my story and I enjoy listening to theirs and I'm sure drink or two um if for the Muslims we didn't share a drink but a shisha maybe but it's a beautiful world there and this is why I say say yes and go explore say so these good opportunities um and go explore a beautiful world that's all that that's my that's my message to the world thank you for staying yes and coming to this amazing interview super inspiring interview and in general always that you go it's amazing at digital moment community projects that now will help people thanks again and I wish everyone to start their way and explore and say yes as Dean said thank you thank you very much and again anyone has any question I'm an open book super happy to help and uh save the soul help you to become a digital moment