 Well, thank you for the question and in some way I get the impression that you're just walking two different legs and Maybe for the audience the working title of this conference was the age of stupidity And I ended up on a conference named school of civilization So there we see a more optimistic approach and we heard also on this table that it is life is full of paradoxes and you also Wrote it in your essay you quoted Dickens saying we live we are living in the worst of times and we're living in the best of times And I'm of the school that I think well if if there are two options available I would like to choose in the best of times and use it to decrease the size of the worst of times and I think that the world of arts and music Really has a crossroads with education and that is that it's all about the development of the inner self and the exploration of time space beauty That you can connect to your your surrounding and it was a beautiful example when you live in the woods with a wolf you will never become a human being and I think both schools and the world of arts give you the opportunity to connect with the space around you to know your place to To know what kind of times you're living into what times we connect By playing Bach or by playing Mozart you can learn something about European culture And I think that especially beauty in the morality of beauty is something that is so important for my generation We're living in a more secular time. We're living in a time where we all have education have relatively good incomes And but we do not really have Something more than this really flat a moral Way of life and I think that beauty can really play a big role in it to develop people to more Interesting and nice people and for myself, for instance, that's the world of Mahler and I grew up in a very Catholic Family I lost God when I was 12 or something and it was nothing anymore So I I really had a quiet root purity my puberty and then I developed then I got back to the world of music because my parents play a lot of music and Realized there's something between this sometimes ugly Sometimes not so very nice as the young seems called the hell And between the heaven that doesn't exist. So and that's the world of arts and of music So, yeah, it is relevant at the same time Is it relevant to talk about it Sometimes I have the feeling that We tend to talk and write and discuss too much about the topic instead of experience the topic itself so You were asking how many of your members of the concert about are here in this in this in this concert hall And then I said to you well, it's more important to experience the primary sources So I rather have that you listen for the first time to Bach or to Mozart or to Mendelsohn and after that Talk about it because in our society it's so much also in our education about knowledge and about Rational worldview that people don't dare to even experience music because they tend to think that they don't know anything about it And I think you first should experience it and listen for it like for ten times and after that you can say something about it as a little anecdote for instance the Corporate sponsor of the orchestra in this concert hall once had a meeting and they flew over all kind of managers and all kind of other boring people and it literally cost well just thousands and thousands of euros and then More than half of it didn't turn up because they were just afraid and especially the young people They were afraid that the colleague would say well it wasn't this nice and did you hear this little musical trick or trope? And they were just afraid and ashamed that they couldn't talk about it. So sometimes I think Maybe we should just not talk about it But experience it listen to it open your heart to it and the talk will come later If you go on with it and develop yourself in this musical world. So yeah, of course read this book read this topic, but For the most as a driver for enthusiasm to explore more and to experience more and to open up yourself to a quite abstract and large world of art But don't forget to read the primary source reach your books go to the concerts go to the opera's Do just the things that you don't know and have never experienced and then get touched by the power of music and the power of arts because that power is So enormous Sometimes so overwhelming even That will grab you in an instance. So I'm quite optimistic actually about that. Okay, good. So listen