 Again, as I approach this side, there, I'm just going to let it loop, carry in a few strides. And I want to take off a little bit, but that's all right. It feels as other horses. I want to just keep it at a trot here because I wanted to come back a little softer than that, not in a worried state. So I just kept her going a little bit, make sure I could. Take that nose. I'm just going to wait, wait for it to soften, wait for her feet to slow down. There. Dre, where would you say a lot of people go wrong when they're at this stage of the first ride outside of the round pin? I think trying to steer before you can get them to go anywhere. For me, I've already always found that it's real difficult to direct feet that aren't going anywhere, you know, if they get real flat footed. So, you know, that's why I'm not going to want to do too much more on this mare today because I don't want her to want her to get numb, you know, and then the more I could get her to kind of just have that forward propulsion, the more I'm going to be able to get her to start to steer and start to take her to the places I want to go right now. I'm kind of at her mercy, you know, I will kind of let them bump in between my reins there. And, you know, I'm not really trying to steer them as much as just keep them straight and keep going forward. I think if they learn to stay in between your reins like that, then next thing you know, you just kind of move that pressure over and before you know it, they're steering and they don't even know that they learned it. You know, they just, you kind of almost sneak the training in on them. Well, this mare, we got a few more rides on her than the Baymare, but I want to take the opportunity to kind of show where, you know, I might have built on the Baymares ride in the next, you know, two days, you know, so if that was her third or fourth ride, you know, days five, six, seven, eight, you know, and then so hopefully this, this helps someone. But, you know, once I got to where I could kind of, you know, now I got some forward momentum, I can guide them at any gate, you know, then I might come out here and try to teach them to just stay, stay on this fence on their own, you know, so she might take off right here. That's okay. I'm just going to steer back, you know, so keep trying to put them back over here, you know, so she's going to come off that fence, so I'm going to steer back to it. They might seem counter productive, you know, because, you know, later on we're going to say, well, we don't want them to lean on the fence. Well, we don't, but, you know, a horse doesn't know it's doing something wrong until we tell it it is. So right now I use that fence to kind of kill a bunch of birds with one stone, you know, so I'm able to kind of teach her, oh, how many rides, Trav, did you say these horses had? Oh, maybe 10 or 12, you know, we just spent a lot of time going. She's actually been out of the arena. She's gone on trail rides and stuff, so she's obviously got a lot more riding than that other mare, but, you know, that's, that's what I'm going to build to on all of them. It's not going to be that easy on all of them. Some of them are really going to want to dive in, but what it does for me is gives me a job within the arena to teach them something, you know, and not just be like, well, I got to teach them this because they have to do it. Well, no, I'm like, well, I'm going to see if I can get them to stay over here. And by teaching them that mentality to take responsibility for, for this stuff is, is what I think it's all about, you know, like from an early age, I'm trying to teach them to think and be a part of the process. And that helps me later on when I start working cattle or the flag or, or whatever I'm doing, if I were doing the cow horse, I'd do it the exact same way. Because, you know, on your rundowns, you want them to run straight and run to that stop, you know, so I don't want to lean in. I don't want to have to hold them there. And I know those guys don't either. So I'm just trying to teach them some of that stuff right now. And I think I could start right away, you know, and is this an exercise you got from Don Murphy? Did you say Don, you know, when I went to work for Don, I had started a few colts, but I had the luxury of being able to weed open the round pen and go ride up in the mountains. And, you know, it's, that's an amazing way to be able to start horses. They learned so much in that situation. But I had no idea about riding in, you know, in an arena. So when I went to Don's, I mean, everything was new to me. And that was one of the first drills he taught me was to just