 Wag magpanik kasi yun talaga yung ayun ay mag-apangtapalala ng situasiyan. Bawal magtarabawa, pag ganyang may sa ko na. Sympre, alalay ka sa pamily mo, pamily mo. Launang-unang bahay mo, mo anak mo. Baha, natural, wag kanlulu yung sabah. Pag alam mo malakas na, pag malakas na ang bagyo, wag kanan lumabas. O kaya, yung koreente. Bakit mamaya, mano ka? Mamakoreente ka kasi, pag-once na naputul yung koreente, ok, mabagsakan ka ng mga puno. Pukang lalabas kasi talagang sa time mo naman na madidiscrash ka. Tapot, bagapas tayo sa bahay natin. Si Pagmayo muna, bagapas tayo. Kapag mayroong mga sako na, hindi dapat gawin, kagay nung lindol, wag nang magpanik, wag gumamit ng elevator, pag nasalob ng building. At sa twin may bagyo naman, hindi dapat gawin ay wag nang lumabas, kapag lumalakas ang hangin, magtagot na nang sa isang safe na lukar. Siyempre, yung tumayo ka ng bus tabas, dahil hindi tayo shape, tiro na, no? Pag lindol, siguro, wag magpanik, lalabas na lang ang bahay para hindi makabunan ng mga maulog ng mga bagay-bagay. Paglabas-labas ng bahay kong may lindol, wag kang lalabas ng bahay para hindi ka anong ay nang bagyo. Pag kong ikaw naman ay lalabas ng bahay, maaano ko sa daan, abotang ka ng bagyo, maha. Wag bumalik kong saan, like kanyali, may bagy di tutos na ganyan na yung building. Wag bumalik para sa mga gamit, ganyan. So, na panod natin, ang hirap nalaga sabihin uwan ay yung hindi dapat gawin. Siguro nga din, tayong mga sariling example ng ganyan na unconsciously, subconsciously, we do and we need to explain siguro para matututayo from there. By the way, this again, Benny Pacheco, a structural engineer. I'm Mark Zarco, geotechnical engineer. I'm May the Twin, art studies, Lenike, educational technologies. I'm P. J. Mendoza, a psychologist. And I'm Doi Rosete, I am a visual communicator. Iba-iba yung discipline na natin and let's see kung meron tayong iba-ibang hindi dapat gina-doa. I'd like to start up with an example more structural. Many people after on Doi, for example, decided that they would rebuild their houses on stilts like 2 or 3 meters high, long legs, tall legs. And yet when reminded that in the next possible hazard of an earthquake that is just conversely more earthquake prone, then they realized they should not have just like that, raised all their houses higher. Example yan na, the physics is correct, but the house owner would not know. Kaya on their own, pinatasin ay mga bahay. What not to do actually living from one hazard just to go to another hazard from avoiding flood to hurting earthquake damage. I guess may even examples think ay or maybe you personally experience what not to do. Well, similar to that, people that have experienced floods normally transport or relocate to place that is higher and very often it's prone to landslides. Landslides. Yes, like for example the school house in Gin Saudon was actually put near the mountain because they did not want it to be near the river where it flooded only to be buried by a landslide when there was a landslide there in 2006. Ironically. Yes, aha. Nad, like to refer back to the POS, to the interviews. Particularly yung don't panic parang intuitive yun waga magpanik pero ang dalin sabihin yun mahirap gawin pag nandun ka na. Pangalawa, yung paka bumabag yun na may signal na mga lang malis ng bahay ay pa paano kong nasa mariki nakat naabutan ka ng bahang at hindi ka pa rin ng malis ng bahay on-do-in-on, di ba? So ang point ko siguro dapat hindi rin nag-generalize tingnan din yung mga situation talagang mahirap sabihin o mahirap gawin don't panic pero paano kong paano may iiwasan talagang magpanik pag nandun na yun? Ano ba yung mga nagiging cost ng panic pag nandun na yun? Siguro adok may ang naisip ko yun siguro ipasok natin yan sa di ba yung hindi akabulad ng sinasabi ko pala hagin na dapat bahagi na siya ng pagaara ng bawat isang anong mga estudiantin natin na simula hinder o siguro maliit pa siyang bata alam niya ang gagawin niya para yung may yung sinasabi nilang sa pio ito kanina wag magpanik mahirap ng gagawin niya pero siguro kong naging bahagi na sila ng ng buhay nila yung paano ay sayd at this kahit anong mangyari kahit anong dumatong na situasyon alam na nila yung gagawin na at hindi na sila magpapang So another don't just say it para practice it or drill it I heard of the term muscle memory muscle memory hindi lang panitokis but I don't know in psychology how valid is that that you talk yourself into it or you practice it So psychology baka simulations are very important or what we call more technically role-playing role-playing but when you play a particular role that follow that involves mga actions that you take na yung actions na yun involve muscle memory So yung pagtakbos sa hakdanan hakdanan halimbawa siyepin kailangan mo len ng kontin pagiingat sa pagtakbos sa hakdanan So pag sinabi na o takbun na tayo lahat ganun hindi naman dapat na tatakbokalang na hindi mo din tinitimnan kung saan ka pagtunta So halimbawa yung mga evacuation na calls for evacuation you cannot just say don't leave this place but you don't say where will you go Marami sa ating na kita sa interview pinag-usapan yung aalis ng bahay o hindi aalis ng bahay pareon lang sinabi ng wag pero parang may confusion na kung depende sa situasyon aling yung masama dahil pwerding malik yung mag-stay lang sa bahay Masguro kung tumadas na yung tubig hindi ka palilisan pero baibang ayong siguro yung importante yung informasyon ano-ano yung mga libero nakailangan may particular na aksyon na gagawin eya yung don't na yung na yung puro katurabi nga yung kahit yung sa top tani siguro yung kahit sa arts magali din siguro misa sa music yung nakakakalma yung effect na siguro na musica so kung merong kung in terms of muscle memory merong kung ipapa-memorize siguro kanta ito yung iti re-recite mo akartahin mo pa ganyong kung sa particular aksyon ano parang don't just say it experience it more feel it or hear it sabi nga medoy kanina yung kasing silabi po nung isa na ba'o doon magtrabaho yung interesado ko doon yun okay basin yun tama bang advice yun ba'o wag magtrabaho daw kung merong nangyayaring risk or disaster o sakuna ano kaya background nung magsabi noon can you imagine ito na isa sa mga na trap na mula na ito na si Habagat pinampasok pa rin sila hindi na siya nastranded nastranded yes paro nilobanggit siya na baka mapahiwala siya sa pamilya so so ba'owal magtrabaho o ba'owal lumayo sa immediate family dahil first priority mo na to be with your family okay hindi nang ang pegnon ay do not put anything above your safety yun yun yung lesson to be learned there yung anakong nalala ko yung hundoy may field trip siya sa Los Banos pinipilit nga na kailangan yung tuloy tinawagandong siya nung teacher na daklala at upunta sa Los Banos eno ay kita ko na tuloy-tuloy yung tulon nisa dapat lagay mo muna yung sarili mo sa what will it feel like when you're traveling to Los Banos and the water is already rising so don't ignore advanced warnings just because hundi pa-obvious yung event kasi forthcoming palang palang may example marami yung example na di ba bakit signal 4 ay wala naman but the correct understanding is e kasi parating palang in 6 hours and when it arrives mabilis kaya don't ignore warnings I also notice that sometimes we engage in denial like for example I was guilty of that during on-doy it was a Saturday it was the last day of class in the semester and I really forced myself to go to class despite the fact that it was already flooding on-doy very consciously you ignored the warning because you love school so much because I wanted I was afraid to miss the last class meeting because I was catching up so you valued your class more than your life well, you could say that the story of our lives you're actually putting your students at risk but putting that other value at the end so to naman yung hierarchy ng values na dapat we are aware of so I think many in the educational system that we have are we conscious about this kind of value hierarchies that would be applicable to disaster situations Actually, bilang susubda sasinabi nabibi si kanina yung understanding bakit natin sila binibigan ng warning dapat alam nila may paniwanang tayo kasi like for example akatulad ng sabi mo ayong bakit hindi sila dapat tobak mo sahalda ang pagloading doon so dapat alam nila napag yung ang pagtulad discussion natin pag magbusila sa hagdan pwede mag di ba yung hagdan mag giba yung mag so dapat alam nila yung consequences or pwede mangyari paginawang liyan so dapat klaro din yung hindi na tanong ano ba yung naipasok ba yung sa pagtuturun sa mga astudiantin natin siguro dapat siguro nang natin balikan yung pagtuturong ginagawa natin sa paghanda dito sa ganitong class ng discussion magbigay nang warning without an explanation para hindi you wrote a memory wag kalimutan yung dahilan bakit hindi dapat doon para may deeper understanding speaking of deeper understanding I wonder even sa visual communication may manapapansin bakay yung hindi dapat ginagawa nagagawa baka yung bagay kung misal niya sa mga accident na mismo na may mga dala na saka niya o ay at gusto kumakakuha rin manapapantay sa media pa makagandang poto club siguro may ethics din tayo yung dapat takunan at yung sensitivity yung sensitivity dahil di ba na maling maganda para sa atin abloy o kung saan manapang di pa pakita yan pero yung mga piktado mga tao yung hindi maganda yung dating sa kanila yung one-samantalahin yung situasyon ng mga victim disaster pero di ba sa media yung kumikita maano ba yung hindi dapat mag-coverize nang sensational pero yung kumilenta how can we suggest to redirect that at meron bang paraan sa learning na may negative example tayo nang parang catastrophic but somehow we can direct to redirect to more positive na kaya ihandle sa halit na maging source of desperation or frustration what we call that technique that we show a great example but afterwards we are able to empower the audience that actually it need not happen to you is there such a technique in whether in education or sa shock value karami na kumaginagaming talaga shock value sa learning yung warning nga sa skillet for pops di ba yung mga kaya ang pananakot ay hindi hindi lagi effective kung ano don't depend on scared tactics all the time because what could be the bad consequence? you could be fatalistic na lang re-sign no matter what you do the same effect we don't want that conclusion or mag immobilize ka nalang ay hindi naman pala yun niyo sige para ganoon kaya tanong doing every day maging palasak maging simple wala lang parang tatanggapi nalang natin yun parang nang mag-desensitize sila yun sensationalize yung mga sagot kaninas ng mga people on the street ang gagaling yun sa kanilang parang rinig-rinig sa media pero hindi naman nila nabibigyan ng pagkakatokon na actually dawin pag sinabi mag-do not panic what's the operational or implementation of that di ba do not panic it's very difficult to know not what to do when you don't know what to do ang hirap sa bihin pero again what we're trying to say is once we say what we should not do we should ask the next question what should we do instead or how should we do it instead so the how is very yung the how duto man ko yung do not panic for example but some others would say maybe not in this episode but frequently would say just prepare siguro yung do not panic the flip side is practice or drill or imagine scenarios para mental preparation sabi nga muscle and physical memory so don't just say it practice it something like that pero pwede kong balikan yung sa media kasi kasi kabin natin don't just focus or exploit yung bad situation mga sensational but then it catches attention so maybe that's good kung may flip side natin yung anong saving value noon para in the end we learn or the readers the viewers would learn still learn something from that situation maybe there's an approach yung ibanalang ginago ay yung binabler yung mga yung areas ginago ang anonymous yung persona but still the event is captured kung papami siya sa extent of the kung anman yan damage to sa so do not show gory scenes but still suggests by in a tamer version para makature pa rin yung a little bit of shock value pag natumatch but I think there's also this problem sometimes when there is a disaster the victims are often interviewed despite the fact that they are in a state of shock so they are still trying to cope up with their loss and yet here's a reporter or here's a person that interviews them shoves a microphone in their mouth and tries to ask how are you feeling or something like that victims of earthquakes who have been interviewed while they're still almost totally buried and then they're being asked ano mam nararam naman mungay natatapot ka ba and I think that is actually an opportunity you said it earlier very to empower a person you can say may datating na ano na tulong ano so wag ka na lang wag ka masyadong magpanit that's when you can say that wag ka masyadong magpanit kasi may datating na tulong which reminds me do not be a volunteer or do not be a frontliner unless you have that training skills the right approach don't just go there's a frontier to speak for a quick coverage dahil it takes a lot to do it right especially kung affected ang taon na isupang nagsabi ng wag e yung bawal bawal dumabas I'd like to focus on where to go kasi parang confused sila actually yun pan natin ma-redirector masin merong itasabi bawal dumabas nang nagsabi naman bawal what do you think dahil parang right there conflicting bawals so wala na tiran bawal dumabas bawal to me again what do you think anong interpretation of that those situations may be when the person said that it's not good to go out may be at a specific hazard in mind I would say that's a different person yes, yes may be a typhoon I recall me and P.G. were survivors of typhoon New Lynn and you know the roofs were flying and in the lal when the eye of the storm was here in Manila people were going out looking at all of the damage thinking it was over thinking that it was over and only to be caught in the second the tail the tail of the typhoon yes so yun ang bawal dumabas tamang situation in case of a typhoon yes, I would demand but in case of an earthquake I think bawal dumabas for the first one minute yes wait it out until the strong shaking is done but after that you really have to leave why? because there's a chance of an aftershock and until the building or the house has been checked to be worthy to be reoccupied you should not return so ibang situasyon doon kailangan lumabas after the one minute so it depends sa situasyon which may be kone yung hazard even in one situation at every point you have to continuously assess the vis so yun bawa yung classicon na sa second floor ng alma hall hanix so na siya shake na like duck hold and cover na tagal doon na tumigil bigla so nag-file out pakunta sa hadana nag-umbisa na naman it started shaking so I said you know stop let's just wait a while because we may be caught in the stairs and we can be flung down to the ground so you continuously you don't just go follow one instruction without assessing what the situation is at that point in time don't follow a general instruction without adapting to the evolving situation kasi maaring nag-i-ibana rin okay which brings me to the idea of drills anong tingin yun doon yung drill halimawa ng metroma nila for the big one what did you think of that? I mean I'm asking what is it that you shouldn't do for drills? halimawa wag tumigil sa foto pwede bang selfie selfie pwede bang pagpusapan afterwards what went wrong what went right because in every drill there is supposed to be a post processing of how effective it was so I suppose ang isokang what not is do not stop at the drill process the outcome of the drill and maybe adjust your plan for the future di pa parang di natin, hulang wag tumigil sa drill without processing afterwards sa UP dapat yung binda natin nyan actually parang hulang nil tayo who are you? kahit ang UP maybe sa general observation siya kasi guro dapat gawin natin nga lagang serioso tumali na ito kasi nitsang di ba sa drill nila naman nila kasi they don't take it seriously like a smile pa sila otak mo na kayo yung halakat patas ko pa nila yung bag nila so parang may isip pag yung gagami natin itong drill talaga palagay natin sa isip nila na kahit mangyayari ito at mangyayari sa dapat handa talagang pag-i-isip pa nila kinagawa ko ito para masave ko yung life hindi lang naman sarili ko kasi ako bilang guro di ba isipin mo rin yung mga studentin mo di ba ko so parang ko't siya malama si save ako ba muna unantatak kasi kailang parin sa isipin sa rin ko pero isipin mo rin sa tapos yung kailangan kailangan ano alam mo rin kung pa may process yung mga panicking pwede nila kaya lang naman sa isipin nakikitang hindi kaya lang hindi k적인in ko nang kandaka hindi hindi hindi gilurin mga nang dasa na talaga sa isipin na ganoon ko and then going back, we should process what we failed to do so that afterwards there's an improvement of the drill. So do not god paglaruwan yung drill na hindi lang masalaro. Scenario siya, maybe it's called the game in English, but really it's serious game. Scenario game. Nakapag-scenario drill na pa tayo sa ating mga schoolahan. Tayo kayo? Minsan sa amin. So one pa, one kalimutang gawin. Saabi namin, pwede na, pwede na. One basta basta hindi. Pwede basta basta hindi na. I was doing my graduate work in the university na. Every time I have a drill, first time ko mag-participate sa drill. At ang naisip na dapat lumabas, ay lumabas ako, the nightgown lang. So hindi pwede pumasopas sa isang drill o mag-participate sa isang drill without really knowing what you're supposed to be doing as part of that drill. Speaking of drill na lalako, wad daw mag-drill physically kung nag-skip ka ng tabletop exercise, maybe that's what we're trying to say. Wad kalimutang yung paper or tabletop exercise bago kumunta sa actual drill. Dahil hindi mo pwede nge-assume na basta mag-react tayo ng tama sa drill kung kinalimutan naman natin yung tabletop exercise. Marami talagang hindi dapat gawin, kahit sa during and event. I wonder kung even sa pod pa-plano pa lang yung balapang actual na disaster, risk pa lang, meron din ba mga what not to do. So planning pa lang, meron din ba mga dapat iwasan gawin. Alimbawa natinibig ba yung comment pa datay sa mga hazard maps that published those to agency X na sa mapa, lahat daw ng lugar na sa buong syudad, tinawag na isang zone. Lambawa kung sa ito, kung tayo sa bahak, Lachong Red, parang na over-generalize. Hindi nang tanong ng mga tao ngayon, sumpo kami titira. So parang wad din mag-over-generalize, right? I think we learned from that more recently na the maps are more detailed. Some are hazardous red, some are less hazardous yellow. I wonder kung alimbawa nakatangapla ba kayo ng warning ng typhoon, tapos, tinyo nyo exagerated. Hindi jabi na. Baka yun din isang hindi daw. Well, I recall there was a signal for and I had a meeting and I had a colleague with me and we decided to go on with the meeting and this was millennial and then we were caught in the middle of the storm. And you were not even eight years old, right? I was much more hurt. I was older at the time. And still you did that, no? Still I did that, yes. So you'd say what was your lesson, not to do? Well, you know, why did I do that? Because previous instances when there was a signal for declared, nothing happened. So I generalized. And I guess it was the idea that maybe this is just one of those false alarms. Okay, do not be skeptical of warnings even if in the past, warnings did not translate to actual. To actual, yes. Yun nga, ay problema lalagi daw ay ang pagasa. Kaya kong araw pa, pagadopender dick na uulan, ay hindi naman uulan, lahat na lang nagagalit sa pagasa. Wag, ba wal magalit sa pagasa, dahil ang nireport pala nila, likelihood ng pagulan para may advance warning. And yet, talagang may chance na hindi to do, hindi makata-tulong. So wag, mag-overgeneralize, I see. But it came out okay. It came out while I survived. Okay, that way. But I guess I learned my lesson there, that we should not just stop dismiss things like that just because we've had experiences in the past where we felt that there was a false warning. I wonder how other sectors feel. Oh, mga bata. Bata muna. Kani na pinagusapan natin eh. Siyempre, bata ako gusto kung magtampisaw sa uulan or kahit may mga rubbles na jyan, yung mga nag-collapse to building, halimbawa, para ang sarap magtagoan dun. Bata kasi, no? You're again eight years old. No, na even younger, nagbabaril-barilan kami dun sa mga supposedly hazardous na mga areas. So paano yun? Paano sa sabihin sa bata na, magtampisaw? Gusto niya magtampisaw? Bawal magtampisaw, pero innocently, they don't understand why not, why power. Para mabariktay nung sana sabi nila ni Kani na. In fact, meron dapat prior education and explanation. Why not? Check mo na yung tubay. Something poisonous. O kaya nung sakit na yun yung gani sa dada? Leptospirosis. Na may infect ka sa flood water. My question to them is something like this. Very often we tell people not to do things, but it's only after, it's really happened to them that they really take the, they really believe. We can say that you can get sick from swimming in dirty water, but sometimes people will dismiss. Until? Until they get sick and then something bad comes out of it. So how do we address that? Paano kaya maging learning experience? Parang ang hirap nalagatanggapin. It's kaya sabihin ang teacher. Pero hindi pa naman e-experience. Pero kasi makalasak, yung sinasabi din natin yung triad na community, school, chaka home. So dapat yung tatlong institution ngayon. Dapat, di ba nagpokok naman. They're aligned. So para, kasi minsan, ang experience ka namin, masasaki kining ang mga bata sa teacher. Pero siyempre, dependerin yun nga, kahit sabihin yun, pero pag, pag magulang naman, yun nga yung nani, ko sabihin ng nani ko, di pa parang, so parang yun dapat yung tatlong, yun yung community, dapat may aligned lahat yung values na i-instill nila din sa bata. Para at least, so katulad na, pag bawal maliko sa bahak, kasi, pwede di ka mag-alipto, pero siyempre, pwede di ka ma-korean, pwede di ma-lunok mo yung tubit mag-alipto. Or malunod ka. Malunod ka, di ba? So parang dapat, yung education ng bata, ano-anong consistent with or reinforced ng home, o kaya mismo ng community. So, kontrahin yung sinabi ng ibang party o sector, salip sana i-reinforce in a different way. Dua ka ng comics. Pilip sila doon sa bida, kaya gagayahin. That's another way of reinforcing. For puppets, nakakabikay ang puppets ng glasses na hindi itwetin yung. Okay, so wag laging sabihin lang in words kasi same way. Makin mas imaginative. Dahil, iba ibang parang para-absorb. Right. So kahit pala uditulitin natin yung don't panic, don't panic, hindi pala pwede yung dunon lang in words. Wag kanon, but show, why not? And then what else to do? Visually. Anin ang bagan lang, in music pa yun. Through other senses. Sir, mula kaysense. Doon at be a bad role model. And doon at be a bad role model yourself. Pa, mag-CLSS na. Pala ko. O kasi part niyo ng senses, nakita nila. By example, so na pickup. If your parent is making tampisaw there, iba. So you're likely to. So don't be a bad example. Yes. Pangan naman kaya dun sa mga nasa posisyon, yung mga talaga may formal na-responsibilidad, ano? Ang ba yung mga rin napapansin natin na si Mayor, si Agency, si Chairman, na nagagawa, pero apat sana hindi nagagawa, o ibang pakagawa. Anong example ba kayo na isip? Nga nakapocus lagi sa response during a disaster. Hindi, o kaya right before a disaster, let's say, Yolanda, o Andoy. Dun nakapocus, nakat long-term ng proseso. Even before that. Wag mag-focus too much sa response, umpisahan sa before, mitigation, preparation. Yes, yes. Para nga kasing, hindi kasi, para kasing attention na getting yung pagmalatit na yung, mading lahat ang warning. Zero kosho di evacuated, pasang sa dinin, walang na matay. Evacuate, evacuate. Nga na ayaw bag evacuate yung ibad and mayroon din naman silang maaling loss of property, raya, makisecure mo na yun, maaling nipag-aaral, dali, so secure mo na yun. Kung official tayo, wag kalimutan yung pananawan ng mismo pamilya. Kasi madaling sabihin ng official na, evacuate ko yung lahat yun, pero yung pamilya yung neisip yung kabohaya nila, may biliterally yung bahay. Hindi yung bahay, mga hayop nila. Ayop, nakasama. Wag kalimutan yung pananawan ng individualists and families para ang ating officials grounded. So mga plano, dapat, you know, you don't plan without consultation. Exactly. Constituents. Do not plan just by yourself. Don't forget to consult the actual community. Dali na sa disaster risk na na, sila mismo yung actors. Sa school, what else do we do wrong? Kasi meron siguro, no? Hindi kasi, sabagay kasi ang mga schools kag may mga disaster laging, sila yung evacuation center. Mga public schools. Oh, siguro parang hong yan, ay lagingan ng iayari. Parang dapat, kasi ayung sa plano din, sa saman na natin. Kasi sila laging naman pinupuntahan evacuation centers. So, wag din sila kalimutan, ang mga schools na yan na naging evacuation centers later na. Tapagusapan din yung, wag ilagay ang mga evacuees just anywhere, kahit saan, baka yung pinag-evacuate na saranda, mas filigroso pa yung seplasyon, may wentongan, na yulanda, mas we know warin na yung talikto, yung kalagayin sa evacuation ng iligyan, ay sa yung bahayin. Kaya, yung yulanda, the studies of the college of medicine is that, the incidence of, incidences of HIV are 30% higher for people who were evacuated in the evacuation centers. Because prolonged yung evacuation, and then you also have cases of rape in evacuation centers. So, you cannot blame parents, for example, from not evacuating because they will say, why will we jump from the frying pan to the fire? Basta-basta ilagay sa evacuation area na hindi maayos dahil kung lalo nakumatagala. So, in relation to what Lenny said, you don't set up an evacuation center without planning for the design of that evacuation center. That's right. Don't just say school building today, evacuation area tomorrow, without providing facilities, amenities. Yeah. Siguro, papasok din yung kasi iba-iba yung idad nila, naman, mula baby ng galt 80 years also. Para yung paraan ng pag-asikasin sa kanala, iba-iba yung sa mga evacuation. Correct. So, baby siya, sa dupad, merong karing preparation para sa, dupad inabakuit mo siya, dapat yung baby din, pan-introduction para sa kanala. Meron di sa sobrang matanda. So, maidad na. Kagayan namin? Hindi na. Dipakami sobrang. So, wag kalimutan yung iba-ibaang age groups, iba-ibaang vulnerabilities, kaya niya, pati yung disability na. I think they should also focus going back to the thing about politician station. Also focus in ensuring that lifeline facilities are secure because let's say like in the Buhal earthquake, there were so many hospitals that fell down, the slopes. There were a lot of people that were confined in these hospitals that needed to be transferred. Fire stations, police stations with criminals could get out. So, many of these wag kalimutan dag-dagan ang protection sa mga essential facilities dahil magiging lifeline sila in case. Yes. So, you'd need the firemen to risk it. So, Bawal yung budget na pwede na yan because hospital yan dapat doble ingat. And be careful when we put our hospitals. Generalang kasi, lotig ko yan, Bawal yun. Dapat piliin talaga yung lugar, lala na po hospital or fire station or police station. Adami nalagang hindi dapat pero dapat hindi dapat ayusipan. Right. Yung mga ating persons on the street na realize nangaila marami hindi dapat pero kahit pala tayo sa professions sa mga natin, kahit sa media people, kahit sa government officials. Pwede na pang isang important dapat wag magsisihan. Dapat wag magsisihan. Tama, sounds familiar. Wala mga nga nga susihahan. Lalo rin sa mga local government units sa mga alam natin. Recently, may pagkakataw and where they, the politicians were just blaming each other. Yes. At, you know, maybe pareho sa lang tama, maybe pareho sa lang mali kasi hindi naman lahat ng certain at the start. Wag magsisihan. Bawal magsisihan. Para naman yung mga ang halimbawa may nangyari na isang disaster reconstruction na or rehabilitation na. So, fast forward tayo sa bandang dulu. Ano naman na mga bawal? Tapos na yung evacuation, babalik na tayo, pero meron bang hindi dapat gawin at nakigit natin ginagawa. At kung sa stage na yung yung babalik na? Bawal bumalik sa same flood area. Bawal ba yun? Or to learn from the disaster, I guess we need to take stock of what we did wrong and where we went. Wrong in the disaster. So we don't make that same mistake. Wag mag-rebuild ng parewa lang sa dati dahil baka parang hindi na tuto. Pero tama ba yung sinasabi na kung nice storm surge ka, bawal ng bumalik dun sa 40 meters anywhere from the coastline? Amapayon? O na niniwala ka tayo? Tapos na, makanda. Makanda ang ayon. Mas bagaling paulit yung bagayon. Hindi si Maggie ang wag lang bako over-generalize. Kasi namin ang categorikal na bawal mag tayo ng kahit na doon para na yung livelihood na pang pang sure man and so dapat maging specific wag over-generalize. Kasi di ba, hindi na tulid yun sabi na bawal mag-relocate na malapir. Pero nasusunod, kasi nga dapat may contextual. Nahirap talagang upaliwana yung mga hindi dapat go in. Pero siguro sa iba ka nating episodes makapakidren natin yung katapat kung ano yung mas tamang go in. Perhaps taking the two together what not to do and what to do instead or how to do instead would be a better learning experience. Narito na gamuturo na mamlili. Dalo na paginupisahan sa And dapat kasi we don't think of the hard things that we have to do but the good things says we'll come with what you call it. That's right. Sana hindi tanggap hindi hindi nating ay panibawal ang mga bata nang nag-reveldin. Panibawal, panibawal. Uwana na sabihan mo silang wag gawin sila. Siguro nang mas galing empowering. E-empower lang e-empower. Ipaluwan na yung wag yan pero may pwede yung ibang gawin. E-empower man. So, bawal kanlubas ng masyadong gabi sa gabi pero at home pwede kong makinignang music so begin natin na alternative para hindi helpless yung mga talong. Ang di tayo kailangan tumiloy in next episodes kung bawal ito anong hindi dapat anong hindi bawal. What do you think? So maybe That's a basic psychological principle. Hase we cannot say to a child magmoeni don't put your finger in that socket you have to tell you what to do instead. So it goes back to the very basic na human behavior whether human individual or organizational it's so dramatic to say what not to do but it's really so hard to follow instead we should know why not to do or how or what. Well mayroon tayo siguro ang ibang episodes para pagusapan yung what not to do in an earthquake or what not to do in a flood pwede pa natin iditalian at whether we are scientists or media people or government officials better din tayo tumingin paulit sa perspectives na yan but siguro sa ngayon we have appreciated enough yung kahirapan ng tanong atin persons on the street kahirapan tayo mismo di ba yung what not to do so we have to be ready next time with what to do or the best or better practices so on that note maybe we should now say goodbye for now