 Human nature that was performed by Michael Jackson. No kidding. Which song human nature the Michael Jackson one Yeah, they wrote that song didn't Sure, um, I did not realize that but that's a wonderful song. They did not write rhythm nation So Veronica you see you have Multiple stories, right? This is so lagged like I can you guys are breaking up just constantly Letting you know Yeah, yeah, I've I'm getting the same problem. Really you are too Sarah Yeah, I mean I restarted and the like extreme lag I had before has Fixed itself, but it's like it's the same thing that was happening You know over the last half hour where it's just like I can hear you, but I'm having to put certain words together myself. I see All right, I Don't know everything is everything is broken I mean, oh Dylan wrote but that's never the issue. No, I don't think it's a I don't think it's a local issue for any of us Well, we're all heavy in the problem. So it's something going on there All right, do we well? I mean do we want Veronica to restart or is it worth it? She just did right? Yeah Oh, you did. Oh, sorry. I was doing the same thing Yeah, all right. Oh We can just cross our fingers and hope it's not some spooky Halloween on fence Who I gotta take my kid out to trick-or-treating Veronica, do you feel like you can read headlines? Do you hear us enough to? Jump in like that. You said the first half of your sentence. Oh boy. Okay. Oh, I can tell when your lips stop moving Can you but you can't hear what we're saying not sometimes in the second half Okay, that's weird that's not we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Well, that's what I'm asking. Do you think you could do it? Sure, I'll do my best. Okay. All right Sarah are you ready? I am ready All right. Well, let's give it a whirl. Here we go Daily Tech news show is powered by you to find out more head to Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news from Monday October 30th 2017 at DTNS headquarters in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and From studio feelin at the beach. I'm Sarah Lane And from sunny ish San Francisco. I'm Veronica Belmont Sunny ish. I like that. There probably some sun up there somewhere We've all been restored to our normal climates as the heat has broken in California. And so I think it's starting to get cold elsewhere, too Producer Roger Chang is with us as well. Roger. How are you? I am good Good. Are you cool? I am an actually nice cool overcasty weather Out in Burbank. All right. Fantastic. Well, let's start with a few tech things you should know Firefox will start requiring users to give permission in the Firefox 58 That's a couple versions from now to use the canvas element to perform cookie list tracking In other words, you'll have to approve a website before it can do this The canvas element can be used to draw an image on a hidden canvas creating a fingerprint of a user's graphics card That is likely unique So it can be used for legitimate purposes or for secret tracking purposes And then a future version of Firefox, you'll have to say no, it's okay You're using it for a legitimate purpose or it's okay to track me before it can be used at all Is there a unique fingerprint that could be taken of somebody's graphics card that isn't just the serial number It's a combination of signals So it's the way the graphics card and the operate operating system interact to draw the image plus You know the fonts being used and they they combine a whole bunch of data Got it. Well square just released the square register Which is a point-of-sale device that has separate screens for the buyer and seller Which is different than the swivel back-and-forth single screen that you see on Sort of smaller merchants that square has worked with up until now The new screen is detachable for different countertops supports tap to pay has ethernet and a five port usb hub I don't know. I feel cool when they swing it towards me, but I guess it's not optimal I always feel cool when they trust me to point it back towards me and like as though I could just delete the whole transaction They wouldn't know maybe The Houston Chronicles Dwight Silverman described several AT&T form threads posted by people who claim AT&T Canceled their iPhone X pre-orders AT&T customers also complained of canceled orders during the launch of the iPhone 4 and 6 Still say an X, huh? To say 10 It's 10. I mean, it's not I haven't told no, no, I don't know man because I haven't told it's Phone X and that's Apple's Apple says it's 10 Just saying and that because that's not what he believes Indian startups have raised almost 10 billion dollars so far this year according to research firm Traxin Which is probably not pronounced Traxin is probably track X and or track 10 and that's a huge jump from 2016 $4.4 billion in 2015's record 7.9 billion dollars, and it's also on fewer rounds of funding Implying that not only is more money coming into the startup scene in India, but it's coming more selectively They're not just throwing it around wantonly All right, here are some more top stories Microsoft has killed off outlook.com premium which if you weren't already a user included an ad-free inbox among other perks and is merging it over to Office 365 home and Personal subscribers a support document about the changes states current subscribers can renew their subscriptions to continue receiving subscription benefits Whatever that means Custom domain support is one of those benefits. So it sounds like if you're already a customer You're not going to get left in the lurch. But in general, this is a feature that's being phased out Yeah, that's that's what I got out of it is as long as you continue renewing. We won't cut you off We're not we're not sunlight. We're not sunsetting the domains and that's really the difference here is most of the features It sounds like are going into office 365 But if you signed up for outlook.com premium with a domain, you know, your own work domain That's something that isn't offered necessarily an office 365 for consumers. It's offered on the enterprise level So you'll be able to keep using outlook premium on your domain Without having to upgrade to some big business level domain system that has more than you need indefinitely And I didn't see anywhere, you know a particular Number of people who'd be affected by this change, but I have to assume that wasn't a huge big Market for Microsoft, which is why they're Funneling it into something else. They think is more lucrative. Yeah, they probably just simplifies their product offering Which often that's something Microsoft needs to do I'll say Nintendo sold 2.9 million switch console units in Q2 bringing total sales up to 7.6 3 million The company raised its forecast on switch sales for the year from 10 to 14 million more than the Wii U sold in its five year Sorry 219.9 billion Japanese yen beating expectations a smartphone and IP related income increases 426% to 17.9 billion yen So I mean it's good. It's good earnings for Nintendo, but the big story here is the switch console Selling well not only well, but better than expected I remember sales for the year at 10 million was considered to be an aggressive goal that they probably would reach and now They're saying they might hit 14 million and of course the inevitable comparisons to the Wii U are sad But true Monday YouTube rolled out a YouTube TV app for Android TV and Xbox one apps will roll out the coming weeks for Apple TV Roku and smart TVs from Samsung Sony and LG YouTube has no rollout plans for Amazon fire TV devices That's because YouTube and Amazon are in a big fight If you remember YouTube pulled videos from the Amazon Echo show now They're not going to bring YouTube TV to Amazon fire TV Can decide for yourself who you think that really hurts more the TV based apps for everybody else though We'll have a full grid programming guide That's something you don't get on the mobile version and it'll let users scroll through a transparent sidebar of channels while the video Stays playing to try to emulate what happens on your phone where the video stays playing at the top way you scroll below it It also supports voice search now that'll be implemented differently depending on the platform But the fact that it's in there is pretty cool I'm very excited when I was what I've been waiting for When I was watching the World Series game last night YouTube TV was being advertised heavily because I'm not a network TV and You know that they they talk a good game, but a lot of it is like your MLB official place where it's like well, that's almost over Well, I you know I it does sound a little weird when it's like game seven your MLB official place But there will be another season, right? And and I think what they're really going for is a lot of people think oh if I cut the cord I can't watch sports and I think YouTube Hulu PlayStation View They're all out there marketing whatever sports they can to try to Bash through that perception and say no you you can get your sports Maybe not every single piece of sports ever but you can you can get the World Series You can get the World Series on YouTube TV now Veronica You say you've been waiting for this. Is that because you're thinking of switching to YouTube TV? Yes, we have switched only from we did the station view with our first our first foray into this world We weren't happy with that because of playback issues and just hated the scrubbing Didn't like the interface at all. So we switched over to the direct TV Option and we've not been happy with that either and plus we don't get certain things certain channels and sports Stuff that we wanted so now Now that they're going there's going to be a YouTube TV app for Apple TV, which is what we use It seems like the perfect combination of things and price point as well Nikai Asia says sources tell it that Japan soft bank group plans to break off Negotiations toward a merger between sprints which soft bank owns and T-MOMO us you might be asking why? Well failure to come to terms on who would majority own such a combined entity it turns out Which is not unusual for big companies and these sorts of situations soft bank is expected to approach T-MOMO owner Dway to telecom by as early as tomorrow Tuesday to propose ending the talks soft bank tried unsuccessfully to buy T-MOMO back in 2014 now I have to say I Was happy that AT&T did not buy T-MOMO and I turned out to be I don't even want to say right, but that that happiness was well founded because T-MOMO has become a strong competitor However, I have been less unhappy with the idea of T-MOMO and sprint combining not because I want to see fewer competitors But that sprint doesn't seem to be a strong competitor What I wonder is if that's because Everyone assumes they were going to merge and so the momentum really hasn't got going behind them Which is kind of what happened to T-MOMO T-MOMO was a weak competitor They were fourth until the AT&T merger fell through and then they said well, you know what and the Jarrett probably said effort Let's let's try something different. Let's be crazy. Let's try things Nobody else will try and they've moved from fourth to third Do you guys think that it's possible that could happen to sprint if this falls through? I mean both soft bank and Dway to telecom being so huge for it to be a dispute about well Who owns majority stake which means whoever owns majority stake has Sort of that, you know can kind of say what goes That does seem to be a non-starter. You know, it's not even Unique to either of those companies. That's just what why would you do that? If you were going to lose but do you think sprint can get enough momentum if they're like fine Nobody's gonna buy us. We do we have a big corporate daddy and soft bank. Let's try to make it on our own Do you think maybe that could work? I Mean I've never been a sprint customer. I know people who are I know they're you know a bit of a distant third at least in the US market but Yeah, at this point, it's like well, what are your choices really? Maybe if they come at it from a different angle a different kind of perspective that then the VF carriers are kind of going for right now I'm not sure what that would be. Maybe it's continuing to be like Boss plans or or no contracts or I'm not sure what the angle could be that would work for them But there's there's got to be some underserved market or a group that they could focus on But who knows maybe if they did that they would have done that already Yeah, I think they were holding off on taking too many risks, and I hope this will make them take more Weekend writer Thomas baked. I'll notice that Google places the cheese below the meat patty in its burger emoji After a normal Twitter storm about the discovery Google CEO Sundar Pichai wrote that they will drop everything else They are doing an address on Monday smiley face if folks can agree on the correct way to do this It seems LG Samsung Apple and Microsoft all put the between-fond ingredients in a different order Only Microsoft does it in the traditional lettuce tomato cheese patty order Facebook also puts it in the traditional order. I'm sorry go ahead I think this is this is troubling but not quite as troubling as the the beer Emoji that Google has put out into the world Roger I'm not sure if we can bring beer up onto the screen for the for the video viewers I think it's just a especially confusing Because most the beer emoji Apple does it pretty normally all the other folks do it pretty normally But beer in Google's world has foam a cup where there is no beer at the top of mug So if you look closely, you'll see the beer is only about halfway up the top of the mug And then there's foam and I'm not sure if Google realizes that's not how beer works No, I it's it's a bad drawing But that's that blank space between the surface of the yellow beer is foam. Yes No, that's just supposed to be foam in the glass Clearly an empty space that is negative space in there That's not doing it right But if you look at Samsung's Samsung put some dots in there to make it clear otherwise Samsung It has bubbles. Yeah, I mean they they are clearly indicating that there are bubbles in the cup in foam for Samsung's emoji version I don't even try. I don't know how did this get through approvals? I don't understand Why is this news? What? Why is this news? Why did this become the top of Google news today? Why do people care so much because I know I know there's at least one and probably more persons out there like why are you? Talking about this in the show. I think it's not news I think it speaks to an internal difference in you know, organizational differences Priorities core company values. I think this really speaks to the internal workings of a large technology Organization and how things get done. I'm just saying I you know, I think you're being facetious But I think you're also partly right like I think I'm maybe I'm not being facetious. I'm not we don't know We can't be sure Facetious It has at least something to do with the fact that emojis are now displayed at lots of different sizes You know at the beginning it was like the tiny little emojis, you know They text to friends and it's like you kind of get that it's a beer mug But like the details you can't see that unless you have like a supervision and now Depending on the service that you're using emojis sometimes appear quite larger and like That beer mug is not right. Yeah or with the burger one even more so like wait a minute You don't put the cheese down there and then we can have a disagreement about how burgers should be constructed That isn't political. It's religious. It's you know, it's just fun I think there's a little bit of relief here Because it's it's a typical geek argument, right? Like how should this emoji really be constructed? And and we kind of need these from time to time. I I don't want to run over time But I basically want to point out on the Google beer essentially what they did was Repurpose a beaker from a science emoji added a handle and then added a foam top. There you go. See Get some research Decidive of the inner workings of the organization recycling assets. This is the speaks to a larger problem Sampling of emoji. Yeah, real issue. It does it does show the design Quarks of the various entities involved For sure. Hey, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines in each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines dot-com. It's available as a podcast and Amazon Echo flash briefing a Google home Briefing thanks to the anchor app and you can get in the anchor app at anchor dot FM All right, Sarah a couple of stories today one about a poor engineer whose daughter's YouTube video got him fired Because it showed the iPhone 10 and the other about how iPhone sales are bouncing back in China Yeah, it's sort of a smartphone extravaganza discussion today, which we felt like hey, it's Monday. Let's let's do that So let's start with a Some data from Canalist which estimates that iPhone sales in China grew 40 percent year-over-year That's in Q3 led by the iPhone 8 However, this is pretty significant because the previous six quarters all declined in iPhone sales in the country now Apple even with 40 percent Ground gained which sounds pretty good is still fifth place Huawei, Oppo, Vivo and Xiaomi are all ahead of iPhone and then the five account for 75 percent of all devices shipped Again in China so overall Chinese smartphone shipments fell 5% and that's significant as well iPhone made some strides, but overall of the big five There is less demand overall so so yeah, we we we saw a Matureing of the Chinese market right where where the the demand Sarah we we lost you there for a second. Sorry about that But yeah, we're seeing this leveling out and and this maturing of the Chinese market and the fact of the matter is That's not a bad thing for phones selling in China It's a harder thing for companies because China is no longer the place where you can just jump in and say ah There's there's a hugely growing market Anybody can jump in and take it over That's now the Indian market that that's where you want to go with the Indian market We heard about startups, but on Friday Canalist estimated the worldwide smartphone sales in India grew 23% To 40 million it is now the number two phone market after China And I you know it it may seem obvious to folks, but what this means is that? Smartphones are penetrating the world more so now than ever I Chinese China is still the largest smartphone market But it's going to be harder to make progress there Without having it come at the expense of another competitor. I think it's actually really cool too because in in many ways is showing that the That is the technology spreading throughout underserved areas But you know when as as devices become more readily available to developing nations or to poor regions within Countries like China that have you know a very a huge variance between the haves and the have-nots You know it only it can also really elevate the rest of the society and bring information and education and Accessibility to to places where they were not previously so hopefully this will help balance the Well, it's I mean one very interesting thing about it is it kind of underscores how much of the Chinese market has matured to the point where you are now saturated with smartphones that You know you when you go into a mature market You cannot gain the same type of market share as if it were starting from kind of a much lower plateau And so the Chinese market is richer which also means that customers and consumers are more sophisticated That means their taste will Maybe not markedly but enough from what they would have accepted maybe five or six years ago They they want different things and so it really kind of underscores that you really need to not only understand the market But also how to navigate fewer people are getting their first phone more people are looking to improve from their last phone And that's you know That's when you start to pay attention to the fact that even though the China market declined by five percent Huawei increased vivo increased Xiaomi increased a bit of an apple increased It was oppo that decreased and that starts to be a very big problem that you say oh That is that the next blockberry is that the next Nokia for China That's right And there probably a lot of people who go back to having a new smart phone device after this So it's just like you said they the market becomes more mature Users figure out what they want they start looking into more alternatives They start maybe looking outside of the iPhone market if it's not meeting their needs So it's just it's really it's a really interesting time And we have to also remember that this is still a small segment of a massive Population so there's still a lot of work to be done and there's still a lot of people who can potentially be sold to It's just a you know We're starting to to really crack the crack that nut. Yeah Meanwhile apples out there trying to you know scrape up a bigger Chinese market Canalus telling them good news growing 40% year over year But the verge has a story saying that a lot of retailers in China are discounting the iPhone 8 now It's hard to say if this is because they're not seeing sales or if there's people waiting for the iPhone 10 But if that discount does mean that sales dropped off a cliff that 40% jump could be a problem Unless the iPhone 10 were to fill in the gap, but the iPhone 10 has supply issues So it's going to be harder for that to fill in the gap. How do I get that discount? Have you fly to China? Yeah, I mean your discount has to be yeah, your placer has to be less than 1,100 yen, right Sarah, right? Yeah, exactly Should we talk about Bringing your daughters to work. Yes real quickly before before we move along and now that Sarah is back We we talked about the Chinese market and we meant I mentioned briefly about the poor Apple engineer Well, maybe he's poor. Maybe he's not maybe he's just you know should have wised up, but His daughter Sarah. I mean she showed things that to me seemed like what I saw on stage Here's the thing so the you know the story is is that an Apple engineer somebody who worked on the iPhone 10 Had his daughter come to the Apple campus in Cupertino She was playing around with the with the new iPhone the iPhone 10 and and and She's a teenager kind of you know vlogger very excited about the whole thing showing off a few a Few specs nothing too crazy sort of sitting in the Apple cafe Not really attempting to hide anything which sort of leads you to believe that other people in the same area we're doing the same thing or a bunch of people in there and Um, you know the the video got some traction and apparently Her dad has since been fired from the company for allowing her to do such a thing now You know, I don't know how close you guys watched it. I I don't know. I kind of thought she was cute But you also you know her dad appears in this video and there's no kind of like keep it down Keep it down like I don't think he thought he was doing anything wrong. No, it appears that he did. Yeah He Yeah, like he was like, I'm a cool dad, you know, I'm showing my daughter something that you know Other people haven't seen yet, but not something that was like we're gonna get no lot of trouble It just didn't feel that way to me. Um And so and tom to your point the fact that you know, this phone isn't a secret We've seen it. There's been hands-on reviews. There are units review units out to various publications Is it this big a deal? But you know, again, it's apple who is a message controlling Nazi Column, it's not called that in this day and age right now that that word is a little harsher than I think I was thinking Steve Nazi, but a message controlling, uh, stickler. How about that? Uh, Right, I think you know, it's I may Please I don't know when you guys can hear me and when you can't So I'm trying to be careful. Um, I think the apple probably makes it very clear what their rules employees about Talking about and showing devices that have not yet been released In any kind of public forum outside of the campus or inside of the campus to people who are non employees And for outside thing, uh, I think they probably make that extremely clear And I don't know if this guy is new or not. Do I think he should have lost his job? Do I think there were probably very clear rules and regulations about just this exact kind of situation? 100 they're probably very clear about this Well, probably I'm positive. They are very clear about this And so I think this is just a it's just a sucky situation for this guy. He should have known better I mean, it's apple. We don't work there and we know better and I think that it's suck And other work it was an honest mistake. Maybe he'll work for a company That's a little less secretive about this kind of stuff or maybe has, you know, a little more understanding But it's apple. That's how they roll. I mean, everybody knows that it's it's it should have been really obvious Yeah, and I don't think they're trying to say otherwise. Are they? Oh, I don't know who's trying to say anything. I mean, this the story is just kind of it's sad But I I think it's probably makes it I'm not shocked by it or or surprised by it or You know, honestly, I don't even feel that bad for him because of it because I mean a lot of people want to work at apple and know What their rules are I think uh, there was something that I read and somebody correct me if I'm wrong that he had been at the company for about four years So not a lifer but not yesterday either Yeah, no spring chicken. Well, and and Go ahead, sarah Well, I was gonna I was gonna round out this conversation on smartphone sales in india if we're ready to move on Yeah, yeah, I think I think we're good. Uh, let us know what what you think because I've ronica summed it up perfectly I think Guy knew the rules rules were broken But I don't think he really I mean granted blogs are are really good at nitpicking and finding details and say Ooh, this is a way we the gestures that we haven't seen before I don't think he felt that he was doing anything horrible No, I I I definitely got the sense that it was just sort of a fun loving thing that was ill advised. Yeah Yeah, not saying it was delicious any stretch of the imagination Thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit You can submit stories and vote on them a daily tech news show dot reddit dot com and a facebook.com slash groups Slash daily tech news show. Let's check in with chris christensen at the amateur traveler This is chris christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute If like me you happen to be a plane fan a fan of air travel or a fan of air travel technology Then you might be interested to know that One united airlines is going to have their last flight of a 747 this month Now 747s are still being made but united is going to stop Using them. They're switching to newer aircraft also from Boeing But one of the things they're doing which is interesting if you happen to be a united mileage plus member is they're going to be optioning off Hardware from Boeing 747s to mileage plus members you can buy them with your miles So if you're looking for a triple passenger seats to replicate your coach experience at home You can get those or a two by two united airlines livery panel You can even bid on getting a rudder trim indicator an airspeed indicator So if you're a airplane geek and you've got some extra united miles you might go check that out This might be your chance to get a piece of a 747. I'm chris christensen from amateur traveler Ooh, maybe I can get those coach seats. They bumped me into and didn't refund me for the fair change that one time Oh dear. Yes, please do All right, let's get to our messages of the day sarah. What do we got? All right? We've got a note from um a Reader uh, or a listener rather who wrote in and said I just wanted to get my take on the tech that I noticed when I was visiting family In india recently. So while I was there, I noticed how big ride hailing services had become in the last five years Ola totally rules there. We used it many times with great service Also, didn't see any carbon or micro max. Those are mobile phone manufacturers But I did see bbk's oppo and vivo stores along with samsung stores Most of the people I interacted with had a 5.5 inch On the diagonal or larger screens people like the larger screens And they were either samsung or oppo with one being red me also saw that the punay airport Runs a boom 2 12.04 for the flight details monitors as they had to be rebooted while I was waiting for my plane You know, I I don't post them anymore because because I don't mean to shame places But I definitely take pictures of crashed screens. I do always. Yeah, it's just fun for me It's more like it's not the fact that it happens. It's the fact that sometimes it takes so long for someone to realize that it's happened That's just I I also find it interesting that uh, you know, this this is using xp Or that one's using mac os or that one's using a bluetooth just like just like mohan here Yeah Thank you mohan for writing in feedback at daily tech news show dot com and thank you veronica belmont for persisting through the technology issues today Uh, what do you got going on to tell folks about? Oh, what's going on these days? Um, Speaking of giant emoji, uh, we just launched a new feature at groba That allows you to view all of your kudos on big screens around the office And I got to work on that project and i'm super excited about it So you can see all of your kudos just go to uh groba dot i o Install the bot and uh ping me on intercom if you need some help I now I understand why you're so into that hamper so passionate about How they appear Absolutely, uh, we'll check it out groba groba dot Dot i o yes Groba dot i o dot i o okay there Uh, hey folks. 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Yeah Yeah If it had just been me i would have been all worried but if it was veronica 2 and we seemed to have the same problem so it's like well the weirdest thing is that You guys all sounded fine to me except veronica had some bandwidth issue sounding stuff. We're like just syllables dropped here and there um But i don't know i felt like you guys never heard when i started talking so like we would yeah It was almost like there's noise cancellation Going on which i'm No, i'm not saying that's what it is It's what it sounded like to me But sarah never sounded bad roger never sounded bad coming back to me So i don't know which is weird because sarah wasn't as bad as veronica, but parts of your Speech were dropping out too, but little bits like All of you were like dropping out Yeah, i mean there were a couple times where i was like Okay, where i just didn't hear anything and i wasn't sure if it was my turn or This is this is not a brag I have the most bandwidth because i have symmetrical Right. I wonder if hangouts is for some reason today pushing a larger amount of bandwidth up and down and so sarah Feels it a little less. I feel i don't feel it at all coming towards me But veronica maybe has a little smaller upload than everybody else and that's why i noticed a little bit from her But you guys were getting it from me because I don't know It does seem to Tom you were fine for me. You're nothing. I noticed nothing at all right, and that's what i mean like It does feel like maybe it's a bandwidth related Their computer is being slow Yeah, it does get i feel slow right now, but It might be a dns issue Anyway, we probably shouldn't troubleshoot it and call attention to it right now because then Our audience is so nice that they're going to want to try to troubleshoot it too And the fact is i'm not sure there's much we can do about it at this point Titles then titles. Why is this news? Question mark is at the top slow tech newsday google's gull gold spear foam floats in midair stay tuned No cookies for you burger gate sunny ish tom calls veronica facetious um Tom likes crash screens. How do I get that discount speed test can't even test my upload speed It shows ping time download and it can't even do upload right now Oh, oh dear. Okay. Yeah, something's going on there. So there are probably multiple things going on All right, let me do my little speed test to see if I see anything Sampling emoji Google is on wino big trouble in little little trouble in big china Apple's supremacist. Oh, no. Oh, he said tom has a crash screen photo collection um I mean, it's not huge. I don't want to brag The crash along in the smithsonium, but whenever I see him when I'm traveling I I do tend to Grab a snap I used to put them on instagram, but then I got some people who were like You know, hey It's not their fault and i'm like, okay fine. I'm not trying to shame anybody I always take pictures of jalapes Jalapes you say Yeah, I've always wondered what extent you can drive a car And still have a drive, you know minus the you know, whatever condition the car is in What do we what do we like for titles y'all? Google's foam and apple's foam phone Foam, I mean, I I think the emoji is a good title I think Which which emoji the sampling emoji? No, the foam the foam one. Oh google's foam and apple's phone Yeah, google foam home foam home Foam oh, oh fear foaming out That'd be fofo. I guess now i'm hungry I'm hungry too. Why do you have to say that? No, no you have in my head This is why I got a burger last time guys. Come on think about my heart I love burgers the problem is I regret eating it an hour later See, I regret nothing once it starts. I'm all in No, I mean like I physically feel like I Lethargic and slow Like I don't eat that much red meat. So anytime I eat it I get my body has an adverse reaction I know what you mean. It's the only red meat I ever eat like I don't I don't eat steak or anything otherwise, but I do I love a cheeseburger All right, I'm gonna maybe if I drop out all of your connections will be better I doubt it, but I understand you have to go so Thank you Yeah, no, I guess thanks Veronica. Bye Veronica I'm doing my little speed test myself and just like nothing's out of the ordinary. Yeah Um, sometimes it's just the web service and I know it is everybody's impulse to want to fix everything But I have learned over the decades Sometimes you just got to let it go and just you know, if it comes back again tomorrow, then it's like, okay I was wrong. There's something else going on but well or a lingering issue with you know, the Yeah, we're doing the show but it's got all the signs of a transient issues. Just a case of the Mondays Hangouts as a case of the Mondays Oh, maybe the whole thing about uh, a super ai developing out of the worldwide web is true And it's just kind of an off day Or maybe it doesn't want us to talk about that and so it's Corrupting our stream. Well, it tried to stop you from learning the true identity of Josh Lawrence, right? See, what did that tell you? Is way too much time on its hands or maybe there is no Josh Lawrence He is actually the super intelligent computer See google just kicked me out of this hangout What I mean back in yeah But it you roger froze mid sentence And I was like right now No, no, no, it was like a minute ago, but then my my hangout just google just logged me out And then I logged back in and I don't know maybe yeah, maybe that's it web uh six eight three five eight says maybe hangouts is just recovering from last night's game It was up late watching the world series hangouts could be discussed right now right Download speeds all a mock. It's just sluggish like uh Possible I haven't really live tweeted Any not that I was really live tweeting but I tweeted a lot during that game last night Oh, you were tweeting good stuff. It was funny. That was fun. There are a lot of people, you know, I I've really kind of Fallen off the sort of live tweet reaction. You know where you just tweet like omg You know because so many people like two days later would be like, what's wrong? You know, I'm like I'm just like leading people astray. It's weird But um, but I also don't like to hashtag the game because it's like if you know what I'm talking about, you know what I'm talking about, you know You don't want to go like Too obvious But yeah, I'm with you. I couldn't help myself. I was tweeting a lot last night Veronica says her her her laptop is working perfectly Sorry me It's very like I feel I mean I had the same issues I think run because maybe we're a little bit worse, but it's just like it just sucks You know, it sucks in those situations where you're like, I don't Want this to be bad Oh, there it is beatmaster. Thanks beatsmith beatmaster A piece master that's mark singer So I don't know if you're seeing what beatmaster and I are talking about roger But he says you can actually get into the control room now during A live stream during a hangouts on air, which didn't used to be the case Oh I mean he also says he has no ferrets. He's not a beast master Were they ferrets? I guess they were ferrets You know, it's where they got the two ferrets as your um Your companions in the diablo three. Oh, is that right? That's from beast master. They collect all the gold for you Yeah, yeah, yeah And they attack but they're not as powerful. They're not as strong as the other other two That was used to crow or the ferrets one of those Yeah, okay, so be Beatmaster it says I'm offline I don't know. We'll we'll talk offline carry on About ferrets carry on my wayward son Um, when I used to live in oregon as a as a young lass Um ferrets, uh, which depending on the state are either legal pets are illegal and they were legal In oregon and we had um some neighbors that had a ferret And these were sort of like the days of wide leg jeans And a ferret ran up my mom's pants. Oh, no Yeah, the neighbor's ferret. I don't remember his name. He's really cute. But yeah, it was a whole thing Because once you get out the guy kept a couple ferrets, you know, the wideness Tapers comes less. So yeah less of a fair issue as time goes on Well ferrets are legal in california. My cousin has to I don't think they used to be though. No, they were illegal Back in like the late 70s early 80s They were because I remember the fact that there were ferret pets in oregon being like, oh, this is the thing we can do here Yeah, it's along with uh backyard chicken. Well, it depends on the my roommate sandy kept wolf hybrids and ferrets Oh, that sounds like a bad combination Wolf hybrids. Yeah, wolf samoyed hybrids Oh, I see. Okay. So like wolf dog cross dog wolf. Oh, interesting Very dark wolf of her so about four her time Um, well, you know Vogue, you know, whatever whatever works for your happy home. Yeah He kept wolf hybrids ferrets and me and our other roommate ray Just I mean, was it like the size of a german Yeah, a little bit bigger than a german shepherd actually like not not as big as a great dain Because wolf hybrids get pretty big Like almost the size of a wolf Koi dogs are the one you need to kill three of them Oh, don't tell your roommates that No, it's okay. It's a joke. It's a joke. Not funny It's funny No, but you were trying you you see this is what you do roger you lure me in with a serious question And then you change the tenor on me Make a joke about tenors Uh, I don't remember him sounding that high last year. There you go Oh, the news today is so bad Not a few Different direction Not if you still yeah, not if you're an asterisk man Analyst reports tell you what and we're just just in general, you know, it's just well, okay So I know domestically here in the u.s. We have a whole thing going on. Um, but any things Uh, and there's the kevin spacey stuff, obviously There's that Uh, well, okay, I'm glad but like, okay, but what let's let's move outside the u.s Inventor admits dismembering woman. Okay. That's not very good Danish In general me and mar not doing good kenyatta wins disputed kenya rerun Yes There's the catalonia thing Spain calls for catalon rebellion charges that one's simmering down though And pujaman is now in brussels looking for asylum I think it's on simmer, but I don't know Jack reach your creator shares thriller secrets Right exciting books by my book Rainbow paint job cheers up cobble There you go. There I found one Maybe they need a rainbow grocery co-op We have one of those nearby Here yeah, and uh over on the west side On the everything's on the west side. Yeah Telling you roger you're telling me to co-op Yeah, there's a rainbow grocery co-op On there's a rainbow. Oh, I didn't realize it was rainbow. Washington, I think Oh I'll have to check that out. There is a there's a there's a cool co-op in santa monica But it's I don't think it's affiliated with any other co-op Now the rainbow here is right near the 99 cent store that's at the split We're watching a place and watching a boulevard split. Yeah. Yeah. Oh gosh. I'll have to check that out I really miss rainbow Rainbow's a good one Such such good drugs now when I hear rainbow it makes me think of rainbow Uh, the wife character in blackish Why don't watch that show her name is rainbow And that's why I think of her Oh, who doesn't like a rainbow? They call her bow. She had hippie parents Oh crap I forgot to change the title or did I forget wait a minute. What happened here? What did I screw up? What is we really There's a curse. There's a hacks Like I swear I put the title I like took the title out, you know what you might have Copied it but not pasted I had two windows of the blog post out open at the same time So I posted them in one But not the other a gripe that is completely unrelated to this but still Makes my life miserable every sunday morning is so i'm in this football NFL fantasy league and I'm in with a couple of my buddies and then everyone else. I don't know And they're really mean It's a it's a hostile league And that's okay It's a trash talking league. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, it's just people are just they get very upset about stuff that Shouldn't matter because we're all supposed to be having fun. But okay, you know, that's how it goes So, you know, you got to set your roster and move people and drop people and the whole thing and espns UI Just for fantasy is so bad that half the time It's no better on desktop than mobile. It's just there's like a tiny little orange submit button Like way down past the fold that you have to remember to click or like none of your changes will be saved I just half the time I just forget to do that and then there's writing and everyone wants to throw me out of the league and Don't really know. I told that story just to say No, it's that not hitting the button thing. Yeah, no, I totally yeah It's it's you know, it's like I know what I have to do But it's it's set up so badly that it's i'm set up to fail There's one there's another there's one like that somewhere Where is it that I always run into Where I'm like, oh, I have to remember that it doesn't save it even though you feel it's one of those things where you press submit And then you have to press save So when I press submit my natural inclination is okay. I'm done Yeah, nothing should be set up like that anymore Right. All right Well folks, thank you for being patient with us. Thank you for supporting us and thank you for Not smoking That too Unless, you know, you just can't quit in which case we understand. We're not we're not here to judge. We'll talk to you tomorrow