 Head and seek and seek and hide. Oh, I found Roger Where'd you find it? Where'd you find him the dank crunch article image? Is he let's look wait, which chain are you referring to? Krug says it took him a moment to realize that The 1997 website that I posted was not from 90 not from 2012 Why 2012 I know that's what that's all right about his comment. I'm so used to the ISO date format. Oh, that's why okay. Yeah Standards Because it starts with a 12 because it was 12 so Interesting yeah, so Patrick and I if you are not hearing the pre-show audio We're sharing our our earliest websites with each other And they are a wonder to look at they sure are Beatmaster is asking if there is a gr. It'll it'll come. It's one of those things where it takes I'm doing simulcast off of youtube so it takes a couple minutes Apologies for the delay That website that I put in there was the web version of my zine Because I did a zine So where did the name sub brilliant in the 90s The name sub brilliant come from from Oh, um, you thought it was like it's going to be funny self-deprecating, but it's like Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. But but it was inspired by the church of the sub genius Oh, I don't know what that is. Oh, you should look that up. That is a late 80s early 90s Alternative movement It's pretty funny It's like mocking society And They uh I I started reading their stuff, you know when I would go see other zines and I thought it was pretty great So I was like, oh, I'm gonna be I didn't call myself a church and I said I'm gonna be sub brilliant Not sub jean. Is that guy still around? Yeah, um, I I see him pop up from time to time. There were there. I think I know what you're talking about reverend Stang, yeah, I think he was one of the big guys. There's a bunch of those guys still around Yep back in those days I would go to europa books in austin and leave free printouts of my zine at the uh In the front window by the other zines for people to take Did anyone take them? Yes I I remember possibly the bookstore clerks throwing them away. I don't know I remember though I remember that being the day of days when the onion was just a publication and not an actual online site no, I started sub brilliant news when I was still working at the library at the university of illinois and uh it it was I was really angry because I was like i'm not going to do church at the sub genius I'm going to do parody news. I'm going to do a fake newspaper and uh The onion like showed up on newsstands in champagne that week. It feels like it probably wasn't that week, but Like wait a minute. What? I used to wonder it's like, you know Because that that came out of the onion came out of wisconsin, right the university of wisconsin or? Yeah came out of madison madison Who would know they would build a media empire based on satire I know the fact that the onion's still around It's a pride like I tell people I just I got to I tell younger people Like I remember a time when before the onion was online only it's like, what do you mean? It's like, but you understand it used to be printed. It's like really? Yeah, they would give you like, why would anyone print? satirical news It's the same reason why what was the other one? um Was that magazine that set her magazine? I spy or something spy. Oh spy. Yeah spy Yeah, it's just called spy spy I spy with my little eye All right, shall we begin this? festivity It shall begin Excellent, we're gonna start with matt mark j Take it away mark j Quality content thrives through the support of those who benefit from its creation If you gain value from the daily tech news show consider joining others like me who provides support Learn how to help at daily tech news show dot com slash support This is the daily tech news for I think it's tuesday probably january 24th 2017 i'm top merit joining me as he does on tuesdays Mr. Patrick beige alongside patrick welcome to my upstairs studio also known as my dining room table Hey, uh, I heard you had a little bit of an incident with flooding. That's unfortunate Yeah, so not that this is the daily. What's up with tom's basement news show But the brief thing is that they they've cleared out everything in the downstairs They're gonna Leave it for today because I have to shoot some things for tech republic down there this afternoon So i'm gonna be able to do that because it's just big empty space right now And then tomorrow they're gonna put in tile And then I can move back in and so hopefully Thursday maybe friday i'll be back in the studio Excellent, but honestly, this is very cozy up here. I gotta say not minding it that much It's nice to have everything right here. I could use some improvements, but it makes me feel like i'm i'm I'm i'm fine tuning my mobile operation this way. Ah very important. Yeah well, we've got some things to talk about regarding the hyperloop and the new announcement from hyperloop transport technologies And we'll try to help you keep straight. What's hyperloop transport technologies and what's hyperloop one? We're going to talk about that in the main discussion Uh some other quick news box has updated box notes Take that evernote to view all notes in a single browser add desktop apps and they say they're working on phone apps Yeah, I'm not sure about box Uh microsoft has promoted linkedin's senior vp of infrastructure to microsoft's chief technology officer And a member of the company's senior leadership team Ah, so when they bought linkedin they bought a new senior leader and apparently he's going to stay vp of infrastructure for linkedin somehow I didn't quite get that part figured out Uh the wall street journal reports ios 10.3 will come with find my air pods a feature that'll let you Use the last reported bluetooth connection to help you narrow down the location of where they fell out of your ears ios 10.3 went out to developers on tuesday I have air pods. I have not lost them yet. I hope I don't jinx Yes, now here are some more top stories So samsung saw q4 operating profits rise 50 percent. It's highest operating profit in three years They had expected it to be a good quarter led by chip sales Not by note 7s. Obviously not by exploding batteries. We understand that's what you meant Although they did they did sell a lot of galaxy s7s So they the mobile device made division made a profit as well. Anyway samsung had a great financial quarter Especially considering the adversity that happened to them. However, they aren't buying all their chips from themselves They're buying them from other companies too the verge corroborated a report by forbs That sources say samsung has received the bulk of qualcom's new snapdragon 835 processors And as a result patrick no phone launching before the samsung galaxy s8 Is apparently going to be allowed to use the snapdragon 835 processor That would include the recently released htc u ultra the forthcoming lg g6 Which we're going to talk about in a bit and samsung has not announced a release date They say they're not going to have an announcement about the galaxy s8 at mobile world congress Although forbs and et news are both saying that they've heard sources tell them Amid april release could be coming for the next galaxy s Yeah, and so I understand this is not exactly the same thing But this is really surprising news because imagine If i don't know hp Said well, we really need a lot of those i'm gonna date myself here Pentiums and so the new pentium by intel before you know, it was the the naming convention and when we had the The 486 586 all of that No one else is going to get them because we're buying all of them. We've cornered the market on snapdragon 835s It's kind of crazy and i'm sure it's not going to last and there are other manufacturers and a bunch of things but It's it's kind of insane. I'm sure one of the reasons is that the 836 Production line is not fully ramped up yet. So there aren't enough You know, there aren't as many as there might have been for yeah I think maybe the proper way to look at it is not that they're cornering the market, of course We're just joking about that but but that samsung worked out a deal with qualcomm to say we get the first Ones to roll off the line And until we we get all the ones we want I don't want you selling any tanny anybody else We'll we're we're striking a deal to get all of them in that first round And yes, you're right obviously qualcomm is going to sell these chips to other manufacturers at some point But it is an interesting relationship because samsung is a competitor of qualcomm in making mobile chips And they're doing very well as we just found out in their financial report But samsung wants these chips. They're very good chips and they're willing You know, we don't know if they're paying or what kind of deal they're striking with qualcomm But they're willing to deal with qualcomm in ways in the past where they've had they've had trouble with qualcomm They've gotten qualcomm to agree to do this Maybe at least yeah sources It wouldn't be surprising if it's just, you know, we need them for our phones and we need to make a lot of phones So just give us everything you've got. Yeah, just we'll take it It's a smart move on samsung's part because a they know they're going to sell a lot of s8s because there is no note 7 Right, so people who just want to samsung are going to be looking at the s8 now There's a little pent up demand and they know they're going to have to do something to convince the people who don't want to samsung anymore because of the note 7 And having the only phone on the market with the qualcomm 835 snapdragon is One way they could try to do that LG will announce its next flagship I'm sorry next flagship android phone the g6 on february 26th During mobile world congress LG display has indicated the g6 will feature a 5.7 inch display With a 1829 or 2 to 1 aspect ratio The verge published an image of the top half of the phone which has a screen to bezel ratio of 90 percent so I am moving away from needing To report on every new phone that comes out obviously people are very excited about the g6 though because of the bezellessness of it Because of that that interesting aspect ratio, which you you'll see it expressed as 18 9 so that in your head you more easily compare it to 16 9 right? Oh, okay So that's a little wider than the normal aspect ratio, but when you reduce the fraction it really is just 2 to 1 I I think this is interesting I think LG Because samsung is not going to make an announcement getting you know a larger share of the attention of mobile world congress is good for it I don't And this is just a gut reaction. I don't get the sense That LG is going to turn the corner with this phone that this is the phone that's that's going to save LG If anything it it will keep it in the game Yeah, I mean They don't have the 839 835 chips so You know, what are they going to do? No, I mean it's they have their fans and LG has been I think it's the Second tier in just raw popularity, but when people look at devices the LG The late the last LG's have been really good. So I'm sure it will Sell well and that screen to to bezel ratio is pretty good. It looks nice if that's indeed the phone It's a pretty phone not gonna lie U. S president Donald Trump named FCC commissioner Ajit Pai as chairman replacing Tom Wheeler who stepped down with the inauguration on Friday Pai and fellow commissioner Michael O'Reilly sent a letter in December That the two planned to revisit the open internet guidelines as soon as possible Pai was an honors program trial attorney on the telecommunications task force in the u.s. Department of Justice's antitrust division from 1998 to 2001 He was associate general counsel for Verizon until 2003 Then he returned to government. He worked for a u.s. Senate subcommittee on oversight in the courts He worked for the department of justice in the FCC as a counselor and in april 2011 He went to work for the law firm generin block But that same year president obama nominated him to the FCC and he was sworn in as a commissioner on may 14th 2012 so He is eminently qualified as someone who you know, he's harvard educated He's been on both sides of this issue He's he's been with the companies. He's he's been on the the side of antitrust and the public But the one thing that I said in this that I know a lot of you are That's the only thing you're gonna hear is he wants to revisit those open internet guidelines And a lot of people feel that he and the other republicans on the commission Will work to overturn the net neutrality rules that Tom Wheeler put in place You know We could argue about this until the end of time I think the one thing to remember is that In the u.s. The offerings are suffering because there is not enough competition And for that's what I keep saying whenever we discuss this and for a country that prides itself for being the home of capitalism and of a free market enterprise it is Is A dismay To see that the people who should try to foster more fair and real competition Are are not doing that and I don't I mean we'll see what he does, you know, tom wheeler when he was nominated We were very very skeptical if not the head of the ncta the major lobbyist group for the telecommunications union A lot of people are pointing at ajipai and saying ah former verizon lobbyist He wasn't exactly a lobbyist However, he was certainly if he was much less of a lobbyist than tom wheeler was Yeah, and and tom wheeler was fighting for you know Freer internet and a more fair internet. So who knows but That's why I said I didn't want to get dragged into the the entire thing but if However, it works if it if if what they decide to do creates more competition than everything Could work itself out the fear is I like what you're saying patrick, which is the I have always felt that the root of the of the issue is that if we don't Have competition then companies can abuse their position to Adversely affect the open internet and wheeler's approach was to say well, let's put in rules That say you can't abuse your position to affect the open internet Ajit pai wants to remove those rules If he says and I think we won't need them because i'm going to do this to increase competition and roll out broadband in more places So you have a choice. I mean brian brushwood is living this in austin texas He happens to be in a location where he has multiple gigabit internet providers There are not very many places in the world that have that if if that's the goal Then I think that's a laudable goal, but we'll have to see Yeah, I mean What what frustrates me in these conversations is that sometimes in order to restore competition You need the government to intervene and that's where a lot of people say oh no no no no no then it It can't work And sometimes and maybe we're going to talk about this a little bit later when we're talking about Hyperloop, but sometimes yes sometimes you do need the government to step in At some point in the last few weeks amazon added the word computer to the list of wake words users of the amazon voice services get Choose from oh no. Oh no now. We can't say the word computer that trick crap That's that's where I was going to go as you know the other words are echo amazon and alexa So yeah, but you know star trek, right? I mean it's great. I love it The the problem with amazon voice services is not them adding a new wake word The problem with them is that your wake word is too easily triggered by I don't know podcasts They happen to be listening to um So I I I get it. Uh, I accidentally trigger siri from time to time I rarely ever accidentally trigger google the okay Before that really does help prevent those accidental trigger links. Hey Before kortana also seems to to help so maybe if it was just hello computer I think that would be awesome Yeah, well as we've spoken about before we wish they would do something else This is not going to solve that problem, but it's pretty funny. I get it Uh, the second us circuit court of appeals in manhattan voted four to four on whether to hear an appeal Of its decision forbidding the us government from forcing microsoft to turn over customer emails stored on servers outside the us This is the emails are stored in ireland microsoft says you need to get ireland to ask us to hand over the emails A us warrant doesn't cover it because the emails are in ireland Uh, the department of justice says yeah, but you're a us company So we give the warrant to you because we're in the us and it doesn't matter where your emails are because it's an internet and the internet's everywhere Uh, the panel of the district court, which was three judges Had made the decision that a domestic search warrant could not cover The foreign stored emails under the 1986 federal stored communications act And so the department of justice appealed that in the way you appeal with a circuit court Uh, in the united states is that you take it from the three judge panel to the full panel And the full panel only has eight people on it in the second circuit So a tie means the decision stands the dissenting judges said that they hope that a higher court Meaning obviously the supreme court Uh, would hear and overturn the decision or possibly the congress could act to change the 1986 stored communications act This is a really interesting problem. And I think a lot of people will take it You know, we'll look at it on the only from this side of the issue but if you Turn it around and you have a company that is I don't know from some south african South american country That gets ordered to Reveal information that it has stored in the us I wonder how many of the people looking at this and say yes, of course, they should give it because it's a u.s company You know, if the two weren't put together if they would say Of course, we should in the u.s The the computers that are on our soil We should give the information contained in these computers to the foreign government Right, that's yeah The problem is there are there are so many there are so few examples of the reverse the principle I get I get what the principle is but it's hard to illustrate it to people because you could say well If your information on alibaba Was asked for by china Even though it was stored by alibaba in the u.s Most people are like, yeah, but I'd never use alibaba, right? So you have to look at something like well skype although it's now part of microsoft So so that doesn't help as much but skype is located in europe And so if europe at the european union said we want to look at all your skype conversations Uh, we don't care if the the records are stored in the u.s It's it's easy It's one of those things where you're absolutely right patrick like the reverse is also true And you should be careful how you rule that obviously a u.s court decision doesn't change decisions in other countries But it does set a principle that other people can point to and yet it's hard to imagine What that reverse would look like because all of the major email providers most of the major cloud providers are Located in the united states even if they're storing their data elsewhere amazon produced menchester by the sea So the movie became the first movie from a streaming service to be nominated for an academy award for best picture Manchester received six total nominations the first oscar nomination for amazon amazon is also Distributing the salesmen in the u.s Which is iran's nominee for best foreign language picture Netflix was the first streaming company to receive an oscar nomination for the documentary the square in 2014 So this is interesting in a lot of different ways amazon Is acting as a movie studio here in the most traditional sense They are giving the 90 day exclusive window to theaters You can't watch manchester by the sea on amazon prime video yet you'll be able to they locked up all those rights obviously But they let this run through the theaters Which is why you can go to the major chain theaters and watch this movie That is different than what netflix does netflix hues very strongly to know day and date release We'll put it in theaters But you also will be able to watch it on netflix from the moment it's released now. I don't think that that necessarily affects The academy considering whether a movie is good or not But it affects the buzz because if it's not in a lot of theaters, you don't get as many people talking about it Well, how many people go to theaters really today? No, i'm getting a lot Of course, of course, I love the movies. Um, but yeah, no, I think it's it's interesting in many ways, but you know best documentary some people see it but best picture A lot of people are going to see That movie and they're going to I mean see that the movie is nominated and I think that is going to put amazon front and center for The the video services the the production And this is a bigger deal for in my opinion the industry You know the new kids in production netflix and amazon and maybe a couple of others A few years ago that would have been Unthinkable that some Books selling online retailer Right What what are you talking about the place where I order my dog snacks Is producing an oscar award-winning movie So I think it it actually does a lot of good for amazon, of course But also for netflix and for the others because it's not The youtube Even youtube isn't you know dancing cats anymore, but it sort of legitimizes the fact that they have grown out of that category and online Filmmaking is just as legitimate as any other filmmaking. I guess netflix has has proven it before and amazon after them as well but this just Confirms it with the industry as a whole you can make an argument that netflix is is Proving it better because netflix is allowing them to be seen online whereas amazon has has has not done as much to pressure theaters to give up The 90-day exclusive although theaters rightly don't want to give up that exclusive because they're worried about their bottom line We could have a whole separate argument about that I I think there is a way forward there watch cord killers for more on that discussion Which comes back from time to time, but but yeah, this is this is a big deal because When netflix first put lily hammer and house of cards out a lot of people were skeptical That they could actually threaten networks Then they started putting out documentaries and original movies and amazon started to doing the same thing and now amazon and netflix and to a certain extent hulu are actually Bigger than television networks. They're even bigger than movie studios. They're full-on studios like an mbc universal That does television and movies and other things Yet they are also entirely different because they don't have the traditional media properties like locally owned television stations and this and that But but then but they don't need them Yeah, you could argue netflix just had an amazing earnings report. It obviously doesn't need it It is a worldwide player faster than any other media entity has become a worldwide player Roughly speaking and amazon is doing this It's almost the opposite of netflix doing this in a little corner of its empire Which is ruled by cloud services and delivering the tripod that my camera is on this morning I mean, yeah, all of this is is almost old old news But the the legitimacy the recognition by the industry is milestone, I would say yeah Well to get all the tech headlines each day in less than 10 minutes You should subscribe to daily tech headlines.com and that's look at our top stories All right another story out there hyperloop transportation technologies announced. They'll open a 3000 square meter facility in toulouse, france I'm not trying to stereotype patrick by bringing this up on today's show the facility will be at the franca's all airport a former military base being redeveloped into an aerospace transportation village Htt will develop prototypes and conduct outdoor testing there Earlier this month htt announced a deal to contract or i'm sorry to connect the 140 miles between Bratislava, slavakia and burno in the Czech republic with a hyperloop train so We've heard the hyperloop one They have their contest out there where they're getting designs. They're talking with all kinds of countries Including the port of la finland late lately india They are going to do their first test this year htt says they're going to have their first test before the end of the year So hyperloop one said well our test is going to be in march Like we've got two companies taking very different approaches Competing on this if you have a hard time keeping them straight Hyperloop one is the one that does their test track in las vegas hyperloop transport technology Is the one that is building a test track in quay valley, california, but they might build a test track in toulouse now franca's al is how you pronounce franca's al franca's al yes, probably and uh, you know Stereotype me is stereotyping me as a french person. I I would be okay with it considering i'm french Um But that doesn't mean you know every single thing about every single thing that happens at france That is true. And actually I had not heard about this one specifically and I do follow the tech news for the country, of course so This was you know, but this is really interesting first of all because of what we've discussed a few times which is hyperloop is Actually happening and kind of like, uh, amazon winning or being nominated as an oscar a couple of years ago We were like, huh, that's that that's funny thing that Elon musk is okay about he's so cute, but a crazy idea. Yeah, exactly So now now they're gonna try and test it What I find really interesting is the investment of the the government in this project and I know that in the u.s The the public transportation is often regarded as Um, you know, it's not existed in certain parts of the country. It depends on where you are, of course In certain parts. I mean in on the east coast. There is certainly a lot more of it Yeah, I think we actually have quite a bit more than people realize here in la because they've been building it for a long time But but yeah, it is not as extensive as say in paris or london Right and um, and you know, when it's well done, it's Really good for your city and in this case, uh, we have a very strong network of trains and Subways, of course, if you're talking about the city itself But the the thing that I would uh reference here is our tgv our train a grand vitesse, which is Very fast trains basically and we have a very large network. I don't know exactly how much but it's uh, it's a very large network of those trains and it means that You can live anywhere. You can go from one city to another very easily etc etc all of those things that I'm sure you know I would be interested in knowing how How valuable A technology like uh hyperloop would be for The country and for the government to invest in in this case, um, the city of to lose which has a lot of history in the Aeronautics that is that the aerospace the aerospace industry is very very strong there, right? exactly um, and uh, and so they're they're looking into this because it's it's I don't know how much crossover there is from one to the other But it's actually being helped by the city and the the mayorship To to try and develop there so I what I would be as I said interested in in finding out is If it works out, what are the benefits that society, you know, the country could uh reap from a system like this Yeah, I I think that's the question that a lot of people are struggling To to answer and and both hyperloop one and hyperloop transport technologies have both given lots of answers Uh, but all of them no matter how you run the numbers All of them end up being this is a very expensive piece of transportation technology to develop and we need government help to do it They they've both taken different routes on funding Which is hyperloop one takes a lot of venture capital hyperloop transport technologies or htt Does a kind of crowdfunding collaboration approach? There's a lot of people from space x and nasa and bowing working on htt stuff either as an open source model or more often In exchange for stock options, but they're not getting a salary because they have a day job somewhere else So there's there's ways to get the funding up from the beginning But both companies no matter how they're getting up on their feet and getting their test tracks going Say if we're going to actually build these tracks, they are so expensive We are going to have to have government intervention And then the question comes well, is it worth it for a government to intervene a hyperloop one? Uh is most likely going to build its first route between dubai and abu dhabi Because those are governments who have control of large enough finances that they're willing to give that and become The first country to have that htt is working with slavakia and the check republic because those two Countries have decided that it is worth it for them to put themselves on the map and and bring tourism and industry in Because they have the hyperloop, but in both cases. I don't see a lot of people justifying this as it will in and of itself Be something that pays for itself or transforms the economy such that it will be worth all the expense I think you know what benefits do we get from hyperloop? It's the the speeds are about a thousand kilometers per hour, right? And yeah, yeah, exactly six hundred twenty miles per hour if you don't know kilometers and what we can do with uh our Very fast trains the chat room was wondering if it's the same as bullet trains. Basically. Yes. We we had a Very strong competition between the japanese and the french industries to for for a couple of decades there Each one was beating the other in speeds with those bullet trains in in france and in in japan I think now they're being used at about 300 kilometers per hour something like that So that would be about 200 miles per hour. I think that's roughly the the number but So what would we gain going uh triple Triple that can and how much it doesn't start at a thousand kilometers per hour, right? There's there's and same story for the bullet trains, I suppose But you have to work up to that Of course, but then you're talking about connecting cities Instead of just neighborhoods at a speed that could theoretically mean that you are in a city That's a couple of hundred kilometers away and you commute for example from one city to the other Yeah, no, it's it's that or cargo, right? The other a lot of people are saying it doesn't make sense for passengers It'll be too expensive for that but it would make sense for cargo because you can increase shipping times Other people like big jim and our audience have poked some holes in that saying, well, you know what the cost of it probably still Might not make it an affordable solution It depends because for cargo, you know now we have all of those networks of Services and companies that need to deliver a lot of things everyone shops online and uh, that infrastructure has been a A lot of work for amazon who they have Don wonders for this Would it make sense for a company like that to get involved in the same way they're involved in the much cheaper Trials with drone delivery and things like that, you know crazy ideas for deliveries Would they enable them to have? Centers fulfillment centers farther out from cities get the thing under the city and then you're all of a sudden, yeah, you know They're not very flexible, which is no different than trains though Like once you build a route you can't just move it because oh the fulfillment center needs to be over there now Well, yeah, you that's what that's why I mean Maybe, you know, the governments need to be involved, but maybe it could be Just like uh, some other things that have happened over the internet A very big company is thinking hey We could be benefits from this let's work on it as well, you know, I could we're just, you know Talking well and almost both these companies. Uh, htt and hyperloop one are bringing in companies to Have a stake in this uh with htt. It's more in that crowdfunding type of vein So they have vacuum maker labeled global engineering design firm acom infrastructure Company atkins a composite supplier folks like that hyperloop ones taking a more traditional venture capital investment route, but They they're all need other people to have a stake in this And it's actually surprising to me That a couple years on from elan musk having his crazy idea That both these companies are still operating, you know, hyperloop one went through a lawsuit with the former cto Hyper htt has come under a lot of criticism for not showing as much result For all of hyperloop ones legal issues They actually have done at least one test of a sled and they Say they're gonna have a a test that'll go 500 meters at 100 miles per hour by the end of march But they're both still kicking they're both still going. Yeah to be honest htt's uh Some of the the structure of htt leave me Going, you know Hmm Like the fact that they have a lot of engineers working part-time on the thing for equity while still having another job somewhere else Hey works great for linux Yeah, sure. I mean, why not again a few years ago. Had you told me? You know crowdfunding was going to be a real thing. I might have been skeptical And maybe it's gonna work out for htt, but still Still it's kind of oh So a lot of your engineers actually don't work like for the company There's somewhere else and when they have time like I could you know it could for me the image it conjure it it summons is People working on it when it's exciting and maybe at some point They're going to be less excited once it becomes a little bit more Uh tedious. Well, that's why you give stock options. So they're yes So they have a stake in making it uh finally be a success Uh, well, it's it's certainly something to watch and if anybody out there knows a little bit more about this By all means email us feedback at daily tech news show dot com Thanks to everybody who participates in our show that one way to participate is our subreddit You can submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit dot com We get responses on twitter like steven lewis aka re add on 79 Wrote random theory google is updating google voice We talked about this yesterday to integrate text or voice with google home So that you can use any phone or device you've just put google voice on whatever phone you have And then it works with google home Could be kind of makes sense Adam wrote in with a clarification. He said further to tom analysis discussion on monday. Thank you adam Android has changed their permissions on android marshmallow six and higher So that apps built for 6.0 plus and running on a phone with os 6.0 plus will ask for permissions as needed And not all at once on install. It works like ios in that way That's very good. I wonder how many apps will still be built for uh previous versions for a very long time because It doesn't have that. You know, we're we're laughing but Some apps may actually prefer Um not risking the user friction By having this happen or I guess if you have ios That's the question. I guess if you have 6.0 or later. Does it impose? that uh, If you want to put an update on your app, you're gonna have to play in this this new version, so Uh brian easton wrote as someone who has built a couple of different projects using a raspberry pi I think the most important part of a clone is compatibility. I asked folks to write in about the tinker He said both in terms of hardware and software you have to have compatibility on the hardware side It has to be able to take advantage of the existing ecosystem I should be able to buy an accessory from a shop like adafruit and use it with any pi clone If I need to use an adapter that's fine, but it needs to work The gpio pins should work the same way as the official pi software is basically the same thing I don't want to have to rebuild or recompile to make software work Optimately, it would be capable of running raspbian Uh, so he's like If you want to compete with raspberry pi you should play in the pi universe Jeff in noxville, tennessee said you solicited opinions about the newly announced single board computer from asus the tinker I'm a fairly casual maker But I own a swath of sbc's most coming from various kick starters While many of these boards outperform the raspberry pi in both specs and cost They generally lack the level of support provided by the makers of the raspberry pi itself Because many of these boards are the first produced by some newly created hardware company They often arrive months late and lacking the basic software to make them function properly asus isn't a new hardware startup though They have years of experience producing boards and the drivers necessary to make those boards work And what excites me about the new board is that I believe it has the potential to give raspberry pi some healthy competition From a well-established hardware brand that can keep up with demand and ship stable software With a comparable price and improved specs compared to the latest raspberry pi. I hope to get my hands on one Yeah, both excellent points Yeah, absolutely. Thank you guys for sharing that and finally kleb one of a million trying to figure out how to survive making art on the internet writes The difficulty in finding original sources of popular images is an very old problem Especially on platforms that offer and encourage easy resharing of media like tumblr Many artists that use it as their primary blogging system besides their own website find that their artwork is commonly repurposed And even outright stolen while it is a lot of work to track down the original artist It is almost always worthwhile I'd like to encourage all dts listeners as much as possible to track down The original source of popular images and things of that nature. It doesn't just improve the credibility at all It so gives proper attribution either rightly or wrongly to the original source I 100 percent agree But i'm not sure that you know, he's saying it is a lot of work To track down the original artist. It is always worthwhile My fear and worry is that for a lot of people it's not worthwhile. They won't think it. Yeah Well, uh and And I you know, I don't disagree with anything he's saying in here I think you're absolutely right that you should give Uh credit where credit is due the same point. This isn't infinitely copyable medium. So the way We deal with these sorts of things Is adapting Uh to to the realities of the situation. I just don't think we've we've cracked it yet. Yeah Well, thank you patrick masia as always a pleasure to talk tech with you and now you can talk tech with patrick on all kinds of Shows out there. What what else you got going on? 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Yeah All right Show by I think Hello computer is Topped for a title It's like hello world except hello computer. Yeah I mean we should give some others their due because people worked hard. There's one in there Um, what was it sure let me find it. Well, uh, I like one of there that doesn't make any sense But it made me laugh LG looking so fly like a g6. No, that's good too. The samsung snapping up the snapdragons Lost lower on it wake wake. Don't yell me And I see you uh, who submitted that I saw the chat room was even like it doesn't make any sense. It just made me laugh It does not but sometimes Sometimes sometimes you have to feel more than you think tom hyperloop more height than loop Oh, you know, well, you know, it's interesting. Uh I wonder I wonder if there was a there had to be huge industrial offsets To basin to lose right? I mean well, apparently to lose has a Uh a program to bring in startups for this location. Uh, it's one of those things where they're taking an old unused property and trying to rejuvenate it for a new purpose and hyperloop was one of the first companies to take advantage of that You know build the loop around the runway Yeah I guess you could It's just like a plane, you know, except in a tunnel It's a plane in a tunnel exactly It is a lot of because a lot of people have been saying things like I I don't know how this is going to work Aren't you going to get smashed against the walls or It's like no more than an airplane airplanes go very fast, but they they get you there slowly so that you don't get smashed But it's not in a wall tube It's not in a tube. Well, and that's the uh, well, yeah, no, it's not it's not it doesn't make any difference to getting smashed It's uh, there you go using reason again I need to think with my feelings. There's just be a lot of grinding Things go wrong Well, it's one of the where I was going with that is it's one of the problems with hyperloop is that yeah I can reach 1,000 kilometers, but it takes a while to get up to that speed. Yeah How long though Uh, there are very need to calculate the g's and the things I read one analysis that said it wouldn't even reach it wouldn't necessarily reach top speed Until partway through its route like it wouldn't only be at top speed for a few minutes In any segment because the the one they had proposed for la to san francisco Which I don't expect to ever see built would have had stops And so because you have to stop you can't get up You don't have enough time to get up to the cruising speed But then you would have an express an express one that would go with faster cruising speed for longer Two tubes. So and you have two ways. So you would need four tubes Unless you know if it's fast enough. No, but then ah Yeah, it's a lot of tubes. It's a lot of tubes. See that's the one advantage rail has is that you could I mean, I'm sure you could build one using tubes, but you can you can uh cross track You can put one train onto another track at a maybe they could do that too They could it probably end up looking like the pneumatic tubes Things of the tube All right, I'm gonna go guys Thank you very much. Took you soon. Bye chat room. Love you Wait, what were you going with it? Uh, hello computer. Hello computer. Yeah Hello computer mile Oh, yeah, the problem with irony I was watching that it was really good with david foster wallace Oh, wait a minute. I've been watching videos on the sorry on the dts thing I'll explain what those showed up That's fine, but it was really interesting. He he uh, it's he's a philosopher Um Who grew up I think in the late 80s early 90s basically my my cohort Uh, but he has like this whole thing about how corrosive Excessive irony like irony without like, you know just for irony's sake. That's the generation x mode of being Or what was the not deglas copeland the guy who made the parody book called generation ec Oh, I don't know the that one. It was really funny. It's just basically pointing out all the issues he has like Lemon says I have noticed a lot of your musical influences from the 90s, which is hilarious to me because I didn't really listen to music in the 90s You didn't listen to lit No I only know that coming around the train saw because justin was playing it during the election coverage I never actually listened to that song back in when it was well, I mean the biggest 90s bands would be like nirvana pearl jam rem Even though rem and pearl gem did get their start like in the 80s, but yeah No, the uh, the whole time I lived in austin. I would go see local bands most of the time That were called local we're in a local band. So stay please please stay Well, oh man, those were the days the headliners would go on at 1 a.m Anywhere you remember that I remember that I remembered I don't know if they still do this because I they're fewer and fewer bowling alleys Although what's cool is half a mile away is a roller rink Um, which I need to go to eventually with my kid, uh, but uh rock and bowl remember that Rock and bowl. It was a thing that a lot of bowling alleys did. So basically around midnight Uh, that you would have to pay one price and you could bowl free for like three hours And well, they would do that Didn't like the one of the bowling alleys down at pacifica still do that Oh, you mean the c c something c bowl. Yeah, c bowl. Maybe I remember before it got turned into amoeba record store There's a bowling alley in the hate next to next door to the mcdonalds Um, and that's why I have a bowling alley, uh, not too far from here called bolero Which is kind of that rock and roll idea it bolero Used to be just a regular amc bowling alley and then this company out of texas came in and bought it Well, actually, I think it's a brooklyn investor who started the chain of texas brooklyn Like well, it wasn't just limited to san francisco like a modesto the modesto bowl would do that too The music would be different, but basically it was same. It would be loud rock music Yeah, uh lord lights and free, you know, you would pay a flat rate to bowl for like three hours So you pay one fee Pretty fun, especially if you could play with a bunch of drunk guys and gals Uh I think if you looked at my actual playlist Of music you would not see as much 90s stuff I'm gonna guess I don't even need that p.m. Don me The 90s stuff you might find would be um Did I say p.m. Don me? No, someone did He says some time ago. You said do a guest p.m. Don me Uh Just just because I know p.m. Don is I don't know I mean, I mean, I know of bands. I remember like kitchens of distinction. I remember the mission uk. There's like a bunch of bands that rolled around the 90s They kind of stuck her like uh luscious or luscious Luscious Jackson You don't remember that band they did that song lady fingers. I don't I mean that sounds familiar But I don't remember how any other songs went Um never heard of nirvana. I heard I did I added nirvana at WPGU when in uh 1992 Because a guy from toronto happened to be visiting he had worked at WPGU when he was in college And he he's like you got to check out this band out of seattle. They're amazing Seattle it's the new epicenter of music You got to check it out and then a bunch of movies got made they're like singles and they're just like what no That just that's kicked off the whole thing then sleep is in seattle and there was a couple other seattle movies Well, yeah, there was uh, you've got mail and sleep. Oh, I haven't seen that one That are well, you've seen sleepless in seattle, right? Yeah, so pretty much seen you've got. Oh, oh geez really? Yeah, it's almost exactly the same plot cake. Oh Oh, I love cake and I like cake There's some really bad. There was a bands. I really assily detested like mud honey Um, there's so many crappy bands. There's so many crappy bands that roll on maybe I don't use enough other era Musical illusions because I'm worried people won't get them You know what it is. It's because you're in college in the 90s, right? Or the 80s. No, I was in college 88 through 92 I was in college from 92 to 96 no from 92 to 98 because I goofed off a little bit. I should have been working Instead I was working. So there's a lot of 90s bands that what are you gonna do with your life 80s reference? um Like There's a lot of 80s to 80s 90s. Yeah, it's interesting I guess I do make my 90s reference that I would have asked about this from San Jose Actually a good 90s band that didn't Well, was it maybe 90s 2000s was um The donna's I don't really like because they were from Cupertino All right Hey, I think I know a few donna's songs they um Take it off. I think it's one of their bigger big ones Good charlotte. There's a band. I hate it. Oh Jesus. Oh really? Wow Yeah, I couldn't because they looked so bandwagony They looked like if you they looked like if you wanted to make a band and then you sent them through hot topic It just it was just very to me. It was very corporate formulaic band. That's why I didn't like him Oh, cool. Which which video Bio cow. I don't know what you're responding to bio cow said, uh, my wife Said his wife worked at one of donna's on one of the donna videos All right, recent activity. I played No, that's It's not really recent activity Let me see what's on my playlist music library I have a main playlist that I call playlist two Just distinguish it from playlist one See I used to like it's itunes used to give you so much information in the in the universe um, so I've got uh Patty page jimmy world cat stephen cerebrals jimmy world wow Daryl anger mama cast bob mold regina specter arlo guthrie warren zevon badfinger hank williams Yeah, at least half of those are my new teeny jsevret bellamy brothers. They might be giants So we do the do you listen to any of the sugar stuff or just bob mold stuff? Do you uh, I only have the bob mold on this playlist Okay, actually I forgot about sugar though. I did like sugar back sugar and husker do I think husker do I used to play them on the radio All right, I believe we have a working post I'm actually double check this Thank you all for watching or listening as a reminder Not that I I don't think anybody's really Minding the new setup, but it'll be the new setup again Tomorrow and then maybe so get set up actually it flatters your face. Oh, thank you very much Uh, didn't wear the jacket today either because I just forgot to put it on so that wasn't a style choice that just happened Thanks everybody. Talk to you tomorrow