 Now see the thing about video now if I started a little bit ahead of the show is the people watching the new Apple TV app Get us in the middle of sentences and it seems like they missed a part of it. So I'm excited. I asked for the new Apple TV for Have you been good? No, not really No, but they'd better give it to me anyway. Yeah, we held a pay. Hey tonight We're gonna go see a hockey game. I'd mentioned that. Oh, right. Yeah Lakey or the lake Erie monsters Lake Erie monsters. It's a great name. That's awesome It's really good as the Austin ice bats There's well, yeah, this is a I don't even know if they have age But it's a it's a it's a farm team for the Columbus blue jackets I'm not the penguins. We used to be for the penguins does that Seem backwards to anyone else that Cleveland has a farm team for Columbus. I know I know I know I know We should I wish I wish we had a pro hockey team, but we just we take what we can get Like freezes over sometimes, right? I mean they could just play right there. They could yeah, it would be very dangerous But it's cool though. I love I love the name of of our team because it's the monsters obviously It's just cool. It's cool. What's the logo look like? It's like this creature because there actually was like there are tales about this monster that lived in Lake Erie So it's based on that and it's just like this monster. That's like swimming through water. Oh, yeah It's got like one eye up. Yeah. Yeah, it's cool It's a pretty cool one. I want a shirt now Yeah, given given some of the other logos for somebody I got says Lake Erie monsters Cleveland Right Yeah, it's exciting So we're taking the whole crew minus nor has to work But I'm taking the youngest who has never been to any sort of sporting event at all. So it'll be very interesting to see He said I said is that gonna be scary for you because I showed him a video what it looks like He's like that gonna be scary. It's like I'm gonna be scared of the of the trombone like what the trombone You know the the air horn You know got it. I thought maybe Zamboni was the oh no no He calls it the trombone the air horn is the trombone like a trombone. Yes The trombone machine that cleans up all the air horns in between periods I'm scared of those things too. Yeah, they're scary. Oh breaking news. I know I just got that email And I was what I was just looking to see if it was in the show. Oh, it's a bit. It's it's bad news What oh, is yours different? Yes a shooting in Paris at a restaurant No, mine is YouTube loves jump. Is that in there? That's a breaking news No, the YouTube now supports VR video jump. Oh, no, that is not in there. Okay Did you want it to be? That doesn't sound like breaking news No, I know Remembering the right thing Google makes jump, right? Yes. Okay. It seems like that happened a while back. Okay Am I all right? YouTube like a press release. Oh, yeah I Was teaching all morning. I don't know. All right. No, I think this was I think this was a while back Yeah, I think we covered it on DT and s. Okay. I'm sure we did I can't help me 28 No, but that's there was something more recent than that With the punches all right First results what I look this up. Oh, wait, we have no Darren. We can't do a show He left Yeah, November 5th. All right, I don't know why they're only sending it to you now I know it's weird. It's probably because I'm like far that far down on their email. Let's go. You have 4.6. Yeah, I know It took you that long to get that email. They're gonna be all right. I'm going away start a show All right, Darren, you ready? Yeah, I am here we go. This is a this is a one-time use only Bumper that we're gonna start with but if you get the joke, it's hilarious Hi, I'm John Stossel You should support Tom Merritt's daily tech news show by going to daily tech news show comm slash support The government says it's the best daily tech news podcast on the internet Go ahead Tom and give me a break not actually John Stossel This is the daily tech news for Friday the 13th November 13th 2015. I'm Tom Merritt joining me today Darren kitchen founder of hack 5.org at h8k 5.org Rg, how are you Darren kitchen? Oh, man hacking up a storm? It has just been like a whirlwind for the last I guess that where that storm came from. Yes Yes, there were packets flying everywhere. There's things on 315 megahertz 915 anyway I just I normally save the plug to the end of show but hack 5.org I'm so proud of the shows that we've been putting out for the last couple weeks Shannon and I collaborating on some some Wireless hacking that isn't Wi-Fi or Bluetooth good stuff But what I'm most excited about is seeing some illustrations today because I've been seeing some good stuff on The Instagrams from our friend Len Len Peralta Who by the way? Killed it on the two-year anniversary Daily tech news show Star Wars Force Awakens special poster available at Len brought to store.com. Yeah, how are you sir? I'm doing well. I'm doing really good. It feels like it hasn't happened. I haven't been here for a while But I guess that's true. It's been what like at least a week two weeks Well, you were here virtually last week. Yeah, we were at blizzcon But you did an illustration. You just weren't with us live. Yeah, did you miss the week before that? No, no I was here. I was here. Yeah, but it's yeah I thank you so much about the the Force Awakens poster. It's a very cool Todd Whitehead were both like stoked We'll talk a little more about that the other poster at the end of the show, but let's get to the headline stop Let's let's let's do that Google said in their online security blog today that the company is developing in-product warnings for Gmail users that will display When they receive a message through a non encrypted connection saying hey Just be warned. This is not an encrypted email. These warnings will begin to roll out in the coming months I imagine I'm going to get a lot of them. Although Google also released details from a joint Release details from a joint study with the University of Michigan and University of Illinois showing 94 percent of inbound emails to Gmail have some sort of authentication and 33 to 61 percent use encryption see Like something happened a couple years ago, and then all of a sudden people start using better Cryptography tools. It's interesting how that works. It's almost like the world became a slightly better place I Originally read the story and got all excited thinking that Google was gonna put like a big red bar across every message and say this Isn't encrypted with PGP or anything, but no they're talking about your connection to Gmail not the fact that all of your stuff is still plain text. We still get some ways to go Yeah, but I was stunned by the amount of encryption that they found, right? now they talk about some DNS servers publishing bogus routing information in the study too, so it's not all rosy, but the number of actual Inbound encryption to Gmail rose from 33 percent to 61 percent between December 2013 and October 2015 I did not expect it to be that high. You're right there. It went from one encrypted email to three No, it's 61 percent of the emails emails. What's the percent of no, that's not of all emails. That's of encrypted emails Inbound encryption for numb the number of encrypted emails that Gmail received from non Gmail senders increased from 33 percent to 61 percent the way I read that is 61 percent of Emails talking about non Gmail senders are now encrypted. Sorry. They used to be 33 percent I'm thinking of actually like people using open PGP and things of that nature is Encryption not just that they use TLS with their SMTP server. Sorry. We're already rabbit hole on the first story Yeah, yeah, no, it's not it's not I I PGP'd my own email It's that the end-to-end system worked and the end-to-end system is part of the bigger picture so yeah, yeah, and that's why you your your Note about this is not that Gmail encrypted your email It's that your connection to send the email was encrypted is is important here And that's exactly what we're talking about but even so even so Kind of kind of impressed by that. I mean it's not I want to see more like Google It actually has a plug-in called a end-to-end. That's an encryption means Extension for Chrome, but I haven't heard a whole lot about lately. They just kind of open sourced it And I hope not in the same way that BOS was I'm sorry not BOS, but The HP one I'm blanking anyway. I'm blanking on that one too. Somebody in IRC will let me know Web OS. Yes, so web OS the palm right something about that in regards to Gmail as well soon Microsoft announced office insider a preview program for office 365 similar to Windows Insider For office 365 subscribers who want to test coming changes to office apps right now It's just for office 2016 for Windows, but Microsoft says a Mac version is coming soon Microsoft also announced its two new monthly feature updates both for PowerPoint this time around Designer aims to help you make better presentations using machine learning and image Recognition to give you design ideas. They even asked them is this like clippy and they're like well clippy was mostly telling you Things you didn't want to know. Hopefully this one tell you things you do want to know The other is Morph which animates changes between two slides You say I've got this you know picture here in this text And I wanted to have it like animate into this picture over here Especially helpful if you've got one image getting bigger or smaller words getting bigger or smaller music video Yes, exactly. Oh the one that they show in the example is a solar system, right? So you can have the solar system in one state and then in another and the planets will move It's go from one slide. I don't know the last time society had access to this technology through video toasters We were we had to endure a lot of bad music videos. So so folks in PowerPoint presentation meetings Be prepared feature arrives for Windows subscribers in two to four weeks and other platforms in the coming months Beats music will shut down November 30th according to an updated beats music support page all existing subscriptions will be canceled You're done November 30th is it users can still move their picks playlist and preferences to Apple music Before then and you still get a three month free trial for Apple music if you do that Apple also promised Sonos support is coming soon to Apple music because that's one thing that the beats subscribers still have that Apple music doesn't Get your beats on over to Apple music Amazon is launching a nationwide packaged grocery delivery service in Britain called Amazon pantry Amazon Prime members Which I think it's like 79 pounds a year to be an Amazon Prime member that gets you the shipping and all of that Can order up to 20 kilograms in a box of dry goods for two pounds 99 for the first box and 99 pence for each additional 20 kilogram box and by dry goods And we mean packaged things that includes sodas and canned foods tin foods I you might say Amazon pantry is available already in Japan Germany and the United States I remember we actually covered this story a couple years ago You and I Tom when it launched in the United States. Did you dry it? Nope? I totally did And I must say it's it's fun in that you can like, you know It's a flat rate on shipping if you try to fill the box as best you can But unfortunately they missed the opportunity to turn it into an online Tetris game But the most unfortunate thing is that it's mainly just dry goods. So yeah Fresh is the service that gets you the frozen foods and the fresh vegetables and all of that They're not talking about whether they're gonna bring that to Britain or not Maybe one of the crucial developers of IBM's system 360 series of mainframes gene Omdahl died Tuesday in Palo Alto, California at the age of 92 Then when the system was announced at a shareholders meeting on April 7th 1964 IBM CEO Thomas Watson, Jr. Called Omdahl the father of system 360 He also started the Omdahl corporation in 1970 He being Omdahl of course and formulated what became known as Omdahl's law in parallel computing to predict the theoretical Maximum improvement in speed using multiple processors. He definitely had a big effect on Computing and there's still system 360 code set out there in the wild today. Yeah, and you know what at DEF CON 23 There was some really interesting hacking on mainframes research And and you know, so it's just it's interesting that stuff was gonna live on forever And I should probably just point out here that if you want to see one in person You would see all the good stuff and you find yourself in Seattle You have to go to living computer museum org Go to the living computer museum. It is amazing one of the big things about system 360 is is that it was modular and could run The same code Oh, really? I mean something that we take advantage we take for granted today that well if I buy another PC I'll be able to take Windows and you know put my software on it, right? The big deal is system 360 is well you can buy a small version and and make your software for it And you would make the software I assume and then if you buy a bigger version later You can still take that software and run it on the bigger version Which was the case before that? That was it. That was one of its huge advantages out of the gate You mean so when I buy new hardware, I don't have to code all new software from the ground up I want a rat hole about like Windows and NT and the N10 architecture and portability and x86, but I'm going to just stop it right here. Yeah The register reports the key who 360 researcher Gwanggong showed off a Chrome for Android exploit at the mobile Ponda Own event at PAP SEC Tokyo full details were not disclosed But the exploit targets the JavaScript v8 engine we know that and it's a single clean exploit doesn't have to stack Vulnerabilities gong demonstrated the exploit on a project Phi nexus 6 a Google organizer on site received the bug and PAP SEC Organizer Dragos Ruiyo says it's likely gong will get a bug bounty from Google for it Yeah, this is pretty good. You know a pretty good deal a big deal really It's a remote exploit and that's kind of rare and that's you know, thankfully the details are kind of Sparse so hopefully this gets patched before anything gets out in the wild I think the bigger story here is that Apple Microsoft Google HP and trend micro have all pulled out of Ponda Own which is sad because that was such a great contest and I hope that they're still incentive without all of that money HP was citing the Wassner agreement which is sad It's actually the same reason why trend micro pulled out because it just makes things all sorts of complicated for security researchers and The the bug bounty that you're gonna get from Google is a far cry from the like, you know Nearly quarter of a million you could previously get I think Android security research program or rewards program offers like $2,000 for a critical bug so you know, oh well, yeah, and and the Zdi or I'm sorry the tipping point investment from HP complicates thing as well What what is the deal with the Wassner arrangement? Do you know why that is causing so much havoc here? Yes, it is terrible on all sorts of levels and It will it basically prevents security research in the way that we know it It has all sorts of unintended consequences and in so much so that it basically puts corporations in control of world economics Overriding what well, how does it do that? And I don't know the specifics on the spot right now I just know the last time I delved into that rabbit hole I got very angry and wanted to just put my head under a pillow and pretend it didn't exist So it's it's a an export controls thing that prevents you from sharing particular kinds of code Discoveries or something is that what is that? Yeah? We could really geek out about this at another time, but it's just it's bad. It's a trade is what I'm saying It's a trade deal, but it also puts restrictions on Quote-unquote hacking tools and things of that nature You know it overreaching consequences that could even implement it could even hamper open source So it's just terrible in all sense of the world And and when did when did this thing come about actually sorry that? This was this kind of flew under the radar last year and it was really the big scary thing at It's called in a right here because everybody's North America Australia most of Europe and Russia a couple countries in South America and Africa are right It's an agreement that was done in secret that even has provisions that would prevent the governments of these nations from being able to impede some of its trade agreements and it prevents Legitimate security research in a lot of ways it was it was a very scary big topic at Defcon this year We're a lot of vendors or just like I don't know how we're going to be able to proceed in this and so thankfully there Is this is the first visible fallout on research in particular is them pulling out of sponsorship of this sort of thing Yeah, it's it's just a big scary thing that we all just hope goes away Starfury Zeta wanted us to mention that the Google self-driving car got pulled over by Mountain View police for driving too slow Google cars have a capped speed of 25 miles per hour according to the Google self-driving car projects Google plus page and according to Mountain View Police an officer noticed traffic backing up behind a slow-moving car in the eastbound lane in a 35 mile per hour zone pulled it over to inquire and educate the operator about impeding traffic, but No ticket was issued. I Wonder if they can make the self-driving car run at, you know regular speeds I mean is it just yes or is it just the frequency at which it's scanning isn't enough to be able to react According to what I mean I am reading into what they said they say they keep it at 25 miles per hour because that's friendlier It doesn't people don't feel like it's whizzing through their neighborhood and unsafe speed if it's alone They did it sounds like they do it for public relations and it backfired in this I just feel terrible for anybody having to sit in the driver's seat in one of those Google self-driving cars Getting passed over the double yellow lines because you know what's going to happen with people flip them off and everything and the guys like I'm so sorry. I'm just here to grab the wheel in case anything. I'm not in control of this, you know Well, this is the answer to my grandpa who always said 35 miles per hour is a limit. It's not a requirement Yeah, well there's okay same thing with the freeway, but there's a minimum on the freeway of 40 in well And also going 25 miles per hour and a 35 mile per hour zone is not against the law Unless you are unduly impeding traffic at which point you should either speed up or pull over to the side of the road and let The faster traffic by they should just take the beta testing to Berkeley where this is the norm Oh, is that no, did you really do that? They couldn't do the beta testing because too many barriers Uh-huh SP Sheridan Spidey ours technical article noting the FCC has clarified its Wi-Fi router rules so that they no longer appear to ban third-party Firmware like DDWRT we talked about this previously on the show updated guidelines Now say much more reasonably that if the device permits third-party software It must describe to the FCC how it ensures that RF operation stays within authorized parameters So all the FCC has said they're ever concerned with is that these devices don't overpower other signals in its area and broadcast out of Parameters the FCC also has closed the comment period for new rules for device manufacturers and says it heard loud and clear that the new Rules should not encourage manufacturers to prevent mods The FCC has yet to finalize rules and they even said they're willing to listen to more feedback here a lot of folks responding on this ours technical article Darren said Really the issue is with the Broadcom chip makers and the Qualcomm chip makers to control the amount of power that they could push out Right they're saying we're not preventing you from loading third-party software But you have to prove that that third-party software then can't interface with the radio in such a way to do things that are outside of its regulatory domain It's really tricky to do in software It has to the prevention has to happen at a lower level Because there's no way to guarantee the third-party software is going to respect whatever the regulatory domain that's burned into the Brahm of the Broadcom or Qualcomm chip is is actually doing so hopefully this is actually going to lead to better Socks because this needs to be done on the hardware level which is Complicated when it comes to economics, but you know, hopefully we get a solution that doesn't impede open source and third-party software Yeah Finally India's ride-sharing service ola is making its in-app payment service ola money a standalone app according to tech crunch It's available on Android coming to iOS and Windows later The new app can make peer-to-peer payments and recharge your mobile phone credits launch partners include hotel network Oh, yo rooms music service savin and food delivery service tiny owl Ola hopes to add bill paying and online and offline purchasing to the app soon And they're even taking questions about you know Would you spin this out as another company because payment services are so hot in India right now and they're like Well, we don't have any plans for that but you know, hey if it makes enough money We can all make more money spinning it out Wouldn't rule it out So there you go making some payments but payments man financial tech payments all that stuff's hot right now Thanks to everybody who submitted stories on our subreddit at daily tech news show dot reddit comm keep in coming Keep the votes coming join the five thousand people in there doing it for us and helping us make the show better every day That is a look at the headlines Now Michael Lee from intercept You might recognize the name if you follow the Edward Snowden story closely He helped put Snowden in touch with Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras two fateful years ago He set up some of those encrypted channels Interviewed Snowden last month for an article in intercept titled Edward Snowden explains how to reclaim your privacy and Darren this This is really interesting. It's basically an Edward Snowden How-to article on his favorite picks for protecting your privacy I must say as a you know as a hacker This was when all of this stuff started breaking the first thing you wanted to know is like okay Well, if this guy can successfully siphon this information from the NSA and and make it work to make the world a better place How does he do it and so finally the the tell-all kind of geeky story so good one of my favorite quotes right off the bat Copy down a lot of these that I loved was that Snowden says you don't have to live a paranoid life off the grid in Hiding in the woods in Montana Which I say have you been to Missila? He says he says from hiding in his hotel room in Russia You have to do it in Russia because your passport will get canceled on the way to Latin America No, I think what he is saying though and in all seriousness is you just need to be aware and Armor yourself as long as service providers are serving or I'm sorry He said there were a few days when people kept. No, no, that's not it. Where's the where's the thing? Oh, oh And this might be Michael Lee saying this and but he's they're saying protect yourself You don't have to hide in the woods, but it your your privacy is important armor yourself and your data should be invisible It should be atmospheric It should be something that happens painlessly and effortlessly where you're basically Anything you share is because you decided to share it not because it just happened to be left out in the open I will that that's to there's two things at play in what you're talking about And I think that a lot has happened on both sides of this coin since the original Snowden revelations on the first hand You have the society aspect of like oh, maybe I shouldn't be just sharing Everything about my life on Facebook and I'm looking at certain people saying stop that Because I don't want to know and then there's the other side of the coin, which is all of the good tools for Using privacy enhancing in enhancing software are very difficult to use and both of those things have gotten better through education We've gotten tools that are way more seamless to use things like from open whisper systems from Moxie Marlin spike We've seen tech secure blow up and and actually become the default messenger in a lot of operating systems including androids What's that version of that cyanogen mod and now it's called signal which incorporates both tech secure and red phone That's a great example of a seamless encryption technology that kind of takes is that that has been the result of this kind of stuff So it's it's just good to see both of those happening now One of the things they do in this article is break things down between What are the what are the apps and methods that everyday people should use just for what they call operational security? Keepin keepin my stuff private by default as much as possible and one of the things that heavy-duty privacy necessity Folks need the the folks who are whistleblowers the folks who are trying to keep bad actors from finding out what they are up to or people living in Repressive regimes for the everyday operational security and they say look this isn't just for criminals This is for somebody. Maybe they're an abusive relationship. Maybe they're dealing with stalkers Maybe they just want to keep their parents out of their business is one of the things they mentioned in the intercept article And one of those things is signal as you mentioned a really easy way to encrypt your phone calls in your texts Another one is something you'll hear Darren say all the time in myself, too Which is encrypt your disk encrypt all your things and then password manager that I know you and Shannon have recommended Which is key pass X. Mm-hmm. Yeah, Shannon's a big fan of password managers I seem to disagree, but I've got my own system that works for my head Johnny mnemonic style But yeah, all three of those are things that you can employ Seamlessly and actually they'll make your life a lot easier Especially password managers because then you don't have to think about you know What password am I going to use of this site and choose something stupid and crappy you can just generate one and save it? So yeah, all of those are just things that will become transparent and then there are just things Behaviorally that you should do turn on two-factor authentication and use it Selective sharing only and when we touched on this just a minute ago Don't tell everything about yourself unless you really need to make sure you're okay with the information being collected about you Use things like privacy badger is not mentioned in this article But I use that or HTTPS everywhere which I also use which was was mentioned in this article and Snowden says turn on ad block software as long as service providers are serving ads with active content that require the use of JavaScript to display that have some kind of active content like flash embedded in it Anything that can be a vector for attack in your web browser. You should be actively trying to block these He's not saying block it because ads are annoying or I have a problem with the monetization plans of news organizations He says this is a vector for attacking you by bad actors. You shouldn't let it run, right? So that's why we've been talking about the two sides of Technology and behavior or social the one that we haven't touched on of course is the political side and I thought one of the best quotes from this article of from Snowden talking in regards to political reform Which is happening to varying degrees slowly is I really love this quote technology is perhaps the quickest and most Promising means through which we can respond to the greatest violations of human rights in a manner that is not dependent on every single Legislative body on the planet to reform itself at the same time Yeah Basically taking it into your own hands if the more of us that do it the more secure More the more information will be and we'll have to come up with other ways of pursuing Criminals and and stopping them which a lot of people in this is an argument for another day A lot of people feel that might be irresponsible But other people feel like it's the only way we really catch them now that a lot of these privacy invasion tools don't end up Being beneficial either way you having control over it still exists And these are the things that you can use to take control of your privacy He even says folks should download tour browser tour messenger and use them when needed He's like everyday use you may not need to browse and tour all the time But let's say you're looking up something that you feel is sensitive And you wouldn't want someone to find out Use the tour browser. You should have it at the hand in case you needed it And of course when you start talking about whistleblowers and heavy-duty use and think and folks who really do need to hide all of their actions It's an essential there to right you have to acknowledge that we're actually living in a post crypto war war You know we may easily forget that in the 90s There was you know a big clash between governments and cyberpunks trying to create strong crypto systems And there was you know ridiculous Restrictions and export control and things of that nature a lot of which because we've won these wars because we just used to the Technology because we stood up with our plastic forks and the cafeteria that we were able to Create better systems for all of us to use it's why we have HTTPS and it's why we have encrypted email and things like signal nowadays and It's just it made the world better because we just developed and used the technology So I mentioned privacy privacy badgers from the EFF. It's an extension that looks at cookies It doesn't block all cookies It says is this cookie tracking you across multiple websites that aren't its own domain then I'm going to block it And so it's not an ad blocker It's basically saying if you if a cookie is existing just to make sure you're logged in that's fine If a cookie is tracking you you probably don't want it. There's also HTTPS everywhere. There's also no script Are there any other tools that weren't mentioned in this article Darren that you would want to say hey And make sure to throw this out there Tails is a really good live distribution which actually was mentioned in this article right it wasn't you know I think it needs a little bit more attention because there's a lot of wrong ways to use The onion router or tour the tour browser is really convenient But sometimes it can be just used really terribly if you're super concerned if you're looking to you know If you're a future whistleblower you may want to consider just going down to local big box store buying a $200 net book in cash Never connecting it to your home Wi-Fi Installing tails on it ensuring that the version of tails that you downloaded is actually a legitimate copy And it's something really nice It's it's a live you it's a live Linux distribution that runs off of the USB stick and Glenn Greenwald even used this exact Technology that when he was first getting set up to communicate with Snowden, so I highly recommend that The other one that I used to always recommend was malevalope Which is an extension for Chrome that allows you to do PGP more easily with webmail specifically Gmail although it's really interesting and timely that just yesterday there was a Blog post by Bruce Schneier that I think warrants some attention in this context He says that he's recently and this is his quote Bruce Schneier says I have recently come to the conclusion that email is fundamentally Unsecureable the things that we want out of email and the email system are not readily compatible with encryption I advise people who want communication securely not to use email, but instead to use encrypted Messaging clients like OTR and signal. Yeah So basically think of email as a public conversation, you know, not everybody's gonna be hearing it But it can be overheard. It's a postcard. Yeah. Yeah, exactly Somebody can see it if it's sit down in the open and and that's kind of the way email is Interesting point there and also to add it on to tails Edward Snowden is apparently very excited about cube OS Qubee Which creates virtual machines to wrap around individual pieces of software so that even if that piece of software is Compromised in the course of its use it won't affect anything else because it's contained in its own virtual machine and then you can get rid of it Yeah, this is not by the way There's a really cool technology However, I would say it's not ready for the mainstream in the same way that signal or the tour messenger are Which is why I still just recommend just spending the 200 bucks in cash on a netbook and installing tails But otherwise, yes, it's a really cool operating system if you're geeky if you're familiar with the command line in Linux This is basically Sandboxing on crack because every it's a hypervisor operating system that just has a windowing system and every single Application that you then run in it runs in its own virtual machine So you could have a VM for just logging into work and a VM for logging into your personal stuff and they'll never see each other Yeah Well, folks you definitely should check out this article at the intercept with your ad block off The intercept.com will have a link of the show notes as well our pick of the day actually ties into this whole thing from Davulu Grimart Had liked to share a wonderful Mac and Windows app, which is so great It will blow your grandpa socks off the thick wool ones. I'm wearing thick wool socks right now Davulu just saying For some background as a civil citizen of planet Earth I use a password manager and keep it secured with two-factor authentication But having the authentication on the phone is not an option for me since I do not carry a phone No weirdo thingy here due to the nature of my work. I never had a mobile phone. So what do we do now? Thank goodness there are people like Colin Mackey and Carlos de Boer ver verne Whom each maintain a Google authentication app that works on the desktop Colin is the creator of win-off which you can get at win-off.com and Carlos keeps the Apple folks happy By maintaining the Mac app OTP manager, which you can search for in the store And get it there both of them give you two-factor authentication through the Google authenticator But on your desktop This is a beautiful example of how true security doesn't rely on secrecy and that open source only makes it better because the the authentication protocol is not designed behind some sort of, you know, spooky veil and Enables people to actually create additional clients was just again furthers like makes it easier for us to use and just becomes transparent So this is awesome. Yeah, because it's math So knowing how to create the numbers doesn't mean you can steal the numbers. Oh my god I just thought of a terrible terrible like science fiction story where in math is is illegal and only for Governments to use. Oh, you mean the rules that Clinton proposed in the 90s Right We live through that Send your picks to feedback at Daily Tech news show comm folks you can find my picks at Daily Tech news show comm slash picks a Few messages before we get out of here booty or booty He told me how to pronounce it and then I forgot I should have left it in there Had a horrible time upgrading Windows 10 and wrote turn on DTNS on the way home last night And I hear that the latest update to Windows 10 would have allowed me to use my Windows 8 key to directly activate Windows 10 WTF I was on the phone with Microsoft support not two weeks ago and nobody mentioned that I could have just waited I know this update has been in the pipeline for a while So why wasn't customer support told about this so they could inform customers? Yeah, the windows insider preview had this I'm guessing two weeks ago. It had it So maybe put the customer support people on Windows and when Windows Windows insider preview or maybe that would confuse them I don't know but This was a big deal for people to be able to say oh now I can activate with my key Directly. I don't have to roll back reinstall then upgrade. So that's night We also talked about that very large Windows iPad Pro And rich from lovely Cleveland says look, I have no idea why anyone would want the new Mac book The iPad Pro is lighter cheaper and faster and has a sharper display And if you want a powerful machine, there's the Mac book Pro It's a little chunkier, but it's vastly more capable machine than the Mac book Maybe there's a vast market of mobility addictive professionals that can't bear another pound in their bag that will keep buying Mac books But that seems like a tiny slice of the pie Alas while the Mac book as designed is an impressive feat of engineering the anemic core processor is a huge bottleneck Is there a use case he challenged us us all is there a use case? I'm not thinking of that leverages the singular advantage of the Mac book being able to run OS 10 in such a svelte body Basically just people that need absolute mobility and a full version of Safari He's asking Darren's not answer. I got nothing You know what it's for people who want easy multitasking, but don't want to spend all the money on a Mac book pro Because they don't need all that power and storage W. Scott is one wrote I've always wondered if there should be a third operating system to go with OS 10 and iOS That's a cross between the two we had it with hardware when the iPad came out It was a cross between an iPhone and a Mac book. I think Apple needs to do what they did with hardware and do it again with software So something that is part iOS part OS 10 I don't know man. That sounds like a hard thing to make without making it confusing for people Yeah, I think ultimately one it will either stay existing how it is or there will be emerging between the two and Then Yaru in rainy Malaysia decided to take the Surface Pro on a recent vacation instead of the iPad One reason was he was able to transfer photos to it much easier the Surface Pro He needed a full OS he said for that It's not that the iPad as a device is useless far from it There are many things an iPad can do that excels over windows or any other full desktop OS It's just that as an OS that is closed and has many limitations Including easy access to a general file system a full desktop OS will also be able to fulfill possible Unexpected needs that I may come across whereas the iPad would not So there you go. He chose the Surface Pro Thanks everybody for writing in with your Reactions there were more than just these but these were some representative samples of what we got from yesterday's show And thank you Darren kitchen for joining us man. Good conversation. Love talking about that stuff Yeah, me too. And so many rabbit holes that we could go down with this and I just I love living in this renaissance of of technology and encryption and just empowering Humans and just the way that the internet can better human rights for all. It's just beautiful So I you know, I'm just really thankful for that If you want to learn all sorts of interesting stuff terrible segue about radio hacking by the way Shannon and I have been doing a pretty awesome series using some new tools So we've got a episode that just came out today on brute force attacks using using RF And then we also do some stuff on hacking key fobs for cars talking about Rolling codes and we get into hacking doorbells and wireless remotes and replay attacks And anyway lots of good stuff the last five episodes have been a lot of fun doing RF hacking Excellent find out how that stuff works. Go check out hack 5 h a k 5 o r g Len Peralta or is it? Yeah, I don't know who is this masked man. Yes, it's uh, you know, I wanted to do something I about Snowden about it on and anonymous browsing and This is just a I don't know. I don't know. It's just a I guess you call it a performance piece I don't know what you call it. It's just a very interesting image featuring a gentleman holding up a sign that says reclaim anonymity Hope I spelled that right. It looks like he did. Yeah He's wearing a little mask and of course I worked in the cubes because you talked about cubes And of course tails because there's a little tail The tails operating system does not always but sometimes has a rat tail come out of the back. Yeah, exactly So yeah, so this is just an interesting little image I I you know, I didn't want to redo what I had done with Snowden a couple years a couple months ago But but you know, it's just something interesting if you want to check it out You should go over to the Len Peralta store.com Len Peralta store.com Which also because I haven't been here for a little bit. We mentioned it at the top show or Darren did The Force Awakens poster we did for year two for DTNS The naming rights are all sold out, but you can get your own poster There's a limited amount of posters available right now at Len Peralta store.com right on the front page And if you order through this online store, you get a free copy of Tom and my graphic novel 10 state They go along with it. It's a great little holiday package and I think everybody Yeah, everybody should get their own copy of 10 state if you haven't already got what really divides America Can we overcome our differences? Find out you wrote that Tom you wrote that you wrote 10 state Yeah, it's it's it's pretty cool And I just want also one more plug if with the holidays coming up I know it's a little bit early, but I'm doing custom Christmas cards for everybody If you want though, they're that's right on the front pages of the store as well Check that out over at Len Peralta store.com Thank you patrons for making this show possible Daily tech news show comm slash support by the way those little tags that we use at the top of the show I'm I'm changing up some URLs and I really need them to say daily tech news show comm slash support So that they so everything is always going to the right place So if you've done one for us before but it had patreon in there You could do one again It would be it would be great just send it to its feedback at daily tech news show Dot-com we've got a we've got about nine or actually eight of these That say either a URL that that that works or says just search for daily tech news show on patreon But really we want daily tech news show comm slash support in there But thank you patrons for making this show possible We've got episode zero of day six with Peter Wells Coming up to be recorded tonight So if you want to get a sample of what we're shooting for with our next milestone goal Keep an eye out for that patrons and then we'll post a link to it on the blog for everybody else After that as well. 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It was like the coloring and sort of like the editorial choices And it was just awesome and the people may not have seen this on like the purchase thing But it cracks me up the the credits like the credits are just great Like they just make me happy it turned out real it turned out really really yeah Yeah, and the other neat thing too, which is going to be coming up is I actually documented the whole process so Literally from blank blank canvas to the final part. I didn't put the credits in that was the very last thing I didn't put But the whole process of coloring and changing and everything else and you can kind of see the whole process And I'm going to make that available Probably right near the end of the year I'm so excited. Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's kind of what I did last year for the in this together print So this one's really cool. Yeah, it was something like five hours or something. Yeah of work So I got such a chill from the year three DTNS coming soon. Yeah, isn't that cool? Yeah Pretty excited amazing right three years. That's gonna be nuts. I can't even Well did great job on that and I think everybody should go buy it Sell it out in your store. Yeah, please do So titles You know by the way, I'm gonna knock off because I gotta go to the hockey game. Go monsters. Go monsters All right. Good seeing everybody. We'll see you next week Take care. Bye. Bye. All right while while I look at the titles I'm also going to do another speed test because now I'm mad. Okay, uh Ready so we have follow the encryption rabbit Privacy for dummies by Snowden, which I really like I like that one, too I'm probably gonna say probably not with the Google cars matter because of Adminishing the seriousness of the other things that matter Two plus two equals jail. I like that one. I like that one That's the name of the sci-fi book that Darren and I do Actually, I've got I've got the beginnings of it, but we'll wait and prove titles first Oh, I do like Dark Redeemer the features are coming from insider the office There's a lot going on there The beat goes off Yeah, oh My god, Dark Redeemer is too long, but I love Amazon gets shipy takes off his pantries Takes a ship on the floor Wow Pretty amazing See Daily traffic in California show. Yeah traffic on the ones. Yeah Lot of mighty morphin power jokes I'm pretty settled. Yeah, what are you going for privacy for dummies? Yeah, yeah, me too. All right Sometimes yeah, all right, let's ping the server and see what's going on here with a speed test So Tom I was I was thinking maybe you might be able to help me out with the rest of this Kind of abstract if you will or maybe this is the trailer for the movie that will meet made from the book We'll collaborate on in a world where mathematics are outlawed one man dares to teach himself elliptic partial differential equations Okay, it's back over the rainbow table and find out where it leads It's one good places that could go Okay, 114 114 download speed. I'll take it It was just been a momentary freak out I should be in a world where mathematics are outlawed one man. I mean a man. I mean, I don't know how many men Some number of men because I'm not allowed to know what a number is In a world where mathematics is outlawed one well How do I use a number without breaking the law two hours of Matt Damon doing algebra? I'm gonna math the sh out of it. I Think that would be I'm gonna math the sh out of this Just mask me That title well only two more podcasts to go Tom. Yeah So tired I'm gonna have to punch myself with a face before card geek. All right, you're doing all of them with me today Yes Realize that yep That's all right. It will make the end of the day that much sweeter Next week by the way So next week next week is crazy Next week is crazy I might have to become the Does work in the other times producer for that week because it is Matt's movie premiere on Monday. Oh, wow No, maybe not Monday. Maybe it's Wednesday. I don't even know I should look these things up So his TV movie is premiering and I think I just realized that I'm not in the chat room, which is terrible Does he have tired I am At the 18th Wednesday Wednesday is a movie premiere nine the 19th is my birthday. Is it a movie about math being illegal? No, it's a movie about a kid trying to get his driver's license. All right, and then There's some oh Friday is birthday dinner. I think because Matt will be working and then Saturday is a secret thing for a friend So, yeah, so that's my week next week So be prepared for that other Jenny. Oh Tom, how do you feel about this in a distant future humans live in a computer aided society and have forgotten the fundamentals of mathematics? Including even the rudimentary skill of counting Son good you Yes, it was published in 1958 in Worlds of science fiction Isaac Asimov and I have to give massive credits to Ian on Irish and for pointing that out In a world where Isaac Asimov has already written the story you were hoping to write Again rip him off because it was the 50s and no way and you can't copyright a title In a world where all the good science fiction was written 50 years ago You can just rip it off willy-nilly and put Fair use this Isaac You did do oh, that's right. I mentioned that show you did probe Probe oh Gosh now I gotta write cranky headlines. Okay. Hold on. Here we go This is the day that never ends I don't know how you do it Tom. I really don't I don't either I Mean how many shows a week did you do now Tom only? Eight oh Minimum that's reasonable. Yeah. Yeah in five days. I like to book you for Wednesday, right? Yeah, actually because sort of laser it was Wednesdays, but we moved it back to Tuesdays. No, okay. We had to move it for Veronica's dogs agility class What? And then we moved it back. I Really like bodega, so I'm not gonna say anything, but that's a good dog I should have a podcast where I just interview all of our podcaster friends and have crypto interventions with them Oh my god, could you tell me about your so tell me about your day-to-day like yeah, what are you using what apps? No, that's no good. No, seriously. That would be amazing I would love to have someone just take me through and actually make me secure And I kind of want an air-gapped computer and like I want I want things I want to be secure How about Darren kitchen security for muggles? Yes That's a really good idea. That's a really good idea. It would be so valuable and then the muggles Here's the thing. It's why it works Is it you take a sort of muggle like me who understands obviously that things? I mean I'm decent, right? I got decent stuff But who understands the need for more but does not know how to go about it and more importantly Does not know what to trust right? Amongst the wash of things promising security and you train up a muggle so that they're at least a squib Right, they're like they're never gonna be a magician But at least they live in the world of magicians and can talk to them And then those people go turn around and propagate that information More muggles and say just go to this website and watch this show Can I can we do that? Yeah, okay. I'll do it. Okay, cuz I really want to be you're on episode one. All right I want to be safer cool It's all signal and yeah, I'm asking you how you text your mom That's fine. My mom doesn't text My mom is texts grudgingly and then my dad texts with too many fingers and like you get all these extra characters So do they end up becoming those screenshots on on the Yeah, yeah, although I wish my mom texted she emails This is the other problem that parents all email and why don't you email be back? I was like cuz I don't do that. Yeah This is how you shut down the really long emails from all your aunts and uncles is you tell them Here's my public key Yeah Yeah Those there are many things like that that I would really like to get our Christmas newsletter. Yeah. No, it wasn't PGP You can get the I didn't get the 14 page Christmas newsletter. Yeah But it had a picture of us riding a reindeer in the snow and flash Yeah, I don't know enough that plug it. I've never heard of that. I've never heard of A lot of fun cool, maybe I'll develop that Speaking of other developments, I can't wait to be off the air with you guys I'm I'm uploading a soundcloud right now. Cool Darren if you have to go you can go I've just got like, you know, actually we're doing a spring cleaning. That's what's This is a sandwich But it's fall I thought that maybe Darren was just in solidarity with Peter Wells Our day six and was doing Australian spring cleaning. I've moved. That's exactly what I'm on a different hemisphere Tom Exactly stand. You're like Tom. You said Remembrance Day was in North America and Europe and you left out Australia screw that I'm gonna call it spring now I Know we're having a garage sale in about a week and we're getting rid of a ton of hack five gear Like really good stuff that we just don't use I don't that suddenly just made me like imagine you with massive degaussers No, seriously. Well, okay. We're de-banning But now there's like, you know servers and video switchers and all course. Yeah, yeah So if you're looking to build a podcast studio in the Bay Area come to my warehouse and take all of my hammy-downs And then we're given the proceeds to the FF so oh, that's great. That's great. Yeah, better Man, I'm telling you privacy badger is the best thing ever you don't need an ad How we can do a I love the internet edition of some of our products so that proceeds of those go towards the FF Yeah, gotta talk to me a CPA again on that one because I think that we could probably do a lot of good with that Yeah, I would I would be in for that I show a picture of John Gilmore the EFF guy on every in every new class And I don't tell them who he is and I just show the picture There's a picture of him that everybody uses with the beard that's growing forever Right and is that his name? Am I just so tired that I'm blanking. It's John Gilmore, right? John Perry Barlow. No, let me see So John Gilmore the guy who was at Sun Microsystems And helped found found EFF and I just show the picture of him because he looks like Like he's got the beard of destiny and And it's so much fun because they're all like what the who that I'm like Oh, this is one of the people fighting for your right to be great It's always fun. Oh look at this. I'm getting I'm getting cool things in slack Privacy for you slacking off. I'm slacking on Slack has given that word meaning I didn't put the YouTube link in the MP3 link place today So I think I'm doing good. Oh Wait, you put whoa, you put the YouTube link in the ID three tag of the MP3 No, no, I put I just have an a href with a blank next to the letters MP3 And really or this week I put YouTube's link in there It didn't have any effect because it's just a YouTube link, you know, we always put on hack 5 and our metadata We put eef 5204d6 a why do you do that? I don't know. It just keeps occurring every on every show a eef 5204d6 a it's the strangest thing It's been happening for like 10 years now But I'm sure the truth is out there. I am looking at a particularly amazing book cover and back right now Okay, I am looking at a particularly amazing thing from our friends over at Universal I Am looking at the podcast And so that means I'm stopping the broadcast. Goodbye everybody