 This is Mike with the 21 report behind the scenes in Orlando, Florida for the 21 convention 2017 10 year anniversary address I'm sitting alongside soccer tease one of our alumni speakers sock. Welcome to the show I'd like to be in here with you. It's great to have you once again Sock so before we go into some questions about your talk that you gave the first thing on Thursday morning Yeah, yeah lead off. Yeah, I was wondering if you give us a brief overview of your talk And why you wanted to talk about it. Yeah, it's gonna kind of sound interesting The the basic premises is something that had bothered me Very very significantly and kind of the the the crux of my concern kind of going through kind of the pickup community Wanted to get better with women relationships and it was always kind of relationship centric Which was made me an abnormality amongst that kind of crowd not not that I didn't you know Have a wide variety of partners and then actually throw yourself at it If you're gonna be single be fucking single But at the same time I knew kind of destination wise. I really didn't kind of want to have have a long-term relationship I wanted you know, the notion of family but for a variety of different reasons either early childhood experiences or Probably as significantly I had a partner break up with me because they said I would be in unfit parent And in not so much that I wouldn't be a good father. I wouldn't be a good spouse You know and there were faithful issues and the reality was it resonated with me because it was true That at that time I didn't have command myself my presence The things I really wanted and my values and choices were not congruent So as I'm going through this I started valuing it and it's really hard not to observe the greater cultural condition the Context I mean an architect context to me is where you start. I'm very contextually based And so I knew I was gonna have to create this within an environment that appeared to be really kind of fraught with risk You know you hear about the divorce stats and everything else and okay. It's a 50-50 shot technically with realities I know I can improve my skills and improve my odds reduce my risk But as you start getting more and more into it the risk became more and more apparent The dangers become more more real and significant And so what you're ultimately faced with as I kind of got you know upwards in age and having you know choices of Not having relationships or more in particularly Having long-term relationships that were not structured from the beginning to last or with women who were definitely not mother mother potential You know I kind of joke that you know other than me and a large guy I've got a taste for fucking candy and I don't mean like sugars I mean I mean like women with half-sleeved tattoos doubled pierced nipples and daddy's like oh god You know not necessarily the wisest of fucking choices, you know definitely not one you bring home to mom Definitely not one you want to probably spread the gene pool with although on a biomechanical level this chick's triggering it for me sexually Doesn't mean she's good emotional stock And so I'm running with that and realizing okay Is it me is it them is it culture everything else and you kind of get in a position in which you are you know We talk about women hitting a wall men have a Darwinian wall as well. We just can't push it that far There's sperm decay. There's associations with not only that The demographics in which I I felt more at ease You know I say these more or it was more beneficial to me. There was this a nick of significant age gap Women my age were just neurotic They just any number of tremendous amount of baggage and the other thing is they were absolutely being out Outcompeted by their young younger sisters, you know, they're the younger brother And so it's you you're naturally going to be inclined to do that if you start looking at some of the research There's a greater degree with a greater Differentiation between age groups so being an older guy I was high at risk and then choosing somebody 20 20 years plus younger than me really put the odds of my children being Abnormal having birth defects, you know any number of issues and that became an issue And so you sit down say maybe this is nature's way of telling you not and I was kind of forced to add a biological wall to say Do you go big town and cut the bullshit and stop deluding yourself about relationships and wanting what you you've clearly passed up or the boats Miss or saying hey, you've got to take the shit series and start really turning into it And so by the time Anthony Got to hold me again because we had known each other previously I had been talking about relationships I was really turning into those sort of things But hadn't quite finished that the threat assessment associated with this culture and what to do with it and a lot of my talks Dealt with that so you can see kind of a progression and I was talking about it So this was absolutely returned back to the beginning for me And so the the big central tenant is dealing with biological imperatives And so I take this notion of cave We have a biological imperative and that knowing that and that was a struggle is if I can make all these rational arguments and build A wall between me and that fact it doesn't change our biological nature And so I take the concept right from that and say okay What what is a biological imperative? How does it impact us? You know deal with sexual criteria? You know so the triggers you know and how do you how do you trigger somebody biologically formed imperative? And then how do you manage that? One I've got a trigger attraction with the woman and then I have to manage manage that and men and women have Similar biological selection criteria they differ where we are different, you know because we're sex-based creatures And to understand that and then how to manage that and then once you have kind of a full understanding of how to manage it But that doesn't tell you how do you structure? The the relationship, you know who leads who doesn't what what's the dynamic of that? So basically I would say three quarters of the speech is really just a biology lesson Dealing with the sexual marketplace and our sexual nature and then I kind of stop and this is where you know The things I originally started with I still feel is terribly terribly important is what takes us beyond biology? What makes this really and take a look at it and I cover a little bit of sexual mating strategies You know you can sit down and say we have three different brains, you know essentially we have a hindbrain We have a midbrain and you know a forebrain, you know this, you know cerebral cortex Each of those command different biological imperatives The lizard brain just literally wants you to fuck spray and skedaddle just no investment whatsoever spread your seed That's a lizard brain that now unfortunately, that's the earliest most primitive And so you'll revert to that at a minimum, you know your default training is gonna be that your mammalian brain is compelling Us to actually have partners to meet you know with a partner to raise children Okay, but our mammalian brain was not necessarily built or designed for extended long-term lifelong monogamy You know, okay, there was now monogamous aspects up to it, but it wasn't structured for that Our cerebral cortex is when you take all this rationality now when we start being terribly rational You start seeing the advantages of monogamy long-term commitment Long-term investment in childcare and child and family raising and development and so you you sit down and say you can take those Are things so you know if you're taking them a million strategy you want to pair bond You don't have that but it's not necessarily gonna last you're not gonna put a whole lot of focus in or or you know Training or development if you take a human approach really look at it analyze it You can turn and prepare yourself and then one of the things about being human is we have the ability to see threats come And from a distance and if you know these things are coming you know, there's gonna be difficulties here Planning in advance takes the threat away It allows you the ability to scale and the confidence to do it and so I talked about a lot about that in General we know that the this convention was taken a fairly hard turn to the red pill Yeah, and so I kind of you know essentially said okay It's something I know believe in have been writing about for a while It's not something new to me at all And so and the one issue is why I'm not really involved in the red pill community because I don't think they've taken it to the full limit They've kind of gone down what they call, you know, they use that the matrix as an example And the matrix, you know red pill blue pill But they also talk about going down this rabbit hole and in essence to going down the rabbit hole It's literally having the ground underneath you're moving you kind of fall your free fall and you go in this very surreal world It's filled with you know kind of really strange and you know interesting characters and some are imposing and some are threatening others are More amicable, but it's a very sort of world The red pill seems to go down the rabbit hole and they take pride in going down the rabbit, but they don't come out the other side Yeah, and that's the other part of the your obligation is your job is to go through the rabbit hole I in having given this speech. I don't you know you're in a state of flow I don't know if I conveyed it properly or at all, you know, that's a part that frees me is that The transformation from teenagers or children to adulthood you have to kind of go through this process Accepting your biological imperative and then addressing come to terms taken on that mantle and addressing it And I would say we have a biological imperative to actually have children, you know Your biological imperative is not to fuck your that's just a stepping stone to get us there Your biological imperative is to have children so the species survives and reproduces. I would say also And I know I said this is that in addition to that your humanity compels you to raise them So I would sit on say of the three strategies you can do work tilling, but I would take that off the table It's such a low quality bar. You can do it I don't I wouldn't find that fulfilling the million is going to be nice But we want better results than that because that's what we're getting. We're getting murdered Taking a human human approach. It's gonna be incredibly difficult. It's gonna be incredibly hard But they're terribly self-interested rewards. These are your children our children are here to replace us You speak kind of a running joke why you know, you know why I didn't want kids are all here to replace us Yeah, but there's a reality to it and it's also a vehicle in which I can invest for my future I know through my child my daughter and by the way I have a child because of this convention and Anthony and the work that I've done here Give me the confidence to know I can have a part the partner I wanted and needed and raise a child and then I know that I can look at my child's eyes No doubt that I'm absolutely the best individual that beat the best father I can be for and that I'm not gonna Let this little girl down and I will actually make sure she transcends my life So that literally as I slide into the grave, I will have no regrets and not necessarily no no regrets I'm not gonna be clawing at life because I unfinished business You know, I'm gonna go into life and no you know saying I've done everything I possibly can do and I'm willing to slip into that So last night sock you were generous and kind enough to actually have about 120 guys come out to your house for the party Yes, yes, and everyone had a great times a lot of great conversations going on. How was that for you and being able to host? Party like that Hits me at several levels It's kind of an interesting thing. One of the former speakers Greg Swan entered as major the disc concept, you know driven incandescent Cautious and social and it's kind of his take on it and I I'm very driven and I tend to be fairly you know Really really strong incandescent, which means I kind of like the limelight I like to show yeah, which is really kind of odd because I'm actually an introvert which is a dichotomy into itself As a professional I'm an architect and he kind of made the analysis is you guys are worse than rock stars Everybody knows rock stars like this limelight He goes but the rock star when it shows and he's off the stage and he was an architect You're still fucking performing And I and it's really really true and then you know another knowledge is the videos that you know like this You know every time somebody watches the video contact and Anthony used that in the speech where he said literally said you know We have 500 views a day on any of socks videos It's like 500 bobbleheads of you know sock give an orientation and I just thought of that and like there it is So in many ways the house was absolutely designed to do that, you know, obviously, it's a vehicle for a living I believe that it's a machine for a living. That's clearly expressed I like artwork so the house is designed to showcase art and you know be a gallery There's absolutely no doubt about that It's also designed as a sanctuary So, you know, I the default philosophical approach to it was the notion of Sacred and profane you know public space being profane, you know personal ownership and private property being sacred And I laid the house that way out, you know, it's two divisions of the house It's clearly divided all the public areas as a profane areas all open and then everything that's cloistered together is Is a sacred space and then there's the division between servant and serve But it had a philosophy there and I was able to actually utilize my value of Having people come in and so there's kind of a running joke that there's a lot of drywall in the house because the ceilings are 14 feet Hi, all the walls are stark white and it's intentional so that all the elements of my life are the things that give color to the house Almost like a canvas My life is thrown against the canvas of white and that's the artwork to me That the people I love the things I cherish So last night I had the ability to do an absolute Jackson Pollock. I was able to take The 21 convention some amazing people who made themselves vulnerable by Acknowledging through introspection that hey, I need I'm interested in some of this. There's some things I'd like to learn I'm willing to open myself up to it. They put themselves at risk financially by saying hey, I'm willing to pay for this and Then in particular attend to an event in which I know that they're they're gonna be if if people who oppose us Would have no problem with naming shaming and destroying their lives and that's a very real threat in our society So you have a tremendous number of people putting themselves at risk and being vulnerable And we always talk about don't listen to what people say watch what they do This was a way for me to acknowledge in the same language and you'll hear me talk about speak the language That's being spoken. You know if you're dealing with biological selection criteria speak back biologically. I can't take a biological Imperative for attraction and then communicate back rationally Relationship equity and that's where a lot of guys get hurt And you'll hear a lot of blog posts written about that a tremendous amount of red pill You have to speak back biologically So if the language is being trust vulnerability Acceptance and that's what's being offered I have to speak back in that language And so it was only natural that I show that respect and validation by returning the gesture and kind And so I opened up my house my entire family my entire life And I tried to make everybody feel at home and not just at home in a comfort factor I wanted people to express their you know like Jack Donovan said their nobility. Yeah, and to sit down in here Roar of conversations barely be able to move or navigate around to and I apologize to anybody who actually went that I didn't speak to That clearly happened And in a way that was awesome that you know, yeah, you just couldn't talk to everybody like that There was just too much life there What I didn't do and I joke about I probably should have it would have demeaned and diminished The event was I could have sold tickets to women to this event We say there was a hundred hundred hundred plus people there is easy easy. Yeah easy now It's wasn't just a hundred people. It was a hundred introspective high quality males who are putting themselves first who are honoring themselves by by looking to improve themselves to make their lives and Relationships better. Okay, we're talking high quality individuals that will make a difference in their lives and anybody who's in their lives And I I had a house full available, you know And and I'd say that a lot of them are in relationships and are committed to making a better summer already fathers and taking serious pride in it But it was a source of pride to be able to fill the house to that degree that was literally overflowing. Well, thanks again So I'm pleased for absolutely that on that was everyone had a really good time So kind of before we wrap this up If people want to learn more about you more about your work your blog Where's the best place they can go I I have a blog that I need to read I'd say resurrected only because I haven't been posting because I've been doing so much with the convention That will change in their very near future. So you can find me more of me at manningupsmart.com Again, it's manning up smart, you know, because I believe if you're gonna man up particularly in this environment You need to do it smartly Taking the humanist approach to it. And so you can find me there We'll be doing other other events and other videos and probably a lot more content coming out in the very near future Awesome. So with that you can see Socrates talk first on 21university.com or by clicking the link underneath this video sock. Thank you once again This has been Mike with Socrates signing off for the 21 report. Thank you