 Seattle has become the first city outside of India to ban any sort of caste-based discrimination and a lot of people are like Oh, that sounds good But what does this all mean? Yeah, this is going viral right now Like we said guy Seattle the first place outside of India the entire world to ban this Andrew It's been banned in India for 70 years I'm telling you a lot of people were debating this law not just the law itself, but some people are like Why do we even have this in America? I don't know what's going on So we got to get into some of the reactions and then some of our takeaways guys So make sure you like subscribe and turn on your notifications Andrew Let's get into it Andrew What is going on with the caste system because I didn't know that this was an issue in America, right? Well, I guess apparently and I guess through reading the articles There's a lot of immigrants coming over and particularly maybe in the tech space where the tech industry hires a lot of people from India And maybe people get promoted and then people of the higher cast get promoted and they're in charge And then I guess there are some cases or reports of people discriminating against people like employees from a lower cast Right and that is the whole concept behind the law, right? Right, right And the whole law is supposed to prevent this but it doesn't just apply to the tech space But I would suspect that that's where it kind of comes from and there's just so much argument about this from within the Indian community But also outside of the Indian community, but for like different reasons, right? Yeah, so we had to talk to some brown friends about this and they were different different types of brown friends By the way, so I got an opinion and overall from our friends who are more Americanized They're like, you know, this is good. It's progressive But like if you didn't bring this up to me I would have never heard about this because I don't even think about the caste system Like I don't even know what caste I am and I'm like, yeah, that's true I think most Indian Americans don't think about this kind of stuff And I guess other people were bringing up though that because they need so many tech workers brain workers People who can code working software that are straight from India You might need to legislate it or at least that's the concept behind the law because they're more bringing the old world dynamics Because they just came from there versus coming from like 30 years ago And by the way, a lot of immigrants do still bring over like motherland dynamics from the motherland Across the ocean to America just because you cross the ocean and immigrate here doesn't mean you leave everything behind By the way, not saying we agree or disagree with the concept of the law just like trying to explain it Moving on to number two someone was like man classic woke Seattle Fixing tiny niche issues that impact only a tiny tiny portion of the community instead of the real issues like crime Homelessness drug use messed up highways. Yeah, this is classic Seattle Just not fixing anything that everybody needs but just doing this You know, uh, I'm not gonna like vouch and say like the Seattle I agree with everything they do but now for as far as this law I think that one it was an easy sell because it's an anti discrimination law And if you're bringing this up in Seattle, who in Seattle is gonna deny this? Well, yeah, it's very like I guess liberal a lot of white people, right that probably Are like, yeah, I'll sign it. Yeah, but obviously it was pushed forward by an Indian councilwoman Yeah, I mean, I think maybe passing this law was fairly easy. It didn't take up too many resources I do not think that passing this law took all the resources away from trying to solve the drug use But do you think it is performative because a lot of people are accusing it of being performative in the sense of like They're like, how are they even going to legislate this like it's going to be too murky and convoluted on I do think as far as enforcing it just even having the law is going to scare people from discriminating against other people So maybe it does make me go. Hey guys, I'm not saying these little wins are not wins You know, it's good to put out little fires But what about these gigantic fires isn't because the gigantic fires are just too complicated to navigate So you focus on like the media blowing up. I could be a media thing too It's not necessarily them just like blowing it up their wins to make it look like they're doing a good job Maybe the media is like, oh, yeah, this story looks like it's definitely gonna get a lot of hits But if it's this easy to scare people out of discriminating against each other, I guess do it. Yeah So why even uh recreate these old world's rules, man I thought all the immigrants used to come to America and assimilate now You're telling me they're not even assimilating anymore where we've got to put together laws to legislate Like the laws like they have back in the old world. I don't like this type of immigration anymore All right. I mean I even want to talk about like Chinese immigrants because we know a lot of Chinese immigrants And I would say that you know, depending on the province You're from certain Chinese people will kind of discriminate against you a little bit They'll say stereotypes. Yeah in a low key way For example, if your family owns property in Beijing or Shanghai and you meet somebody from like Hebei province For sure, you're gonna think maybe you're cooler than them. Right, right. I don't I don't know how to what extent I think different people feel it at different levels But because if you're like a rich fob in a Ferrari from Hebei Well, yeah, you just only have a Lexus and I have a Ferrari. So even though you're from Beijing I am from Hebei. How can you say that Beijing is better than Hebei? Yeah, I mean, I know Chinese immigrants that Do and don't care about this kind of stuff, you know I mean, I mean it even happened with white people right with like irish and italians coming to new york in like I want to say the late 1800s. That's what the whole movie games of new york was about Yeah, dude, they didn't even like jfk because he was the irish catholic and he was the president of the united states So discrimination will not really stop Right to be honest, but I could totally understand like why people are like Yeah, man, why do we even need laws about something? I don't even know about now I got to think about laws of stuff. I'm not even aware of I don't know. Yeah, I can see both sides Moving on later. Some people said well, you know, there's real need for these laws guys So whether you understand them or not because it's not a part of your culture We're just trying to protect people from their world. Ah, man, maybe this was just something that I wasn't supposed to care about Man, I wish I never read or watched this video Got it now. I got to think about this stuff, but I wish I wish I just didn't think about it Yeah, I mean to be fair I think that laws have always been hyper localized like it wouldn't surprise me if salt lake city had some like Mormon-based laws that don't exist in other cities where there's not High-popular, you know what I mean like they're not dealing with this situation as much Yeah, I don't think every law was meant for us to understand to be honest and because it doesn't concern a lot of us You know the people who are outside of these circles are not because I was like 1% Indian I believe in actually America is about less than 1% Indian So theoretically and even of that 1% only like certain amount of people even pay attention to this You know what I mean like it's kind of like a fraction of a fraction. Sure, but I will say this Once your population in America like Hindus are like estimated to be like 2.5 million in America and then like South Asians as a total are like 4.5. There there's millions of these people that may or may not abide by these dynamics So, um, the last group was like man, this law is terrible And this opinion was obviously from a variety of Indian people say some people said man It's just going to be used to settle personal beefs Nobody even knows how the caste system works in America So how are they going to legislate it when it's so convoluted and multi layered now? It's not even clear cut. Sometimes it's just tribalism between Casts different cast it's not even about who's higher and who's lower anymore This this whole thing is a mess. Just keep this out of America. Yeah, and so yeah, I had a friend These are these are opinions from Indians. Yeah. Yeah, an Indian friend was just like man like Honestly, I wish people would just stop thinking about the caste system So now you're making people think about it more and then they got to know what cast they are I don't even know what caste I am, you know So I guess there's always going to be criticism of every law, but um, overall I guess if it's to stop discrimination that sounds like a good thing to do and you should do it for sure And I just think with any laws, man It's always like so many pros and cons like for example Let's say for example, there's a group that's being discriminated against that's wrong Good that they have a law against them But then maybe that law could be jiu-jitsu and used against other people unfairly So then that's like I guess the convoluted mess of it. All right. Yeah, it's possible David, what are the overall takeaways because we want you guys to leave it in the comments down below what you think Because we really don't know to be honest. We are complete outsiders looking in like I said I think most people in America their knowledge of the caste system is zero out of 10 My understanding of it is like 1.5 out of 10 And maybe even the people who pass this law do not have a 10 out of 10 understanding I mean, here's my thing Discrimination is not gonna end. I mean you can post up laws. I think it helps I think it scares people and I think it does punish people who do it and that you can prove That do it but it's not going to actually stop like personal discrimination. I mean, it's kind of weird like in England Andrew if you have like a corkney accent People are going to judge you for having a corkney. They're going to be like, I don't really trust this fella Or if you talk from Birmingham, london, you know, we just had the city outside of london They got like a bad accent. You know, whatever you're from Birmingham, alabama. Yeah, where you like Nate uh the comedian Nate is always talking about a man in louisiana everybody thinks when you talk like this You're stew, but you can be the smartest guy in the whole entire world. You go to new york people gonna think you're dumb Yeah, I mean think about if you got this voice and you're trying to make it in like uh new york You know the finance world or somehow in in the tech industry people not gonna take In china if you tell people oh, yeah, yeah, have a uh a hedge fund, but i'm from guay joe Some people are gonna be like Like we don't know if we're gonna trust a guay joe guy or like people in south korea, right? If you don't have the sole accent you have like a really rural like countryside accent So then you maybe have to change your accent. I don't know. It's tough to say man Like yeah, you know, I I think the truth is that there's always hierarchies in this world and I guess I guess this was just I think it was an easy path a lot of past I hope it didn't take up any resources. I hope it doesn't cost the state too much But I think if it was to stop some discrimination in a very popular industry that has a lot of money and power in seattle The tech industry then perhaps It's a good thing, you know, so why not but you know, man Like I said, it's dude. No law is perfect and maybe there's some side effects But you guys let us know in the comments down below again guys Uh, we're just on the outside looking in also wondering what this all means to because it's interesting to us But let us know in the comments down below. We are the hot pop boys and until next time we out. Peace