 All right. We got some work to do tonight. So let's call us the order of 633. Our annual meeting course like everything else been upset by COVID. And I do believe our bylaws say we got to have it prior to our showcase open house. No, no. You just have to have it yearly. Okay. And we've talked a lot about. We'll see how open this open house can be, but showcasing some of the summer documentary work. Yeah, we've been. We'll talk about what COVID search means for us. So. So let's count the roles here. Share. Treasurer. Secretary. I still go on. So. So really a pair down in your meeting. Really not a meet and greet with the public. It is the bare bones of what's in the bylaws. And that's really what the officers. So let's, let's count the roles here. Share. Treasurer. One. So for him. Right here. I thought the sec. When I was secretary, I was defaulted to being chair. If the chair was out. So I thought we like, yeah, yeah. Secretary and vice chair or one of the same. I think typically. I haven't had a place chair. I can say chair and whoever the officer is I want to decide chair can't do it. I think there was a time of use the language advice chair to really refer to the secretary, but. really verbiage. So, in terms of those three positions, presently, I am chair and be happy to serve again. Mike, presently, right here, I won't say the words for you, but I am thinking about phasing out. I plan to do that slowly, but I do plan to phase out. You do not see this particular election as your ideal phase out point, or do you? I would be willing to pass pressure on to someone that would be willing to take it. Okay. All right. And in terms of secretary, presently, Carlos, Carlos, interest, willingness to continue and or throw it into the ring. Absolutely. Unless somebody else is willing to pick it up, I'm willing to continue. Good idea. All right. I guess we ought to do the easy ones first. I'm willing to continue chairmanship, chairpersonship. I'm going to throw my hand in the ring. Is anyone else interested, William? Also, I nominate you to be president for the next year. All right. We can look for a second on the nomination. I second. Okay. Any other nominations on that position? Self-nominated is fine. I'm not, I'm happy to keep going, but if someone's chomping at the bit. I don't need to pass on that one and then work on the others. Okay. I just got to do the hold on Mike D moves and Dave seconds. CJ's calling in. Is that the little thing I heard? Yeah, she's, yeah. CJ, CJ's trying to get in. Yeah, she's calling in. Okay. I'll press pause it unless this goes along. No other, any other nominees for chair? I think, you know, Mike, Mike, Mike Abadi, I think you've done such a great job. I think you should continue. That's, that's where I stand. Okay. Thank you. I'll call the question then all as a favor of myself. Odd to say continuing as chair, please indicate by saying hi. Hi. Hi. Hey. And a Rachel and a post. Okay. Thank you for your vote of confidence. I, it's, thank you. It's motivating. Thanks. Let's just move to secretary. That's another one where the president secretary is willing to continue. Any other nominees self or otherwise stop quiet around here. I don't want to, I don't want to rush democracy, but any, anyone like to move to formally nominate Carlos to continue in the possession position? I'd like to nominate Carlos. All right. So, so moves. I'll second and Mike D. Coming up. Gladly accept my position. I haven't been elected yet. All right. This is, this is the moment of truth. I'm hearing no other nominees. I, I will call the question. All those in favor of Carlos continuing as secretary here at onion river community access media, please indicate by saying hi. Hi. Hi. And the pose. And it's awfully quiet. The vote of confidence is strong. Thank you. Carlos for continuing to serve for great your service. All right. Now things got a little more interesting treasure. Mike Doyle has served us well for, geez, we got to say decades. I'm, I am the, I'm, I'm the dean. And well, it's too weak a word in an exemplary fashion and putting us in a very healthy financial situation. But on the horizon, Mike's, Mike sees a, a disengager from that process. And this may be that pivot point. Or is it? So this is actually exciting. Is anybody entertained? And I don't know if you've been grooming somewhere to be your successor. Well, you know, Rachel has probably had more grooming than anybody else that I can think of. If she would like to do it, this might be a good time to say you would like to do it. It's nice to have a glimpse of her for a few seconds. Now she's turning back again. I will keep camera on. So here's the thing. I'm honored to be sex or to be treasurer at some point, but right now I simply cannot commit to the time that it would take to do the job justice as Mike has been doing it. This is something that I'm happy to discuss, but I've accepted an adjunct professorship at Champlain College and the class meets on Tuesday nights. Congratulations. Yeah, congrats. Lucky Champlain. Lucky Champlain. Thank you, but found they were holding the class. So I do need to work out the logistics of that, but I don't intend to leave the board if that's possible. But I, I can't commit if I'm not able to be at board meetings live. I think it's responsible of me to take treasurer at this point. The class does end in December. Got it. Thanks for good, clear, complete answer. Okay. I am willing to stick it out. If you all understand that we're going to need the treasurer. Yes, yes, telegraph your move, you know, not just tonight, so appreciate it on the long ramp. So Mike, the body is there is there a way that it can make it tonight into into our minutes where we devise a plan moving forward for the future so we could groom somebody to take that position? I think it's something we need to do. We should start now. Yeah, I mean, I think I think that process has begun. It's underway. The tapping on the shoulder. It's just the timing on this particular meeting may not fit. And I don't know if we wouldn't make any sense to entertain a January revisiting this or just right out of the year. It probably would be best to just everybody knows what's happening. Let's see what happens next. Yeah, I think this, I mean, I know Mike has expressed this interest in the handoff and actually done some work to make it happen. So Rachel's up to speed to a degree. Yeah. So there's a successor in waiting. It's just timing. Now, this is what I'm hearing. Now, right now, Rob has signature authority on that money. That is not nothing gets off, but that is not an ideal situation, theoretically. Right. Theoretically, what you need for a treasurer is a board member, not an executive director. But Rob, because of his competence, if something happened to me and and you were busy doing something in Champlain College, my fraternity used to be right next door to the girls door in Champlain College. A lot of memories there. Anyway, which probably could get me sued today. Anyway, where was I going? At any rate, Rob can handle the legal space. If somebody needs to transfer the money, in fact, he's already made a decision to stay with Edward Jones. We did have an option to go with Wells Fargo. And I let Rob make that decision. I will say it was a confrontation with Michael. And I think that, you know, when you are ready, Rachel, you know, like there is a heavy amount of lifting in state of day, and then just sort of oversight of my work with the funds. And that's, you know, a periodic meeting, you know, like that. And I will also add what I have before, that it will actually, if she's done in December, we don't have one meeting to miss by this class. But we could consider tonight to meet. Can we move it if we go ahead with that phase out plan? Well, I think we have to have a clean nomination and then discussion, discussion of the phase out is happening. I can memorialize in the minutes, but I think with the yeah, I mean, the bylaws got to dictate a pretty clean. He said he'll continue. Yes. So we need, I think we need a motion by someone other than Mike D. I move that Mike continue. Thank you, Dave. Dave so moves. And then we wait to see what happens in terms of a gradual phase out. Is there a step to be in the minutes? Is there a second? I think Rachel seconded or if you can put a prayer up. I did see. Thank you. Thank you. What's the thank you. I don't know if the council is second. Anyone's seconding Mike Doyle's continuation is treasure. Yes, I'll second. I heard. And any other nominees, I think we had that conversation. I will call the question then all those in favor of Mike Doyle, continuing exemplary record as a treasure in service to our comedian. Please indicate by saying I opposed would be in a and that is silence. So we have a unanimous consent on like these treasuring further. And I will put plans. Been a foot to ready a successor. No more specific than that. Please use the word of foot. I said plans been a foot. Plans been a foot. English spoken here. That's nice. We have done the hard work of freedom, Bob. We are all newly minted by consent unanimously. And that would put the annual meeting to bed and we can move right in the regular meeting, which I guess I do have to call the order at six forty nine and awaiting public say, I'm just going to ask it that CJ can hear us and that she's in. Oh, gotcha. She's muted. She may hear us. Okay, that sounds like her. It was it was noise. It was CJ. I could hear her. Sorry about the background noise. CJ, are you hearing us? Okay, you guys are five. Okay, great. You're choppy, but there I do not see any members of the public for public comment. So I'm going to move us along to approval of the minutes. Do we have hard copies? We do not because I couldn't find them. I'm hoping somebody will remind me what happened in the last meeting. I don't know if Carlos was there or was able to take minutes or we had a recording that we were going to submit to somebody to take minutes from. Oh, interesting. Well, step one for this agenda, the date of the meeting. Yeah, last meeting at the very least. So, Rob, I'm I'm not sure if I was there. The thing is that I don't have my computer with me. I'm getting my computer Monday. So if I didn't send it out, I could do that as soon as I get my computer. But let me check on my phone. I think Carlos is not free or right after the meeting. It was 22nd. Yeah. I know I have done the meeting the minutes one time this year. I just don't know who was the last meeting, right? And I do have a recording of it so we can always have a record of it. If I did the minutes, I would have sent for my work email, which I no longer have, and shared it with you. That's why the first person I looked is back to my email to see. Okay, I did not find anything. That's why I got suspicious that we may have had a thing where Carlos was unable to do it. We just want to report it and then some people are taking some of it for later and that didn't happen. Well, just be stable until next week. In terms of did we get the date on it? It's 22nd. Thank you. Okay. We know was audio or was it actually video recorded? There was an executive session piece where you press pause or had to edit out later. That's right, recorded. And that video will need, go ahead. Mike, is it possible to table this? If I was there, I mean, I had the minutes, I probably, there was a misstep and maybe it didn't send it. I'm not sure about that. And I could have that again as soon as Monday. I'm typing. We know it was video recorded and we will table approval until we can type minutes. If not found, we'll have to return to the video to extract decisions that were made. We can do a pretty quick and clean. I'm pretty sure I was at the last meeting. I thought I saw you there too in the reporting Carlos. No, I was in the last meeting. Yes, absolutely. Right before you left. Okay. Yeah, you'll look and just give me till Monday. So when I get my new computer, I'll just check out my, you know, just, I'll take you. I do have my hard drives with me. So you have until next Friday. No rush. It sounds good. Thank you. All right. I've got the tabling and the explanation. It's all been recorded. We are moving on item four. Mr. Chair. Yeah. One of the questions is whether or not, since we know Rachel will have to leave here soon, if it might be worthwhile moving, I think it might be the full discussion for the meet of the meeting. Item six to now. Executive session personnel committee. There's no reason to keep it towards the end. So that's, I just got to cut and base and move it prior to the financial reports. And it's done. She did run through situations and had some discussion on them. Ask for me. There's some loose ends from that discussion. No, this is the idea of like, could we consider a full time position where we already. Okay. As well as maybe the content of the form. And that may be a personnel committee, actually, especially not the full board, but if you want to approach the subject with the idea of, we are looking at contemplating this idea of adding a full time staff person to work out and wanted to bring it up to the board for them, what their thoughts were on it. Okay. So completely divorced the last time we went into executive discussion session for personnel reasons. I call us into executive session. Financial reports will bring us to Mike, do all our treasure and we will Is this official? Thanks for running over. Yeah. Bye bye. Mike D on the microphone. Well, I can handle Mike's What Michael does is let you know what how much money we have in the account right now what she's basically what we are the only comment that I'm going to make is that our reaching a point where it's now time that we actually do start using some of that. Yeah, and that rolls right in in a previous conversation. Because the state has an idea of what it was Yes. We can let this go on play the more we don't want to look like at a certain point in time that comes a motive for become something criminal. So it's good that you're starting to start flexing every dollar in a reserve is a dollar not spent fulfilling the mission you're looking at it that way right. So the hard numbers so the hard numbers as of today when I checked savings account 132,447 and 17 cents in the checking account 4,672 and 29 and I have the PayPal account which typically had that $40 sitting there because the campers have been going through PayPal. We now have $3,438 and that represents tuition as well as other forms of fun. I believe one of them. Yes, it is not differentiated out into particulars but you're talking about income not expenses right. Yes. So the people fees. Yes, so that's a so part of this is like me getting the counting right with this project. So things will show up on here. Okay. I'm like all right. So the PayPal field, I think I mentioned in my executive director report. PayPal money income for the course is not technically un-categorized income. But it's not in that box. No. An un-color categorized income is the COVID one we got and work. Moving on to the actuals. As I said you know this report is done 2021. So if you see the far right you should be seeing 100% because you're looking at much of our half a year's budget that we spent in those six months. So obviously for the income we're seeing a little bit of an increase. So we expected $172,500 for the first half but we got 182. We're seeing $10,000 more dollars in income. So we see 105% compensation. We're lower. As a reminder, 7,000 seed capital. No, not 7,000 seed. Ask Mike. People go up into compensation. So that's just an accounting thing when he does it like every other month. He takes compensation and moves it into the appropriate thing. So when he does payroll, he does lump sum and then at some point I ask, can you please move those into the appropriate accounts which be those top quarter three, five, 10, five, 50, 15, and 50, 16 out of the payroll. Which is one of the things I think explains the pension expense. It's a little bit high. See, 50, 30, we're at 100%. CJ, could you mute? I am so sorry. No problem. Thanks. So there's a different set of accounting that are going on that don't line up yet. So the account has to go in and take my transaction which I allocate entirely to the pension expense even though part of that is coming out of the employee's paycheck. That makes sense. So are we showing it differently on this particular budget sheet than we've done it before? No, I don't think so. I think it's just accounting. We've seen before in that. We'll explain. Okay. So net operating income is strikingly incredible. We budgeted to come out ahead by 6,000 and we're presently ahead by 62,000. Yes. And that's what happened. So we budgeted to come out ahead 13,000 a year. And I do expect that some of these will come up. So, you know, I don't think it will come up $120,000 up on income, but we're sitting pretty good. That's what I'm saying. Is any of that explained by all the changes in the world for the pandemic? Yes. Okay. So certainly the first half of this year, the first few months, we were a skeleton crew because we weren't standing camera operator. So we were still in the middle of the pandemic. Camera operators were not going out. Every time we sent a camera operator out, that's one person going out getting mileage. Whereas in the pandemic, we could have one staff person here running five computers capturing five meetings. So it costs us a lot less to run our regular operation during the pandemic. And we got compensation from the federal government to cover our COVID expenses. So we got additional money and we're saving them, which is a weird position to be in. No, but it's when we were able to just be able to get that without hiring a head owner to get money for us. I think the term you're looking for is fiduciary. Interesting. Yeah, that's not something we want to get used to. It's an odd occurrence of events. And, you know, we did, you know, most of those expenses did come from, you know, obviously, we back up our expenses, which were COVID related during that time, which included sending a camera operator to one place we were sending a camera operator, most of the governments at the time tried weekly press conference. So most all of that is COVID. My staff's time is trying to develop protocols around it and then maintaining that, you know, we came up with a percentage and used that. So it's been about five years. We're going to start paying for this. So this is what was the total at the end of June? Yes. Meanwhile, July has come and gone. August has come and halfway or more gone. And so how is this going to look different than the first six months? You're not going to see that $60,000 net income. Okay. But it's going to be other than that. Pretty similar. It's going to be, you know, some of the Boston staff. We haven't stopped having 1095, 1085 and 1075. And okay. I just wondered, because it would seem to me the final budget will be covering the time from July 1 until January 1 or no. What will be year, the calendar year have a final budget? The January meeting? I'm just thinking this year. Right. Is the weirdest year that there's been? And it's called the pandemic year and I thought it might be interesting. They have the final budget for the whole year. We call Orca media during pandemic. Yeah. Because I think that helps the layperson say, holy shit. They, they learn, they did and were able to produce all this during the time that the pandemic was holding people in past the times for a whole year. And I think that story is being told on the fan level, the statewide advocacy level. Yeah. They're developing a story. They're talking to legislators about it. Okay, good. I just want to, the pandemic actually, as well as a physical police, was a savior for people. Pandemic story. But I think it increased our awareness, but our importance. Our relevancy, you know, we, even just as you get down to the numbers of just how many people we now have as YouTube subscribers because of our, our weekly press conference. And gratitude that we're there. Michael even talked about, you know, he heard on DPR today and the knowledge that the stream coming to the press conference. Yeah. Let's say tweeted every, every week. So, thanks to Orca media. We have, and we've gotten figures on CNN that people use the article you can tell them. That's what it means. Well, it may be time to hire one of the, they, state muralists. Yeah. Just do an amazing art design. Well, and that's part of the notion of a whale in a TV set. Or somebody who's engaged in the community by telling the story of Orca media. They'll do it in an effective way, which I think is where, and I've often felt it would be bad. And that's a form of the garbage. And the orphan whale and the camera. Rob, the Comcast checks the old, the old way of staying afloat. How are they maintaining drop in rising? Last one looked like what? Under my report, second section finances. Oh, is that a new high 108? I don't know. Did we do 111, honey? I'd have to go back a few years. Look at, you know, before 2018, where we were at, I don't know where we were at or what our apartment was. 108 sounds like what we were headed for. That's, so we've got a new peak perhaps. Perhaps, you know, I wouldn't want to go see what we were at before the 5% drop in 2018 that we got when they get their change. But it's, you know, it certainly has maintained a flat line. You know, it may not be increasing, but it's not going down. There are certainly other places in the country where they are talking about it going down. Specifically, some of my associates in Massachusetts are talking about, you know, a 20% loss. But we, and even in Burlington, I think they're saying some significant losses that people, maybe more tech savvy, they go to streaming services. But here in Central Vermont, we seem to be, at least I would characterize flat line with a fluctuation of maybe 2% or something either way. I think that's all I have for finances. And as I said, we do, I do want to emphasize that we'll have a very robust report on the Utah Cemetery Lab and their finances once we get out of the actual session. We have gotten reimbursed from the government with the June expenditures, and he submitted his July expenditures. So we do know that the money does flow from that grant. A lot of it is up front. It's a reimbursing grant. So basically, we bring out the, we pay the expenses, submit the reports, and then get reimbursed for that. Any other questions on financials? So we can move to, I'll move to accept the financial report. All right. Mike D moves to accept. Is there a second? I'll second it. Dave C. Seconds to accept the financial. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. And opposed. Okay. Unanimous. Rob, you're still up, but your hats changed slightly through Executive Director's Report. Similar stuff we've already talked about. Mike just brought up the checks from Comcast. I talked about the report we want to do on the lab and how it's been going. As I did just a quick update on what I'm repairing from Christopher. The only other section I think I really have in here, although I'll add in Christopher, it has tends to reach out to the Chandler Arts Center and gotten a very positive response from them with some suggestions they could even pull me up some money for a program. Yeah, I warmed up that trail form, but I was really impressed with how he followed up and got very specific. Like I can see, okay, this guy makes things happen. Yeah. And then the first part of staff, we have added to our part-time staff camera operators as we get more and more people staffing. It got really kind of cut and dry there. We're short staffed when they all started up again in July, so we've been looking to fill and we now have added Ben Brown and Roberto Diaz Santos to our pool. And I know they've been some hours in this last payroll that I did this morning, so that they're in the pool and they're working and I have experience. I know that Ben's experience comes from filming the many high school sports, as well as the mountaineers, and that Gilberto does some stuff with CCB and does some educational video production. He's an immigrant from Cuba. I've been in Brooklyn, or in Montpelier now, so five years between the same way. What's that? So Rob, if I were a superintendent of schools, in New Orleans County, and I was interested in what my regular school board was going to be doing, would that school board be able to be put on work up or recorded by work up? School board meeting, I'm trying to figure out are people going to be in the room with each other without masks and have regular school board meetings and wondered whether somebody like us would come. Whether that's political meetings or whether that's... Our standard now is that if they are doing it in person, whereas that the board is in person, then we will be there with the camera up at the capture. Whether they're wearing masks or not? Well, yeah, it's up to them. We haven't implemented anything yet. We go by their rules now. And if they aren't meeting in person, then we can still capture by Zoom. Can we carry the Zoom meeting? Absolutely. We've been doing that for the whole time. I just wasn't sure what we were doing. Yep, so we use a computer to sign into the Zoom meeting and report it so that we can then turn it around. So our regular community work is still going on. Steve was interested. That's the point of information. You said Orleans County. Yeah. My only other point was I don't know how many towns we have in our service area that are in Orleans County. What if we acquire Orleans County? Or Orleans School District. Isn't there an Orleans School District someplace? Anyway, Northeast Kingdom someplace. We don't have anything in the Northeast Kingdom, but they were in our service area. I said, yes. Any KTV would catch them. So like any school, and we have some school districts do not necessarily line up with our service area. Yeah. So for instance, we may have the town of Rochester, maybe some school system that goes all the way down to Bennington and then like that. Yeah. So we could, we will do that because one of our towns is a part of that school system. But we all, all of us that do this are part of a general overview network. Is that Ben? Yes. And as far as you know, we're not only doing the bliss that he was talking about on our budget, but the other ones are doing well too. And we haven't, none of the community programs have dropped out. No, nobody's being trusted. Rochester staff had a COVID crisis run through the entire building. Okay. So I was curious to know how it was relatively dark. Thank you. And I also mentioned we, the full-time staff has been meeting regularly to work on the job descriptions. We're also working on updating the policies and procedures. And of course, doing the regular, regular operational questions would be particularly around creating. These offices are open. So I can come up here on a Monday or a Wednesday. We have reduced our hours. We're now not opening until 11 a.m. and shifted staff to both Jen and Zach coming in at 11. You know, there is some, with the idea to be temporary until we get back with it tonight. Although most of our traffic does seem to be in the later afternoon or evening, so there hasn't been a lot of people coming in at 9 a.m. And I'm also contemplating whether it's time to also get some hours back on the weekend. So when we were down on Main Street, we used to have Saturday hours. And I like to think that these are hours when people are not at their jobs. They want to come in and doing it. So finding the staff to back, open it back up for weekend hours. So it also would be on that. It's things to do. Haven't implemented it yet. Do you know when and if MFA people are going to start having workshops on the site? We know that they just this past month went through with the musical one. So they had a workshop. Yeah. Music and performances. Yep. All that. So that's a good, that holds well for that school continuing to be what it's been. Some of them, I think the word on the street, the word around the campus, is that some of them may never come back full time. Some of them are that can be done virtually may do that. So they're working on it themselves. But obviously musical performances is probably not the area. But it has an effect to us for all of it. On that note too. Vermont College of Fine Arts had its first live residency with music. The hope was that it would work if they could assist in them catching some of the musical performances and they were reluctant. They were hesitant. Because of movement? Because of shortness in time. And they're starting back up again. So they had a lot of logistics themselves to work out. So adding in an additional aspect to that. It's not something they were ready to do. Some of them were ready to do it. Some of them were not. Was it chamber music? What would the music be? Yeah. Composition. I think they're actually online. It's Chris Green who is running that did do it. And he was the one who approached the director. The director was the one who was hesitant. There's too many things we're just working on now. Let's just deal with what we have to deal with. We're seeing our presence in the college community as a good thing. Yeah. That's something we need to keep hammering. Go ahead Sue. I just need to say that I need to get off the call. So I wanted to let you know. Okay. I could just say that that's my report and we can be done. I could entertain them. If you want to make that your last act, Sue, is to move to accept the executive director's report. Second. Okay. And all those in favor. Thank you, Sue. Have a good night. You too. Bye. Seconds. And all those in favor accepting executive director's report. Aye. Aye. Hearing no nays. That's a unanimous moving us to old business. So I've got one thing for old business. This is CJ. I was waiting for a call from Zach to talk about moving the avionics content on. And so that's one thing. Is there any what do I need to do on my end? I couldn't know Zach on that. So I think, you know, the onus is on me to make sure that that gets back to you. Okay. Got it at this point. Any other old business. Yep. A next piece of old business is the astronomy for everyone has been supplying content to Orca. And they have a new one coming out documenting. I think it's a French telescope. They just wanted to reconfirm that we still remain interested in putting that content on our channel. Your decision, CJ, if you remain interested in having that content on the channel, then you do. Okay. Well, they'll just keep sending it over. But if we continue to have space for it, I'll tell them to just keep sending it. And then the third question is the other area where I think we could get funding and that I think is really a national as well as a Vermont issue is broadband. And I have not, I asked in the last DC Fiverr meeting as a board member, I asked what the story was about why would they reject coverage of their meetings? And I got some line of malarkey from her to me about, yes, I did reject coverage. I don't think we need to have anybody looking at our meetings. So they are public meetings. And I think what I wanted to suggest is that we have a, you know, there's an enormous amount of national interest in the Vermont model. There's a lot of funding going around. And I think it's important to make, you know, make the process of making the putting available. So what, and I had said I would bring a camera into the meetings with me. I think we had agreed that that wasn't a problem. What do I need to do to make sure that happens? So are you saying you haven't been able to connect the staff to get a camera to do that or? I just wasn't sure what you guys had mentioned putting a camera in the Randolph area. And then I could potentially pick that up and bring it down to South Royalton. I wasn't sure what the process was going to be. Sorry to bring this into the, I'm not sure this is the right place to raise it, but since I'm here, I'm raising it for two reasons. One is the general idea that we should be a nexus of broadband information. And then the second is just we have one particular broadband project that's very high visibility. We should probably be covering it. I would say, yeah, it probably doesn't need to be a board decision. I think it's just a matter of, I think the obstacle sounds like it's just a matter of getting equipment down there that you can access. So as I understand it, you probably are disinclined. You want to have to come up to Montalier to pick up equipment and then drive back down there, take the meeting, and then drive the equipment back up here, then go back down there for all. Kimball has- I can actually do that if desired. And that mileage is covered expense anyways for anybody who's borrowing equipment for something like that. Is that correct? Just put in a mileage reimbursement? CJ, we have a camera at Kimball. We have a set of structure for that. So I would say the equipment exists, but there's no sign out. There's no sign out structuring it. But I can really touch base with them and say, wondering where we're at with that. They'd want it to just get used to doing it and bringing the content. But we have a proficient board member who could silence signing it out. But the key thing for me then is just the next time there's a board meeting, I can either drive up to Randolph or- message the- Yeah, sorry, drive up to Montalier or message Kimball somehow. One or the other. Okay. I'm making you a camera that you can- a permanent loan to you, CJ. Say it again, Robbie. I may have a camera that I could even possibly put on permanent loan to you. As you know, and so even- Sure. You can keep it with you all the time so that you're ready. And then maybe you might want to even- Man, I'm not sure if we're discussing you as an employee, a part-time camera operator or if you're volunteering, you're trying to cover the meetings as a volunteer. I'm going to say we're off-board business and you guys can figure that out. Okay. Other role of business? The one thing I would bring up is the open house question. I've been in some serious discussions with the ACM Northeast, which I cheer the board about their conference. And last Friday, they were so concerned about the Delta variant surge that we postponed the conference and postponed any in-person meetings. That's the Northeast. Go ahead. The Alliance for Community in Northeast region. Okay. So there has been some real concerns. So does this impact our decision we made earlier this summer where we were going to have some sort of open house in September, showcase the kids' work and try to get people into our new location? So I'm kind of throwing it up there. It's a question of you. Am I still working on that September date? Or should we table it? Or let's table it. I agree with that. I think that the Delta thing has changed a lot of things. For instance, our church was going to reopen in September. And a couple of people have said, I don't know. Why are we opening? I was getting rid of those pants and the streets. And she gave me statistics in one of the places where there's less pure people having been vaccinated. It was in East Montpelier. Calus had a lot of people that had been vaccinated. East Montpelier didn't have very many. And so it's in East Montpelier's meeting house. Why in the world are we sending people back in? Just because it's Labor Day weekend. I also think another variable is looking at the end product, the summer camp. Because we were talking about showcasing that stuff around. So I'm told the dust has settled there at the very least. And then COVID overlaid still. Things to be open and show later in the fall or early spring. Right now it's climbing. About four weeks is probably when it starts going in the other direction. People will feel better about it. Yeah, there's a lot of anxiety with schools opening right up. So I'm certainly, I would actually advocate it. It gives a little bit of a kind of screws up the place. We have started working on some of the things. Getting it sort of public ready. But it gets so busy sometimes it's just something to get to. So that's how much we need to go down to the table. I just type we will table until we can assess further. Let's go to our back. Back to the second night's motion title. Old business where we can move into new. So this is some really good new business. Sounds like gold's over. I'm planning for it. Any new business as we look at 809 p.m. I have nothing. Any new business? Well a lot of, I think a lot of new business, potential was in our overall discussion. Agreed. You know, I can be a dictator and adjourn or entertain a motion to adjourn. Also move. All right. Might second that. D moves and Dave seconds to adjourn. All right. Carlos let's see, I guess I'm going to end the meeting now. 10. All those in favor say. Oh, all right. Aye. The magic moment. All right. There we are at 810 now. That's a good meeting. Yes.