 you saying I've done Skype like a couple times in 20 years well that's okay you spoke my speak my microphone in only like Saturday so that's working I'm not I don't have two left hands fortunately so that's working okay I just did a screen share can you see the spy I got it and you are so precious precious with your time I really mean that if I finish my Skype note for verification saying that you've worked long we I've worked long I was just gonna run out you to grab my feet if we want to do this another time we could and now your call was successful so now they got me for two minutes that's that's really great and listen great webinar to your bro pro thank you I know quality when I finally met quality and everything you said everything you touched on that losers keep losing by how many how many rooms have I been in I've lost count I've lost count like seriously I know remembering last year you tell me that you have a thing where you jump room to room to room to room to room I remember you telling me that like September last year yeah well I never did that but I mean you I think are are unique in the fact that you might do it a lot I think some people do it sometimes but I mean you were like the champion of jumping over something with just that to be sexist thing but this guy thing I got to go I can figure it out what it is yeah that personality thing you're right we're all different we're all different we're all unique over let's go over the spy here cuz you're in this right now and then we'll go over the altar okay so obviously you did this and then how many of these did you get yeah I'm in I'm in a spy now spy the one I called today yeah despite I have 15 car contracts you got a lot that's good okay so now how did you end up on the day with whatever price you got into the clothes were you up where you break even where were you into the clothes yeah in the club obviously down what did you pay what did you pay for him what do you know now now up and up in the you know I don't have it open right now but I'm definitely green late like you say really really late in the day yes yeah yeah okay good alright so we're this is up tonight so this looks great so like what are you gonna do with this tomorrow or what are you gonna do with this before we go over also what are you gonna do because you're gonna be up tomorrow morning into the open what are you gonna do right I would say my idea for the open is because the first half hour is so so volatile and and just not sensible to the relative to the rest of the day I I'm learning to not get shaken out in the morning because you never you never know you never know about overnight shakeout or new news that shake that's shake the first half-hour holders out so I don't mind shaking shake to a little morning shakeout activity of the first 10 minutes I think I'll watch it the first 10 minutes and see what it's doing which will give a better to me gives a better indication for the rest of the first half hour how the first 10 minutes react okay that's that's all a great scenario but let's just look here what did you pay for the what you pay for these what's your price okay let me look hold on let me look because this is gonna be over the strike I think into the open but what'd you pay for I pay 124 okay so based on that 124 divided by 2 so say you were up tomorrow say the price tomorrow morning is like 180 190 or 2 that means you're gonna be up say you're up in this 60 cents times 15 contracts which is so you're gonna be up a decent amount of money that's what I'm saying like I think you need to look at this like and see if you're up 50 cents 60 cents in this tomorrow morning what are you gonna do I know that's what I'm asking you like this is what I'm saying like I guess the shakeouts fine whatever but you're gonna be up yeah I would I would say the I would say I would I would close it I would close it for a very reasonable game with the first the first down take of probably on the first maybe one or three minute first first retracement well I mean if you get up into that if you get up into the opening you're up over a thousand dollars you could just take it out but if you want to hold this because tomorrow's only Tuesday then this could really have a really significant move I mean the target on this really is 285 and I mean you could make three thousand four thousand five thousand dollars in this if you let it run so I think that's something you got to think about between now and tomorrow morning forget the shakeout stuff I mean you're gonna be up in the gap up overnight into this and you could you could quit get out of it just make a quick thousand bucks or I'm telling you you could hold it and have a bigger trade that's what I'm saying but I don't know if this blows it out of the water tomorrow or not but it I don't know where we open so I won't know that till I get up in the morning see the gap and rate the gap but I'm just saying this potentially could end up being a really really big trade and with the size that you have then you could make you know you could even turn it over twice but you might be up over a thousand dollars into the open and that's a really nice gain for something that you took today and to get out of right of ways tomorrow because I can't guarantee that it's not gonna you know go crazy around like we talked about with the volatility before it actually goes yeah yeah so I like the analysis but your your projection I also liked your your last ten minutes about forecasting etc I mean I have to learn this from you I have to learn this in the future I know you didn't do the class yet I hope you did the class soon I mean I know you're not doing it exactly I mean I'm getting I'm getting more and more concrete of what I don't know I know enough now of what I don't know okay so so it's all what's all good about forecasting is I see the gaps and it's had multiple gaps over these last few days this fight which is ironic so it's just a well the interesting thing is it gap down on Friday if we gap down I'm gonna blow this up here really quickly and then we'll get to Alta the market gap down Friday hell did not fall up today so I got down Friday this wasn't a gap up even though we were green and that we didn't we didn't gap up here on Thursday we were neutral neutral so I'm sorry I mean I mean this was an aggressive call today and we fell off at one point and that's why I was hoping you didn't kill it some people probably did some people probably didn't kill this in here but that's why I said to the email the best thing you can do with these is just let them play out because nine times out of ten I'll call a train and they'll work out but they may not work right the second you take them some do some don't like Alta did but not everyone does so just I mean if I see something's gonna happen just let it play out until it happens can I ask you this though in direct content direct reflection to your statement there I did Costco many days ago I mean you know just fantastic call with this when you killed the spy today is this you speaking as a room that was a day trade that was a day trade don't get confused because you're not in the room yet you didn't do the class that was a day trade I talked about in the webinar the option trade is on that was a day trade I had another email about that today a guy that's doing the options and the room and I sent the email which I don't think you got because you're not in the room I sent an email to the room where the stop was there's no stops in the options trades you play them out don't get confused this was a day trade you got to get in and out by said time you could have retaken this today is a day trade but the options trade is on I'm saying I bet some people killed this because the market did fall off and broke the low and the way that this looks I mean this is this is an aggressive call to call the market here take that off and look at this here and we felt today we broke the low we were red red on the day at one point and that's how we close look at that we're up tonight look and that's why I'm not even surprised look at how much we're up tonight look at the fact that we're gapping up here that's what I'm saying people are short this market they shorted it today when we fell and broke the low yeah that's what I'm saying you may have a big trade in this so you could get out of five into the open hold ten great idea I don't you know I don't I don't scale out or in I'm gonna say the word enough but I'm gonna be honest with you and I like you already and trust you I don't scale in or out and that's a mistake isn't it there's no rule about that that some people do some people don't I don't do that all the time either I'm just trying to give you ideas here so you can book some money because I know it's it's the very big part of this process for you is convincing yourself that you can do it and getting to the point to do the class and you've had some good ones here so you booked some money like you did the all ten that's fine but it's like you could have taken I don't know how they did the oldest but you're gonna take in some outlet the rest ride so whatever you need to book money that is very important for you so I'm saying go ahead you're you're your your precious you know your observations and knowledge is I got in and out of Costco in and out of also but both way too early this way because it's very important for you to book money and when you're up when you're up you're happy but you're kind of scared a little bit because we're not used to making money so consistently so you're not used to my trades and you're also like surprised that you're up all these ones so I think like to try it up but then you were mad at yourself about this now let's go and look at this one here so this one here I don't even know what you're talking about about a shake up I mean this just went what are you even talking about with this one here let me go back just I think it was the first three minute it only retraced a little bit and bull I just I just hit the cell ticket can you can you switch to a three minute or I don't care what you this is a one minute but I mean the bottom line is that this never did anything wrong I don't know why you got scared on this at all that first maybe the fourth red candle or maybe the very maybe the very second one you must get out of it like you must have taken and got right out of it I don't even know it's terrible my lanta but you had a decent size in this too how many of these did you have I did I 25 that's insane did you go back and look what you would have made if you would have held him what would you have made 14,000 and how much how much did you make $2,500 $2,500 is good $2,500 is good yeah that's good that's great myself too hard but that's a big that's a huge difference that's a huge difference so what you could have done again is you could have booked 10 and then you could have let 15 ride and then you would have made still over 7 grand on the ones you let ride or half of that whatever and then you would have made close to 10 which is which was fantastic you're never gonna you know it's never gonna be you get the perfect exit the left I mean I'm not saying never but I'm saying it's rare that you get the perfect entry the perfect exit with the whole thing like even Costco I mean like who could have even foreseen on the planet that this I mean this look at that I mean that was ridiculousness that was a great call great calls great yeah but out by the third day I mean you know I don't know where everybody get out of this but I mean by the third day you're up a lot are you but you know I mean who look at that but anyways this thing here you literally must have I when you said shake out I'm like what is he talking about this didn't do this didn't even like it had one red one minute you must have gotten right out you must have taken a gun right I did I got well the ultimate mistake and tell me that it's a mistake just confirm or correct me if I'm wrong I got in on the very first bar but that's okay too no that's alright too because it took off I mean it did take off I mean I option chain wiggles and jiggles but I mean I you know I call the trades to move so you never know where you're gonna get filled but when you wouldn't you agree if the second one minute bar came down I know it didn't close low but the wick is lower than the opening of the first bar but what does it have to do with anything that doesn't do with anything that's why the second bar ship me out that's why it didn't shake you out you're doing an option trade this isn't a day trade it's an option trade I mean you could have done as a day trade obviously gotta get out but I mean as far as you're not you're not putting you didn't have a stop in where it stopped you out unless you got scared let me just rewind this unless you thought oh my god that was it I don't know what was going on in your mind again you haven't done the class yet but as far as this goes like I don't know what was going on in your mind unless you just were up so much so quick that you got scared and took it I bet that's all it was I remember the feeling it was it was up very quickly very strong just it felt like seconds night and minutes and I was out I was out by basically the end of the second minute yeah and that's okay you made $2500 but if you didn't take that size you wouldn't have but you know but but either way and that was a good amount of money because that this wasn't cheap your 25 contracts and this wasn't a cheap price option it doesn't matter I know it wasn't it wasn't as cheap like as a spy today but anyways you could have made $14,000 you didn't that's fine I'm just saying that you know you could piecemeal out of these I'm not saying that I develop time I'm not saying that anyone should I'm saying for you it's very very important for you to be green for like to just book the money but it doesn't you have to book it all and since you are taking a decent amount of size of these why not take advantage of allowing some of them to go now some will further go and some won't but then if you still have the ones that go that go bigger and you get it I think you'll be ahead in the end but I mean for you I think it is important to book money quickly of some amount of it because of the fact that you are you've been losing for so long now you signed up for the letter all these trades are working and it's working in your head everything's going great but now I think it's I think you can hold a little bit of some of these maybe not even half you could hold 30% if you want to they're not all gonna go and have you choose some will have one move and be done but like I'm just saying like you know for the spy tomorrow it's probably gonna be up into the open it's probably gonna be over the strike I do think it has a ways to run because if it opens up like that it's gonna take off I don't know if it's Tuesday or Wednesday or before the end of the week but I'm just saying that will be another one that's a big move that could be worth three four five I have no idea and if it's up over two tomorrow morning into the open you will be a profit you know so I may not want I may not want to hold for the news the the Fed interest rate news no that's not till Wednesday that's not till Wednesday you sure that's how it starts tomorrow two day a two-day channel I don't know but why what is what does it have to do with anything again you didn't do the class but if he gaps tomorrow morning the gap rates good then it's okay don't worry about it we're not trading the news I'm not trading the news that it's nothing to do with my system you didn't learn the strategy yet but I'm telling you that if the gap I'm telling you the gap rates well tomorrow morning don't worry about the news and that goes for any time again you didn't do the class yet but don't be trading the news it's not going to get you where you want to be because people are trading the news and they've been shorting the market which is idiotic because look at what's been going on here just like people have been shorting these topping tails boom boom and the resistance here and this capped up this capped up fail to fall through and I called the market long there I knew I knew it was going to do what it did today here but I was a week early but what it what does it matter you play it on through look at this we're getting bought right now look at this this is moving higher right now look at this is the zone is this gonna be over two eighty three tonight no way look it's at two eighty two seventy eight here it is that's really that's nice look at that so I think you should decide right now here this is tonight I think that you should this I think you should decide what you want to do and then start doing that on all the ones half a third whatever you want to do because you've been booking the money in that's great you've had some nice profits so what did you end up making a cost you may twenty five hundred an auto what did you end up making a cost go that was lighter size I think I fifteen hundred fifteen contacts when you're ready ahead you pay for the letter you're ready ahead your head confident confidence is building confidence building you are all right you are you you know you did you force your force the education of conviction I mean everything your webinar today tonight just it's not a program you know the repeating of the same thing this is very very very very totally psychological it is totally in the space between our two ears and we're all totally different and you're right totally I've been losing for so I've been inconsistent for so long basically losing for so long now I am like grabbing that quick game and I hope I can break that you keep doing that if you want to but I'm just saying you're taking substantial size like if you were to in one or two contracts if you were trading smaller size then it'd be different but I mean you're taking such good size in these that I think it's okay for you to hold a little bit again don't hold the half then hold a little bit but I mean you could keep doing what you're doing if you want I'm just trying to give you some different ideas it's totally up to you it's totally up to you but if you you know I think it is important for you to get green but you're a great success story Craig because I honestly you called me we talked for an over an hour on September and you were gonna do the class I have no idea why you didn't do it you didn't do it and then when I followed up I did follow you followed up with you look here we're gonna be over 283 it's happening right now look at this this is the market getting bought look at this right now there it is anyways I followed up with you followed up with you yeah and when you told me you lost after a count I didn't even believe it I thought you were making it up I'm like what are you talking about you had this much money you're 20 grand and when you said you lost that much I thought God why why did you take so long like you knew that what I was doing was working I talked to you but what what you just didn't want to pay or I don't understand why did you wait I think it was the obstinate engineer German mentality type guy that says you know what Craig great gal smart experience there's no one else very I mean I haven't seen something else like this before but surely Craig look in the mirror surely you can figure this out yourself not not is that what you really thought like honestly for me is that what you really thought honestly because I never know what people are thinking when I talk to them I think it's I think it's I can't say I made a I made a journal you know journal entry kind of thing I got I don't really blog myself but I do kind of recall because I've been I've been knocking at this is basically since you began I think you went back to 08 you said that's exactly when I bought some first first time over the top sorry over the internet basically course and ended up being a room and I go I go back 10 years of inconsistent losing but at no point in time did you didn't ever register that you weren't you weren't figuring you okay still thought that you could figure it out in your own even last year when did you find me when did you actually find out about me because you were following me for a while before you called me in September yeah not too long before contacting you so I'd say probably middle of middle of last year 18 probably okay all right yeah not sure a source where whatever but you know it could have been on your you know you got some some fantastic leverage there with your with your pieces and showcases on Fox bit Fox Fox business news channel it is the Fox channel yeah and others and I could it could have been one of your first with that but then that quickly leads to you know seeing a YouTube and this and that and differently so you're you're simply well established in the nature of your teachings to see it's not just it's not just finding you first your personality or your your marker on the web it's the presentation and the convincing confidence of your own countenance so I remember what I tell my wife once I said there's another I was in this trip I was in this group they've been bought out they're gone now but this is called wise trade no I never heard him but there's like a bazillion places I know well all the only reason to mention them is that there was one price one trader one one one of their clients watch your program money and but but one guy just took it further and she taught herself through the wise trades wise trades literature and program became successful right away did a became a gap trader on her own and perfected it and got to a thousand dollar a day goal she she she did not even speak English off the boat here from Vietnam and I'm thinking this girl couldn't even speak English and she's successful and then one one day I log into the room and I'm reading some personality saying well Jennifer tan you know this I remember the the Oriental Oriental last name has is so proud of her success so thankful that she's wrote herself a manual and we're making the manual available a download for free for any any of our members who want to download Jennifer trans strategy and you know what this this thing is very robust for for a non-professionals creation it was really really really well done and what do I do with it I put it I put it on a shelf and I'm doing friggin some other credit spread breakout bullshit and I did Craig was just jumping from thing to thing to thing Melissa and I'm just not part of that but yeah I finally see them I have a I have a confidence already brewing in the last 30 days of you and I twiddle not 30 but almost you know almost a month whatever two weeks so and I'm going back I remember the Costco the target I mean I'm what do you call it when you jump when you when you record I'm journaling I'm journaling my last four trades of you I journaled target I journal Costco I journaled Friday and now today and I'm looking at myself saying Craig this unequivocally works it's the math it's the pressure it's the this is a very very very duplicatable real strategy and I'm gonna be speaking a troubadour to your to your to your efforts even even my own personal story family and friends and other guys like me in my profession a lot of real estate you again you came to the real estate background you know people I know in real estate I know tens of thousands of people in real estate here in South Florida wow and we're like that we're like the Sixth borough of New York down here I'm in I'm in you know Fort Lauderdale we're basically Metro New York's sixth borough so a lot of people I know in real estate a lot of attorneys mortgage title yeah I think you can do this in the morning and do your stuff later which is nice to that's what I did when I was in the process I did mortgages later in the day so that I mean it all worked out as a transition as a transition career but I mean I just couldn't I just didn't want to be doing mortgages anymore I couldn't deal with the banks anymore it was ridiculous to get loans approved and it was that same thing and then working for yourself is so much better than having to deal with all that baloney yep yep yep some of my best friends are mortgage brokers and you know what they are watching what not not watching they are noticing right what are you doing what are you doing I know they won't understand what I do what I'm teaching myself to do they know I'm independent they know I have these little side business and things that I kept behind but but what they're really not understanding is I am doing this to be full time doing this because I love actually love trading I'm not doing this as a whatever I think that I think that's the thing a lot of people like you said you've been doing it for ten years people do it because they love it even if they're not making money but how long can you keep doing that and at some point then it's got away on you it's great to do something that you love but if you're not making any money what's the point you know what I mean like for me I'm such a headstrong person that it's like I pushed myself and push myself now it did take three years for me to figure it out but it's like I can't ever believe that I would ever have done something for that long without seeing progress and so I pushed myself to the end to the end to the grade but I mean like if people trade because they love it but ultimately if you're not achieving something out of it it does weigh on you not just financially but also confidence wise where you don't feel like you're a successful person and that is important it is important to feel like you're successful what you're doing not that you're losing you don't want to tell people you're losing and you don't want to feel like you're losing and if every trade that you take you're feeling like it's 50-50 or if a crap shoot it's really hard to put any size on it's hard to put any size on it all in fact you're putting pretty good size on here so you must have confidence in me at least because you've been putting some decent size on here you're still new and haven't done the class I would agree with everything perfect summary perfect assessment because what you're what you're saying there in a nutshell is also a psychological assessment of a brand newbie in your option newsletter in your sorry in your newsletter and but what has happened is you've gotten to know how I mean if I can call myself a trader just because that's what I'm just with this you're trading yes you're a trader you psychologically like Mark Douglas is excellent but you understand this like the psychology of a trade and trader this isn't investing again back back to your hour long it's so ubiquitous in the knowledge that's in that 60-minute presentation and I know you do it again you'll do it again I know but I have to push you I mean you didn't want to sign up for this even a month ago and I said you know what if you don't do it now you never will I mean I have to laugh like if I think back what I said to you because like I swear to God you I mean you're just like I was like if you don't do it now you never will that was probably one of your best clothes is you got a journal all the clothes I was very honest with you at least you know you did mortgages for decade or longer whatever but you are you're already good in sales yeah so you're so confident as a trader you are excellent in selling your system too yeah I was a little stubborn no question too many of us or of your customer market and your prospects out there too many of us I don't know how many tried for 10 years I mean maybe I'm a little unique at that I didn't give up after 10 years now I mean there's some people I've talked to that have been doing this for over 20 years I mean I don't know how and they're losing I mean not necessarily every year for 20 years but on and off on and off on and off you know what I mean yeah that's amazing yeah but not full time I know I wasn't alone yeah I read a lot of different blogs or whatever I can say I'm into it I love it yes I've been losing I read it I read things at night I get on different trails on the whatever YouTube and things and I've learned a lot but theory theory doesn't make your money and it took me a long it's taken me a long time to finally get to you find you say wait a minute wait gaps gaps are the methodology the reason gaps happen this is this is a mathematical phenomenon that I can learn I just got to learn it from somebody who's already winning and that's good that's that's it finally I finally got convinced here with the with the sign up on the newsletter so I'm so glad for back in September I'm not sure you're you're right no you were accurate in your you referenced you referenced my story there I did not use your story a million times in different webinars to teach people know whether they listen or not I honestly don't know but to hear it have it turn into a success story for you is great I want to see that and I want to see more of that and that's why it's good to do these conversations and have you have the feedback and put the testimonials in because and people can I think people know that I can do it I it's people I want people to know that regular people could do it and you're a regular guy and you spent 10 years and God knows how much money you know attempting to do it and losing and going back and forth and other other classes and things but you doesn't mean you'll never do it at some point you just have to take the leap I'm glad that you didn't wait till 2020 you know I'm glad that it's early enough in the year that you're seeing success with this and then can get involved with the class and then maybe day trade to depending on your time frame with your other business but I think that it's it's it's great that you're doing it it's great that you're following along and you don't you know that the head stuff it seems like it's not bothering you with these trains I mean you're getting that quick because you're up but other than that I don't think that's necessarily bad you could do that forever if you want I think that I think that you're doing well as far as the head stuff I mean you're not allowing the head stuff to mess up the trades which is good I felt I felt I felt confident I'm sorry I felt successful in staying with spy today I think some people killed this in fact I'm back and I can think of one guy one guy specifically he probably did because look at this is what here I'm gonna take this office is a stuff tonight in this morning but this is what the market did today really if you look at it I mean this it went sideways really here and we did break the low and it didn't recover but it you know if you were seeing this you might have thought like if I went back in time this look like a topping tail with a red bar the market went red on the day so I mean I think some people might have lost conviction and I just called it and I just called it and the daily chart it was strange looking but the market did gap up today and I saw it and I saw the breakout but anybody that stayed with this train is gonna be up tomorrow morning in the open now at 637 we didn't quite get over 283 we were 282 84 I think but this looks very very good I be shocked if we don't gap up tomorrow morning higher than this or same here we'll have to see again I don't know but this looks really really good I didn't look and see what earnings are out tomorrow but don't worry about the fed stuff and don't worry about the news right now do think about what I said between tonight tomorrow morning and decide do you want to get out of half of every trade hold the rest get out of a third something you don't have to change what you're doing if you don't want to but you could have made over $14,000 in that trade on Friday and man oh man with that have been a great success story I mean holy cow that you know seriously two weeks into the letter and to make that kind of money you know that would be great for you I want to see you do that at some point you know you could have done in a Costco if you'd taken more size yeah yeah yeah it's all met no no one listening on the scaling out a couple things great great suggestion I like it I'm gonna do it how about all I read so much I read about scaling in what's your what's your premise on scaling in I wouldn't add to any more trades right now you didn't do the class don't be doing that don't be going crazy to assess your risk decide the amount you want to risk per trade keep it similar per trade and play him out right now until you do the class I wouldn't start doing that no take the trades as I call them decide where you're gonna get out if you're at 50% 100% or get out divvy it up don't start doing that it's gonna screw you up and mess it up because you don't understand how to rate the gaps yet you haven't done the class and then you'll take more of a trade and you'll add in and then it will do something crazy and then you'll be down $14,000 do not do that right now you do not you haven't done the class I'm not saying never do it but don't do that right now unless I tell you otherwise if I say oh this looks amazing take more that's a different story but I haven't said that in anything so far right gotcha all right okay what a winner what a great call you are so fantastic thanks for the extra time all right it was good to talk to you it was good to meet you you too you too I'm so proud of you Greg I really am it takes guts to say gosh darn it I'm gonna listen to this girl and you are and I'm proud of you for doing that I know it took some you know motivation for you to get to that point I was hard on you and I'm glad that you listened to me and I'm so happy that you're making money and I want to see you make that $14,000 in some trade this year you'll hear you'll hear about it thank you for all you're pushing me and I'm this fellow Mike that you mentioned you're oh yeah I don't I didn't hear a word from him now I didn't see him in the webinar tonight and he I heard his stories on you know for an hour and a half on Friday I don't know he's another one that's scared and I I don't know so I haven't heard from him I don't even have his email so I can't send you I didn't get the guy cuz I don't even have his contact information so if he reaches out to me I'll refer him to you for sure maybe you can make him feel a little better you've got you've got my total you've got my total green light to do that and anyone else in the future as well by the way so no worries all right Craig you're a superstar I'll talk to you later okay take care okay all right bye