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I should probably record a job All right, here we go New show is brought to you by me you're welcome But it's also brought to you by over 4,000 other people who also find some value in it every day If you listen for the next 30 minutes and get even a little bit of value out of it yourself Consider going to patreon.com and searching for Daily Tech news show and giving some value back Now roll that beautiful theme music This is the Daily Tech news for Friday, October 23rd 2015 I'm Tom Merritt happy birthday to the best father-in-law a guy could ask for Rodrigo Rivera lots of birthdays in my my extended family this week Joining us today Shannon Morse co-host of tech thing with Patrick Norton and hack five with Darren kitchen Not hack five dot org a check a five dot org. How are you Shannon? I am doing awesome. How are you sir? I am doing well. Thanks for joining me. Absolutely. Hey, thanks for having me on again I know Darren's like crazy busy and he's got friends in town and everything so it's awesome that we can still get a little Hack five goodness. Yeah, he's probably sleeping in Like oh, he's just napping Also joining us Len Peralta to illustrate the show I can feel it Len there's been an awakening in your art There is man bring it on Kylo Ren. No, I think this one's gonna be cute. I think it's gonna be great So go to tech thing.com t e k t h i n g dot com go to Len Peralta store dot com While you listen to us discuss the headlines Big ol hack. Hey, you know, it's nice of him to do it on Fridays when we have people from hack five around UK's talk talk announced it suffered a Significant and sustained cyber attack on Wednesday, which may have comprised all four million customers personal information Including credit card numbers While some of the data was encrypted names addresses birth dates phone numbers and bank details were not Talk talk suffered a breach of customer of details in February and an attack on its mobile sales site in August as well Guardian reports tech talk talk confirmed that the company was quote contacted by someone claiming to be responsible and seeking payment We'd recommend changing your password if you are a talk talk customer as soon as the company makes the ability to change passwords Available again because apparently they turned that off. Thanks to Griffin for posting in the subreddit. I mean These are common stories these days Shannon, but I guess the significant thing here is a credit card numbers and b Third attack in a year ouch. Yeah, that's pretty bad It's pretty common for large companies like this to have several several different attacks throughout the year But none of them to be successful until one finally does like what happened in this case And it's also kind of surprising that somebody actually claimed to be responsible and asked for money Yeah, and then your first question is is it really the responsible party and you know, you're not gonna give money I would assume I probably wouldn't I'd probably start talking to the authorities and try to get this fixed also Why did talk talk turn off password? Yeah, that's kind of kind of ridiculous They should make that one of the very first steps after one of these kind of hacks happens unless they feel there's something some vulnerability in that system Yeah, it's entirely possible But it would make their customers feel a lot better if they were able to actually access their accounts and change their password For sure So anyway, I keep keep an eye on it. I keep checking with talk talk guardians covering this well BBC is covering this well The next web is is covering. Well, it's being covered. Well all over Blackberry's Android powered smartphone The priv is available for pre-order in the US for shipping November 6th I'm still not sure about that name $699 priv has a 5.4 inch quad HD display snapdragon 808 processor 32 gigs of storage 3 gigs ram 18 megapixel camera and a 3410 milliamp hour battery And of course a physical slideout keyboard because it's blackberry and if they're not gonna have the blackberry OS They got to have something blackberry on it The priv includes a built-in monitoring tool called D tech and the blackberry hub software in general So that's really what they're pitching is the blackberry security side of it phone will only work on AT&T and T mobile networks They say do you think the blackberry and security go together Shannon? I hesitate to ask There's a lot of companies that tend to go to blackberry for their own corporate uses So blackberry has been a pretty good tool when it comes to security However, I myself like to stick in the Android sphere The one that a lot of security professionals like to lean towards myself Yeah, so in other words why get a blackberry Android phone when you could just choose whatever phone you want in the Nexus they're the ones that get updated the fastest anyway. It is interesting to to see good old blackberry Dabbling in in the non blackberry non proprietary marketplace I guess very true and I have a lot of friends that really like to keyboards So they'll probably do okay. Yeah Bloomberg reports Twitter's new moments section will get its first advertiser this weekend That was fast. You know things only been around a couple weeks the movie Creed Which is in the Rocky Series we'll get a channel on moments where the studio can curate tweets and videos and other content about the movie Assuming people tweet about the movie Twitter expects to eventually have one of these promoted moments every day For some reason this doesn't bother me though I guess it depends on which promoted moments they end up choosing but choosing a movie was a good start cuz I'm like Well, okay, that seems like an event type thing that it may or I may not care about But it doesn't seem wrong to include it in that list It's something that a very large customer base would probably be interested in cuz hey Who doesn't like movies? There's people out there, but it's a small percentage of people that don't like movies in general So when I go to a good way to go. Yeah, would I go to moments and I see like the insurance moment? That's what I'm gonna maybe be more annoyed. Yeah Robot servant and Motank both submitted this next story on our subreddit a daily tech news show that reddit comm Mary Jo Foley pointing out That in Microsoft's earnings announcement yesterday being finally achieved profitability contributing more than one billion dollars in the quarter Before you think Siri which is powered by Bing search Mary Joy points out that 20% of search revenue was driven by Windows 10 devices Excluding traffic acquisition costs that means search revenue grew 20% year over year Thanks to higher revenue per search and search volume So the thanks should probably go to Cortana and AOL for taking over sales and up in that revenue Surprising yeah, Bing Bing and decide folks. I think it's you know Bing being part of Yahoo search Bing being part of Siri search Continuing to just get more market share from Windows 10 is is contributing into its use I don't know that it's got a groundswell of people switching. It's just more of using it ambient But that's not that's good enough Facebook announced its latest iOS app update fixes some of those battery usage issues You may have been hearing about engineering manager Ari Grant says two problems were identified and fixed one CPU spin he calls it had kept the app pushing network queries without any response It is posty compared it to a kid going are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Do we have network yet? Do we have network yet? And then the other problem was an audio session process that stayed open after a video was watched Even if you left the app and a lot of people had noticed like it seems like audio is still playing even though I went out of the Facebook app and stopped watching the video So Grant said those are fixed and Facebook is committed to continuing to improve the battery usage of our apps His I would suggest uninstalling Facebook and using it through the browser. Hey, you know what? I'd never do is open Facebook's app. So I never experienced these battery problems But you know, maybe you like Facebook and so then you should do it Shannon said You know what smart devices don't always need an internet connection and this wired report really caught my eye It's a travel coffee mug from ember that cools hot coffee to a drinkable temperature of your choosing as soon as you pour it in So your coffee can be brewed nice and hot, but you can bring it down between a hundred twenty a hundred forty five degrees Fahrenheit Then the mug will keep the coffee at that temperature for about four hours without even being charged You control the temp through a dial on the bottom of the mug and it's got a little embedded display that shows you the number That's it. No fancy interface. You can also control it through an app But it's not an internet of things connected device. It's just another way to set that temperature The way it works is a phase changing material that they say is similar to candle wax But they don't say what it is handles the passive cooling So it absorbs the heat out in a rate that you set and then there's an active heating system run by More traditional sensors and a processor that maintains the heat if you want one you can get it on indiegogo But it's pricey 129 bucks expected to ship in April 2016 That's pretty pricey, but I kind of want one I'm gonna admit I ordered the one like it's way too expensive, but I want to try this out and I'm I like you Shannon I'm a coffee achiever So I feel that it will just pay me back and coffee enjoyment I just love the idea that not every smart device has to be like pinging the internet or you know Settable from by your nest thermostat Sitting to sit around on our butts and not go anywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's a travel mug though See, so it gets you out of the house Pandora and the RIAA announced a settlement today Pandora will pay $90 million for the right not to be sued by the RIAA for playing songs recorded before February 15th 1972 which are not covered by federal copyright law Those songs are covered by a patchwork of state laws that existed prior to the federal law in 1972 Sirius XM paid $210 million in a similar deal in June. So Pandora got a bargain, I guess Yoda devices has a new owner and gadget reports that Hong Kong based investment company Rex Global has taken a 64.9% stake in Yoda although the company and most of its 100 employees will stay in Russia Yota, let me and emphasize the T because I know there's several of you making Yoda Imitations right now. So certain are you? Yota hopes the investment will give the company the resources it needs to sell and market the phones globally But the China Connections already there is ETE will build the next Yota phone scheduled to launch in the first half of next year Have you seen the the key thing about the Yota phone is that it has an e-ink screen on the back Yeah, it's cool. It's pretty cool Not sure I would get one and actually use both screens But I guess it would be one of those things where you'd have to actually use it all the time and kind of practice Yeah, I mean there's there's the Acceptability factor of whether you really need it or not But the bigger problem for Yoda was that they couldn't manufacture enough of them last time So hopefully this investment and partnering with ZTE will fix those problems and at least they'll be able to make it globally available Finally Microsoft has added one more skew to the surface book lineup tech radar reports the new $1,699 variant of the surface book is a base model with a core i5 processor Only 128 gigs of storage 8 gigs of RAM and here's the kicker a discrete NVIDIA GPU in the keyboard Like the more expensive models that pricing if you recognize 1699 is the same as the core i5 model with 256 gigs of storage But if you get the 256 gigs of storage, you don't get the GPU in the base model Microsoft hasn't divulged which GPU model is in the surface book But the rumors say that it's something with performance similar to the GeForce 940m Have you been taken by the surface book enthusiasm? I kind of have it's a little embarrassing to say that But they're really nice. I've seen a lot of reviews on them And I haven't gotten to touch one myself personally But so far everything that I've seen has been pretty much nothing but good words about it And as as close as I can compare it everybody calls it a MacBook Pro competitor So I took a look at what's available MacBook Pro wise and that same size and similar specs And it seems like it's about a $500 premium to pay for the surface book For and I get what you're getting for that premium is I guess the ability to pull that tablet off And I would and to be fair I was comparing the terabyte models of both of these So that premium may be a little smaller if you get a cheaper model, but I Like it I think it could make a great replacement for a MacBook Pro at that at that screen size I don't know if it's worth paying more to be able to pull that tablet off. Do you know? No, I barely use a tablet as it is right now And that might be kind of weird for most people But I mostly just use my phone which already has a pretty large screen on it and my my laptop. So Personally, I don't think I would pay for that premium. I wouldn't mind having the touchscreen But again, I'm not sure if that's worth my laptop does have a touch screen and surprisingly I use it a lot. It's really useful What laptop do you have you mind saying? It's the Acer Aspire s 7 I believe it's called or the Acer Aspire 7. Yeah, well that my friends are the headlines now If you're saying Tom you didn't mention the European net neutrality vote on Tuesday Well part of the reason I'm not is because that's Tuesday and we have a show on Monday But another part is I don't see anybody put it in the subreddit. You want stories on the show? Put them in the subreddit dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. It's not guaranteed to get them on the show I'm not gonna promise you that but it is one of the things we look at when we're thinking on the edge Like should we include the story today or not how many votes to get in the subreddit? So get in there and vote dailytechnewshow.reddit.com and that is a look at the headlines. I Call those headlines Interesting now. I know we talked a little bit about this last week with Yahoo interesting app from Capital One introduced today with something called Swift ID as Not a replacement for passwords if you remember last week Yahoo mail Announced a system where you can replace passwords by getting a notification and authorizing it on your phone What Capital One's doing is replacing your security questions So those like what was your dog's name or what street did you grow up in instead of having those you have an app? Notification on your phone and that allows you to log in anytime Capital One would otherwise ask security questions If it's noticing a weird pattern or from a new machine And so you can log in on the web by activating it on your phone It and the TechCrunch story says it captures a unique image of the phone Shannon and I were talking about this We think that probably just means what like it's looking at the IMEI and serial number and stuff like that Yeah So it sends a push notification to the phone you swipe to say yes, I do want to allow this log in and then it can allow you to log in if it's Posting a security question or if you're doing something like changing your address Doing a high amount transfer any anything that would normally kick those security questions in So this I saw this and and Shannon and I were talking before the show Lots of folks are starting to use the phone as a substitute for security whether it's passwords whether it's two-factor authentication I mean I have a Google Authenticator app on my phone or whether it's this Yahoo mail thing is the phone a good Augmentation and or replacement for passwords I Think it can be But it's it's a bit of a trade-off whenever you use a phone for authentication because it's a very high value thing That you're carrying around you're in your pocket So it's it's something that a lot of people a lot of thieves would look at as something that they could easily steal and it's also Available over the network. So it's something that could be easily hacked as well And in those two points for me does not make it a very good Authentication factory just because it it's it's high value. It's something that people might want to take away from you And it's easily hacked but on the other side. Yeah, it's a very very popular device A lot of people carry this around so it makes security be very easy for consumers So it would be you know very simple for anybody to use two-factor authentication as opposed to just a password Yeah, we had a few people on a subreddit thread and thanks to tg stellar for creating a thread about this on the subreddit Talking about how and and people discussing both sides of this that well I wouldn't want my phone to be my authentication because of the reasons Shannon just said I could lose the phone and people could get into it Or somebody could hack into it and other people are saying well, that's but that could be true of anything You can lose a UB key People can hack into all kinds of things. It's certainly more safe than not having a second factor and you should secure your phone Right, so full disk encryption on your phone and a strong password and maybe some kind of thumbprint a Way to get into the phone. Yeah, I mean it with anything in security, right? It's always about Percentages it's you're never gonna get a hundred percent secure. Do you think but do you think I mean what what's the options though, right? I've got a lot of people are like, okay My service of choice doesn't let me use a UB key or anything like that So what do I do? I don't want to try to remember passwords But if I if I keep my passwords in in some kind of Login thing like last pass. I feel like that's just as hackable as a phone So why not just do a memorable password with two-factor authentication that my phone is used to walk me in But then you got your password that could be totally easily You know not encrypted if you if it was stolen or it might be plain text on a website So hopefully you're not using the same password on several sites And then you have the phone that could be stolen. I use the little phyto You'll hear some clinging because I'm picking up my car keys But I use the little phyto two-factor authentication for my Google account and but if I don't have that available I can also sign in with Google Authenticator from my phone So even then it's still not a hundred percent secure You can still get hacked if somebody had both of those authentication devices or one or the other So there's no like final perfect answer at this point it's still very much a tennis match between the cyber criminals and the consumers and Including the corporate and businesses to trying to protect ourselves and them trying to steal everything Yeah, a lot of people are looking at two-factor authentication now as a buzzword sadly I'm glad that it's getting that popular But for instance Intel has something called true key and they talk about how they use biometrics Which was already a buzzword facial recognition and thumbprint as well as two-factor authentication on all your passwords So so Shannon it gets rid of all your passwords. You never have to remember a password again It's it's basically just a big password manager. It doesn't provide any extra security to the sites you're logging into It's just a really secure password vault And I feel like oh man I'm in some ways. I'm like well This is a this is a great thing if you're going to use a password vault having Extra security on top of it certainly two-factor authentication is a good thing But they're they're kind of pitching it in this true key comm website like oh well This will make you more secure and and if the if the website itself isn't doing two-factor authentication It doesn't do anything. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, not if your passwords are already are not already secure to Problem with password managers unless you choose to use a different password for every single site is even if you save all Your passwords in a password manager and one of the sites that you sign into uses plain text authentication or gets hacked and and is Easily unencrypted from whatever hash that they are using Then somebody would be able to figure out what password you use for every other site So you have to make sure that you're using a different one for each and every site and hopefully you're using two-factor Authentication on top of that even if you're using that manager and that's kind of where we are right now Which is if you're going to use a password manager make sure you're using it so that you don't even know what the passwords are Maybe like so there's the different one. I don't know my own passwords. Yeah, there's a different one for every site Definitely don't duplicate use two-factor authentication on that password manager for goodness sake And any site that offers two-factor authentication you probably should turn that on And I like the Yubi key system from the Fido Alliance as well I think that's that's a great way to do two-factor authentication Problem is you just can't get two-factor authentication on everything. Yeah, that is unfortunate It hasn't been implemented on every site that I use but I am really happy to see that two-factor has been used on a lot of the More susceptible websites like social networks and banking and like Gmail for example So luckily a lot of those have been using TFA Which does give you a little bit of extra authentication, but still passwords aren't perfect So you have to make sure that you're using the best that you really can Even passphrases those are a good option as well Yeah, putting together a little sentence with some numbers in it. Yeah, absolutely Making something that's like a hundred characters long with some spaces in there in a period and capitals and numbers and everything So it definitely helps to do something like that as opposed to just a ten character password because even if you do Switch out your some of the letters for symbols like a dollar sign for an s for example There's a lot of rainbow tables and there's a lot of password crackers that use those now And they they've already figured out what we think is secure Guess what the people who make the rainbow tables actually knew that three could be substituted for an e a long time ago exactly That's a really good point before we get off of this though back to using your phone as the second factor Again, it's like everything else you need to take a lot of precautions if you do that for one thing Don't lose the phone, but if you do lose the phone Or what if you can't afford the phone anymore like it's one thing to say like this this doesn't work for anybody You can't afford a phone although so many people can get into phone like most people have a cell phone these days So that leaves out a small amount of people who either don't want or can't afford a phone So it shouldn't be the only way to get to factor authentication But what if you're what if you you know, you don't you can't pay your bill anymore and you lose your phone number? Not to mention losing your phone There have to be clear ways to Deauthenticate and and disconnect yourself from these phone numbers as well, and I'm not sure those are always clear. Yeah, absolutely for example with What was it? I don't remember the site at the moment there There's one site that I use and it's very hard to Deauthenticate an old cell phone to put the new two-factor on a new phone with Google auth or whatever application that you're using So it gets really complicated real fast for consumers to be able to figure this stuff out So we need to give them a better way for ease of use for this better security Yeah, for instance Google's two-factor does allow you to get some safety Numbers that you should print out and keep very secure again, right? But but that's a way to to hedge your bets against losing your phone losing your keys or losing your phone number Well, folks if this is the kind of thing that interests you and you want to learn more about it for sure Watch tech thing T. E. K. T. H. I. N. G. And of course hack 5 H. A. K. 5. O. R. G Both of them are fantastic and both of them involve Shannon. Why wouldn't you watch it's true? They do and I have purple hair and that makes everything better. Yeah I mean come for the purple hair stay for the good security advice and tech tips Pick of the day comes from Matt in British Columbia who's been playing around with encrypted services and wants to pick an email service For us hosted by German company Tutanota dot de that's t u t a n o t a dot de Matt writes all email you store in their servers is encrypted emails between two to know to users are automatically sent encrypted And the best feature is that any email sent to a non Tutanota user can be encrypted with a password the recipient receives an email with a link when they click on the link They have to enter a pre-arranged password. So that's the vulnerability there is making sure you get that password to him securely And they can read the email and even send an encrypted reply when they do free service gives you a gigabyte One user mailbox premium users can add more users to their account and even add their own custom domain He also mentions a an online dropbox type like service called sink comm s y n c which encrypts online storage But leaves the key with you so that they don't have any knowledge of what's in those files you're storing there Cool Yeah, exactly. I was gonna ask if you'd heard of either one of these Because this is just these are just Matt's picks so especially when you're getting a secure service do some looking around find out If anybody else has audited that their security practices before you put your trust in them Matt says he's still playing around with them Himself. He hasn't quite switched over but they might be worth a look. Yeah, absolutely I like looking at things like that I also suggest use a PGP on top of your your emails just in case because you never know if a company is actually encrypted Yeah, absolutely Send your picks to us though folks keep them coming feedback at Daily Tech news show comm You can find my picks at Daily Tech news show comm slash picks few emails before we get out of here From sometimes cold sometimes too hot crazy fall weather Salt Lake City Based on your discussion of who the correct demographic is for the new play music YouTube red the other things you mentioned in the bundle I just turned 32. He said I used YouTube heavily to teach myself all sorts of varied skills So do a few others in my family age ranges of 28 to 59 We all enjoy listening to music though. None of us are audio files Typically, we just use the free tier of Pandora or Spotify So we don't care or can't tell that we're receiving terrible quality audio Sorry Nate all we need to know is no ads on either play music or YouTube videos And we're in the other services, which I've already forgotten about our collateral perks But removing the ads on YouTube and play music streaming are highly interesting And I think we'll be signing up for this Especially if YouTube red will be thrown into the play music family a plan coming up I'm not familiar with the statistics the music versus non music videos on YouTube but I would venture to say that I'd not be surprised to find out that the non music videos were a large majority and That the amount of people that would fit in the same mold as those of my family would get on the service in a heartbeat Just thought I'd throw that out there Usually I don't necessarily respond to somebody saying you said the demo was 18 to 34 But I do that thing and I'm 35 because you know, there's always outliers But I thought this was an interesting story and I thought it shows like what YouTube is considered where it's like Hey, we know a lot of you are like really into Grace Helbig and and want to watch those videos without commercials So we're doing it for you But this is like we're actually just did the DIY section which you don't hear about as much on YouTube But that's a huge number of people watching videos in YouTube and they definitely want to get rid of the ads as well Especially if it throws in some free music It's interesting to me. I'm I'm a little skeptical about YouTube red given that I'm a content creator as well So it makes me a little nervous, but the more I read about it the more I think okay Maybe this is a cool thing. Well, it's gonna be all about the payments, right? Yeah, and what you what YouTube is screwed up and yeah, my wife works there What YouTube has screwed up is messaging this to the creators to make them feel better because I'm the same way It's like if this $10 a month Get split up equitably and I see either no change or a rise in the amount of money I make then I'm fine with what all the fears are about what all of the people I've seen complaining about it are saying is I think I'm going to make less money and if that's true, then yeah, this is bad But it you kind of have to wait to see I guess. Yeah, we do Finally rich from lovely Cleveland says since such a Nadella took over at Microsoft I think everyone's been impressed with the change in public perception of the company Well, it's hard to argue that Nadella has brought about a substantial shift in the company I just got to thinking one of Steve Balmer's credo's besides developers developers developers was to put windows on everything This will kind of retriality when Windows 10 hits their phone and Xbox platforms It's weird that we forget that Windows 10 is kind of a fundamentally old-school Microsoft idea What Nadella has done is not to see this as an endpoint But is merely one inflection upon which Microsoft can sell their services not even a first among equals at that Still the Microsoft dream of the 90s is kind of happening just in the most anti-climactic way possible I want to agree and I definitely want to give credit to Balmer for that side of things that Rich is pointing out But I think the big difference is Balmer one windows on everything in other words on your Linux machines on your Macs Like I think Nadella is like, you know, it's fine use Linux great use OS 10 great Use Android fine. We want our services to be everywhere And I think that was shown in the earnings yesterday when you see Bing going up because of Windows 10 They're they're not charging for Windows 10, but they can make money off of it in that way through Bing services You see cloud leading the way and money because they're putting the cloud service available Everywhere and you see Microsoft Office making some money because at least up against subscribers Again because they're putting it everywhere Absolutely, I think that's very smart of him to say that like to go with Services as opposed to hardware because it is a little bit less expensive to create services as opposed to hardware as long as you have the Long-term benefits of a good service So we'll see. Yeah, you know what I for you Steve Balmer fans I know there's one of you out there named Steve Balmer. There might be more I think Rich is making a good point of like hey what Nadella did was just Kind of changed the direction of what Steve Balmer said in motion And maybe such Nadella would never have been able to do this had it not been for that foundation being laid You know not to mention Bill Gates and Paul Allen inventing the company in the first place Yeah, well that is it for the show. Thank you Shannon for joining us. This is great. Yeah, thank you super fun I love talking about all this geeky stuff. It's great. Yeah. Yeah, it's good stuff Like I said tech thing.com to ekthing.com twitter.com slash snubs follow follow Shannon Snuby s anything in particular to let folks knows coming up Let's see. We've been having a lot of fun on hack five recently hacking radio waves We literally took a little remote control and we were able to turn on the light with a radio Software-defined dongle basically it called a yardstick one as opposed to using the remote control. It was so cool Radio hacks and radio waves sound awesome because you can do it's like magic It's basically how people introduce themselves to being able to unlock people's cars with radios. Yeah So and if you want to know how to yeah, and if you want to know how to secure your car That's probably something that we need to know absolutely Len Peralta has been drawing this entire episode twitter.com slash Len Peralta Len Peralta store.com And what have you been drawing Len? Well, of course, I Couldn't have done Swift ID without doing something about Taylor Swift So and you know, of course, I had to draw Taylor Swift in there and of course I had to draw Snubs Shannon in there because I don't have never done it before So so yeah in this little drawing for those of you who are not seeing the video Shannon saying the Swift ID is really cutting edge tech and it's catchy to boot and here's my favorite part is the lyrics Are you zoomed in too far wait wait wait wait wait TFA ain't gonna break break break break I think you be key should probably pursue some sort of licensing agreement with Miss Swift, you know I was very surprised when I saw that story and it didn't already happen. It was a little bit. I gotta tell you I was a little bit depressed about that. 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Talk to you then The show is part of the frog pants network get more at frog pants dot-com Booyah Incredible art That you talked yourself. I knew it. I had a feeling it was gonna be amazing today I'm buying it right now. The only thing I'd say Len is to make the TFA a two I mean, it's what you got isn't wrong, but that's like the that's the street cred not street cred Okay, that's the way I see it a lot. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I you know, I just heard someone say TFA during the show. So that's why I did it Yeah, yeah, no, like I said, it wasn't wrong, but that's that'll give the two factor authentication folks even more reason to buy This is fun. This was a lot. I had a lot of fun with this one. Yeah, that was good I needed to find a reason to draw Both Shannon and Taylor Swift. So I like that Taylor Swift looks just about as she does in real life in this She totally does What are you like like a key she looks just like a yeah, or like, you know, like a small chopstick There she is right there Thank You beat master So what are we gonna call this show? Well, your chat room has some suggestions. Excellent You've got capital one gets Swifty My phone is my passport to verify me Let's see there was one I liked get Swifty in here. I'm sorry. What talk talk gets hacked Twitter's creed Not a panoply of paired password paradigms. Wow. I do like this one from 10 back even though Probably too long which is two factors diverged in a wood and I took the eye took the one more authenticated He's even got that a double eye. That's that's dedication to the bit Poetry there and I I took the one more authenticated I always I feel like that one can stand as two factors diverged in a wood Yeah, and then we could just use it in whole and when it gets cut off who cares. It's not a big deal Just winked at me and and said the word chicken with his mind What? Just got chicken nuggets delivered My chicken nuggets Ellie thinks Roger's fingers are chicken nuggets I Understand ever since she got longer her feet are constantly in the way. She doesn't know what to do with them She sucks on them where she kicks me in the gut Seems like a good use You know chicken nuggets are one of the few items of McDonald's that you actually don't I think I mentioned this before It doesn't get cheaper as you buy more like if you buy five piece versus 20, you're not saving any There's no bulk discount. Yeah. Yeah, but it is pretty cheap. What is it like two bucks for 20 or something? Everyone's while I just get a taste for McDonald's chicken McNuggets. What's your favorite dipping sauce? None? Really? No dipping sauce. I go I go commando. I am always sweet and sour constantly That's the only way that I can eat those things olive sweet and no sweet and sour. Oh, just sweet. Oh, you're all I If I have to get like if they like if I forget or they like what sauce do you want? I and I just do and I just get intimidated and answering. I'll say mustard Honey mustard. Yeah, but I never use it. See to me. It doesn't taste like chicken nuggets That's unless it has sweet and sour sauce. That's interesting. Yeah. No, I just like the pure nugget experience Adornment Chicken, right? I do Yeah, that's what it is One of my favorite food science songs is pollen storms. Oh, yeah, man Nugget man the name of it. I can remember it man. Yeah, it is They buried him in a styrofoam coffin I always I Always wish I don't know how to say this without sounding crass at a downer I wish my dad were still alive to hear that song, but he was a food scientist He would and he would love he would love that. Yeah. Oh, I know It's all right. I have any more stuff to your food to make it better It's a happy thought it is. I'm sure he would have been all like gun ho over Genetically modified foods. Oh, yeah, that would have been his jam This coffee mug I keep on looking at it and I'm like Can I nicely designed to can I just write it off on my taxes? Sure. Yeah, you're gonna review it on tech thing, right, right? And done wait, maybe I should contact them first and see if I can get one I'll put it on my show promise That's true. Maybe you can just get one cent Title is going to be two factors diverged in a wood And I I took the one more authenticated by more authentic or just more Yeah, if you can for sure What is Jessica Jones Jessica Jones is the new Marvel. Oh Oh her Yeah, did you like did you watch Daredevil? Yeah, I did so Jessica Jones is in that same universe. Yeah, Daredevil. Oh cool isn't it? Well, they're doing a Luke Cage power man, right? Oh, I like that chick. She's fun. Oh, yeah reader is excellent That's one reason to watch it. She's so David Tennant is the villain. Yeah, that's right. He's in it She's the initial villain. I'm sure there'll be more Well, yeah, well Daredevil spoilers Daredevil has Punisher in it. He's coming in next next season, which is gonna be cool. Oh Frank Castle. Now, this is the thing every Punisher Marvel property either either like in movies and stuff have all sucked I'm wondering if they can actually pull it off where he's not like some weird Kind of well, they probably I mean, yeah, I mean well look who you have though you had Dolph Lundgren Mary Jane and then you had English guy that they shot the entire movie in like Montreal or something What do you think about having a la meetup at Popeyes? Cuz everyone in the chat's talking about fried chicken now and they want all they will want Popeyes an awesome idea There's good chicken at Popeyes You know where you can go to get really good fried chicken at Dragon Con is Pity Pat's porch Which is over across the street from the Weston? Oh It was so good I've seen that place. It's good, huh? Yeah. Yeah, it is good Authentic Southern cooking man, man. Oh man talk about fried chicken. I mean if I want really good fried chicken I would go down to a frame. I'm talking about that's good, too. Yeah Lenin I forgot you eat there with me. Yeah with Michelle Your can chicken You know, it's all good fried chicken. I mean the grease to let it should be nice and crisp But it shouldn't be greasy. Yeah, I always threw me off. I like greasy and then and then the meat Sometimes you bite into it. It's like good crisp, but then the meats all dry. That's like the worst. Oh, yeah No, you want it to be juicy? Yeah Crisp on the outside juicy on the inside Come on down Tom fried chicken We make it the Greenville way which means we bought it at IGA Let's try to figure out what the Greenville way would mean that was all I could come up with Yeah, yeah, we don't really have we have a I have to travel a little bit to get a good fried chicken, but Great fried chicken coast. What was it? It was mr. Drumstick We always ate at mr. Drumstick when I was growing up. I don't know what happened to that recall him up and ask for Mrs. Drums to speak to mr. Drumstick, please Mrs. Drumstick around How are you two doing? Pioneer chicken Pioneer no Yep, now I want fried chicken man. Yeah, thanks a lot. You're gonna have you're gonna have orange chicken. That's I know but That's not even close. Now. You know what? I have to make the orange only disagrees the baby does not he's like stop talking about chicken Wrong with you people. Hi. All right Well, there you go Another one in the books man. Yeah, well done As usual good job everybody. Good job. Good job. Good game. Good game Did you watch any of the Cubs series this past week? Oh, I sure did Man so fun Tom had his cubs with a little bit of Schadenfreude, I think he was maybe maybe Although I will give the side. I can't remember who it was on Twitter now And I've got getting bad at remembering people's names anymore, but somebody pointed out that the Cardinals have never beaten the Cubs in the playoffs Well, this is the first time they ever met was this year But yeah, let's go Mets I don't know if the blue jays pull it off against the Royals which they'd have to win two in a row to do so it might It might not happen. I might pull for the blue jays But other I'd be happy with the Mets You're a Mets fan. No, no, I'm not a Mets fan But I have but I have no problems with the Mets. I have a tiny bit of a historical problem with the Royals Really? What's that? Well, because they they won the 85 World Series against the Cardinals and there was that controversial calling game 6 That went against the Cardinals and just left a bad taste in every year. Yeah, that's that taints a Taints a sports team. I don't really hate the Royals. I don't have any I tell you I was the only reason I was rooting for the Cubs was because I wanted to see if if they could they could make that True back to the future true. Yeah Miami Marlins are in the wrong league to make that true. So it was already still born No, they won when they were supposed to win No, the series in back to the future too was Miami and Chicago. Oh, oh, yes, but everyone forgets the loser the Florida nine game World Series the Florida Marlins won in 97 which was which back to the future also predicted and that was against my Indians Back to the future picked predicted a 97 Miami win. Yes, huh? And at the time Miami wasn't even a team, right? So so they had gotten the first part, but they weren't called the Miami Marlins Then they at least were caught are called Miami Marlins now. They were just the Miami They just said Florida No, because it was Florida. They didn't call they didn't say Miami. They said Florida because it was because You know back to the future really? Yeah, Biff Biff says Florida's you have a team or something like that What the heck? But they predicted it. That's why it was so poignant when we lost that game It was like the first part of fact of the future came This is the longest mp3 URL by the way that I think I've ever put out Daily Technic show so I hope overcast doesn't choke on it Because overcast always seems to be the one that has problems lately. I gotta figure out if I'm gonna do the fried chicken I gotta figure out where do you can go? There's a KFC over here. I don't want to do KFC. No, I actually like KFC But we call it we call it KFD Why the D stands for oh, I think I All right, well, I'm gonna I'm out of here, too. I'm done. I'm out of the post. So thanks everybody. Have a good weekend