 Welcome back to the breakfast and plus TV Africa it's time for us to take you through the pages of national dailies of course at this time just before the hour of eight o'clock we do have guests who stand by he joins the conversation in no time Ezekiel we call him a toy com it's good to have you join us right here morning nice to be on your station as always thank you Ezekiel that's all right let's start off with the leadership newspaper and i'd look at the top caption on the leadership newspaper the big star is right here the first says bonnie wouldn't return as apc ketica committee chairman a revised courted on that very interesting see how things actually falls out just before how many more days again before the elections for the apc the elections are slated for the 26th and so forth we haven't had a different report says neck will ratify his removal next week president axos the vacate court orders topping convention bonnie remence chairman apc senators insist bellow inaugurates convention committee releases zoning list north central retains chairman and southwest gets secretary and these are the riders on the underneath the boat caption second niger breach to be ready next month gambari's courted and defection omae appeals suck by court and just before we move away this is really sad bandits killed 13th soldiers and five policemen in keby so i saw pictures and he was really really really sad you know to see your soldiers lying very you know live less and very helpless situation really looks bleak the question is could it be that you know the security architecture has been overpowered by this bandit west fear russia may use unconventional weapons and that's what you have here and we just stick this one before we move away as a strike utas has failed integrity test federal government insist and that's the much we can take on the leadership this morning let's turn attention to the headlines coming on the front page of the nation with a big one there al-rafi 19 apc governors endorsed boone's removal al-rafi 19 apc governors endorsed boone's rule that's what al-rafi is saying if you want to understand that they're like and the following riders buhari rebuff's lobbies you'll be governor a part of the way excluded from convention committee what a life senate caucus stands by c e c p c that's a convention the extraordinary convention planning committee the catechize extraordinary extraordinary convention planning committee the senate caucus stands by c c e c p c chair party releases n w c zoning formula neck meeting for march 17 and the big question can the apc hold its national convention let's not forget that the pdp when they elected their new national chairman ior chay you through a challenge to the apc to hold their own national convention let's see they can they can beat or meet that challenge a many killed and bandits attack on deputy governor's convoy we have another one senate refuses to amend electoral act law and defense action abacari's extradition suit for hearing march 23 why nigeria can't meet open quarter by silver that's talking about timmy pressilva the minister of state for petroleum and uh we have also still from the nation umahi on the fire for attacking judge boye governor i respect judiciary airpiece max united three others form alliance 50 returnees from ukraine test positive for covet 19 and seven men raped a 13 year old really really really sad indeed and we have a picture there of the tanker the petrol tank on fire at a filling station in mushi area of leagas yesterday so headlines coming on the front page of the nation away from the nation newspaper we take a look at the daily independent and set up with the boat caption that says how five apc governors stage cool against bony it's boldly written you'll be governor akpano do it again names missing in convention committee list apc senators and says bony remains party's ketika chairman bony is gone the secretary is gone governor bello is in charge air fire is quoted it's quite interesting seeing things you know going in to the party um you also have another saying senators throw out bohari's request to amend electoral acts and some people say uh when you talk about the ninth assembly you say it's a rubber stamp that's quite very interesting and strange federal government bans direct sales of fam produced to foreigners there will be the crux of a conversation this morning as we proceed auto crash claims 20 lives in a door governor mahi deputy a lawmaker's appeal judgment second damn and be a lambastou mahi over utterances and the men's apology now you remember when uh the particular author saying the judgment is uh the judgment it's a jungle justice kind of judgment five yet dead in another headsman attack in benway and as you strike hope deems the federal government is sees the utas not better alternative to ipp is the sit this morning on the daily independent newspaper the punch has this lead headline bony's lawyers rebels colluded to procure judgment stopping convention l ruffa and the following riders bohari 19 governors behind bony's removal support for bello as new chair kaduna governor bony refused to implement reconciliation committee's recommendation alleges l ruffa and a pc governor stabbing sick bony in the back alleges can't take a secretary a panel do it again at the top of that front per each of five g telco's more phased rollout fear consumers weak purchasing power electoral bill malami amici barred from primaries senate rejects bohari's request of mrs said oh look at that matrita on the program f a hike looms over vision fuel price marked as predict 700 naira per letter god have mercy nba lambas umahi sak governor hires 18 senior advocates of nigeria to battle appeal 18 more from the punch senate passes bill proposing 2% recovered loot for anti-graft agencies csc disowns firm awarded 214.8 million dollar contract reps summon officials petro tanker explodes leagas filling station building burnt many homeless soldier detained for refusing to fight bokeh oram three bandits escaped from kogi detention i g moans as deputy inspector general slums dies in abuja lots of incomiums coming for that man nine killed many injured in a dole ogle road crashes bami shei reps ask federal government to investigate murder decry female killings mob lynches suspected on the motorcycle thief police arrest four and 16 security agents killed as bandit's attack keby deputy governor's convoy let's not bring in our guest analyst izik al-iyatouk at this time uh izik al-iyatouk did you at any time watch the nigerian sitcom uh fuji house of commotion because i would like to start with the internal running in the apc i don't know if you watched fuji house of commotion but i thought so what's what's going on um the move by governor sanny bellow and others in the in the parties is is being seen as a coup and i remember when the qamek rumah was was deposed as ghanian president he traveled out um is this a coup and your thoughts on what's going on aro fire said that 19 governors are behind this move uh bonisa governor is one of them so why is this happening i i i i see much deeper than the surface that we look at and what really bothers me is i can see a pc government and a correlation between what is going on and the nation as a whole because the party is like a microcosm of their mindset you know on on how they do things is you know in san farad san farad there was a problem where a apc was excluded as at today for seven years apc has not thought it necessary to just have a national chairman have a convention have a national chairman and just get on with your activities as at today not just the pdp but some of us in the alternate party we are waiting to go to the judgment to the supreme court as to whether a sitting governor can actually act on the position of a party chairman and lord have mercy if the answer is indeed negative it means that once there's a convention chaired by a governor and at that convention the presidential and candidate emerges and you know the process of election you know is such that somebody has to submit the names of the candidates to inek and if it comes to a judgment that the person who is a national chairman and the national secretary in the case of the the house of national assembly and the gov and the the governorship and the presidency if it so happens that the final judgment by the supreme court is that such a chairman having been a governor did not have the right to occupy the position of the national chairman of the party on account of which is sent the names to inek it plays a whole thing a nullity and that goes through the governor's ascent through the president ascent it means a pc will not be on the ballot and my simple question is why take seven years to be on that avoidable risk pdp quickly did their own and they got a chairman who is i mean why would a gov why will a governor who has so much work to do he cannot even finish the work of governing his state now want to be the national chairman of a party but the pdp also had the same situation with the governor but the current national working committee of the party was brought to into existence by convention organized by a group a ketika chairman adam on state governor you're not getting my point my point is that there is a provision in the constitution at bars public office holders from occupying executive positions in the party yes so the question i'm asking about if i can put it correctly is um is the pdp also in danger of falling foul of its law because the the processes are brought in this this national working committee was chaired by the adam on state governor no what inek knows is who signs the documents that come to me whatever you did in your party before now is not inek's business inek starts with the forms you have sent to me who signed them how the man got into office or did not get into office is is the party's issues but i have names before me signed by a man does he have the right the local standard to submit these names to me yes or no you understand me so how the man got into office is not a internal party problem which others can go to cut over but anek's problem is the signatures that i have are they authentic or not that's where the process starts and that is what really bothers me and my question is what is the wisdom in pushing this at such a risk knowing it has happened to you before zanfarah state you can forget so soon so to what extent does p a pc believe in being brazen and being audacious and being nonchalant about you know the law to what extent are they so bold that they believe they've got it in their pocket and i think it's something that really bothers me not just because of their party but the fact that they are in the nation are they taking similar risks concerning issues of state it's something that we need to think about and what what if boonee gets angry and decides you know what i'm going to defect to the pdp and then wiki gives him a call and says let's go let's go to court you know it might be another river state situation again trust me it is one reason that it's absolutely nonsensical it's let me just hit the way it is it is not necessary why can't if you cannot put yourself together in seven years seven years why why how do you expect is it what's happening a pc is i think there's some kind of faith colonists you know within the home and i want people to just empty their minds and wait because 2023 is going to be a different volume altogether look at one two three things that have happened number one is the electoral act 2022 take time and study that electoral act there are things that could only come through god could only come through god secondly what happened yesterday where the national where the senate unanimously said mr president we're sorry we aren't going to do this for you things are starting level down the change and 2023 forget about whether they are small parties they are big parties you know what makes a party today if tinu go defects to a a gc it becomes a big party overnight overnight you don't need one year you don't need five years look at a man like punk was so he picked up pp a nn pp within a week that he thought to not exist in party became a national talk so let people just free their minds and just relax forget about time many moves are going to happen especially as concerning a pc and 2023 is going to be something different from people like what people are used to so um as you can yeah i took uh with all that's going on today's the 10th of march and the convention for the epises slated for the 26th of march do you see uh that convention happening anytime yeah yeah yeah the the convention is going to happen but it is at the convention that things are going to fall apart because the convention holds the key to which faction is going to have access to the structure of the party you know we all know this that a pc is an amalgam oh i don't know what to call it it's it's it's fair it's you know in in you have either physical or how do i put it that's very easy to understand you know think if you have sand and stone you understand me you can pick out the sand you can pick out the stone you understand but they are setting mixtures that you cannot they've jailed and they've become you know it's like water and gary hot water and gary once you put it they become you know red red you can't separate them but if you carry glass and carry stone you can pick them now a pc has refused to become hot water and gary they have remained stone and glass in which case at the convention there's going to be a separation very neat separation because the the part that loses out is going to seek self-landing and then they're going to come to us in agc and say guys let's work together they may remain in the party to play the fifth columnist role they may remain in the party to wait for the dying minute they may remain in the party to enjoy the loot of office to enjoy the pek of office to know the game plan and then at election all it needs is like two weeks to election you see mass defection you see mass meanwhile there are no tonally you know i know how many of them are talking to me as an individual i know because maybe you remember of agc but you see in politics you don't just open your mouth and start to talk you've got to just keep it the way it is yeah what will be will be exactly i took are we not forgetting in a hurry what happened to the pdp only just recently a few months ago um of course um the way mana in which um uh uchi second was removed from office quite controversial he went to court we had judgments you know conflicting judgments from courts of coordinate jurisdiction in different parts of the country um nothing pulled the party down the party's still standing and the governor of the party took the reins of the party led by um former speaker of the house of representatives they handed the party over to a ketika uh chairman in the person of um amado umaru fintiri governor of adama state who as a governor um organized the convention of the party which produced your chair you um nothing has happened like they say nothing's bought the party's still moving on so are we not forgetting the recent history um and can we not not draw from this a pdp expert to say nothing will happen all your fears may i'll tell you yes i'll tell you two things first is that i mean i would call a foundation i was i'd been a foundation member of the pdp in 2007 i contested the governorship on the platform of the pdp somewhere along the line i became the chairman of world and local government congress committee of the pdp to one of the state which is one of the highest responsibilities you can perform in the party because you go there to set up the structure of the party in a state is a major function about 36 or 37 of you in the whole country i was one of them that's same there's something about the pdp that if they learned the lesson early enough there's something the pdp is homogeneous the pdp is relatively together and they have been consistently so from the beginning till now the pdp has set in you know called followership in certain areas people that you've lived with people that you work with party that you've seen as your own it is they are not being wise and strategic strategic that allow setting key people like a large kuan kua so to live you know they are sometimes maybe arrogant about saying things it doesn't matter they extended that arrogance and lost the presidency because by times five governors are leaving you and say it doesn't matter then means you've around allowed that that a brazenness to get into your brain which is what apc is doing now let's go to record it doesn't matter it matters so pdp has that advantage of being like a chemistry they are together so to speak so that things can tilt one side and they can recover but apc does not have that history does not have that that that capacity does not have that privilege of of pdp and secondly pdp has a way of being smart they saw this coming they nipped it in the board they addressed it before time now they accepted to face a lecture okay now apc on the other hand have just let it linger at the conversion which is just about two weeks away my calculation is right you will see what will happen and that time is less than four months to primaries is that the time for you to go and start to talk of reconciliation when you know you've lost the structure there's no reconciliation reconciliation means what you're going to give me back the structure no in a quite bone for instance there was a time that they had three chairman each of them had their list you know downline downline downline if you allow that to happen at the end of the day you pick one you know the end of the senator odore there now there's a man like us will have fabio is in that camp if he's not in that camp what is he going to do with all the people in his camp hand over to you know senator odore there assuming he's giving the ticket or say guys we've weighed our strength let's go to agc in yato come let's talk how do we do these things and they see our strength see their strength politics is a game of interest it's not religion in nigeria politics is not religion it's audio the closest to politics being religion is pdp but they are not strategic the rest is like game of interest they can move in and move out anywhere anytime any day anyhow okay so i think that pdp case cannot be compared with that of apc for the simple reason that the ideological underpinning of membership are not in the same direction pdp right apc right now is strictly interest hundred percent interest but a pdp has some level of you know sentiment and attachment to it which can help in terms of crisis apc does not have that liberty and that luxury and that privilege as i can yeah i took let's let's look at the leadership newspaper this morning and this is really sad because yesterday i saw some of these pictures that were being displayed and you could see the the men of the nigerian army i mean dressed in their attire just lying lifeless and you know it saddens me so we have this report saying bandits killed 13 soldiers and fight policemen in keby the question here is is the security architecture of the country being overwhelmed at the time by bandits uh you know for a little while they seem to have been some level of quiet and um people are moving so much into politics and all that so the bandits are at such a time also restrategizing and from time to time they strike they are setting things in a thinking government that never give way to politics never never never one of such fundamentals is what you call the national security and if you notice for almost seven years from the admin from from the inception of this administration the issue of ban between you know and you know the terrorism has been on the front burner so politicians cannot expect that it would just because of politics you know go like that so i expected the presidency to have been on top of the game at all times making sure that even when politics is going on the issue of national security is top priority at all times i think that the the the in my opinion um there had been a case of taking the the foot off the pedal a little bit but you see that said recently um governor el rufai has said something very very very vehemently he said no these guys they will group and regroup they will strike and restrike it is their business just like politics is our business so if they are a problem to us find a permanent solution whatever it is there's going to be collateral damages now that they've been called terrorists it helps in the rules of engagement but ever since they were declared terrorists what one action have you seen taking that will now put the the the the the hit on this on these people instead what you've seen is everybody facing politics politics politics and i think this is a wake up call it pains me as as as as a father as a husband as a brother to see those lifeless bodies because they are people's husbands people's fathers people's breadwinners and and we need to feel the life of everybody not only those that are protected but those who put themselves in in ham's way to protect us i think that this government owes not not not just an apology but they owe it to to the military to those people at the front lines to to show that their lives matter that's where i would like to end at this point because it's very emotional and and very very um okay annoying all right all right uh very understandable at that it's okay i took let's um get back to the politics um either to david umahi uh who's been you know either to cool calm and collected david umahi i mean never had him say anything wrong in public never had him attack anyone just cool um but he's proven to us that every man has a breaking point um because of the adjectives that he's used to describe justice of the federal high court in abuja um what would not have expected that one of the things he said was that um uh the judgment that sacked him as governor of abuja state was bought he's had some very um um very very charitable things to say about the justice even though he's the judge even though he's apologized and says that he would never insult the judiciary but the records are there as to what david umahi has said the front page of the punch in history has his headline um nba lambas gubahi sacked governor has 18 senior advocates of nigeria to battle appeal and what this story is saying is that the nigeria bar association on wednesday lambasted the aboying state government david mahi for attacking just this in air court offer the federal high court who sacked him on tuesday uh and his deputy as well um he said that um anyway among allegations the governor had alleged that the judgment by a court was bought but while criticizing their adjectives adjectives used on the judge by the governor the nba said umahi's outburst amounted to impunity and executive riskality taking too far so we see the nba having a major uh uh say in national issues but also uh give us your thoughts on that and also the fact that uh umahi has had 18 senior advocates of nigeria for his appeal okay let me start from the bottom to the front what is the bottom he's hired 18 senior advocates he might as well hire 50 it is not his money it's a boy people's money and he needs to know that it was a constitutional that he swore to to be able to defend uh the resources of the people that's number one number two i do a lot of mentoring particularly of young people and one of the things i tell young ladies in relationship is when a guy is nice nice nice find a way to do something absorbed something ridiculous find a way to do something that will bring out the real him for you to know wow and the same thing you know goes the other way because it's easy to play cool and nice until you hit the nerves and when you get married one way or the other you're gonna hit the nerves and all of a sudden you discover that this guy you thought was just ascending a gentler as a lamb gives you the slap of your life and you're like what okay so you've got to know at the height of provocation what sort of best thing is this person and it goes into our leadership recruitment when we how much do we know about the people we want to see as our governors or as our president what do we know how much do we know what do we understand what was the breaking point of of of this person that you are supporting what do you know about this person i think that what um um um um is an apology is something that even at the height of provocation and nothing is that our public office holders need to be coached at all times they need to be coached and know that there are utterances you know i think it was Shakespeare i'm not too sure that said word spoken cannot be unspoken you need to know that and as a public office holder you don't have that liberty of saying anything you want anyhow you want anywhere you want you can't have that liberty you are representing so many people millions of people you are the face of your state as are today i can't even talk anyhow because as a mentor where a lot of young people look up to they are saying things and are not expecting of me not to talk of when you become the governor of a state and then you say unprintable things because you were provoked no i always tell people say politics a debt scheme i say no politics is a magnifier politics is my profile it gives you opportunity to show who you really are it gives you opportunity for you to really display who you are if i play my net person you are a play my net person even in office in all things that you do so politics not a debt game politics gives you the capacity that that that latitude that space for you to really show who you really are and i think that umai when this thing hit him personally he lost all his cool he let down his guard and he showed who he really really really is and for somebody who wants to be a president i'll tell you that he couldn't have had a bigger dent than that nationally and it was a stage that he had to show he was a statesman he was one who believes in rule of law one who says this is not my people cool down these are the steps i'm taking and not to say it's important i listen to it and man i was appalled because it's not it's not a statement that anybody could make not to talk of a governor against the judiciary you can't do that now he's going back to meet those guys they will say bros bring the money share with them buy you they buy us come and buy us well you know even those that are going to defend them they know that this is a man that called us all thieves and all the people that are going to defend him we are going to be looking at them as a i as i how much they don't collect how much they don't pay because the man believes that you can't get justice except you pay for it so i think that him he's in for a rough ride and only god can help him at this point in time thank you very much exactly i took um like someone said another one bites the dust well um we'll keep watching um what happens in in all the stories you've talked about be it fuji house or commotion or any other one but i want to thank you very much for your time very incisive and expert analysis is given to us as usual we're exciting and uh we're glad to have had you this morning thank you so much god bless the two of you and all of us and i i'm sure mesia's taking note of that advice you gave on testing the man who proposed to her but i don't know what i i i subscribe to that but i i think your mercy is taking note is very important no i hope you're not the suspect well i i i will talk about that behind the scenes but um um mesia i saw her just scribbling something down well when you said that test the man so as i can hear her thank you so much for being part of the show we do appreciate i mean it's always a delight to hear you share your thoughts and all of this nationally for something you do well thank you well that's the size of this morning of the press we will return with of the press tomorrow and it would be the last for the week but um it's been very interesting if you're asked with a conversation on the top relationship advice comment on the press you don't you don't necessarily that's not necessarily but we have to take a breakdown when we return we'll be looking at our first major conversation i mean the federal government banning sales and fan produce to foreigners not uh it doesn't have to be direct right now there will have to be a middleman that would be the crux of our conversation when we return well in the meantime let's tell you what happened today in history been the tenth day the month of march please stay with us