 I'm looking at it as a pyramid because you're building up to something incredible. Your discovery level is Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, and YouTube produced videos. That's where people find you. And then you use your live streaming is the next layer of that where people get to hang out with you and listen to you for a little while and ask you a few questions. And then your Discord servers that next layer of the pyramid that people come in and you're getting to know them and that trust is being built. And then from there, you can look at your courses, your workshops, your memberships, whatever the model is for you to show them the value. Hey, I'm giving you something you can't get anywhere else. This level of knowledge, this level of engagement, let's get together and let's talk a lot. And there's a whole bunch of other people just like you waiting for you in my Discord server. Everything has its place, but for me, a Discord server is a great place to be right at the top where you're ready to just get super serious about your relationship with your members.