 The more senior you become in an organization, you have this tyranny of distance between the ranks and it presents challenges to leadership and that's kind of what you guys are talking about and that's what kind of Mass Chief Compton is speaking about and when they say open door policies and all these kinds of things, they're trying to bridge that gap in the tyranny of distance between the ranks because communication is a critical, absolute critical element for any organization to be effective and when you open up your door and sailors see it open and you're sitting there and you got this positive attitude, maybe with a smile on your face, I don't know how Mass Chief Compton said that's how I do and sailors walk by and they may or may not have something on their mind and if they do and they see that positive leader sitting there, they're probably more inclined to stop and have a conversation and it's important for the leader to be mindful of sometimes it's okay to never say anything in that meeting, sometimes sailors just want you to listen to them, they just want to get things off the chest, whatever it may be and they may even have an issue and you can sit there and listen to them for 15, 20 minutes and by the time what they think is a conversation and really it's just them talking, they've worked them their way all the way through whatever the concern may be and they're leaving with a smile on their face and all we have to do as leaders is say thanks, glad I could be here for you and that young sailor goes out and they walk the deck plate now with a smile on their face with a positive attitude which is infectious and an organization and then they share hey guys got anything going on go see chief whomever go see the Mass Chief or go see the CO you know whoever you need to sit down and talk to or that divoth that helped mentor you along the way their pales are young you know I heard somebody say a long time ago and I believe it was quoted from Winston Churchill really they said courage is what it takes to stand up and speak but courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen and that's what I'm mindful of as a leader as we try to figure out this and continue to improve our communication across the ranks in our Navy and that's probably been you know one of the biggest challenges the more senior you become in an organization to ensure you're leveraging and communicating with with our our our leaders under us to make sure that the things that pales are young has on his mind and the questions that that he wants to ask and the concerns that he has for for himself and his fiancee Lindsey we're addressing so so those are kinds of you know some of the challenges we face as leaders