 Good morning. Happy Saturday. Happy Saturday. Yes, St. Patrick's Day Eve. Exactly. And welcome, welcome to Sandy who's joining us this morning. I am the Appalachian villain. That's right. That's right. Mags couldn't, Mags couldn't be here. So we asked, we needed our Appalachian quoting, so. Hi. Complete with neon sign behind. And he did a biscuits and gravy for breakfast. I'm jealous. Well, it's great to see so many people in the chat already. Audrey Martin gets gets the award for arriving first. And we got D Spencer Carr from Georgia. Susan Anderson from Los Angeles. Brian Nash from Canada. Crystal James. Christine Miller. Yoke. Tuning in from the Netherlands and another Canadian, Lisa Gervais. Hi, David Randall from Texas. And oh, two Texans, two Dallas folks, because Mark Lemon is also from Dallas. Judy Stutz, John Tyner from Ireland, and Chris Wine. Hi, Chris. And Susie Carter, Gail Martin, and Shelley Monson, who I had the pleasure of meeting in person. That was, that was so much fun. I know Shelley gave us a play by play of her roots experience too. We loved it. It was, it was funny. We kept bumping into each other all over the exhibit hall. It was really, and we would update each other on what we've been doing since the last time. Great Patrick Holland is here. We're going to celebrate one of his ancestors, Chris Ferriolo of Florian. Thank you for joining us. Good afternoon from the Black Forest. Kathy Bauer from Virginia. Doris Lanier from Indiana. Let's see, did I miss anyone? Sharon Haynes, Alabama. Nice. Yeah, I got Gail. Aaron Stewart, Ruth Selman from London. I love how international are crowd. I'm not from London, Ontario, but it's probably London, England. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe Ruth could clarify. We got June Butka from New Hampshire, where it's sunny. And we do have Robert Cowan definitely from England, Dorset. And Chris notes that you're wearing TARDIS blue. All about the TARDIS today, buddy. Vick Thor, good time zone. Yoke is wondering, is that a moonshine bottle behind Sandy? It is a moonshine jug, and there's pickle moonshine in that jar. This is a dry month for me, so it's still there. Let's see, Patti LaPlante from Puget Sound, and Ruth Clarified, it is London, UK. Okay, and Patrick, it's his first time joining live. Thank you and welcome. Nice. All right. That's great. Yeah, 42 people. Awesome. Yes. Well, we're very grateful that you decided to join us, Sandy. And so we start off with a question of the week. So that means that we're going to put you right to work. Okay, okay. So let me just share my screen. So if everybody has been to GGG this week, and it looks like quite a few people have been the question of the week, let me make this a little bit bigger for everybody, is if you've taken a DNA test, what is your DNA ethnicity? And I would actually like to hear a little bit from the people that are in Europe or outside of the US that have not taken a DNA test. And why? Because in some places, France, for example, you cannot. So in other places, I've been told, well, we already know we've lived here our whole life. It's you Americans that are kind of the muts and curious about what your ethnicity is. So I'm kind of curious to see those that are outside of DNA testing have not DNA tests. You haven't. So this question probably is going to be a challenge for you. But for example, myself, this has been a big topic for me in the past six months specifically. As you is probably a lot of you have seen, and I'm going to guess, and you guys confirm this with me, the reason why you probably took a DNA test was because of a commercial that had later housing, lasagna, you know, a kilt, you know, going on and on and on and on. And guess what? We're talking about ethnicity. When you see those commercials, we're talking about that's what that is. So you didn't take probably the DNA test to realize that, oh, I need to find exact DNA matches with this person and this person. That's the outcome. That's cool outcome of DNA. But the impetus, the reason why you probably thought, hmm, do I wear later housing? Do I wear a brain love fondue? Or am I going to wear a kilt? And that's marketing too. And I want to point that out because as we talk about ethnicity, we're not talking about race. And I think that's important to to mention as we go through. So let's talk a little bit about everybody's answers. I'm thrilled that people answered this. And I want everybody to know this is fluid. This will change. It does change. If you took a DNA test towards the beginning, what those results say then and now completely different. And also company to company is going to also give you complete differences. And I think we're going to see that as we go through some of these answers. So for Mandy, first, right up the top, she gave us my heritage and ancestry. And it's kind of cool to see her mix between the two. Different, right? Very, very different from what it's going through. So keep in mind that there's a couple things going on. Number one, remember, we mentioned that it's fluid is going to change. And also different companies handle things differently as well. I find ancestry is probably the best for me personally. What about you two? Do you find one better than the other? Well, I've only tested ancestry. And I feel that since they have the largest testing base, that's probably good for me. But if I were to test elsewhere, I might do my heritage because I know that they have more of a European based pool. What about you, Greg? I think ancestry at least was originally was more accurate because they did have they did break down France as well. Whereas my heritage, I'm pretty sure it was my heritage didn't have France as one of their groups. They didn't they just didn't have enough samples to so it was all European, you know, and so it was it was a mix. So you couldn't tell even though after the results, I realized that my whole maternal side is it was pure French French Canadian and back to France. So, you know, getting close to 45, 49% French would have been what I was expecting. And I didn't see that into my heritage. And I thrilled that you've mentioned that because, you know, you have shared your journey along the way as well as being adopted. And for those of you that know me, I am an MPE. So I was trying to find my heritage as well. And when we talk about ethnicity, we're really talking about more cultural. And that was a way for me to break some walls along with DNA. And so I'm thrilled that you mentioned that because probably during your journey as well as mine, we're using this as a tool to kind of dig around and find our ancestors for those that we didn't know whether you were adopted or an MPE is a tool, you know, your DNA is going to be much better than for results than your ethnicity. But it's kind of cool. It's still kind of cool. The one piece that is consistent between all the tests that I haven't tracked down is there's like a five or 6% Nordic. It's either Sweden or Norway or something. And I don't know, but I, you know, I've got a good chunk that are in England. And so that could very well have been Vikings coming over coming down. Because I think one of the things we heard on one of the roots text talk, and I think one of the counts was that these ethnicity results ethnicity, I know Megs has an issue with that specific wording for it. A lot of this is based on, you know, where your family, your DNA came from, you know, hundreds and hundreds of years ago, like, you know, a long time, like before the genealogical timeframe. So some of these result like that Nordic amount on my part is probably, you know, way back 1300 or something. Yeah. And I have the same thing. I mean, of course, I'm 50% Chinese. And then a lot of the great, great Britain, British Isles, and then 2% Scandinavian. If Brezzy brings in another good thing that I want to point out, and I promise we're going to get some of these answers, but Brezzy brings in a really, really good point that when everybody to know that this is based off data samples as well. So if a particular location does not test, and that's why I was curious to see those of you in your example that did not test and beyond, why, why did you not test? I saw somebody say there was a privacy reason. That's a really good one. That's general. But if you do not have a large population DNA testing, you're not going to get more exact. And we see that a lot with the black Americans that are starting to test African Americans are starting to test. They're trying to get to a specific location, but you also need those locations, those specific locations to test. So, okay, let's go through some of these. These are really, really cool. And as a matter of fact, this next answer talks about Bonnie's answer talks a little bit about Krista's talk that was average. No, perfect. And what was interesting about this answer, which was really great, is that you see that she's actually tracking down who she believes this estimate came from. That's neat. And then we have Alexis that has the percentage, and you'll see a lot of England and Northwestern Europe, Scotland, you'll see a lot of that because Ancestry has a lot of samples. This is why most people believe Ancestry is probably the best for this topic. A lot of samples. They have the market covered there. We're able to break out Wales and Ireland as well. And then Jamie, this was a good example, too, where she used it. It looks like to figure out her own heritage. And it's a great tool to kind of try and see. If you've always been told, for example, in my case, that you were German, and you start looking at your estimates, and you look at your tree that has the sources. Keep that in mind. You look at your tree that has the sources and you're seeing that ethnicity not really tracing back to pure Germany. Look at, as Greg said, look at the timeframe. We're talking back. Germany wasn't Germany at that point. So I need to expand my terms of what I'm using. So keep in mind that this is fun. This is great. This is a tool. And it also helps you figure out what Halloween costume you might wear, right? And Eric, I think, gave a lot of great, I love this one, too. So this comes from my heritage. It looks like a lot of people doing Ancestry my heritage. Did a lot of people upload for free your DNA to my heritage? I think that's still going on where normally $29. And I think because of roots, it's free this month. I think people were mentioning that in the chat after I mentioned wanting to do it. And jog my memory. I might have done that a long time ago. You know, Logan, I actually just did it for my husband. His his paddock line does not have any matches. It goes back to the ice age. So if he did a big Y does not have any matches. So I thought as Betsy has said, my heritage has more European hopeful something will come up that way. Okay, this is great. So we have a lot of details here. Who gave me this? This is Jason. So we have Ancestry and you can see how the differences are and then how it's broke down. And this is again, this is because each company is going to handle it a little bit different. A lot of people really, really like living DNA. A lot of us pro gens will use this a lot as well. And if we cannot figure out an unknown parentage or or something along the line, we'll do Ancestry and living DNA as well. And coming through. Yeah, but a living DNA is the way they can break down like really specific in England. Like, yeah, that's really impressive to get that specific. And it depending again, how far your relationship goes back. I know that for example, my sister-in-law has some family in Italy. So she's trying to break down a brick wall. We got down to Sicily. And then with the updates, because updates seem to be about once a year now, we got it to a little island off of Sicily. So years ago, it was just whole big Italy. And we're starting to get down. So this is why this, as Greg said, you're able to get to specifics. And if you dig into your particular Ancestry, they'll show you communities. You guys are private communities. I can tell you that every community I have my Ancestry says Appalachian, a Northern Appalachian, Central Appalachian, West Virginia settlers. But those are important tools as you're going through and looking through your tree and trying maybe to find a brick wall and break it down. I love these results. You guys are great giving us all these results. This is interesting. Coptic addition. And then we've got a Northern Chinese and Tibetan. So that's really interesting. Wow. Seeing some of this is a really interesting mix, Patty. And for those of you that are Europe, we do call ourselves in America the melting pot. And as you can see where you are. But Greg, what about Canada? Is Canada a little bit of a melting pot too? It is. Yeah. Yeah. You'll see similar results up here. Yeah. My own is pretty boring because it is basically England, Ireland, Scotland, and France. With that little wee sliver of Nordic, which I haven't traced down, but so I'm pretty boring in that regard. We're going to get you the Viking hat with the hat. And you're going to wear that in one of the hangouts. I like Eric's answer too that there is a variety of results across the way. And I agree with that. And for him, he kind of agrees too that ancestry is the most accurate. But again, why? Because ancestry tests. They have so many tests that are in there. That's kind of why they're doing it. A shout out to Chris as well. And I know he mentioned it in the chat. When I talked about my sister-in-law breaking down that Italian brick wall, Frank and Chris, during Wiki Tree Day Research Party, along with Azure, broke down a brick wall by using that DNA estimates in Italian. So that was pretty cool too. And I like how Chris says that his mom's side shows a little bit different and his dad's side is just the same. He's Italian. He's 100% Italian. So keep that in mind when you're looking. I tend to look at ethnicity as at grandparents level. That's my starting point. But really, really great answers. And of course, I have to show too. Yes, I'm proud of that. Of course. This is from Judy. And as you can see, we have a mix. And because the ethnicity has changed, the results in the DNA have changed, we can find out before it used to just say Northwest Europe, you know, long time ago. But now we can break it down a little bit more. And we have a lot of Italians, a lot of Welsh, and a lot of Scots and Irish as well that came to Appalachia. So thank you, Judy, for putting that. But look how different the results are. I mean, they're really kind of amazing when you look at this. And some of them get really, really specific. And then we talked about the communities that she's in. These really help you as far as tracing down brick walls, MPEs, if you're adoptees, things of that nature. So now, Betsy, we got to see if you've uploaded to my heritage, because I am really, really curious to see what your my heritage would look like. And I'm just going to go through a couple of these. As you see, there's a lot of answers. I'm so sorry, Mags isn't here. This is right up her alley. She didn't gain ethnicity. So I hope I do are proud with kind of bringing it out and letting everybody know this was cool. Okay, so Christie, my biggest surprise. And remember, I said, I started my grandfather's my biggest surprise is that my paternal grandparent of father's parents are both full German heritage. And you never know until you start digging into your DNA. So once you have this, then you start looking at your tree and your sources, and you combine this with those sources, because this is not a source. This is a clue, but not a source. Right. But you can use it to confirm the genealogy and the source. Yeah. And this is how I actually chainsawed my tree from German and it ended up being French. As we were talking about, you got to go way back for some of these ethnicities and realize what's going on. And I got to give a shout out to a lot of people that did help me with this because I started questioning. And so when you look at this, and if you're not sure what your ethnicity is, well, question it. Look at your sources. Look at your tree. Family stories. Everybody wants to be a Scott, right? And we're killed. That's where those commercials came from. And then if you notice those commercials change and they start having later hosem. We started talking about vino and lasagna and those commercials. So if you watch those commercials, that's kind of giving you a hint of the marketing and what tests they're getting in or tests they wanted as they go through. And this one was fascinating because as she goes through, there's so many differences here to look at and try to use the clue. So if you look at this, I feel ancestry is probably going to be the closest one to look at first to try and determine your ancestry, your brick walls, your family. But I love this too because she, it looks like we also have a little bit of Native American. And that's the other thing, right? Everybody wants to be a Native American in the United States. So I won't say what it is, but everybody wants to be related to Pocahontas or something like that. And I will tell you, if you want to get a little bit more into that, you'll need to explore GEDmatch for that. Which that's how you link your DNA to WikiTree. You have to go through GEDmatch. I guess there are other ways, but that's the most popular way. And it's a great tool. I love it because then people can just click on it. Come straight to my WikiTree page and see. And also, if you're at WikiTree, you listed your GEDmatch so people can click there and compare. And then you use something like the ethnicities to start comparing. And what does the ethnicities help you with in that? It helps you show, is it parental or is it maternal side? And then you can instantly, hopefully, start eliminating some tree. Okay, that kind of went through the ethnicity part. There we go. Oh, thank you guys for letting me use you as examples as well. Great examples with the greatness of how to explain the samples that are out there as well and break down the walls. It's fascinating. It is. Yeah. You can definitely get down the rabbit hole on this one. Yes. I mean, that was one of my highlights of Ruth Tech. Ruth's Tech. There were many, but getting to meet Peter Roberts with Mr. DNA. Yes. I mean, he sat down with me and just spent a good 40 minutes looking at my DNA. And then every time I turned around, he was sitting down with somebody else. He's amazing. Yeah. That's the power of WikiTree too. If you see him in person or just reach out, I know that I've reached out to Peter a couple of times early on and with the mito DNA saying, help me. Figure out what I'm doing. That's the power of WikiTree. Everybody's so helpful. A lot of people get nervous with DNA. Don't. There's people that can help with WikiTree, trust me. Yeah. That's great. Thanks, Sandy. And lots of great, great comments in the chat, more than I could highlight. The last one that I put up from Yoke, I thought was a really good to focus on the cousin matches. That will really help you do triangulation and narrowing. That's a great tool that I use all the time for the DNA confirmation, but time saver. Yeah. Good. So I have to leave a little bit early for school this morning. So we're going out of order and we'll start with photos. And actually there's a very strong photo theme to a lot of what I'm going to talk about this morning. The tips. I have two tiny tips and they both have to do with photos. But let's start out with photo of the week or photo of the month. So our theme is, for March, is sport. And we have this series of photos from John Thompson. I'm trying to make it a little bigger. Is that good, a good size? Looks good. Yep. Look at those fish. Nice. I know. I like, well, they're all at attention there. This is a great one. And he says 1930s sport fishing for rainbow trout and pokening at O'Connigan Lake, British Columbia, Canada. In conversations with my father, he spoke of trolling deep in the wintertime to catch some big ones. O'Connagon. Wow. Do you know? Have you been? Great. I think we may have driven through or by close to the O'Connagon when we went on a motorhome trip with our family when we were a little younger. Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful. It is. It is. Thank you, John. And then let's see. Oh, this one. Yes. Who do we? Am Ross. This is her first cousin, Charles, playing cricket on the beach while his little sisters play in the background. And says that he's still a cricket fanatic, regularly spends five entire weekends or five days for the international contests called test matches, watching cricket matches at the Boston Cricket Ground in Warwickshire, England. He has season tickets. Amazing. He looks quite, I'm looking at the expression on his face, just intense concentration. I love it. What a great photo it is, too. I know. I know. Adorable. So thank you, Am. So our tip of the week, well, I said there are two. So this one comes thanks to Azure Robinson. And so this is a free app that you can add on to your browser that will allow you to tag people in photos, similar to what you would do on Instagram. So it was developed by a wiki tree year, Julian Laffy. Go a little smaller now. And I think it's about four years old. Did I? Okay. There's Julian. Oh, nice. And so here's an example of what this would do. And I hope you can see I've added the, I've added it. It's up there. And it says tag the people in this photo. And this is one from one of Azure's profiles. Is it showing? Do you see the pop-up? Yes. Right. So we can see it. Dora Jones. Yep. And then Willard. That is so cool. I know. Now, the one thing that I discovered is that you have to, both people have to have the app, the extension. So you have to have the extension in order to tag people. And then, like Greg, if I tag people, but you don't have the extension, you're not going to be able to see my tag. I won't see the tagging. Yeah. But it was very easy. And it is wonderful. Now, well, I'm going to do do something with a photo and tag it. So you can see here are two of my uncles. And they're very close in age. And it would be good to tag them. I mean, I know who is older. And so for me, that's our problem. So I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to click tag people in this photo. And I'm going to select the name of the person I want to tag. And then just click on his face. And now, just click on the face. Yeah. Just click on the face. Okay. And then, and there we have it. There's, they should be, oh, and I said, I have to say done tagging, save. Now, it's going to put this code down in the comments for the photo, which doesn't make, isn't really meaningful unless you're a programmer. And questions have come up for Julian on the extension page about, oh, do I really need this? And yes, you need this in order for it to work. Can you archive that in social? Oh, that's a good question. Well, let's see it work first. And then, yeah, you can always unarchive, right? Yeah, it breaks it. So there's, there, we've got them tagged. And let's go ahead and archive as Sandy suggests archive. And yeah, it still works. So good call on that. Thank you. You're right, because they, they are so similar in age. And it's similar looking at this age as well, but tagging them is so helpful. Yeah. So this is, this is a wonderful tool that I thought and everyone should know about. Yes, everybody install it, use it, because then we can see the tags. It's called the wiki tree turbo extension. Yeah, let me, I'll go back to the, oh, and share that tab instead. I can put a link in the chat for everybody. I put the name of it, but you can put the link in wiki tree turbo. So by chance, do we know if this works on max? I'm on a max. You were as good, didn't you, Greg? Well, the question is, will it work on Safari? Yeah, because it'll work on the chrome. Right, right. I don't know. Hmm. Okay. Let us know. So second tip, someone had, now this is a throwback tip, because I have done this one before, but somebody asked in the celebrate your ancestor G2G thread, how do you insert a photo within a G2G message? And I thought that that's just a, that question comes up a lot. And I thought it would be good to just review that. So you go to the photo that you want to insert. And now I'm going to show you here on a slide, because otherwise you won't be able to see. You click, right click on the photo, and you're going to get this pull down menu. And what you're going to do is you're going to copy the image address. And you're going to see there's, I've done this before, there's lots of things you can copy, link address, or copy the image, make sure you're copying the image URL. And that's just going to go into your clipboard. So what I'm going to do now, I'll come back over here. And I'm going to, I'm going to take my word for it. I'm, I'm going to copy the image address. And now, if I go over here, and I go to wiki tree and G2G, I'm going to ask a question, how to insert photo in post. Okay. So here I am. And I've got my, my draft of the, the post. And what you want to do is you want to go to the little icon that's like a photo, you're going to click on it. And then what you're going to do is you're going to, wait a minute, let me, there we go. Okay. We're, it's a little bit hidden, but I'm going to paste that right in there. Now you're going to see all this Latin. Do not panic. Ignore the Latin. Yes. Go over here and you're going to play with the width. I usually do somewhere between 300 and 400. And I let the height be, be what it's going to be. Um, you do have the, I'm not going to get into the weeds with, with these settings, but if you do wish to, to set it left or right, you have this option down here with alignment. And there you go. There, there is my post. Nice. And then I can just return and put my, whatever my text is. That's a great tip. You could do that every month. Because they're new people all the time. And it's tricky. Yeah. Yeah, it is. There is, it's, it's not intuitive. So great. So there we have that. I'm going to come over to celebrate your ancestors with a connection to March. And we have three ancestors to celebrate today. So the first is, the wiki-trier is Patrick Holland, who I know is with us in the chat. First time Saturday roundup attendee. Welcome, welcome. And his, this is his second cousin three times removed. And his name was Robert Peele Glenville Blatchford, born March 17th. So tomorrow is his birthday, 1851 in Maidstone, Kent. And he's a notable connection. You can see that he's got quite a lot of connections and very, very interesting biography. He was, I says his father was a strolling comedian. His mother was an actress and his maternal great grandmother was Italian musician and publisher, Domenico Cori. Oh, I say great grandmother, great grandfather. Yeah. So he was named for the conservative prime minister Robert Peele, who had died the year before. And you may have heard the term Bobbys or Pealers. I had heard Bobbys, but both of those names, nicknames for British police came from the prime minister, Robert Peele. But this, this Robert Peele Blatchford was an English socialist campaigner, journalist and author in the United Kingdom, who's also noted as a prominent atheist, nationalist and opponent of eugenics. Also turned towards spiritualism after he lost his wife in the early 1920s. So this is just a very thorough, impressive biography, well worth a read. I certainly can't, can't go through everything. He served in the military and then served time brushmaking. Like maybe Patrick could clarify what brushmaking is. Like a fuller brushman, you know, something like that. Part of his military career? Or the military career? We have the military career here and where, where he served. And then he left the army to become a clerk in the Weaver Navigation Company. That's an interesting, what does weaving have to do with navigation? Well, it might have been the Weaver family. I'm wondering what job his father had as a strolling comedian. Like, what do you do? You walk down the street and make jokes? Is that your, is that your career? Like, he's someone's stilts too, you know. A cross between a jester and a strolling violinist, I'm not sure. There you go, making brushes. Oh, where is that? In the chat. Oh, okay. Patrick himself answered. So we have the censuses and a collection of wonderful photos and his publications and a hearty list of sources to back it all up. So very, very interesting and thank you for sharing your, your cousin with us, Patrick. I love a profile of photos. Oh, yeah, me too. Yeah. That's great. Yeah. And seeing those tables reminds me that last week when we talked about the tables, right, because the person whose profile or who created the profile actually did a nice G to G post and how she created those tables without the borders. Right. That was Shonda Feathers. Yeah. Wasn't that nice? Yes. Because we were, we were quite interested in that. Maybe, maybe I will link that in this week's G to G on the roundup. So yeah. Yeah. Now our next, our next ancestor to celebrate is Kimberly Lottos, great grandfather. And he was, he, his name was David, but he didn't really use David. He, he actually preferred to go by his middle name Manley and or use the initial D, D Manley Price. And he was born March 9, 1869 in Wellsville, New York, and also my distant cousin, as you can see. So he was an engineer. And I was writing to, to Kimberly that this is, this is just a beautifully eloquently written profile. She has lots of very personal little details. I think there have been some, seems like there were some family history books already written within her family. And she, she was able to draw on memories of his two daughters. And it really brings his story to life. He was deeply involved in the railroad ancestry industry, from, from childhood, because his, well, it says he originally wanted to become a doctor, but he lived his entire life surrounded by people, sounds and rhythms of the railroad. And I'll just read this paragraph because I thought it was so, so evocative. She continues from infancy, the reassuring call of the steam whistle and the chuff chuff of pistons lulled him to sleep. He was intimate with a sour smell and tang of burning coal. And he often felt the kiss of steam clouds billowing down the tracks. Who is to say he did not long to drive a locomotive as soon as he understood that those great beasts could be driven. So yeah, I know. That's amazing. It really is. I, I encourage everybody to go and sit down with a cup of tea and read this, this profile. And we have some very nice pictures. And it's interesting not just from his personal history, but also just history of the railroad in America, you know, the second half of the 19th century. And that's a good tip. I always tell people, if you do not know the person and you cannot fill out a biography, give a little history where they lived or a little history of their occupation, because when somebody comes across that, it does enhance their profile and who they were. I love this profile because they put so many links to the people they're talking about as well. And you can keep it in the wiki tree system where you can still read and then come back and move back to the original propa. Right, right. Yeah. Yeah. He said, it is said that he, he enjoyed what he liked company and kept my mother busy cooking one of his daughters. And he enjoyed fancy dinners on Sunday with the best China and linen and fine silverware. The Sunday suppers, yeah, as well. So thank you very, very much. I think this is the first time I can recall Kimberly sharing an ancestor with us since we've started doing this. So thank you very much for writing, answering the post. And I hope you'll share more. And our third ancestor to celebrate is shared by Alexis Nelson. This is her grandmother, no, her great aunt, Ruth Edith Long, married named Ben Meter. And she was both born and died in March, born March 2nd, 1907 in Ringwood, Oklahoma Territory, died March 8th at 85 in Trenton, Missouri. So I just love this photo. Close eyes. And her nickname was Tootsie, which was a nickname given to her by her father. And she says in the bio, he gave all 12 of his children nicknames. I would say the Ruth ended up with a good one. The family was poor. But this was common with homestead families in Western Oklahoma. The long family, long family children remained in good health, but Ruth developed peritonitis. And she had to have a very intensive surgery, which she very fortunately survived. But she was very thin throughout life. And Alexis conjectures, maybe that's why. So she didn't marry until she was 39. And at that time she was, according to Ray Van Meter, who was a confirmed bachelor, 10 years older. And they dated while she lived in Trenton, then she moved back to Kansas City and told Ray she would not move back to Trenton unless they were married. Ray really loved and missed her. So her plan worked very well. We married her to get her to move back. So she's very, very active in the antique club, the first Baptist church, an excellent cook and a genealogist. There was a murder of her grandfather, and they dug into that and researched that with the help of a professional genealogist. And as we would expect with Alexis, beautiful, beautiful photos throughout that look at this one. That's beautiful. So we have two more, don't we have two more? We have two more Saturdays. So that's two more chances to celebrate ancestors with connections to march and photos. So please, please send those in. Send those in. Excellent. Great. So it is now time for the profiles of the week. And who else better to do this? It's Dr. Who week here. That's right. Yeah, it's been a great week for me because not only are the profiles all about Dr. Who, but Wednesday or Thursday was Pi Day, March 14, 3, 4. So I took my best friend from high school out to lunch at a restaurant owned by my sister, my biological sister that I just found. She runs a restaurant. That's pretty cool. Yeah, it's pretty cool, except that she didn't have any Pi. Oh, no. We had to explain to her what Pi Day was. He's a math grad like myself from University of Waterloo. And so anyways, but we had a lovely dessert, but it just wasn't Pi, but sadly. Anyways, but the theme for this week is Dr. Who. So I have, of course, my TARDIS as Chris has spotted, but I also brought, I also got a present from my, one of my sons, this whole Dr. Who set. So here is a, it's a soup bowl. And it's got a little TARDIS lid so you can keep your soup warm when you're not eating it. You put cookies in there. Oh, you put cookies in there. Or biscuits. Yeah. And a lovely, lovely little tray there with a place to hold the cup, coffee cup. Hell of it. Now, these usually just stay in the display cabinet because I'm afraid of breaking them, but the TARDIS, as you often see, gets lots of good work. So anyway, so we're talking all about Dr. Who and actors who have played Dr. Who on the show, Dr. Who. And from the list here, you can see now the current incarnation is the 14th Dr. But we don't have 14 profiles to go through and you're probably saying, thank goodness, this will take two hours at that rate. The only ones we're actually going to talk about are the ones that have connections. So Chris can correct me if I'm wrong. I suspect most of the Dr. Who actors have a profile, but they may not be connected to the larger tree. All of these ones are connected, though some of the connections are a little nebulous or not as healthy as others. So we'll see. So let us, and this is the first time. Dr. Who fan, please increase your CC7 because I connect to none. Yeah, I was so shocked. I was not cousins with a single one. I even went and checked to make sure that my like, yeah, I was working correctly. Yes, yes, me too. So you know what, that's the content. Well, let's look at the spreadsheet here. None of us are cousins to any one of these. Okay, I'm not a cousin either. And it breaks my heart. I can't believe I'm not cousins. I have hope. If CC7s are increased, I have hope, right? Yes. There you go. That's right. I think you're favorite. Yeah. But what is interesting, I added, it was easy for me to find, to look at Mags' profile and then figure out who she was closer to. So I kept her score in there, added a line for Sandy. And just quickly going through, you can see that there, most of them were all identical. We're all closer to William Hartnell. But Mags is the only, she's the odd one out because she is closer to Tom Baker than John Hurtway, which is basically the only difference. Oh, and then she's also closer to Paul McGann than John Hurt. So there's something interesting on one line of Mags, because often she and you and Betsy, you and Mags are often very neck and neck in terms of cousinship and connections to people. But there she diverts. So that's interesting. Well, there's someone else in the Judith Frye in the chat is saying, this is the first time I'm not a cousin to any of them. So we may see a trend there. So we're seeing a lot of knowledge. Vic is right. I misspoke. Actually, Judy Gatwa is the 15th doctor because David Tennant was the 10th and the 14th. That's right. Yes, it's a, we're up to 15 now. Oh my goodness. And, and depending on how you count, you know, there may be, there, well, there, there are other counting systems, but anyways, let's go back. Well, so this is your first time hosting while we're doing this roundup combat, Sandy. So the way this works is we present two profiles at a time and people in the chat, you have to put down either Hartnell or Trouton, which one are they closer to? So for me, I would put down, if I was in the chat, I would put down Hartnell because I'm only 27 degrees from him, whereas I'm 34 degrees from Patrick Trouton. So people are putting that in and we have to keep track of that. So now Betsy, you have to go. I have to go. Yeah. You have to go. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. But Sandy, I've done, I've done what you're about to do. You just, you know, just make a tally chart. You won't be able to talk much to Greg while you're doing it, at least I can. Okay. I didn't, I may not have mentioned when I. Yeah, you might have mentioned not, Greg. I might have mentioned that. Yeah. I'm putting it on. So I'm going to jump over here. Okay. We've got it. I will watch the January play by everyone. Betsy, we'll see you for the March Rock. Yes. I see for that. And Global Lightcast on Monday too. Okay. Okay. So Hart. Okay. Hartnell or Trouton. Okay. So William Hartnell, he was the very first doctor back in 63, November 23rd, when the Doctor Who first aired, he was the first Doctor Who originated the, originated the role and he was in that role for three years. He was, of course, he was born in on the 8th of January in 1908 in St. Pancras in London, married to Amy McIntyre and died at the age of 67, which is pretty young. Says someone who just celebrated his 60th birthday. That seems young on the 23rd of April 1975 in Martin, England. So he began his career as a stagehand in 1925, acting in the Merchant of Venice. And then of course, the 10th anniversary, he did Doctor Who starting in 63, 266, I believe it was. And then he did play in the Three Doctors, which was an anniversary, the 10th anniversary special. And there was the first three doctors all reappeared. Now his role was pretty tiny in that one, but that was part of it. He was also, he joined the army in World War Two. And interestingly, the first three doctors were all, had all joined the army as part, in World War Two. So that's interesting. He was 18 months in the British Army Tank Corps. And he died due to heart failure. And then here's his little bit, is there. Then when he left the role of Doctor Who, Doctor Who did something unusual for programs back then, instead of, you know, changing characters or, you know, sort of restarting from scratch, what they did is they, his character was called the Time Lord, and he can jump the TARDIS that he travels in, goes all the way through, can go anywhere in space and time. And because he's a Time Lord, what happens is when his body wears out and dies, then he transforms into a new Time Lord. But it's the same character who has, you know, many, most of the same memories. Sometimes there's often, there's often a little issue, you know, upon the initial regeneration, there's a little bit of confusion happening there. But it's the same character with sort of different personality traits that sort of come to the fore or whatnot. So in fact, but we call them, the showrunners always call them, they label them by the number. So the second doctor was played by Patrick Trouton, often called the Cosmic Hobo. And he took on the role. He was born himself, he was born 1920 in Mill Hall in England, and passed away yet in 1987, again at the age of 67 though, on the 28th of March. So he's a March person as well in Columbus in the United States. He grew up in North London, was educated at Mill Hill Public School. He attended the Embassy School of Acting at Swiss Cottage under Eileen Thurndike. He won a scholarship and went to New York to New York, come along Island. And then this is interesting, when the Second World War broke out, he decided to return to Britain to help out with the war. So he took a Belgian ship across the ocean. And just when they're in the site of the coast, the ship hit a mine and sank. But he survived because he was able to escape in a lifeboat. So imagine that, like almost home and then suddenly the ship blows up because of a mine. But anyways, thank goodness he escaped. He joined the repertory company and then joined the Royal Navy in 1940. He became a captain of the motor gun boat that traveled or patrolled the North Sea. And then he went back to acting in 1945 when the war was over, broken to television, which he did and he did lots of stuff there. Robin Hood, Paul of Tarsus, Dr. Finley's casebook, The Old Curiosity Shop apparently was a big role. And then of course, and he even acted with William Hartnell before Doctor Who came along. So that's kind of interesting that they knew each other. But then of course, he became the second doctor in 1966. And he had that role for three years. Three years is a common tenure for the role of the doctor. That's what I was going to ask. Is it just a one or is it so three years? Three years seems to be about the average. Now, Tom Baker is an exception to the rule because he had it for a long time. But it's a very intense role because back then, there was a new episode every week, like for practically 50 weeks a year. And they taped, they rehearsed it and then they taped it live. So it was a lot of pressure, a lot of work. And so after three years of that solid pace, it's pretty tiring. So that's why it's not like one of these CSU where you can go on for 20, 25 years and have some of the same characters from the beginning. It's pretty intense. So he did that for three years and hobbies and good golf, sailing and fishing. So there we go. So how, what is the score for our YouTube viewers? Well, let me just say that Hartnell, Hartnell is zero, but Thor did say both. So if you're tied, then we give a point to each. 21, I believe, for Hartnell and one for Trotten. I wonder if that's going to be a theme. I wonder if it's a CC7 thing too. I don't know. Yeah, it could be. It could be. Okay. So the next pair is going to be John Pertwee and Tom Baker. So we just did the first and the second doctor. So let's look at the third and the fourth. John Pertwee, who was the third doctor born in 1919, 7th of July. That's kind of cool. Seventh day of the seventh month in the year 1919. Lots of doubles there. So that's kind of a neat numerical thing. Son of Roland Pertwee and Avist Cholz. He passed away at the age of 76, which is the flipping. There were digits of 67, which was the age the other two passed away at. He died on the 20th of May, 1996 in Sherman, the United States, Sherman, Connecticut. A brother, John, Michael Pertwee, and his son is Sean Pertwee, who has also done some acting. You might recognize, I think, some of the stuff he has done. I think he was Alfred in one of the Batman presentations. But anyways, John passed away in 1996. So he was the third doctor he took over in 69 from Patrick Troutman. And the interesting thing about his tour of being Doctor Who is when he became the doctor, I think there might have been some issues with the BBC and funding because they restricted all of his adventures to Earth. So the common thing about his reign as the doctor was that the TARDIS was out of commission. So it landed and then it didn't work anymore. So it couldn't take off and go to any other adventures in other times or places. So he was stuck on Earth. And so a number of his adventures took place as a military advisor to civilian advisor to unit, which was sort of like a secret police force or an English version of sort of, I don't know if you say the FBI or whatever, but anyways. So they would investigate strange things and he would be their consultant and advisor for that. But sadly, his TARDIS was out of commission during that. But interesting character. He was known, the actor himself was known as a comic actor. But the character that he played when he became the doctor, he played it more as an action hero, almost with a James Bond flair. And you can often see him with a big cape. He had an opera cape. And he also drew souped up cars. So he had a bright yellow car called Betsy that he often drove around. They called it this humobile. So that was the third doctor. The fourth doctor is the one who has had the longest reign and the one who is probably one of the most popular ones in the States because when doctor who was picked up by, I think it was PBS and reruns were made over and over again, it would be the fourth doctor's era, Tom Baker, that you would have seen on television. He's also the one that has the big long scarf, the multicolored scarf. So if you're familiar with that, you will be familiar with, you'll recognize that he is still alive, born in the 30s and still kicking. He does lots of audio plays. Big, big finish audio has a number of stories. So his character is continued on even off television has been carried on during audio plays and stories. So he's wonderful actor. If we go to his Wikipedia page, I'm sure you'll be able to see. So there's a more recent picture of him. But here's a picture of him back when he played Doctor Who. And where's it? I'm surprised there's not one of his scarf. But can you picture what I'm talking about the big long multicolored scarf, Sandy? Yes, definitely. Yeah. So I don't know why we don't see a picture of that here. Mm hmm. Truly the scarf isn't, isn't copyrighted. I wouldn't think so. You wouldn't think so. Oh, well. So how we do so this for these two mags was the outlier. She was closer, more closely related to Tom Baker, but the other three of us were all closer to John Hurtley. So probably 13 and Baker is seven. Oh, okay. For an interesting mixer, a lot more. Yeah. For the other guy than one guy. Yeah. So I'm wondering what that's, that's interesting. I'd be curious to invest. The TARDIS wiki might have the scarf. Oh, yeah, I bet it does. Yeah. So yeah, I will look at that later. Because I do want to get through these and not to that order. So the next two are Peter Davidson and David Tennant. And they are respectively the fifth doctor and the 10th doctor, actually 10th slash 14th doctor. But I pair them together because they're actually related to each other. So yeah, because Peter Davidson's daughter, Georgia, is actually married to David Tennant. So as well, there's a lot of similarity that they're, they're both have 180. Yeah. They're related or connected in ways. Yeah. David Tennant is the one I know. Yes. Yeah. He is probably the one, probably the most popular, most, I don't know, popular is the right word, or most well known of the, of the modern doctors. He's done lots of stuff along with Doctor Who, of course. But let's talk about his father first, or his father-in-law first. Peter Davidson was the fifth doctor, took over after Tom Baker, which is, you know, quite big shoes to fill because Tom Baker held the role for so long compared to the rest. But he took over, let's see, this is a very short profile. English actor known for his role as the fifth doctor on the series of Doctor Who, yeah, born April 13th, 1951 in Stratham, London, England. So, but he, he's done lots of stuff actually. He's more than, he's done more than just Doctor Who. In fact, before he did Doctor Who, he was on a series, the original series on BBC of All Creatures Great and Small. Oh, yeah. Are you familiar? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the original, yes. I'm familiar. Okay. Yeah. So on the original series, he was, let me think now, I think he played, let me, who was he? Did he play the brother of the vet? I don't think he was the, he wasn't the main. He wasn't the main character. He wasn't the main character or the owner of the veterinarian. So I think, I think he played Tristan, the, the brother, the ne'er-do-well scoundrel brother. Yeah. But then he became a quite respectable time lord in his own right and went on to other things. And, and he's done lots of stuff. And in fact, when the Doctor Who had its 50th anniversary, he was sort of one of the ones spearheading. They, there was an official BBC 50th anniversary special. And, but it didn't have every single time lord available. Oh no. And Peter Davison was one who wasn't included in that. So he, with some of the other ones who weren't included in the official 50th, got together and they made their own little movie. And it was hilarious because they played themselves, getting together and, you know, sort of trying to scheme to get into the official movie. It was hilarious. That is hilarious. If you're going to exclude us, we'll figure out a way to get in. That's right. That's right. Oh, it was really good. So, but anyways, so his son-in-law also became a doctor. Actually, I think he became the 10th doctor before he officially became his son-in-law. So that's, it was interesting. David Tennant, Scottish actor, rose to fame for his role of the 10th incarnation, 2005 to 10. So that was a five years, you know, but there was a, there was sort of a break in the middle there when there was just a year, what's a couple movies and whatnot, but, and then he returned again. This past year, as the 14th doctor briefly, there are three specials that happened in November, November, December, born 18th of April in Bathgate in Scotland. And his father was a minister. And interesting, his maternal great grandparents were Northern Irish Protestants from County, London, Derry, and signed the Ulster Covenant. And again, nice short profile because they're living persons. So there we have it. But he's done, of course, many, many other things. David Tennant, wonderful actor. There was one character he played in a series called Jessica Jones, which is a superhero. And he was very creepy in that one. Not at all the warm, fun, fun loving Scotsman that we love. So because they're connected to each other, I suspect that anyone who's, everyone is off by one. So for me, I was, I was connected to Peter first, and then, then to David. So I suspect all the connections went through either Peter to David, or they will gone through David, then to Peter sort of thing. So that's how mine was, I was one degree away connected to Peter. And then David, what the results are interesting. So Dave, David had three. And Peter had 15. 15. Interesting. Interesting. Okay. Next two are Paul McGahn and John Hurt. And I put these two together because they're both, they both had short runs as the doctor. Paul McGahn was the ninth doctor. I think if I got my math right there. Or no, the eighth doctor, the eighth doctor, sorry, the eighth doctor. And his official time on television was only as part of while initially was only part of a TV movie in 1996. There was a TV movie, which was supposed to be the rebirth of Dr. Who because Dr. Who had been gone, there have been eight doctors up to Sylvester McCoy. And then the BBC shut it down. And Dr. Who fans all over the world were very sad. And some of them wrote novels, some of them did stage plays or anything to keep it alive. And then they decided that they would make a movie and that would rebrand it and it would come back to life. So they made the movie. And I think it was filmed in Vancouver, actually, BC. It was a co-American production along with the BBC. But it did not do well. And so it did not actually spark the rebranding that we were hoping for. Because the fans didn't enjoy the concept? I don't know. There was, I don't know, it was fine. But you know, it was a 1990s movie. Don't we call those B movies now? Yeah, that's right. We can call those B movies now. But you know, he was great. So it was good. He was an English actor. Yeah, known for the eighth doctor. Yeah. And there we go. Born on November 14, 1959. But during that 50th anniversary, he actually did part, take part in a short, which extended his character a bit. And in fact, in that, and then because of that, then he, he went from being the, let's see, what do they call him? He, he, he regenerated into John Hurt's doctor. But the John, because they'd already done by the time that 50th anniversary came along, after his eighth, there was a ninth doctor was that already a 10th doctor. And the 11th doctor, they did, they couldn't remember him. They couldn't, didn't want to remember all the other ones. So they gave John Hurt the title of the war doctor because it took, his tenure took place when there was a war on Gallifrey. Gallifrey was the home planet of the, of the time onwards. So anyways, John Hurt, of course, is known much more, is known more, more than just being the, the war doctor on doctor who he is, of course, a celebrated actor who's done lots of stuff, companion of the British Empire, born in the 22nd of January 1940 in Chesterfield, Derbyshire. England, apparently had a number of whys, which I hadn't realized before. Of course, it was knighted, he's Sir John Hurt. And many people actually may know him more for his role of Harry Potter, because of course, he was Eric O'Levander, the one who, the owner of the shop for wands, of course, and considered the best wand maker in the world. Yes. So he, he was first led to art and painting by his parents, but then eventually pursued acting and the world is better for it because he's done lots of amazing stuff. As far back as the, the elephant man, the original, do you remember that? I do. Yeah. He portrayed John Merrick in that. And Anthony Hopkins was also in that one. He was also an alien. I didn't remember that. And of course, space balls. And then of course, O'Levander and then Dr. Who. He's had a long storied career and a great guy sadly died in 2017. So between the two of them, both who had fairly short runs officially as the doctor, how are people faring in terms of closeness? This is another one where Mags, you and Mags are both, the appellation connection is closer to Paul than John Hurt. So I think you, you're tied, right? You're the same distance. Right. What about our YouTubers? So what's interesting about this is Hurt has 11 and McGann has two. Oh, but the whole before you know, I need to add one point to each. Oh, it's twice. Thor is both equal distance and I am both. So they're 31 degrees for me, but both Thor and I tie with interesting with both. So I'm curious what Mags ties with the sea, where that's coming from. But yeah, Paul, Paul McGann. I thought John Hurt might be, but what's the CC seven? Oh, that's a good question. Let's look at that hit. Oh, almost even again. 137 connections, 136 connections. That is interesting. I thought John Hurt might have more. So I thought, you know, maybe that's why there's more YouTubers. Okay. Last. Oh, no, we're not quite done to Peter's. Peter sees Peter Capaldi and Peter Cushing. Peter Capaldi played the 12th doctor taking, taking the role after, after Matt Smith or in the 14th of April, 1958 in Glasgow, another Scottish actor to play the doctor. He's done lots of lots of stuff. But his role here is celebrating his role in the doctor and he did a great job there. And that's a pretty short profile, but a wonderful actor and career. Peter Cushing played the, played Dr. Who in a series of movies that were not officially counted as part of canon. So I know if you're, if you're familiar with Star Wars or Star Trek, you know, what is canon and what is not canon, like what is, you know, the true story and what is just sort of made up stories along the side, you know, is a big argument. And so the movies that he, Peter Cushing took part in were ones that were initially, at least certainly initially, were not considered, you know, the valid Dr. Who or whatever. But I think fans love them anyways, just because they were more Dr. Who content. And with some of the recent changes that have been added in the, in the lore over the last couple of years with the timeless child theme, you know, maybe he fits in there anyways. So I think he could, he's definitely considered a doctor. We don't have a number for him, but there we just call him the Cushing doctor. He also played in a series of hammer films. So I think hammer was the, this, the company that produced them playing science, not villains per se, but like so a sinister Baron on Frankenstein, he played Sherlock Holmes and the vampire hunter, Dr. Van Helsink. He also often played against, you know, horror greats like Christopher Lee, Vincent Price. Christopher, he was probably already putting this in the chat, but he was also in Star Wars, Grand Moff Tarkin. And his estate would authorize the use of his likeness in Rogue One, a Star Wars story. I think they digitally included him in there somehow. But he was born in Surrey and educated at Charm College. He says, people look at me as if I'm some sort of monster, but I can't think why. But he says in many pictures, I'm not, I'm, I'm a monster maker or a monster to story, but never actually the monster. He said, I'm really quite a gentle guy. So there we go. Sadly, he was diagnosed with prostate cancer, and that's, but he did, he survived 12 years from the original diagnosis. So that's actually pretty good. So there we have the two Peters or two of the three. The two Peters, whose last name started with C, because of course we had Peter Davis and another Peter earlier on. So how are we doing there with the two Peters? Interesting. So Cushing 15, Capaldi one. Wow. That's the only point for Capaldi because neither of us are closer to Capaldi. And if anybody, I believe Shelly two that are tied or I'm sorry, Shelly, so I thought Shelly was, she said Cushing and Davis and were her closest connections. But interesting if anybody is Dr. Who or Dr. Who fans, you know, last opportunity to improve these bios. Yeah. And connected. There we go. And the last two bios in the category are two ladies connected with Dr. Who. What's that? This is great. I love those that you put these two together. Yes. Well, they are, they are both phenomenal actors. You know, they really are. They, I just love them in this role, but I love them in all the roles that they've done. They're just, Jodi Whitaker is famous because she is the, she was the 13th doctor and the first woman to officially portrayed the doctor on TV. And interesting, at one point during her reign as the doctor, she met, she met a former in an earlier incarnation of the doctor who apparently was the doctor before even the first doctor that we knew William Hartnell. And so that was one of the wrinkles they added to the lore was that the doctor went back further in time than we actually know about. And that doctor was a woman doctor as well, a black woman doctor on top of it. So, you know, the, the showrunner Chris Chibnall during the time of Jodi Whitaker was really, you know, pushing the boundaries of what was, you know, initially just, you know, old male white guy. Put it bluntly. And she was wonderful during the role that time. Loved her portrayal and the stories. Some people were maybe not as big fans of the story. Some of the stories maybe didn't hit, but I thought some of them were really good. Like one of them, one of the neat things about Doctor Who in general was that one of its mandates when it first was created by the BBC in 63 was to entertain and to educate. And so often you'll have historical episodes where the doctor will go back in time and meet a historical person. And one of the ones that she did too, there was two episodes in her reign, one where she went back in time and met Rosa Parks. Oh, that's kind of cool. And then another one where one of her companions was of East Indian descent and they went back in time actually to and met her, I think it was her grandmother during the time of when Pakistan and India were being separated. Well, she just lost the word for it. What's the name of that? Is it every Doctor Who episode or was it throughout the whole series? Those were just one like individual episodes. Every episode, you know, they go to a different place at a different time and whatnot. But this one time they went and they visited it's not called separation. I'm blanking on the word for it. Partition, that's the word. Thank you. Thank you. Which was something that I actually did not know much about. I think I knew that the country had split and that people moved from one part to another. But the reality of it and some of the horrors of that was something that Doctor Who brought to lots of people that did not know that piece of history. Something that's not talked about very much. So anyways, wonderful actress, done lots of stuff. She was actually in a series along with David Tennant prior to her role as the Doctor and will continue to do amazing things. I'm pretty sure. So yeah. And then Alex Kingston portrayed Dr. Riversong who first arrives and meets the David Tennant's Doctor. But she basically pops in and out of the Doctor's life sort of in almost in reverse order. So she meets him after she has known him for a long, long time and he doesn't know who she is. And then eventually they keep missing and then the David Tennant successor meets her again and eventually she actually ends up marrying the Doctor. There's a whole episode called The Wedding of Riversong. So is that the first marriage between two Doctors? That we know of. She's not officially a Doctor herself but she is a Time Lord because she was conceived while her parents were both companions in the TARDIS. And so theoretically she was conceived in the TARDIS so some of that Time Lord energy was floating around. And so she had herself, oh spoiler alert, regenerated. Oops. And spoilers is one of her catchphrases. So anyway, she's a wonderful actress. She played, she was also an ER. You might recognize her from that. And she's done lots of other things and continues to do amazing things. She's done a lot of BBC as well. Tremendous amount upstairs, downstairs. She was a sister on that, Malflanders. She was the lead in that. So she's done a tremendous amount of work. Yeah. Yeah. And she's taken the character of Dr. Riversong and done audio stories for Big Finish as well. Spoilers. Exactly. Sorry, I let it go there. Oops. Spoilers. Oh, I really hope she returns, Chris. Oh, I really want to see her again. Oh, that would be wonderful. But her audio dramas are wonderful as the characters. So she's just taken that and done wonderful things. Anyways, I've gushed enough about those two, I think. Let's see how the people have done. Okay. So, well, Alex for the win, 13 for her and Jody won. So what was her number? 13, 13 for Alex and Jody won. Wow. There we go. Good. Well, thank you for indulging me and allowing me to take you on this little journey through Dr. Who. For somebody who doesn't watch it, my boys watch it. My husband, some watch it and love it. But for somebody who doesn't watch it, it is fascinating for me to have you kind of give me the over. You love it. So I could understand and follow along. Well, it's never too late. You can always go back and start watching. That's true. Binge watch. Yep. Binge watch it. There we go. Good stuff. Okay. So I wanted to share, just before we go, I want to share one thing with you, except where is it? That's the one. Okay. So this week in the newsletter, there was a highlight about some of the new apps that came out. So Ian B. Call did an app, which isn't officially released yet. It's in, I guess, it's in beta. But he made a nice GGG post on no name, not no name. One name. One name. No name study. One name study. In genealogy. So there you go. But I haven't looked, I haven't used it enough to really give it its due. So. I will tell you, it's amazing. I've seen enough of it that I know it is amazing. But I, yeah. So have you played with it? Yes. Okay. Yeah. And I like it because one of my names is such variations. I have a Lance name that L-A-N-C-E and L-A-N-T-Z and then some other things. So I'm able to play around with it to find more information than I thought I would ever find. That's great. But you're going to show something that they have. But I also had made some updates to, to my apps and I made a GGG post. But I didn't expect, like I knew, I didn't expect back to get into the newsletter. But it did. So that was kind of nice. And I just want to show you a couple, couple little quick things. So one is, here's the super tree. And actually, it's been updated since Wednesday. It was just updated last night. So this most recent version of it. So I've loaded one of my great, great grandparents, maybe three greats, David Clamont. So here he is right there. There we go. You see, there he is. He had two wives. And I'm descended through Marie-Philemen Moren. So there, there we go. So Alphonseen is my great, great grandmother. There we go. So when you first load it up, you get this display. So you get, there's the primary character here, is David. And then, you know what, let me change the coloring so that it's, you can see the distance from the primary. So then it'll stand out a little better. So there's David. You've given us such great tools for this app. It's not just here, here it is, and deal with it and work with it. You've given us so many options to play around. So visually, just dynamically. Oh, yeah. Thank you. Yeah, I'm hoping, I hope you like that. So there we go. There's David. So he's the primary, right? So all the ones in this lighter, that's very light green. This medium green are one degree away. So those are, this is his descendants. So you can see there's one generation of descendants there, two generations of ancestors. So his parents and his grandparents, as well, of course, his siblings and their one descendant, their descendants. But with this latest update, what I've done is, I've made it a little more efficient. So you get basically, you get one free click on the plus sign for free, because those, those extra relatives have been preloaded. So you don't have to wait for it to go back to the database. So with one quick click, I can click on here and add the aunts and uncles. That's fantastic. So they're all of a sudden, and this, you know, I think this is my favorite view using the supertree is just to show all the direct ancestors, plus their immediate family, their aunts, their brothers and sisters. So basically you'll see, so here are his aunts and uncles. And then if I add on one more generation, see it just loaded automatically, instead of having to wait, which it used to have to do. Spending the wait. And spinning. So there's his grand. So those are parents, grandparents. And so all of his grandparents and brothers and sisters. So those are his great aunts and great uncles. And then if I hit plus on the descendants, then you'll get those for free. So there's, so each of his children, their children, so his grandchildren. And this line, this is their Joseph, that this is the line that I'm coming from. So David begat Joseph, who begat Marielle Francine. And then that's the line that I would trace down through there. But then there's, there's another Wilfred and another line here. So and all of that you get for free just loading it up. Now if you want to go further, then you click on the plus sign. And then it has to go back to the database and the messages here. It tells you what it's retrieving. So you have some sense of, you know, that you have to wait for a little bit. And I shouldn't have done that because that, but while it's doing that, of course, you can go to the settings and you can change lots of different things. And one of the things I added just, just yesterday was the ability to do something about showing repeated people in your tree. Oh, no. Oh, no. 2000. I don't want to wait for 2,100 people. No, run away, run away. Let's just reload that quickly just from scratch. The small one. But I will tell you that I told you all the time, I start my wiki tree day with the fan with his fan because this actually lets me see who I might need to work at. I kind of do both the anniversary list in the fan, but the fan helps me see a lot going on on a bigger picture of a visual person for the big picture. So when I see something real tight and small, just me and say my parents, it doesn't really click as well as me is this fan does in the color coding. And also, if there's so many options to play, I know that you just completed your DNA when you're a fan. So you can see a whole lot of different options on the fan. This is more your super true, but I love it. And then you add in the DNA citation maker. I just love. So what I've done here is I've added this option here to show. So if how to handle repeated people. So if you click on the second option, you get colored halos around them. So you can sort of just like in the fan chart, you know, if you have you've got pedigree collapse, you have two grandparents that show up in two different places, their color coding. So they should jump out. I've done something similar, but I because there's so many boxes, I made a larger sort of this more like a halo effect. Now, I wanted a single colors, then I add sort of multi layer color. Anyways, you'd see that if you got a really busy tree. But there's a couple. So these ones. So if I look for this double green, this couple shows up somewhere else on my tree. If I scroll to the there, they are over here on the far right. So I mean, this is just a game changer for endogamy. If you're reading this, this is such a game changer because if you scroll, make it smaller, make the tree smaller. So if you're looking and you're trying to find your endogamy here, it's a little tricky, but your eye instantly sees those halos that you have. And it's a game changer. And I know that we talk about endogamy a lot in Appalachia, but also Italy, we talk a lot about it. Yeah. And French Canada too, same thing. And one of the things in the colors, you may not even be aware, but one of the options in the background colors is just to turn off the colors and make them all white. So if we do that, then everything is white, except for those halos. Unless it did got rid of the halos, it got rid of the halos. Coming soon. No, no, I just had to put them back on. I guess it said, you said white, that means no halos, no colors. Be careful what you wish for, right? There we go. Can you just pop? Now I put the halos back on. See, now it just pops out at you, right? There's the green and there's the tan ones. And I don't have any repeats. Oh, I've got one repeat on this side somewhere, a light one. Now I'm really, really curious to see somebody show the show. Go ahead and do your own. And then come back and tell us how many halos you have. I don't want to admit how many I have. Yeah. So the other thing I want to show you quickly, and oh, now we're going way over, aren't we? Again, back to the fan chart. One of the things that I've added is the, I've got this new tab at the back here, which allows you to save your settings. The other thing is, it actually now, it remembers the settings you use. So if I were to change my settings here, let's say I like generation, the generation, coloring by generation, and I want to show middle names. Okay. So now I've got the middle names are showing and the coloring by middle. The default is not that. The default is the grand, the four grandfathers, grandparents. So if I were to reload this, it will remember that that was the most recent one I used. But if you go to this tab, you can, if you've changed all your settings and now you don't know where things are, just want to go back to start, you can quickly hit reset. It actually tells you the settings that are different from the current setting. So if you say, oh, maybe I do want to keep that, or it just gives you a hint of where things were. So if you only want to change one of them, you can go back to that portion. So obviously color options, that's going to be in the colors tab, or the highlight options will be in the highlights tab. But if I hit confirm, then it'll just set it back to the default. Or you can actually save the set. If you got some custom setup, you can save those and load them. So I've actually got, where do I have those? And this is what I start my day with on wiki tree. This is like the to-do list. Yeah. So I've got a set of settings for the census. And if I load that up, it will show what I've done, which is a different, I think I must have clicked on a different census, or a different, yeah, I changed it. It's highlighting the people based on there, or it's showing the color by their status, or whether they're confirmed by DNA, their confidentiality or whatnot. But anyways, there's, you can save settings and you can load them. So I have a setting for, if I want to look at DNA confirmations, or if I've got a different setting for looking at the X chromosome path, inheritance path. And for that one, again, I use the all white background with just the yellow highlights. So it really stands out. And then I have one for my preferences, my default preferences, which is that generational coloring and stuff. So I hope that's helpful for some people. It's very, I can tell, seriously, this is a game changer for me to find a little bit of my endogamy, to find out where I need to add my DNA confirmations, to find out who I'm missing on, Wiki Tree, CC7, if you're a rocker, this is right as well. But it just starts my day off. I can see my, my holes or what I need to work on. And it's really great for that. So I love the fan. Thank you. Yeah, it's good. So those are some of the recent changes that I've added to the thing. So hopefully you like that. But we should wrap up our live cast that Sandy, thank you for being part of, part of this, and being part of the record breaking longest roundup live cast ever. Fantastic. I'll blame Dr. Who, not me. Yes. Well, it's just me and my rambling, I'm afraid. I did drop the link to the social media for the week. If everybody would click on it, it shows who the project of the week is, who the one name study is, who the one place study is, whole bunch of good stuff. Go to your social media, find Wiki Tree, share, comment. Excellent. Great. Thank you for doing that. Fantastic. You know, I always have a hard time finding that link. So that's, I'm glad you've shared it with everyone. But in the calendar, in the GGG post for the calendar, which is a pin to the top. So when you go to the GGG, you can find this link very easy. You can see coming up, there's the Saturday sourcing sprint is happening today. We have a question of the week, the 52 answers to the week for this coming week. A global spotlight is Monday nightlight. And are you part of that as well, Sandy? The what? The global spotlight. I am not. That is Betsy and David. Betsy. Okay. Because Betsy mentioned it as she was leaving and it sounded like she was that inviting you to be part of that. Or you, you just knew about it. I just promote it. I just promote the heck out of it. But I am going to be with Betsy on the rock reveal because we have three Applatches that we worked on. And there's big news for the rock reveal, but you got to show, you got to watch it. And the rock reveal is when? It's going to be on March 25th. I think it's Monday. Oh, okay. Oh, we don't have. I know. I'm going to go ahead. Oh, down there. There we all down. Okay. In the following week. Great. Okay. Connection combat is going to be going on. The data doctor's challenge, of course, the German stamp just Friday date night. And then we're back to another weekend chat and round up next week. Also, the connectathon is coming up in April and the invites are out. The GGG post is there. There is one answer for each team. So respond to that answer and say, I want to be part of this team. And there's two new teams this year for this connection. There is there's the graveyard guardians who are going to who are going to help out and make those profiles not spooky, but really well done. Oh, that's a cool. That's a cool new team. And there's a new team, any WT new to wiki tree. And Betsy is the captain of that team, I believe. And you know, you can if you're new to wiki tree, that's the team to join. And if this is your very first connectathon, then you belong in this team, even if you've been in wiki tree for three years, but you've never done a connectathon before, then you can join the new team for this coming connectathon in April. So there's the link. So make sure you sign up under the team that you want a little bit different than wiki tree has done in the past, but lots of fun. Lots of fun. Yeah. So I think I think I have said everything and more than I need to say. Thank you again for joining us, Sandy. No problem. Thanks, everybody. Yeah. And let me just find where's our outro? There's our outro. Okay. Take care, everyone. Have a great week. Have a great week. Bye.