 Hey there, it's Monday night a cool evening here in Los Angeles for once lovely. Yes, but tonight another great show We move from Personalities and music from last week, which was a great show Tim tippets is our guest tonight and we're gonna talk about his career and we're gonna talk a lot of vio studio tech A vio tech guru by the way. Oh, yes indeed. All right, and we've got a couple more things from Nam Your tech questions, so stay tuned voiceover body shop coming right up two men Twin sons from different mothers with a passion for voiceover recording technology and the desire to make recording easy for voice actors everywhere together in one place George Whidham the home studio engineer to the stars a Virginia tech grad with an unmatched knowledge of all the latest gear and technology in voiceover today Dan Leonard the home studio master a voice actor with over 30 years experience in broadcasting and recording and a no holds barred myth-busting attitude for teaching you how easy it is together to bring you all the latest technology today's voiceover superstars and Leaving the discussion on how to make the most of your voiceover business This is voiceover body shop Voiceover body shop is brought to you by voice over essentials comm home of Harlan Hogan signature products Source elements makers of source connect source connect pro and source connect now Vio to go go comm everything you need to become a successful voice artist voiceover extra your daily resource for vio success The vio dojo take your voiceover career all the way J. Michael Collins demos when quality matters and by voice actor websites dot com Where your voice actor website shouldn't be a pain in the butt And now live from their super secret multimedia studio in Sherman Oaks, California Here are George Whidham and Dan Leonard Good evening. I'm Dan Leonard and I'm George Whidham and this is voiceover body shop or vio BS Well, hopefully not too much BS tonight. No, this will be minimal BS tonight. That's right So but Tim tippets is gonna be joining us and we're gonna talk about all sorts of cool stuff Because he's a he's a vio tech guru because he has all those racks of equipment and stuff like that to make him say He actually sounds like this, but he uses all this equipment To make sure that you know, he can he can sound like he's you know, he's got a really deep voice, right? You know, but so he's got to be good at it. Yeah, he knows his stuff. Yeah, and yes, we also have some stuff from Nam What are we looking at tonight? We got video from smash mouse smash mouse who we met last year But we'll actually see the product this year that they're that they're beta testing or whatever prototyping and we also have video from What was the other one? It'll be a surprise. No, no, no run run night from From Jacobi acoustics, which yeah, really cost-effective acoustical panels that look really good actually Yeah, excited about that. Yeah, and an old pro Ron Knight whom some people who've been around for a little while might remember He's a coach too, right? Also a vio coach. Yeah, that was a cool surprise. Yes, so and And we have a couple of tech questions. Paul Stefano is in the The chat room tonight. Yes. He is in Facebook and the vOBS chat room both monitoring looking for your questions Yeah, so if you have a question go into the chat room Tell Paul what you want to ask what question you want to ask and put a note question And that will help you colon or something so it stands out Especially, you know, if you've got a tech question for us or once we start talking to Tim and you've got some specific questions for him Throw in there and we will make sure that We read those questions we will we promise whether we understand them or not Anyway now it's time for You know, you've probably heard or read about the New York City area voice talent and coach who's been accused of Sexual assault and harassment while coaching them and producing their demos in the studio this occurred over and period of 18 years and believe it or not No, no, no push it down to the bottom there Take two let's do it from the top from the top of the top. We're gonna do an edit. Okay. He's straight now Okay, right. Yeah straightening out. There you go. Perfect Take two teleprompters are so worth it Okay, okay Thank you for doing that Okay, here's the news, you know, you've probably heard or read about the New York City area voice coach and talent coach Who's been accused by dozens of women of sexual harassment and assault while coaching them and producing their demos in a studio? This occurred over a period of 18 years Believe it or not and while during this time the women confided privately about the attacks They became emboldened by the me-too movement to come forward in public with their stories Yeah, a CNN article last Thursday CNN CNN Kick this into high gear and voiceover extra has covered it in more depth for the VO industry By the way, the website of Peter O'Faye's PDR voice coaching is no longer available online and web searches of his name quickly reveal articles about the harassment accusations Plus mention an NYPD investigation into those accusations in the wake of all this our question tonight is What would you do if you felt sexually harassed in a voiceover studio or in any work or personal environment? Voiceover extra invited Rafay's victims to share their advice to other women on how to react to and emotionally process Harassment and assault. Here's the highlight advice. Here's a highlight of advice given by Sarah Esalen who one of the five to respond for this article Know their game Sarah advises and realize that it is not your fault And what is their game Sarah Sarah says that sexual predators in the arts like Peter O'Faye speak the language of the actress They know what triggers the actress They know that an actress wants to go to deep emotional places in order to perform truthfully If that monster can find that actress nerve in you that desire to be good Real and true in performance then he knows he has you and can manipulate that desire He can tell you that you aren't quite there yet that you sound Inhibited that you can go deeper get the job and then suddenly well will censure this for the webcast but you leave the assault wondering if it was truly an assault and You bury the memory for decades creating a sort of scene missing in the narrative of your career Sarah's advice know their game better than they do she says Recognize when it happened or when it's about to happen Stand your ground and always remember that it is never ever your fault There's much more to learn from these women in the article now at voiceover extra comm along with them an email address for sharing your own Experience and questions confidentially This and hundreds of additional VO how-to articles await for you now at voiceover extra your daily resource for voice over success And that was a shocking story to be sitting in an airport this week and going no Yeah, I know I first saw it broken by Heather Costa who was posting the story around the net I by saw on the the Facebook twisted wave group the first time right and It's heartbreaking. I mean it is I mean I guess I guess it was a matter of time Unfortunately that this would hit our business as well, but it's really unfortunate for everybody involved You know, it's it's horrible for all the women. It's horrible for the career It's horrible for the family of Peter. It's it's just a bad thing all around. So it's all about trust I mean in our business we have to deal with people in very close environments and stuff People have to trust us. Fortunately, we're very trust worthy Yeah I mean if we lose that trust and we cross that line one time that can mean any our careers Right, I mean Dan and I know that we work in Close close proximity to people on a regular basis in their closets in their next to their underwear Yeah, it is it is it is a a delicate space to work in and we have to be absolutely Impeccable in how we behave in those spaces. I mean, there's no there's no gray area ever For the rest of you guys out there behave for crying out loud be gentle with please Ridiculous. Anyway, what's new in tech news? Well, oh, that's a cool. This is joy This you may think this is completely unrelated and you've probably seen tons and tons of Bluetooth speakers out there I just thought this one kind of popped up as a as a kind of a cool gadget to have for Well, really anybody that's looking for a Bluetooth speaker But also maybe people that are looking for something to take on the road with them that they could actually trust as Sounding good enough to edit audio on. Yeah, Alexa. What's the weather? It is not one of those Not at this price this speaker from the company S. Bode SBODE Found it on Amazon. Where are those one of those you live on Amazon. I Found it on there. It's it's a it's a very inexpensive. I roughly 42 dollars at the time of that. I found it Bluetooth speaker. What makes it cool? Well, first of all, it sounds really good. It's got good audio quality It has all the features you need our arm and stuff you don't know and stuff you don't shut up and And see if I can get it to play some music here. I had some music queued up that will get us flagged on YouTube. I'm sure It's not connected to my phone now, even though of course I wish it was working Trust me. I heard it before it was sounded really good. It sounds pretty darn good. It sounds like you're listening to Someone's voice coming out of the speaker. It's paired. I love that. I love that accent I see it'll play the music. Hey, somebody had to do the voice over for that. Exactly The beginning this is just voice Oh I just found it pretty remarkable how natural voices sound coming out of there Yeah, no, it sounds fine So you're saying you can if you're in a pinch it could actually be used as a studio month throw it in your bag Take it when you go to a hotel and it's time to cut audio plug this in Unlike the new Apple home pod This hasn't a line in so you can plug this into anything You probably maybe you've heard about the new Apple iPod. I was gonna talk about it tonight But frankly, it's totally half-baked. It doesn't work with anything except the iPhone or the iPad It doesn't work with Spotify. It doesn't work with a lot of stuff. It's a cool speaker $350 You know bragging device, you know, it's just look at my new speaker This thing is useful. $42. It floats. It's waterproof. I listen to music in the morning I listen to this podcast. I stick it in the shower It's it's really a great little device. It even has an extra trick up in sleep Which I can't imagine any of you guys ever using it has a micro as a micro SD card Oh my goodness, you can stick a card in there and a line in and align in and there's the charging port Wow waterproof cap and Like you needed more but wait, there's more No Device disconnected. Oh, that's not what I wanted to do. Oh, but yeah, but I think we get the point I hit the wrong button. It does Power off well turns off. Okay. I'm now forgetting how to use it of course because we're doing this live on the air But it also does FM radio. Ooh Yes, it has an FM radio Mode FM radio mode. Yes, it has enough Which I haven't made use of because where I live in But it has an actual FM radio which is a rare find to find in devices like this So it's really multi versatile last thing I'll say is it also does stereo pairing So if you buy two of these you press this little extra button And it is now a stereo pair of monitors for listening to music I don't know if that's useful for editing voiceover But if you want to use it for listening to music, it's really cool and don't confuse it for an energy drink So and it really is neat. Oh and for the audio geeks. It has passive radiators Oh each end is a little piston that that's an actual passive radiator that helps the speaker respond better to base frequency So that's my cool little tech find of the week as maybe minimal to do a voiceover But it it could be a cool gadget to have with you on the road and it costs a fraction of the stuff from Bose and Ultimate years and all the other stuff. Let's not wear out the geekiness yet tonight. Oh a lot of geekiness You know to warm it up. Well, and I'm catching up to your beard here, too Oh, yeah, you're growing. Are you doing a little something something? I have I'm in a small play that I have to be look somewhat biblical very nice. How far are you gonna go with it? To the end of February and then that's it No, I know me like how long is it? We'll see how long long again, sir Just turn this little crank back here, and it will keep growing like even play-doh machine Alrighty, well, yeah, well, we've got lots of stuff coming up Tim tippets in a few minutes So stay tuned for that and your tech questions coming right on an anam video an anam video Right after this. 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Do we talk about it enough on this show a few times But we're joined here by Ron Knight Ron welcome to our show Yeah, and you're with Joe Kavi acoustics These guys for about four years now I guess some of your people might remember me from voiceover over the decades and I've started working with this organization because When people were asking me on advice on what am I going to do about my home studio? There's a lot more to it than just getting your favorite little USB microphone and patching it into your deck with Pro Tools And then the next thing you know you're still dealing with the sounds of your room So this organization has got this company around the world for 21 years in about 47 countries Has been coming up with great sonic solutions acoustic treatment solutions and to boot needless to say they look pretty doggone good Yeah, aesthetics is always important to a lot of our clients and these are very different from You know charcoal and purple and that sort of thing not to downplay But a lot of the other off-the-shelf solutions might be available at your typical retail chain Your general choice has been gray camel and maybe purple and it's the same plan of five fingers with a little bit of an absorbent foam That may do the trick in terms of just drawing up a room and mopping it up But it's not really solving a lot of the other acoustical solutions that you may need to have solved in your voice over Yeah, I'm looking over here. I mean up. There's a combination of different stuff. We've got obviously diffusers at the bottom But then we have some things up top here That are More of a combination of reflection and absorption, right? Yes, that is correct How would that be an advantage in a small booth? Well, I look at it this way when you're getting your typical off-the-shelf stuff, whether it's ultimate Marker tech some of the other usual suspects that are out there You're coming up with one solution and people are just patching it wherever it needs to go The thing about sound is while there's no such thing as sound proofing We do have sound mop-up cleanup and sound confusion of sound waves and really the more you can confuse a sound wave and Mop it up from all of its different respected problems base low-end frequencies high-end frequencies mid-ranges Something like this aside from being pretty dug on gorgeous to look at I mean, can you imagine if you were recording in your den and you had a whole wall made of something like this? And we have a variety of options. This is actually doing three different things It's got an inner core of sound absorption within every square on the inside. It's got a texture which is also creating that Not a parallel wall or that typical thing where you're having a reflective surface So what sound is trying to bounce off of that then what's happening is that by capturing the sound wave in the room It's actually forcing it into a pattern Which is then forcing it to get absorbed into the outer shell Which is also yet another reflective or absorption type of material So that's all going on with within one panel and a price point on something like this for the voiceover guy gal $46 for a two-foot by two-foot panel So when you think about just getting something like that and saying how am I going to treat my room? I think maybe all of us would agree. That's probably a little bit more interesting Five fingers sticking out of the same gushy foamy stuff. That's that's actually an excellent price point You wouldn't need a whole lot of that was going to be a hundred and fifty dollars, frankly We do have that as well. Yeah. Well, this is a much more complex firm does everything from concert halls professional recording studios pavilions Theaters the whole gamut, you know in terms of restaurants and every other typical isolated sound problem trap But for the home studio person, this is probably you know another thing they have is what we call studio getting a box So somebody says gee my home studio is going to be in my closet. It's four foot by six I actually am doing this in a den. Maybe that's 12 foot by 16 We have six templates ready to go by size by color and they can literally go say I need ATP ATP kit number four Version number B that gets sent in a box. They can just throw it by template right up into their room Very nice, and that's and that's a that's a really great thing for anybody who really doesn't exactly know what they want to do That they can get a kit like that and and you show them how to arrange it We can you know, I mean if they really are going to go open up a real pro-grade studio They were really happy to come on out and show them how to put that together. We do that. Don't we? Tell us about what's unique about that substrate that that's white foam. Yeah, that being used in some of these products Yeah, this is I mean some vocal people or voiceover people might know what I'm talking about We used to have a New York, New Jersey studio, which was really busy a lot And we'd step into a little whisper room or something like that And it had a really nice quality more or less to just dampen up the sound But your voice talent would get in there after a while. They'd feel like gee. I'm going horse I it feels like I'm getting a scratchiness in the throat Literally the joke I've told is we've had people go out get those spray mr. Bottles and bring them back into the vocal booth Trying to get some humidity in there. Mm-hmm. There's a lot of things going on in your recording environment for your throat This is actually used in hospitals. This particular foam is an antimicrobial It's hypoallergenic. It is antiviral antifungal and this is something they use in a medical environment But at the end of the day you can see the fine cellular weave in that foam as a sound absorptive property It's great, but for the vocal person when using this it's pretty doggone great because if you're having issues with your throat This can be a solution. Is this as effective if not more so than like a typical foam type material? Again, it all depends on what's going on in the room. Yeah when these guys came to my rescue I had a recording studio that was built in the flight path of an airline airport Yeah, and that had all kinds of issues going on sure There's a different foam for a different solution Absolutely based upon the environment that you're in. Nice. Where do you where do we get this stuff? Where would the typical voice actor go to pick out some of this product online? Oh funny that you mentioned that Let me tell you George. That's why we're here. That's why we're here George I'm the North American rep for this company. I do have a site for what it's worth kegtrader.com They can come over there and take a look at the kits in the box, but they also have a brand-new service. Ta-da! Again mentioning that this company is out of Portugal But now in North America they have a little online website called acoustic shop and we can give you a promo code That is the 10% discount going on with Nam. Those people who are in voiceover reach out to me I'll give you a code you get to continue 10% discount for ordering anything online from out of the United States supply Awesome, that's what I would do. That's it sounds like a great deal Ron pleasure to meet you finally. We certainly know your name from the voiceover business I've seen your name too out there in the world, and I'm glad you guys are blogging and Nice to meet you George. Thanks for coming by appreciate it There we are Boy, we still had such a great time at Nam and Met some cool people like Ron Knight and you know acoustic panels like that very very important Yeah, I'm seeing more and more acoustical panel vendors at Nam Which means the more and more people are catching on how important acoustics are in their studios and more companies are making Innovative products that are affordable. That's the big thing. That's that's what I think set those Apart from what I've seen out there in terms of something that looks really different and customized and interesting But it's still affordable, right because there's a lot of really cool Panels out there that can get to three four hundred dollars per two by two for those diffusers and stuff So those are much more cost-effective really reasonably priced and cool-looking panels Alrighty well if you've just crawled out from under a rock Maybe you don't know that George and I are the top two guys when it comes to your home voiceover studio and We we build them we design them you actually use like CAD software and stuff. It's really cool We know what it's supposed to sound like and we want you to sound the way We want you to sound because we know what it's supposed to sound like Yeah, exactly We've heard of we we've heard a thing or two so we know a thing or two thing Exactly yeah, I mean can we use that or we get to probably well you need you paraphrased it. That's okay That's that's not a copyright issue, but The fact of the matters is we've heard literally thousands of different home voiceover studios and Amazing what we hear usually it's like you don't have the right input or you've got the microphone backwards Stop stuff like top two head slappers Mike facing the wrong way wrong input in your recording software It's pretty simple stuff when you get down to it but if you would like to talk to George and Have some time with him and get your stuff fixed or totally designed How would they do that? You can find me over at George the dot tech or for those that find that Confusing you can go to George the tech comm and I've got all sorts of services starting as little as 25 bucks on up to pretty elaborate stuff designing studios and everything in between you can schedule online and Find my calendar and get on my calendar writing all in one place. All right, and if you need to talk to me Yeah, keep trying you go to Dan at Dan Leonard calm or my my home page Which is home voiceover studio calm and I've got my specimen collection cup there You click on that. It's a drop box. Give me your audio and I'll give it a review They're starting to pile up in there a little bit because I was out of town for 48 hours in Florida Which is a whole nother story, but But we'll be getting to those this week and I will analyze people's audio and we'll try and get you sounding good Anyway, we have a listener question a tech question. We really do which we have not read So it's like we're going to be like using telepathy to figure this one real-time Yes, this is from Carly rush. Hi guys. My problem is driving me crazy I have a centrance mic port pro that has been an inexpensive adequate for the most part interface However, I cannot get my mic audio high enough through the headphone jack My computer audio output in my headphone volume on my mic port pro are at the max But I just barely get by with a pair of Walkman headphones Well, I can't get the audio output loud enough for regular studio headphones The volume on anything I listen to on the internet though on the mic port pro is too loud at the same level And I have to have the audio level at my mic output on the headphones Do I need a new interface? If so, can you recommend a decent inexpensive interface that will solve my problem? There's the other there you go to juxtapose opposed words Inexpensive and solve problem, you know, that's that's that's what I look for. Yeah stuff That's in an expensive and solves problems I those are to the top of the criteria when I'm selecting anything for voiceover studios your thoughts I have my ideas and what's going on here, but well, there's some magic words not in the question That's true Mac or Windows not in there I don't think it's either because the mic port if you're talking about the monitoring circuit the part that lets you hear yourself When you're on the mic the zero latency monitoring part that is hardwired inside the actual mic port pro It's in the circuit whether it's plugged into any computer as long as it's getting power You should be able to hear yourself your own mic in your cans nice and loud good and hot I've never had problems getting a good output. So if that's what you're talking about Then I think it might be hardware. I think the mic port pro itself might be dying a slow and painful death Yeah, well, what do you think? Oh, well, it's missing something else and that is a picture of her waveform She may be recording way too low. She may have what which doesn't tell us what Mike She's using she may have the 10 DB pad on there or 20 DB pad or something like that, right? And she may not be loud enough In the recording in which case you really got to drive the game to bring it up Right because the audio and anything I listen to on the internet through my mic port is too loud at the same level Okay, yeah, so we don't know what microphone. She's using does the mic have a pad exactly if the mic's pad is on You can crank the gain wide open and still get a kind of a weak signal, right or or she's talking through her laptops But Mike that's another possibility. I mean If you're if you're recording yourself Through the mic port pro and monitoring yourself through the mic port pro You should get a good monitor of yourself in your headphones through the mic port pro You should get a nice hot level. You could try a little experiment We don't know what recording software you're using another little detail that would have been helpful but if you're on something like twisted wave for example, you could turn on the Monitoring system and twisted wave and see what we'll actually let you hear what comes through plug your headphones Into the Mac or piece if it's twisted wave would be a Mac plug your headphones in the Mac and you would hear the audio That's it's going through Twisted wave and back into the mic port pro So you'd hear the sort of the whole the whole journey as it comes back around if that's too low and the levels in twisted wave are healthy Then it's definitely something with the mic port pro that's probably needs to be checked out. Yeah, all right You know, she said the recording levels. She didn't say anything about the recording level. That's what's missing here Right. Yeah, so I'm thinking she's just recording too low Which could be due to a number of factors, which is why when you talk to us we ask you lots of questions We do we do and if you're in the chat room right now, Carly if you're watching the show live You know Give us some more detail. Well, we'll tell you what give us more detail We'll follow it up after Tim or maybe Tim might have I'll bet you he'll have his own ideas. He might have his own ideas This is a special night where we've got another Studio tech pro on the show with us. So he might be able to fill in some planks as well But give us a few more details macro windows What are the recording levels look like in your DAW Mike what Mike are using and what doll are you using all four things that we'd love To know to help better answer Your question so all right by the way, we're in Chris Tom studio tonight Oh, yeah, you know our producer thought this was his bathroom Actually, no, this is this is closet booth and it's really pretty the way he did that. Yeah, I love it I love the studio. It feels very comfy and spacious. It feels like where we belong in here It looks like we're actually in it too, which is even better So if you'd like to get your picture of your home studio from this perspective on voiceover body shop Send it into us at the guys at VOBS dot TV. Yeah, and we'll get your picture Notice how well Tim shot is formatted for the show. Yes, you know, it looks it really looks like we're sitting in this room Which I think is really fun. All right Okay, well tim tippets is coming up lots of interesting stuff to talk to him about so stay tuned We'll be right back here on voiceover body shop Are you confused about how to set up and maintain a professional quality voiceover studio? No wonder the information out there is mostly mythology This is the best microphone to use. You'll have to have a preamp. 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You can start trying it right away Tell them we sent you we'd appreciate it and we'll be right back with tim tippets and bye Learn the latest in voice over technology business a good old-fashioned actor. Hey pa I really like your soup. Where did you get it? Looks good on This is v obs All right, we're back time to introduce our guest tim tippets Is an independent full-time voice town composer and media producer providing services to a variety of clients at all levels Major brands include new balance lexus nissan sears sasks tell i wonder if that's like in canada Uh craftsman marvista entertainment amway and many more He also advises fellow voice talents on the finer points of voice over recording technology Let's welcome to voice over body shop tim tippets. Hi tim Hey, how are you guys doing? Oh pretty good. Great to great to see you here today. Um You've got quite a strong resume here. Um Well, I know but tell us a little bit about tim tippets So I was born in la raised in hollywood and I was really fortunate to uh as a as a young musician around 13 or 14 years Old to get some really great mentors in my life And at that time I started playing live Any venue I could find, you know coffee shops and and poetry type of things and from there As I started to develop more as a rock guitarist I I gained even more Mentors and these people brought me into a world that I just couldn't even possibly imagine existed At the pro level We're really fortunate to have been in a lot of really high level studios around a lot of high level musicians And of course being a very curious kid I would ask a lot of questions and apparently I wasn't annoying people Too much because they were willing to share their information And through that I learned quite a bit at a very young age. And so as I continued to develop You know continuing to develop these relationships continuing to develop time in studios Live bands various iterations throughout my teens and adult life that eventually Kind of turned into an interest into electronics and audio And I started getting more involved in that started actually etching out And acid washing my own pcb boards To make my own effects for guitar And so for yeah, I really got into it big time. Nice started frankensteining a lot of stuff Hey players and my mom would bring home from any garage sale should bring home like a You know like a record player or something like that and I would just you know, I learned to solder I learned what capacitors were I learned what resistors were and I brought all this stuff together And I would I would even take motors and parts from these things and start making little boats out of Wood Right So anyway that that kind of went on and on and on and eventually I just kind of became the the go-to guy for You know my keyboard's not working. Can you figure out what's wrong with the thing? And so I wrote it for a while of course And as I was going through these various iterations of bands playing and them also being a studio musician I began to pick up more and more information filling the blanks with all the sorted tails of being a roadie Oh, geez It was the 80s and nobody Every everyone wants to know but you don't want to know what happens on the road stays on the road And what happens in the 80s stays in the 80s. Yeah some shades of gray um, so anyway, so uh through that experience I you know eventually kind of grew up and uh decided to get serious about music and you know started doing more session work and got more serious about my career as a musician and eventually I landed uh this gig for herbie handcock As a producer where I would mix Perform record hit songs to teach people how to sing It was this big project that he had created and that was done with four tracks and samplers and so on and so forth And so at that time I was pretty much forced to learn as much as I possibly could because You know herbie's a pretty big deal And I I got a step up and I need to sound really really good And so I was able to accomplish that and that led into being signed by all nations music and That kind of spun off into being released on internationally on this maxi disc for For a band that you've all heard of I won't go into all that but it was basically covering their song in a different style and so through all of that I started a family and Then you know stuff got real. Yeah, that's what usually cuts into all the other stuff Yeah, exactly when you do you you have your relative importance and nothing's more important to me than family. Okay so Being a tradesman if you're an la and you're a musician you're a painter More than likely and I was but I expanded on that and learned as much as I could about the trades and Eventually that led me to becoming a corporate guy And so I was with Chipotle Mexican girl for seven years as the central head of construction and lot of r&d a lot of Programming a lot of I was on their Darwin committee for the evolution of the brand and I think I joined now in 34 stores And I got out of there around 800 and something stores Obviously they were hugely successful But after that I went on to this company potbelly as an executive there Again same role building systems and leading teams To execute and all the time picking up a lot of information believe it or not at Chipotle Especially sound was something that was really really important to them. I got to ask you sidebar Did you have anything to do whatsoever if the diffusion panels that are on the wall? In Chipotle's when you walk in that are on the left side as you're waiting in line Did you have anything to do with that you can't miss them? I was actually gonna that's exactly where I was going with that. Um, the architects over there. Um, Just amazing. I mean these guys are brilliant all of the in-house designers and they really Uh, really understood what it was that was going on in the stores acoustically So you may see them on the sides and you see them on the corrugated lid You may see them in any, you know particular part of the store But the before and after of those treatments And I can't recall the the name of them, but they kind of look like They kind of look like ramen noodles before you cook them, right? Oh, yeah, yeah Actually, I think of it as more like a shredded wheat A shredded wheat. Yeah, okay. That would be a kind of like that same idea. I had a reek would actually probably work Which is Gradable, but you know, yeah We would But first of all the stuff was not cheap That's for sure because I had to fit that stuff in my budget, but talk about effective. I mean really really effective And uh, yeah, so while I was there with chipotle, uh, you know, get deep diving into that kind of stuff and just a lot of MEP mechanical Electrical plumbing stuff like that. You learn an awful lot Uh, when you're leading teams and you and you really need to know every single detail about what it is That's going on and the sound Attenuation was a big part of that and so Since I already had a huge interest in that that just carried over into everything that I was doing Moving forward now speaking of that fast forward Through my tenure with potbelly I decided that I needed a change of course in my life and so I went independent And uh went out to bell air and built a big 20 million dollar mansion as an owner's rep And then decided, you know what? I really need to get back to my roots And so I did and so what I did is I'm I'm very much a believer in taking everything Uh, kind of like little uh, you know points laser points and putting them on one thing and focusing them there And then giving it a name And it turned out that that thing was what I was in already, which was you know, composing music Which is something that I do but also voiceover. Oh by the way, richard harris said those panels we're describing are I believe you said tectum Panels tectum perfect. Thank you. See tum He's spot on tectum is exactly what they're called uh, so, uh, anyway, it turns out that when I pinpointed all of these, uh attributes that I have, uh, that thing was called voice over And so I got into voice over and I was lucky enough to succeed early on But uh one thing that I would like to to let everyone know out there Um, especially musicians Um When you're a musician and an engineer and you're used to working in environments where you can throw a gate on a On a strat that's losing its mind, you know, when you're not playing and it's just buzzing all over the place Or a vocalist on a sm 58 that might have a ground loop or whatever and you just gate the thing You go into voice over thinking to yourself Yeah, this isn't going to be a problem. Uh, yeah, it is And it's going to be a big problem because they are not the same thing at all And we see this all the time, you know, george dan I know you understand this when people are online and they're looking for help and they're asking very simple questions Uh, suddenly everyone in that forum wants to sound like the smartest guy in the room You know, yeah, we call and we support by committee tech support by committee don't crowd source your home Doesn't always work out too well for you. Right exactly. So there's a lot of you know responses like well, it depends or Uh, you know, big flowery words $5 words where you know a quarter word will suffice that kind of stuff And you know compression for instance and someone's trying to understand what it is the compression does And it just it just really gets to me when someone doesn't just break it down for them simply and at least give them some idea By saying look, it's an it's an automatic volume leveler to some degree like say something Right, you know, you're controlling the the the peaks of the amplitude to to whatever degree Uh, but again, uh, the world of music Is an area while I have a great deal of respect for engineers in in the music industry They don't you know, there are plenty of them who who absolutely know what it is that they're doing The voiceover thing is a completely different animal. Yeah a good example of that Yeah, we we learned that along the way too. Yeah, that's that's kind of how I came into it Just seeing how many people didn't get voiceover studios Right and and and the thing is as as as we're saying always saying this stuff was designed all the equipment We have was designed for recording music and the rooms you're in the studios the spaces, right? So we're just adapting all of this equipment for our use So what's your philosophy on what a home studio should be then? Well, let me tell you my philosophy, uh came in a very organic way because what I did being a construction specialist and What I mean by that is I can you know, I'm not bragging I'm just kind of giving you an idea of Where I'm at with with what it is I know how to do is I can build a home from the ground up every bolt every You know every piece of wood the whole nine yards. So I truly get it and so When I entered the fray here, I said, well, I'm going to build a booth and it's not going to be a problem and uh, you know, I'm going to build a control room just like everybody else and I did that and then I stepped into my booth and I live about I don't know Maybe 50 yards from a fairly major intersection And I got in there with the TLM 103 Which you know if you haven't eaten or you just ate that idea to voice like a seismograph. Yeah, really So I'm sitting here standing there and I'm voicing and I'm starting to hear earth noise and it's You know, 18 wheelers are going by and I'm hearing the cocoon cocoon, you know across my intersection And I just said wow, I really missed the mark. So being an r&d guy. I dug deep and I really uh was earnest about Understanding what was happening at a physical level Uh and how it is that I could uh get rid of everything mitigate everything that could possibly come into my into my booth now me I've been accused several times of being the type of person who Gets assigned something and then I go into a cave for a while and then I come out with the answer and But I'm very thorough. I become obsessed with the answer and I sense calm down with that, but Really when I took my approach Toward, you know making sure that my booth was absolutely 100 soundproof Which there's no such thing, but that's what I was shooting for Um, I really really took a deep dive on it and so I you know all the usual suspects I was I was decoupling I was using green glue I was taking everything that I had learned from my past experience about about sound And applying it to the booth and so when I finally finished The city had shown up to cut a tree down that they had been promising to cut for about three years The thing was just tangling up our power lines And uh, they showed up and I said well, what a great opportunity to test just how Good my booth is and so I went down there and I started up audition And I started voicing And about 20 minutes went by and I you know, frankly, I got a little p. Ode and uh, because I you know They hadn't started yet. So I went upstairs and I said to my wife, uh, what is the problem? Uh, she said what do you mean? I said he's gone Yeah, not only were they gone But uh, she told me the story of how they had thrown everything into a chipper And there's nothing louder than the chipper. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, this thing this thing's 35 feet from my booth Wow. Yeah. So at that point I said, okay, I've got something here And uh, you know, I I continued to to research and research and research To to dig even even deeper, which is typical of me But I had finally come to the conclusion that okay, I got you know, I got the judge Yeah, yeah, and in that story, uh, Tim Yeah, is the experience you had Why should someone have to go through that themselves and do all the research and take all the time and make Mistakes when you or george or I or other people who know how to do this Know how to do this and have done it more than once they shouldn't have to and that's why I do this So I got called the vio tech guru, uh, which you know to me I don't particularly like the name because it sounds like i'm coming off the mountain with tablets in my hands um, but You know look at stuck it became a brand whatever and and people come to me all the time as they do you and george and You guys don't need to go through that the the all of the heavy lifting has been done already There is a lot to know about this kind of stuff and you don't need to drive yourself nuts Going to this youtube video or that youtube video Because honestly at least 90 of the guys on there really just They're kind of leveling out at just okay right and they're they're experts in one studio Exactly that's a that's a really really good way to put it a good example of that would be an australian client that I had where And i'm sure you guys have dealt with this before because they are Quite a bit ahead of us In time and you're up, you know very late helping them Uh, I had a person who had a roof that was uh corrugated So when it rained there's no vo period, right? Yeah, it doesn't really matter what kind of booth you have at that point um, but to your point uh, dan The thing is is that You know, we do this stuff Because we care about this we don't do it Uh, because you know, we at least I can speak for me I as I said earlier, you know, I I don't really like the the name vio taguru very much But I am very passionate about helping people who are searching for answers Who are feeling lost in the sea of information Because there is so much information out there and some of it's correct a lot of it's not but as as talent who is Looking to get into the business. It's already scary A lot of these people are taking a leap of faith Based on a calculation, right? And who knows what that calculation might be It might be something that weighs very heavily against their favor if they don't succeed Uh, they may be in a situation where they're retired and they're just you know Just kind of having some fun. Who knows that's right But the reality is go ahead go ahead finish up your thought there Yeah, the reality is these people take this stuff seriously and they want to they want to succeed When they succeed and I'm helping them to succeed I succeed, right? It's a huge payoff for me. I got a lot of karma bucks in the bank You know, I can make more money uh with compositions more money voicing Uh than I do with helping people But the reality is guys, you know this the home studio is the expectation at this point Yep, and that's right. You just have someone come to you You know being an expert and ask for your help and just kind of say well, you know Go ahead and it's on the web somewhere. Yeah Our guest tonight here on voiceover body shop is tim tippets the vio tech guru So he says or so somebody said so he was done. 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I've got at least two of them In a world of audio two men knew what they were doing or at least they have you convinced They put the bs and v obs dot tv Having dinner tonight How about having some vo too voiceover body shop have some voice over with your dinner tonight on voiceover body shop nine eastern six specific And we're back with tim tippets here on voiceover body shop And we've got lots of questions from our voluminous audience all across the fruited plane and across The globe we know there's people watching in australia in japan and in nirobi Maybe We hope well we could we can kind of dovetail off that question from earlier because we got some more Details from carly rush about her mic port pro so you can you can chime in on this one tim Yeah, tim. I don't know if you heard it from earlier, but basically in a nutshell She's getting very low levels off her mic port pro and she doesn't know why but now we know more about her setup because she has an mxl 2001 microphone She's on a pc Well, there's your problem. It's not a it's not a desktop. I mean, it's not a laptop. It's a pc uh desktop Um, she doesn't know what a pad is we were talking about a switch on the mic that turns on a pad So we'll talk about that. Um, and she's recording an adobe audition It's the mic only she says that's the problem her output into adobe is great So apparently she's getting great recording levels and very low monitoring levels What's been your experience tim with the mic port pro? So her playback is low Yeah, she's saying her her level off her own off of her own mic in her headphones Is really low with everything cranked wide open as loud as she can get So there are the obvious questions, which is do you have the headphone volume turned up which you know We always start with is the thing plugged in she says she has her um My computer audio output and my headphone volume on my mic port pro are at the max. That's what she said Hmm Well now that she's provided all of this additional information because I was listening in to the original question um You know It it sounds like you've got a bad unit. It does could be yeah, I'd be time for a new interface Yeah, but you have many she has an mxl 2001 so unless I she's says she's getting good recording levels in audition Yeah, so the pad's not going to make a difference if she's getting levels is she is she Uh, I don't know if she can answer But if she is she maintaining somewhere between minus six and minus 12 on her peaks, you know What kind of levels are we talking about here? Yeah, right? I know from experience if you turn up the headphone volume on the mic port pro with your cans plugged into the little jack wide open you unless you've got some esoteric studio headphones 600 ohm headphones You should get a good volume. You should hear yourself George. Um Do me a favor touch on this because we have We have the bear dynamics Uh the 80 ohm and then we have the 250s and the 600 they have a 600 So if you could say a little something right here because this is something that I tell people all the time about the 80s You're a big fan of the 80s. I'm a big fan of the 80s One of the reasons that I'm a huge fan is because I can plug them into my iphone or any other device And add very little resistance. Yeah, I mean in a nutshell When you're looking at headphones and there's more than one model Under the same model number it can be confusing if you have dt 770 pro But they have an 80 a 250 I think they may still make a 600 Go with the ones with the lower ohm rating. Basically the lower the ohm rating or the impedance rating Generally the easier they are to drive what that means is they can get louder Plugged into an iphone or an mic. They have they have less resistance. Yeah, they're easy to drive That's what impedance is for anyone who's listening is it's Basically how much resistance you're giving to that flow that's coming in So if you have 250s, you're gonna need a lot more power to drive those And so I saw a recent post about what sort of preamp should I get to drive these 250s as a voiceover artist I just thought that should have got the 80s. Yeah, I have to agree with that If otherwise, there's no audible difference between them that I'm aware of, you know We were talking earlier about building studios At what point I want to ask you this at what point is it appropriate to go to the extent That you did to build your studio Say hiring somebody like yourself to design it and having a contractor build it At what point is it appropriate to do that? Do you do that within five years 10 years? Is it once you land a big Promo client when is it when you spend that kind of money or when you think it's going to get you work immediately? Right. Oh, that's I think that that is something that we should probably what dan just said is address that first So where I'm at on this is people will enter the fray buying the best equipment the best booth The most expensive interface And they haven't even gotten a coaching yet It does happen. I've I've had two of those Yeah, when I have people come to me and I say, hey, send me a sample When they send me a sample the very first thing that I'll do is I'll meet with them and I'll say, you know In a very the kindest manner that I possibly can is I say, hey, you've got a little bit of work to do Before you try to go down this runway. All right, and that is it, you know in the form of getting coached Because it doesn't really matter. How could you sound? If the read isn't there, right at the end of the day So, uh, I'm very honest and upfront about that but to answer your question About at what point should you take that approach? For me, it's not a matter of time. It's a matter of attitude. It's a matter of your goal What is it that you're trying to accomplish? If the answer is I want to kill it In voiceover Okay, and you know That you've got the chops You know that this thing is going to happen. You've done your homework. It's in your bones It's in your bones. You have talked You have talked and worked with with the dan Leonard or george widdum or tim tippets and you know these people have verified Yes, you're good to go Then the answer is now In my opinion, take it seriously and go for it now If you're on a budget It becomes a different discussion because as we've seen with the studio suit, for instance that that dan and his wife So generously put together for many many vo out there And there are other ways to to to skin that cat as well with moving blankets and so on and so forth There are many ways that you can get yourself at a pro level sound george. You've talked about this ad nauseam A closet. I've talked about it ad nauseam. It could be a closet We've seen sip riano do is what I call the sip tent in the hotel with Right, I mean there's a lot there are a lot of ways to get it done that guy even voices in a car Yeah, because nobody really needs to see how the sausage is made I like that Been using it for years. It just comes up. I like that. Okay Yeah, that's that's actually really good. Um, it's it's Really a matter of Where you're at monetarily speaking relative to What it is that you're attempting to accomplish Don't go out and buy A $2,500 microphone and use a $60 interface Okay, I don't Have a $50 per job voice And use a $1,500 microphone Right, you've got to start somewhere and if you're just getting into the business then start simple Some of us are lucky enough to have a long runway. As I said in the tech sector, uh, how much runway you got It's basically how much money do you have to start your business? You know, if you're coming in it with a $20,000 budget You know it good for you. You're blessed and yeah, but if you've got if you've got great equipment It doesn't matter if you don't know how to use it Which is pretty important as well Yeah, it doesn't matter if you don't know how to use it, right Yeah Early indications can also because the market dictates what it is that it wants from you, right at the end of the day That's right Tim we got so much stuff We got to cover because we're getting a lot of questions and we're not gonna get to everything We we put on our list tonight, but that's good because that means we need to have you back Right another time, but before we go to the questions I got a touch on our favorite gear that we that we like to gush about We'll put a few minutes into this. Okay, let's give it a I'm gonna set a five minute timer. Okay, legitimately because everybody's asking about this because we We could go on for a while I'm setting a five minute timer to talk about this thing And go what is the Apollo stuff? Why are you so into it? I'll put in my two cents Okay, the Apollo stuff. Wow. Okay. So whether you're running a rack, you're running a quad You're running a twin. You're running a duo whatever it may be The great thing about the Apollo, which you're hearing me on right now Uh through the through the manly box box plugin Is that you get to have real time Effects running and printing to tape for those of you who don't understand what tape is It's what we used to record to On these real to real, but digitally speaking it allows you to go in sounding your best Um, and of course we always kiss the audio with these effects. We don't try to mash it or anything like that It's just Most of it is about removing what it is that we don't want to improve the signal Okay, and and printing to tape to give our clients the best possible Signal that we can now that's true for both Uh recording at home on your own and also true for recording in a live session I've had live sessions where I've had several people ask me. What are you running over there? Right and when you have that going on live and you're making it that much easier on the engineer because you're just kissing the The peaks you're you're uh, you know your eq is removing the boxiness from the booth You're rolling off the low end So, you know, I have a bunch of this stuff migrating into your signal a bunch of these low frequency Things that are oh, yeah Yeah, it really makes a huge difference guys a huge difference and so when you're able to take that And emulate a studio sound while you're traveling and you can take that gear with you Especially with something like the 416 that rejects a lot of a lot of sound By the way, I get asked this a lot. So I'm gonna touch on this real quick. You guys can see the uh Looks like a 416 to me Okay, what those are all about those little holes there. Let me put the back on the line gradient Yeah, those basically cancel each other out as sound comes in through the side of the capsule. Okay And that is a huge benefit because when I'm this close to this microphone And I'm getting that kind of gain I can lower the actual gain on my input which makes my noise floor go down Which only helps me so when I'm in a live session, you know I'm I'm the bee's knees for lack of a better way to put it and when you're going to be Apollo doing that and you're able to Save that session And then recall it later so that you can have more of a promo sound or you can have a more of a youthful sound I mean, I've I've got so many settings in this in this thing at this point. It's ridiculous I even have a Darth Vader Setting that I set up for this thing, you know, there's a there's a lot of things that you can do I you know this this talk this get into gets gets into Advanced level stuff and the reason I say this because we're talking about front end processing You you are recording through a signal chain and Dan and I have preached pretty heavily against doing this for most voice actors Because if it's not set up right Yeah, it's not going to help you're printing the effects So like if it's not right if the gates losing bits of syllables or whatever is going on It can it can be a really bad scene. So but if you know what you're doing Like tim tippets does it's a great tool to have Yeah, and if you can get someone like tim and I dealt with the apollos a lot too Chances are dan's going to be at one of these days. He's gonna have to yeah Of the apollos stuff is can be fantastic. It's it's a it's a digital Emulation of real physical gear that you would not normally dream about taking on the road with you You would not take a rack of gear this thick In a suitcase and take it but with this thing you can get that sound that you had at home And take it on the road. You can replicate it. You can have a lot of settings And do it relatively affordably. I mean it it comes out of the box for what 4.99 for the new Apollo arrow. Oh, yeah Yeah, I'm I'm supposed to be sent one here in the near future to give it a review and yeah I'll pull up with that but you know, that's why I teach that stuff Is to get people to understand and I'm doing the same thing at vio Atlanta this round I'm having a big session on the fundamentals of sound. We're also going to hold two x sessions where we're Building these panels that you see behind me here. Cool 10 people each and that's that's filling up We only have a few spots left so anyone who's interested who's going check that out, please but That is exactly why I teach That stuff is because when you understand what's happening with sound at a molecular level Oh, there's the alarm. I guess we're done talking about apollos. Yeah Finish your thought and then we'll go to the questions when you do truly understand that stuff What you do is what I call the tech gremlin you kick them out of your booth forever And when you do that stress goes down which results, believe it or not In less mouth noise and the obvious things better performance confidence And so on and so forth. So Anyway, I guess that's all we have to say about apollos today. Oh, it's today I'm sure there'll be plenty go on we could Uh, we have a question here from devox for renters For renters because we deal with this all the time. What's the best way to treat a ceiling? Depends on the room I suppose I guess he's talking about how to keep noise from coming into a ceiling. Yeah, I'm going to fill in the blanks on that Yeah, oh, wow. So you don't you're not attaching stuff to the ceiling. I think is what he's probably saying So, yeah, let me I'll I'll I'll just cut to the chase here. So Sound is vibration Um energy in the form of vibration. All right So if you have vibration coming through that lid and you don't have something that is going to stop it such as You know layering up drywall with green glue in between it or anything like that. There's not a whole lot that you can do about it Uh, that's really bad news. I get that but There are a lot of things that you can do to help mitigate that Moving blankets are a great example of that George you guys still with me here. So we had our mic quiet because we were Commiserating about our questions. So yeah, so So moving blankets There are there's a company vocal booth to go comm That sells some really super thick blankets. Um, they've sent me some I love them I think they work really really well. You can set up pvc structure and throw those over Dan if i'm not mistaken you use the studio suit to do that over a pvc structure at one point Yeah, yeah, we don't have studio suit anymore We're thinking about reproducing it because it was a limited supply of stuff, but okay. Well, we're in the great though Yeah, in the meantime these moving blankets I know that uh deal the owner of vocal booth to go comm travel to china to make sure that these things were Exactly what they should be. They're thicker than any other moving blanket. I've ever seen Um, and apparently there were some issues with the smells who flew out there and he straightened all that stuff out And I've got the boy that is that is huge the fact that he dealt with and made sure that the product has a minimal Off-gas of odor. That's a big deal. Yeah, these things are going to be used in small spaces. They can't stink That dude is something else man. He actually on the road with his van and he's got four cameras On his van and he broke a world record a world, uh, genus Book of world records The longest trip inside the united states without following another highway. I guess you can't take the same highway I was 30 something thousand miles. We'll have to ask a deal about that. We need to have Atlanta. Yeah Totally here in chicago and we did this thing with his with his booth and his new thing the voma, which is amazing I did a test on that which i'll be releasing some results on but you know that that kind of stuff guys If you put together a simple pvc Structure, uh, dominant king is a is a recent student of mine who Man, did he ever improve his signal? He had the two i2 kit george I think you actually have that on one of your pages Where it has the headphone and the two i2 if i'm not mistaken and the microphone Do you have that one? I don't think I do now, but at one time I probably did Yeah, we both have kit.com's I have I have that one. Oh, you have the steinberg I have the yeah the the 12 Okay, so I tried out this two i2 package, which I really liked and I have it on Com you have your your stuff over there He had the kit or he had that that two i2 package and he Built this pvc structure used the moving blankets that I talked about he's probably 10 feet away from the refrigerator We set him up with eq With proper downward expansion With a little bit of compression. We used rx elements For voice denoise and d-click and man it sounds as good as any booth. I've ever heard And he got away with that build for let's see 100 bucks on pvc and 170 so under 300 bucks Yeah, I mean if you have a quiet enough environment where you're not getting huge amounts of low frequency Garbage from the outside you don't need a heck of a lot to treat your ceiling You don't have to go crazy And you don't need to know a heck of a lot either if you have someone If you have someone in your camp who knows what they're doing that you can truly trust and who cares about the result Okay, they're not just in it for the money. They want to see you succeed You can get to that answer And not spend a whole lot of money and greatly improve Your signal There's there's no doubt about it. I've done it many times george and on the same thing There's two more questions. Um, they At the end of the day, they're both talking about low frequency noise Fred's is Fred north says about I have slight vibration from the furnace Furnace which is below my boot. I think he means booth to other people place to put my booth in no other place to put my Booth I've got eight small vibration pads that the booth sits on but I still get some noise And evoc says I was told they were planning to realign the flight path to the city airport to fly near my neighborhood 1,000 feet overhead Estimated at 66 db at ground level What can one do besides move? Okay You can decouple That's one thing because what's going on here is that lower frequencies have longer wave forms And not only are they able to penetrate better than higher frequencies We see this in two inch foam versus a four inch foam The two inch will take care of the high frequencies But not so much the low frequencies because they just have a lot more power without going into the details Low frequencies will also flank. So if you have an opening somewhere They will go up and over and this has to do with this longer wave form thing. All right, so What happens in a structure? Like a house for instance is if you think about a speaker cabinet and you put a speaker inside of it What is the intent of that speaker cabinet? Okay, it's intended to amplify and to bring out a lot of the character of what it is that's going on with the music Now think about your house and those vibrations which I talked about earlier Traveling up through the structure of your home through the two by fours Through the through the drywall and so on and so forth If that's happening like you have a mechanical unit that's attached to the house or you have a plane that's flying overhead They're sending down these vibrations. These vibrations are hitting your structure And then this room is basically becoming a giant speaker cabinet at the end of the day So these low frequencies that are migrating into your space is no surprise at all But decoupling using a lot of uh of modern materials such as green glue with a proper application People talk about mass. I get it mass is very helpful when it comes to to mitigation But the reality is at the end of the day if you're smart about it and dan you you you made this happen with the studio suit The best way to handle migrating noise is to think of treating noise That's attempting to come in By using a catcher's mitt That's the best analogy that i've ever really been able to to put to this thing If you think about it 100 mile an hour fastball comes at you you've got a catcher's mitt How does that not breaking that guy's hand? Right. Well, it has several several layers of very soft and pliable stuff going on before it's the palm of his hand And if you treat sound mitigation the same way and you allow Those low those low frequency vibrations to hit those objects and to vibrate against them in a way much like a pillow Right, we've seen it in every gangster movie ever when someone uses one as a silencer for instance, right? But the reality of the situation is you're catching the sound If you have hard if you have hard, you know stable fixed objects They just don't do a good job and decoupling them from those structures really helps you a lot obviously because the vibration can't migrate Into whatever structures attached to it. So That's that's that's a pretty good sum up of that. There's one last one from austin rising a major brown nosing question A fan of yours. He says What is it like being omnipotent with all things recording in gear related? Oh wise one. Is it ever boring to slum it with us? We're mortals who sometimes don't know the difference between our output and our input levels. Please do tell god This has been a running joke and It's been one of those things where we just kind of go back and forth online and I don't know what to say about austin other than dude, you're funny you're very very funny and I don't know. He's a great guy and he's he's always throwing stuff out there So I guess the only way I can answer the question is to say stay tuned Keep bringing you this information The people who are on this video right now care very much I know this for a fact About you guys and continuing to educate you to the best of our ability And get you sounding the absolute best that you can And hoping that you succeed with everything it is that we pass on Well, we really appreciate you coming on tim if somebody wants to get a hold of you How would they do that aside from grabbing your arm? They can go to info at vio tech guru dot com. Okay info at vio tech guru dot com And george and I are both on opencoaches.com. So if you want to go there and hire us for something Can hit us up there Easy enough to do and uh, yeah, you know, if you send me a quick email You want to have a quick skype discussion? About what you're dealing with and then we can kind of create a plan for you That's another thing that you can do as well. Just reach out to me on email And I'll be happy to answer your questions super duper tim. Thanks for being with us tonight. It's been very enlightening Come back again. Yeah, we'll get you on for an audio table or an audio master's round table That'll be interesting. All right. Thanks again. All right. 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That's voiceover x t r a dot com It's so great to see that you got it here in person. So tell us what the smash mouse can do for a voice actor in their studio Yeah, so uh, thanks again, george. So smash mouse is a universal pedal to control your device's hands free So it's a fully functioning mouse. You put your foot on it rotate your ankle Smash it in the middle for left click, but you can also hit this mode button and now it's playback So it's all your playback toolbar functionality So if you want to record now It's just one kick to click and you can do all your hands free animation and all that passion that your voiceover community uses And only use this to control their device hands free. Excellent. Now. How does it connect to your system? Great. So it's windows and mac os compatible. It has usb and bluetooth connectivity So for those people who like to really get away from their computer and be active They can use the bluetooth connection It's got a 12 hour rechargeable battery life as well Very cool. How are we going to get this thing and and how long do we have to wait? Yeah, so right now we're about to launch a kickstarter campaign. So you can go to uh, www.smashmouseusa.com Sign up for our email database. We'll keep you in the loop, but literally in a couple weeks We're going to launch kickstarter and here's what's really important. We're ready to go on production We just need the support of a community like yours Get a little funding to get that first model out there and we'll have it to market in four to six months So the other progress part for all of your listeners is instead of being 149.99, which will be our retail You can get it for 80 bucks on kickstarter. Whoo. That's fantastic, man. So, yeah Well, it's so great to see you up here in the main hall. Yeah, we're moving on up in the world, right? Yeah, the product is in your hand reconnecting with the great guy. So thanks, George Really appreciate it. See you again. Let's go to the next booth Whoo-hoo Every monday nine eastern six pacific voiceover body shot. I love when they talk. Yes, about you All righty we're back to say goodbye um Fascinating tim tippets has a lot of information there and uh, you know, he he knows what he's talking about There's no question. He's got years and years of experience and we really appreciate him joining us and uh Giving his uh, giving us his thoughts on that. Uh, next week on this show. We have Roger Rose Sweet. Yes, Roger Very entertaining The guy's been in show business for a long time. He was born into it So he's got many great stories. He knows the stuff when it comes to promo commercial You name it. Yeah, it's gonna be fun on the 26th of february Totally opposite totally different topic. Yeah, tracy lindley will be here. She'll talk about uh her linked in Professional linked in Marketing techniques, which are fascinating. Awesome. Uh march 5th because I have to pronounce this carlos alis rocky will be here All right, uh Great talent march 12th. Mike del gordo Wow, mike del gaudio is coming on. Holy crap. This is we've got quite a run of Vio's techie dudes I know and then march 19th dano day for those of you who are familiar with with his stuff Then on march 26, which is a long time in the future. Well, we'll have been in atlanta and it'll be here and gone Uh, dr. Uh, rina gupta who is a great rhino otolaryngologist Ear knows and throat doctor especially for voice actors. Yeah over at osborne headed neck and uh, that'll be fascinating Looking forward to talking to her again Uh, who are our donors of the week? Well, they aren't the ones that are on that list So let's pop over to the email real quick and take a look shall we we shall we need some donor of the week music one of these days? 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Well, that's gonna do it for us this week You know, we know it's not an easy business. You got to be good at what you do Your sound has to be right We're here for you to make sure that your sound sounds the way it's supposed to so join us every week here on voiceover body shop I am dan lennard and i am george widdum and this is voiceover body shop or v o b s