 Still, the breakfast and plus TV Africa, welcome back, just as the Ocean State All Progressives Congress is about to hold its primary election in the state on Saturday. The internal wrangling in the state is far from over, as a former governor of the state Raouf Aregbeshola and the incumbent governor of Ocean State Oyetola Boega are at loggerheads as they battle for supremacy. They have been accusations from both groups against each other, and it remains to be seen if they would sheet their thoughts before the primary election Saturday as a question on the minds of many people. Joining us now to discuss this are members of the All Progressives Congress in Ocean State. We would like to welcome at this point Mr. Dela Ni Baderiwahi, Secretary of Ocean State APC. He is also from Raouf Aregbeshola faction, if you permit me to say that. And Mr. Kolalabisi is a media consultant to the Ocean State governor. Gentlemen, thank you very much for your time and thanks for joining us. Let's start from Mr. Baderiwahi Dela Ni. What's former governor Raouf Aregbeshola's issue with the current governor and of course with him his political benefactor, the leader of the All Progressives Congress, Bola Metunibu. He's called him a god recently. Thank you very much. The situation with us in Ocean is like when somebody spent eight years with you as the chief of staff and it didn't raise the eyebrow. As a cabinet commissioner, I am aware that anything that goes through Raouf as a governor must first of all pass through the chief of staff. Anything that is coming back to the commissioner must pass through the chief of staff. Therefore the former chief of staff and the current governor was in charge and there wasn't any problem for the whole of eight years. Evening rays are now brought at anything and we want to stay with us in the sense of responsibility that we found it out of place and to a large extent some sort of wickedness for him to become the governor and now start to condemn almost all the projects they did together, almost all the programs they did together, almost all the policies formulated together, become an object of condemnation and we felt, you know, if we continue like this, we won't get anything to campaign with. When Chifakode was governor and he was rigged out of office, part of what Raouf and Rebekah Shula used in campaigning when he came was the projects, policies and programs of Chifakode. Now if you rubbish all those programs, now what are we going to campaign with? That is on one hand. On the other hand, the party, the APC notion had been, you know, in crisis within itself with nobody, especially the outcome party chairman, you know, not doing anything about it. Almost all the 31 local governments in the state had crisis within the party and not one was resolved for that long. We felt it imperative for us to recreate the APC in the state of Osho and then to make sure that yes, we get it right. If you want to go to a place, you have a vehicle that doesn't have tire, that doesn't have brake. God save you if you'll be able to get to your destination and we felt Osho APC has to be recreated and that was the reason why we came up with the idea of forming ourselves into the Osho Progressives. In which case, we knew what we were talking about. All of the people working with the present government were actually, you know, people from other parties, particularly the PDP, to come and join us after we have won the election. We have to bring in your counterpart at this point. So what you're saying is that... I've not finished the point that I'm making and I'm not sure we are too over time. So can you just maybe summarize it in one sentence because of time? We have about five to six minutes. Well, it's impossible for me to summarize it in one sentence, otherwise. But let me help you, sir. But you are saying basically, yeah. I am saying to you that the party was in the midst in Christ's and that the fact that nothing was done about it, up until when we started raising eyebrow and we were not even going to do anything by ourselves. We wanted to consult so that we carry everybody along. The current governor was not home when we started. We had to squeeze criticism. Who came along? Okay, shortly after we came back from former governor, everybody in the governor, the last cabinet, rose against us and they started, you know, attacking us, right left hand center. All right, so, you know, so, so this is where the whole aggravation of the problem started from. Okay, I'll call Ola Abisi. You've had from your counterpart, your colleague in the party. And what do you say to his own theory as to the reasons why former governor of Aribeshiola is, you know, has been backing on this criticism of Tinibu and also governor Oyetola. Mr. Ola Abisi, are you there, please? OK, I would try to reconnect with Ola Abisi, who is the media advisor to the current governor of Washington State. But back to you, Mr. Dela Nia Badiwa. This this this reasons you've you've put forward as why former governor of Aribeshiola has been speaking or talking tough recently. For instance, I haven't been able to go to Aribeshiola yet. But some would say some would say it's yes, some would say, sir, it's simply about the control of the all-progressives Congress in in in in Osho State and the fact that in the local government and the warden local government congresses, Aribeshiola was not able to have his faction emerge and members of his faction emerge of CEDOS. We wanted to be the delegates and leadership ex-cov the party emerge. And that is the problem matters that are about three, four months ago. But I'm talking about issues that was over a year that had been honed for three years. They do not tell him in any way. I'm saying with all sense of responsibility, the fact that yes, we have a situation whereby the party has been in crisis all along. And in addition to that, that the governor came and shut out everybody that has anything to do with Aribeshiola. And nobody would be happy. The matter of politics is not about, you know, religion. It's about working and being, you know, paid back. And some believe if you if you mind, if you don't mind a word for what you have done, you know, everybody within Aribeshiola's of you are shut out of the system and all that. He came into the matter, you know, after a long week, thinking that, yes, things will be corrected. I'm aware that at one time or the other, I showed you intervene. And basically it was like it wasn't, you know, what was expected that came out of that meeting. OK. But at the end of the day, yeah, it has to be that, yes, it's a it's a fight of survivor and you must survive within the political situation not because of anything, not because of any because tell you what, after all, it is not so many people that will always have the opportunity to be a governor for eight years and still become a minister almost immediately. And therefore, for anybody to think that he has any stake in ocean beyond that everything should be better. We should continue to be in government, you know, like he fought to turn near. OK, yes, I was waiting for you to land. Adela and I, I was waiting for you to land. But I have another question for you, because you don't have too much time. Why the attacks on Bola Mettinbo by Ralf Aribesha? I mean, they've been political allies. Some will say that Mettinbo is his political benefactor, because, of course, it was he was commission. Nothing. I do not think he attacked them. He only stated his own side of the case. Everybody's been saying that, yes, he picked I showed you, picked him from the daughters and I am aware that this man, who to a large extent was seven made to some certain extent before, you know, he and Bola Mettinbo made. But in politics, he was not from Lagos State, but the terrible medium commission in Lagos State and then supported him to become governor in Osho State. By the time they met, he was contesting for the House of Representatives for a limo shofera constituency. When I showed you was contesting for the Senate seat for Lagos West. That was where they met under the purview of Chief Dakosha Sarumi, who had the primrose group then. And with that, he saw the innate capacity in him. And that was the reason why, you know, attracted him to his side. That is what happens in politics at all times. For me, for me, who is a smaller person? To a tribal scholar compared to a tribal scholar spoke by when he came into, you know, being a commissioner. I think it will be hard of place for anybody to say that he brought me from the daughters. I do not think it makes sense. And so he has to state his own side of the case, which he stated very well, you know, that yes, this is the situation between us. And I didn't see it as an attack. He was only making a statement of fact. All right. Anybody believe me? Mr. Baderiwa. Yeah, yeah. Thank you very much. But but Rao Faribah Shula is no longer the governor. He is no longer in power. Why does he? Yes. But why does he have an issue if the governor of the state decides to run his administration the way he deems fit? Does he want the governor to come consult him in Abuja on what to do per time? If the government decides to if the government decides to rubbish his projects, the only thing I want to put it to anybody who has fear of God in me to come and state once that I said that he wanted anything from me. That has not happened. And I've seen it with all you just said in here that I told I is running the administration without bringing in, you know, a rubbish a lot of referring to him rubbishing his projects, you know, and all that. Well, well, you won't be happy if you work very hard to make certain things happen. And you have somebody kicking it around wanting to destroy it. You won't be happy. Nobody will. I tell you, and I know that you will not be happy having such a situation. But but but the mechanisms for the party or for anybody who is aggrieved in a party to to to, you know, come out and control things and be in charge is through the processes of the primaries or the congresses right from the world level to the local government level. And then you go to the state level. And unfortunately for you and those in your side of the party, the ocean progressives, I read by Schellas, people have lost out. But the party is saying everything was transparent and and that's it. So why can't you submit to the party's processes and to say, OK, we lost out? We need to see the outcome of such decisions. I am aware, I am not a kid in politics. Point is about give and take. Nobody gives a straight line rule in political, you know, resolution of crisis. And I want to say with all sense of responsibility that yes, let us wait and see the outcome of what has been done. All right. Thank you very much. We will certainly bring you back tomorrow, sir. So we can have a robust, more robust discussion with your colleague from the other side. But Delaney Baderiwa is the secretary of the All Progressives Congress in Ocean State. Thank you very much for your time, sir. My pleasure, my brother. Thank you. Well, it's quite a very, very serious and hinted one in Ocean State. That's the secretary of the party in the APC going against his own political party, essentially. We will talk about the primary election for the All Progressives Congresses on Saturday in Ocean State. So we'll be watching what happens there. Thank you very much for your time. That said, on the breakfast this morning on Plus TV Africa, you can follow us on our social media pages, simply Central Plus TV Africa on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. And of course, on YouTube, where you can watch all our programs and all our content. My name is Kofi Beteros, return tomorrow. Thanks for watching and have a great day.