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No. We put the clip of Rad on, you know that shitty movie you guys like so. Stop doing that. Dude, don't say shitty. And it was the clip where, it was the clip where the guy's doing like a, I don't know what he's doing, like slow motion trick. It's like, send me an angel. Send me an angel. Because of the song, because it has like a, I don't know, it's got like some kind of a program that recognizes music, demonetized. It's not a big deal though, because, I mean, Andrew, you don't know this yet, but I had Holly pull that out of your check, so. So, when you fuck up like that, we just deduct it from his pay. That's not your fault. Watch that be one of the, watch that be one of the one spirals. No! Made us $10,000. I've never said that. Cool, right, Andrew? Yeah, because even on my Instagram, like all of these really old posts that had like a little bit of music in the background, they're just like pulled, they're just going through and clean the house right now. Yeah, they are. It's pretty crazy. You know, what's that one, it was like a meme or something a while ago that said that if you ever make a sex tape with your wife or whatever. Put Disney music in the back. Yeah, so if anybody ever posts it. Can't go viral. That's pretty, that's actually pretty brilliant. That is a really smart way to do it. There's only one challenge to that, is like picking Disney music to your sex video. You know what I mean? Yeah, where would you guys go? Show me the world. I can show you the world. Under the sea. Yeah, I feel like Aladdin is probably very well. Aladdin had the best soundtrack. Hold what, for sex? Yeah. No, just in general. Okay, but what's the best Disney song for sex? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I'm asking you guys. Like I don't have to think about that. If you had to pick a movie that it came from in Disney. We're far, we're, that's Titanic. Yeah, that's the wrong one. Gotta go cartoon. Hey babe, I'm going down. Listen. Titanic music. Hey, cartoon classic go. Which one, come on. Cartoon classic. Disney cartoon classic that you're having sex to. I want to hear. That I'm having sex to? Yeah. Oh, that's weird. I take Aladdin, you can't take it, so you gotta take it. I think it would be something from the Little Mermaid because I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. You would be Little Mermaid guy. She's kind of hot, bro. She's got the seashell thing going on. Yeah, but you, okay. I don't know, bro. You tell me what video I might have sex to. Or which song. Justin, what's up? I don't know, man. I don't really even remember. Like other than Aladdin. Acuna Matata. Yeah, hey guys. That's more appropriate. Oh my God. It does seem appropriate. You gotta be super into it. Lion King, Little Mermaid. Aladdin, I said, I called Aladdin. You said Aladdin? Yeah, I said Aladdin. I think Aladdin. What's a good song from Aladdin? When they are riding on the carpet, like there's some like. Show me the world, right? Isn't that the song? Is that show me the world when he picks her up from the castle? Andrew, don't put the song on, by the way. Yeah, yeah. This'll get too much. I don't buy that. Wow. That one? Yeah. What's your favorite just general Disney movie? Sword and Stone. Oh, that's a good one. I like Robin Hood. Yeah, Sword and Stone was the one that I watched over and over. Do you guys remember? I only watched it a few times, but it was really good. The Fox and the Hound, I think it was called. That was pretty good. That was pretty good. It's not one of those more popular ones. Aristocats? Well, the one, so Sword and the Stone is like one of the oldest. So it's, yeah, yeah. Look at the date on Sword and the Stone, Disney classic, I want to say Merlin. Adam likes it because it says stoned. No, that's not why. Speaking of that, you know, I haven't smoked weed in quite a while. Really? I like what, 24 hours, 40 hours? No, no, no. I'm on like two weeks right now. Really? Yeah. Why? That's why you're all ancient. I wasn't planning on actually talking about this yet, but you just reminded me that and you're calling it out. Switching to heroin? By the way, 1963. 1963? Wow, isn't that crazy? That's pretty old, but Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty are from the 50s, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, they're old. Snow White is the oldest. Isn't Bambi the very first one? No, Snow White. Oh, Snow White's the first one. Yeah. Really? Yeah. The first feature. Bambi was the one that ruined most of kids' childhoods by seeing Frickin. Did you? 1937. It gets Snow White. Wow. 1937. 1937. Think about how brilliant that must have been back in 1937. It's like a feature, animated feature film. You know? That's probably blew people's minds. Well, I just think of how brilliant Walt Disney was, period, just to have the foresight to build an empire like that. Bro, talk about, when was Disneyland built? I want to know that, because imagine the risk at building. Was it in 1955 or 1955? Yeah, you're building a land. Like, you know how big Disneyland is. Like, that's a huge investment that you're giving. For a bunch of kids who don't have money? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Totally bring their kids here to spend lots of money. Yeah, that's how I say it. Think about how crazy that was. It was a massive bet. All right, so I want to hear what you're doing. What's going on with that? Ah, 1956. You're a close dog. You still win. Yeah, that's a long time. I'm quitting for a while. Why? Just because. Oh, OK. Yeah, it's like on Seinfeld, Master Your Domain. You know, remember that episode? Yeah, I kind of do. Yeah, where he doesn't masturbate for a long time. Just to prove that he has control. Right. Yeah, you know. That would be harder than quitting. Yeah, I think so. Well, yeah, yeah, it would be. Well, it depends. Can you have sex? If you can have sex and not masturbate, I don't think it's that hard. But to both, that would be absolutely. Yeah, yeah, I'm not making the 40 days. So one thing I respect about you, Adam, you tend to do that, right? You'll just, I'll do the same thing. I'll just say, hey, I don't want to do caffeine for a while or whatever anymore. But I appreciate that about you. But what made you, it was just out of the blue? Or were you like, hey, I'm using it too much? Well, yeah, no. Actually, I wasn't using it that much lately. In fact, ever since max, I've reduced consumption. But I have consistently been smoking for the longest stretch of my life. Like as far as not taking, like I used to, when I first started to smoke weed, it would be very intermittently, used to be more like a party. In fact, for a long time, I never even bought it. Because. It was just if it was there. Yeah, if it was there. Yeah, I like it, enjoy it. It's a good timer with that. And then actually, because I've talked about when I started the cannabis clubs, I was not smoking it before that. And so then it was like all about like kind of research. Oh, I have this strain come in. So I'd have to, so I do it just to talk about it or whatever. And then because I had a flood of it all time, I never had to purchase it or buy it personally. So I had access to it whenever I felt like it. You know, and then afterwards, and after that was in my past long ago, cause it's now been almost 10 years, I had to start buying again. And then I remember like, I went to this little like, Jesus, I gotta pay for this shit. This sucks. I don't wanna pay for this habit or whatever. So, you know, I would go kind of back and forth on that. Then it became like a consistent thing where I'd buy in bulk and I keep in these big Mason jars so it stays fresh for a long time. And I've caught myself, you know, being very consistent with, you know, not taking like long, so I'm gonna take a long extended break. I don't, I'm not gonna come out here and say, I'm like done smoking. Are you feeling any, cause I've done that and I'll go off for like a month or two months completely. And I'll use it, I'll say a few times a week on average. And after about a week, I wanna say two or three, I definitely noticed withdrawal sometimes. And what it was for me was my sleep. So I'd have these really vivid, crazy dreams. And my sleep wasn't good. I noticed I wasn't sleeping very good. Well, so I'm definitely asleep is, so this is, that's the thing that I'm noticing more in anything is dreaming, right? So if you, and this doesn't happen to everybody, I believe it definitely happens to me. Like you don't dream when you smoke. And since I only really smoke at night, right before bed, I never really dream. If I ever dream, it's because I woke up at like three in the morning to go pee and then I go back to sleep. And then from four to like six, I dream. But now, because I'm all, I'm not smoking it at all. I'm having all kinds of dreams. So I've been having all these crazy vivid dreams. And although I was mentioning before the podcast, I didn't get the greatest of sleep last night. Sleep has been fine. No withdrawal. I mean, that's one of the things that I think is great about cannabis for the most part. I mean, I think anything can become habitual and people become addicted to, even if it doesn't have addictive chemical properties. Totally. So I do think that. I'll tell you what, the physical withdrawals from caffeine are a billion times worse than they are. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Like you go off caffeine and it's just. Well, cause there's a chemical dependency, right? Where cannabis association, when you wake up, it's like part of ritual. So that's tough too. So that's the hardest part that I'm having that is just like part of one of the things I loved and enjoyed about cannabis is that, you know, after I've had a long workday, I've played with my son. I've cleaned the house and like he's in bed. It's 7 30 at night. Like now it's my time. It's my time. Either I'm going to do research for the podcast or I'm going to be reading on real estate stuff or I'm going to watch a good movie. And I like to do that deep in thought. And when I take a couple of hits off the joint, like I go deep. I feel like me and Adam are always on opposite schedules. What do you mean? You're having it ramping it up. I'm like a weekend warrior. I mean, I just do like a, you know, five milligram. You're edible guy. Yeah, you're edible guy. So, but I wait, you know, until it's at night, everybody's asleep, you know, I'm trying to, I'm trying to chill. And yeah, dude, it's, it's just one of those things. I've been trying to actually replace that with, you know, alcohol consumption just to kind of give a break from that. So I guess I've been kind of, you know, taking myself off of that because it hasn't been doing, you know, good things for, for my training. So. There's no comparison in terms of which one makes you feel worse is alcohol. Oh yeah. By far. You know what I have noticed that is actually really cool though is because weed has always been kind of the thing that like chills me out and relaxes me. I've been like messing with all of our supplements that we get all the time, right? And I'm using gold juice again. And so I feel like because I'm not doing anything else like weed is so much stronger, right? And because I'm not doing that, I feel the effects of that better. So that kind of mellows me out more. Well, that's good too, because the gold has lots of anti-inflammatory compounds in it. So one of the things about cannabis is, obviously it's got cannabinoids, right? And they're the systemically anti-inflammatory. And so sometimes when people go off, they notice that they're a little bit more stiff because here's what happens, right? You're flooding your body with phyto cannabinoids. Your cannabinoid receptors do down regulate. This is why you'll need more cannabis to get the same effect. So then when you go off, now you have less of these cannabinoid receptors and they do up regulate again. It just takes a little while. Plus they don't know if this is what happens. I have yet to see a study that shows this, but I would guess that there's a feedback loop when you're taking cannabinoids that your body then stops or produces less of its own. So when you go off, you're producing less cannabinoids, lower cannabinoid receptor density. So you may notice that you're gonna get a little bit more stiff and inflamed. And the gold juice is, I mean, it's full of anti-inflammatory. So what do you, I mean, I'm not, so I used also with the NET. So I took the droppers of the NET and then I did the Organified Gold Juice. Do you do the Gold Juice like froth like with milk? Like that's what happened before. Almond milk, so good. Almond milk, whip it and it's amazing. Whip it good. Heat it up, heat it up too. So I don't know if you guys heat it up. So I heat it up, whip it and then mix it and it almost, I almost feel like I'm having like hot cocoa at night. Yeah, so it's nice, it's relaxing. I make, I do that with the NET, the combination of the two of them together is giving me a similar kind of a chill feel. So I was doing all of it last night because dude, I came home, I wasn't so much pain, dude. And it's all my fault. Like your teeth, right? My teeth, I went to go see my friend, Dr. Rao and he did my fronts and did like the veneers and everything, I just had the bottoms done. But that wasn't the only thing I had done while I was there. So I had been experiencing pain in my tooth that's in the very back while I was on vacation and this was like a month ago. And I was like, ah, like just trying to grin and bear it and figure out, I'm like, I'm eventually gonna see him. So no big deal, right? I get in there and he's like, well, yeah, you broke your tooth in half. And so, are you a grinder? Is that why you grind at night? How do you break your teeth in half? I'm a grinder, dude. He's that guy in the club. No, yeah, I set you up. You got to get close. Yeah, stupid. No, I am, I've done a lot of damage to my teeth because of that. Like I don't know if they manifest at night. You're like, everything's horrible. There's not a damn thing you do slow or easy. And again, like it works for some things, but like there's a lot of things, like I pay the price for it, right? So this is one of those things where I just, I didn't realize, I mean, I did realize there was something massively wrong, but I just was trying to kind of put it off. And he's like, he goes in there and he's like, oh my God. And he finds two abscesses on both, underneath both. So I'm on antibiotics now. And so he's like, dude, we just got to take it out. And so they just ripped it out. And then sutured it. Meanwhile, I still have like, this is major work, just grinding it down to spikes and then having to put the other like temps on. So my mouth is just like, like I was driving home and I was just like this big beach ball face, you know, trying to figure it out. Ready to fight everybody. I was in a really on remood all night. Oh, that sucks. Yeah, dude. So what, so okay, we were interrupting you. It's you, what causes it? Does he tell you or do you know like? Oh, the grinding? Yeah. I still haven't been able to figure that out because my mom, I don't know if this is- And is it when you only, when you sleep or is it all throughout the day? Like what's your- It's only when I sleep. I mean, I guess I could track if I was working out and typically they'll tell you, like if you're lifting heavy weights and stuff and you have this issue, like you're probably also doing it as you're lifting a weight. So you should probably wear a mouthpiece or whatever. But so I'm probably gonna have to just start wearing a mouthpiece again, even though they fixed my bite. You know what else you do that I do too that you may have to watch is, so I went and saw, this was a long, this is before mine pump, this is bad. There was a time when I was drinking like two, three rock stars a day, like every day. Oh yeah. And went and saw my dentist and she said that there's something in those- It erodes the enamel? Yes. And so I was getting holes and it was, and when I quit drinking them completely, cold turkey, it all got better. Do you know you can heal your teeth? Yeah. They actually do. No, I didn't do, I didn't have to do any work. That's what I was trying to do with this. It was not where I was, the damage had been done. It's so weird with that kind of stuff. Well yours is your grinding but when it comes to cavities and stuff, very strange, I've never had a cavity in my entire life. It has to do with the, I guess the microbiome. Some people, they are just super prone, like my sister always had, very, very prone to cavities. You know, this is what, I used to think that dentists were like total scam too because as a kid, I'm serious. You're like anti anything inside. I'm very skeptical. Dentists are full of shit. No, I'm skeptical of it. Well, there's always a reason though. Listen, Linda, listen, it's not that, it's not like I just, oh, I think- Zoologist, whatever. It's not like I just say dentists are all like scam artists. Is that what I have a story for? When I was a kid, okay, my parents took me to the dentist. Like, I can't remember exactly how old I was but I hadn't been in years and I think we finally went, maybe the job that my dad at the time finally had, had some sort of insurance so we could go or something. Actually no, it didn't because we went, I find out I had like nine cavities and we couldn't afford to do nothing about it. So my mom was like, oh, you're fucked, you know? Wow. Stop eating so much candy or whatever. Hey, we're screwed. Hey, go play with the pony that we bought. Go get on the quad, we bought you for your birthday. This is before, no, I didn't get a quad, bro. That's it, get out of here, I did not get one. Oh, my bad. They got shit for themselves, right? So I, you know, years went by, this was all before that actually, years went by, probably at least three, four plus years went by and I went like Buttercup. I'm trying to think of the name of the pony. You know what? I don't think Buttercup. I wonder, I can't even tell you what, he's all mad at Buttercup, throwing the food at him. Fucking, I can't do shit with my cavities. Yeah, I don't remember our horses names. I have to, I'll have to, that's my sister. She'll remember the names of the horses. So anyways, I go back years later. I mean, it had to been over three, I would guess probably five, maybe more years later and went to a dentist and this, great, no cavities. And I'm like, wait a second. That's so weird. I had nine. Yeah, I had nine and nine before and I have none. So, but maybe, so I guess they could heal themselves. They can heal themselves, however. So I used to train a dental. Depends how deep it goes. I used to train a dental surgeon and he used to tell me, oh yeah, there are a lot of bullshitters out there. They'll tell you, you need all these different procedures that you don't. So to date now, if there's anything ever that we need done, I always run it by him and he'll tell me. Okay, see, so there are some, there is some validity to my- Oh yeah, bro, there's scam artists in every field, totally, especially ones that you don't, you can't check. Like if a dentist tells you that's, you know, you need some shit done, like, most people aren't gonna go to another dentist. I'm gonna get a second opinion. Yeah, you just don't do that. Isn't the wisdom teeth is another common one, right? So a lot of people pull them out, don't even need them for them. I never pull my wisdom teeth. Neither did I. Yeah, I did. You did. I can just take a mouth. And now look at all this- I don't have any room. And look at all the shit you deal with now, too. I think Justin just needs a good cry, that's what I think. I think he just, he doesn't let it out. So just- Fuckin' dude. At night, the tears wanna come out and he fights it. To be some truth there. Do you wear a mouth guard at night? I used to. Yeah, I used to. Long time ago. Well, cause this was the whole thing of why I wanted to kind of redo, like my whole situation was we could like reconfigure it so I had a better bite, which my bite wasn't aligning properly. And so I was getting, you know, when I would grind it would do like a lot more damage. Yeah. And so I was having no problem with that, but I guess I had been ramping it up again. So now when you have veneers, does it protect from that happening? Or do you have to actually take care of them a certain way? Cause I mean, they're very- I don't think you have to take care of them. I don't think you get cavities in here. Dude, they're way more- Well, not cavities, but can you still grind them down and stuff? Oh yeah. That's the same. I mean, you could, but like, yeah. You probably fuck up your gums. They're way stronger. Oh, really? Yeah, than your real teeth. Yeah, so he's got like that. Do you guys know that villain from James Bond? You know what I'm talking about? That's called Joss. Joss? Yeah. That's Justin now. Just kill people with that. I fucking bite you. Dude, I did the once chip my front tooth because I have this habit of when I like play with babies or anything that's cute. Like, I do that. Didn't you say there was an evolutionary theory behind that? Yeah, the theory is that because- You chew their food up for them. Yeah, when we would feed our babies, you know, thousands of years ago, we would chew the food because they wouldn't have food processors. So we chew their meat and then we'd spit it- I do it with puppies and babies. Just to squeeze your jaw. Yeah. I'm playing with marks. Yeah. I lock my jaw like that all the time. So cute. It's so hard not to do either. Yeah, do you do it? Do you ever notice? I don't know. I don't know if I do that. Yeah. I think you brought it up on a show a long time ago. And I just thought that was something weird that I always- Because it is weird. I mean, remember, it's a theory, right? That's the theory. But because it is strange. Why that? First off, why do we say things like, I want to bite this baby's hand off or I want to squeeze him so hard that whatever? Like, that's like, why would you want to do that to a baby? You're too cute, man. Must kill you. It's so weird, right? Yeah. And when I bite my teeth- Well, I know, I always thought that. I just assumed that it was just something I did, very corky habit. Super common. Yeah, but the fact that you brought that up and said you'd do the same thing. And I only notice it with puppies and babies. If I'm playing with a puppy, you'd do the same thing too. I grew up in Jerusalem. I'm doing something the same thing when I'm playing with Max. But it's so interesting. Speaking of which, so we've been feeding my son now like some solids, right? So we've been giving him like, Serenity Kids has that beef, sweet potato mix or whatever. And this kid is- Do you try it first? Have you tried his food? No, I haven't tried his food. Yeah, I'm just curious. Not at all. You seem like the guy at Wood. I don't know. He does seem like the guy. Amino acids are already digested. Somebody got all butthurt because I made the comment about Gerber foods and sugar in their food. You know that? Why would they get butthurt? They work at Gerber? Maybe. Who knows? I got a DM. They like Gerber? No, they just said we were, you know, I forgot what they said. People always call it some name or some sugar. You said harsh on them. Well, yeah, that we were demonizing your baby food or whatever it was. Easy guy. No, some food's healthier than others. That's all. I was thinking the case was the sugar, right? You know, babies naturally, at a certain, when they're really young, they create enzymes to break down proteins and fats. But the enzymes to break down carbohydrates, they don't produce until later. So it's there. There you go. And if you notice, like, if you're a parent that has the opportunity to grind your vegetables and fruit and stuff like that up for your baby, like, you will not need to add any sugar to it. No. They will eat it just fine. And they learn, right? So first off, thank God. I don't know, there's this saying in Sicilian that your kid's either going to be a bad sleeper or a bad eater. Like, you're not going to get both. And this seems to be true with my son, right? He doesn't sleep well, but he eats. Thank God. So when we feed him, the kid is like, in fact, he's a machine. You have to pause. And you have to, like, gauge how much you're giving him. Because he'll just keep going until he can't breathe anymore. Oh, really? And he gets real frustrated. We'll be like, all right, you're done. Your grandma's going to love him. Oh, no, no, no. She's going to be following around. Well, we are not letting grandma feed him. Because she'll just go apeshit with him and turn him into an obesity statistic. Are you, now that you're now feeding solid foods and stuff, do you guys have a set schedule of the feeding time? Yeah, Jessica does. OK, so I know there's different, like, different trends. Some parents are like, the kid will tell you when they're hungry. No, she breast feeds him first. And then, and you're right. We have to do a schedule because, like I said, he'll just keep eating, especially if it's that beef, sweet potato mix. Or you know what she did yesterday, she cooked liver. So real liver, cooked it, smashed it up, and then, you know, kind of, you know, so that he could eat it and then put breast milk in it to make it a little softer. Liver, nothing, no seasoning, nothing. The kid loved it. Then she did fish roe, salmon eggs. You ever eat salmon eggs? That's fishy as hell. And she's giving it to him and he's making this face. But then he's like, I want more. So anyway, now I'm- That's fishing bait. Yeah, now I notice he's getting, like, a little, like, huskier, you know? So he's, like, sitting down and like, oh, yeah. He's got a little, a little tiny baby into it. A little tank. I love it. That was one of those areas that I was wrong, right? So, honey, you'll appreciate this. I was wrong. She was right. Like, I was like, because she was, she's very like, this is what time we feed, you know, on the schedule. And you're like, no, he'll tell us when he's done. Yeah, so I was more like, don't worry. He's fine. He's fine. We're playing. We're doing this stuff like that. Like, I'll get around to feeding him. And you're behind the eight ball. Well, and so that was, she was trying to make that case all the time. She goes, you know, trust me. She goes, I've already done this. You think it's going to be okay. But then watch how crabby and irritable he gets later. He doesn't know he's hungry, but he is hungry. And so he'll get distracted playing all this time with you. And then two hours, three hours go by. And then he's pissed. Then he's pissed and he's angry. Or you feed him dinner and he eats enough then, but he's still hungry because he didn't get enough calories. So he wakes up at two o'clock in the morning. So she's like, you can go get him at two o'clock. Okay, you win. You're like, cause effect. Hey, don't, okay, you win. I learned that lesson. Don't argue with mom with the stuff that she's only having. Because I learned the lesson with sleep. Cause I'm like, you know, maybe he's just not trying, you know, cause he's having trouble napping. Like maybe he's just not tired. Maybe we should just wait or whatever. She's like, okay, you could try that. Then you're gonna have to deal with him. I said the same thing for the same. And sure enough, he just gets over tired. And then he's like, yeah. So last night, you know, the same thing. We put him down and you know, she goes, and she spends like, she was like up there for 45 minutes trying to put him down. Finally she comes down. She's like, I gotta like take a break. And he's up there crying, whatever. So I'm like, let me try. And I don't, I'm 90% of the time it's her. Or more, 95% of the time. So I went up there, he's not used to, and it's hilarious. I go up there, I put my hand on his back, kind of rub him, he starts looking around. And I know he's trying to see if it's Jessica or if it's B, right? As soon as he realizes it's me. So then I pick him up and I'm holding him. He's looking for her. And I'm like, oh, this is this little shit, man. He wants mom so bad. You know, 30 minutes later, she comes up and he's so happy to see her. He just goes right to sleep. So I'm like, honey, here's the strategy. I go up, disappoint him. You come in and you save him and then he goes to sleep. Now I'm lucky, we actually, so when we early on, I actually did a lot of the putting him down. Although that's transitioned now. So now she does this a lot, because we have our little. Now who wakes up in the night if he needs to go back? Well, he never does, but when he did, back when he did, Katrina's handled that always. Like I've never, in fact, I think I can count on one hand how many times. And this is not me, I'm sure a bunch of people are gonna shame me for this, but they're terrible fathers. No, my fucking wife is amazing, that's all. She just respects that I've got long days, I do a lot of other stuff and so she handles the nights. So once he goes down, if he does get up, she would get him, but he sleeps through the night every single night. The only difference is if he gets up at five a.m. or six and I told you guys about what happens if he'll come in the bed then. But early on, I used to do, I did a lot of putting him down early. I wanted to, I really liked it. Like he's past the age now, like you can't rock him anymore, he's too big. Dude, your kid's huge, dude. Yeah, he's too big for that now. He's tall. And that just, that transition. That picture you posted, I couldn't believe it. Yeah, that transition just happened, like maybe two months ago. He's gotta be over the 90th percentile for his age. Yeah, yeah, for his height and stuff he is now. He used to be under, right, because he was a preemie. So he was under for a long time and then he sprouted up and he's now passed everything. So yeah, he's now, so it was like, I wanna say like a month or so ago, we were in this transition of Katrina starting to almost always put him down, but then every once in a while she was like, hey, do you wanna put him down? I'm like, yeah, I wanna put him down, put him down in a while. And I loved to rock him. Like I love to sit in the rocking chair. That was my jam. Yeah, it's one of my favorite things to do. And just recently he was in that phase where he just kinda, he rolls around and finally gets comfortable. He passes out on me and then I put him in his bed. He's just, he's too big now. He can't get comfortable on me. And so I was trying to rock him and you could tell he's getting frustrated. And I put him in bed and he went right to sleep. He was more comfortable in his bed. I'm like, oh, that phase is over. Did you guys ever read that book? It'll make you cry if you did. Where, huh? You're talking about the giving tree? No, that one too. That one's terrible. Stop. No, there's the one where it's like a boy, his mom is taking care of him. I think it's called I Love You Forever or something like that. And it shows that mom rocking him, taking care of him. Oh, and then she gets older. And then you take care of her when she's old. At the very end she's like old and dying. He's rocking her, putting her down and I'm like, wow. Yeah, I did see that, yeah. That one got me too. Bro, get into the chills. I read that book. I'm like, this destroyed me. Why would you even make this book? Yeah, I don't think I read that one. Just to make you break down. Yeah, oh man. Anyway, I wanna talk about working out here for a second because first of all, how's you guys' training going? It's pretty good. You know, mine's been going really well. I mean, as of today, I'm like trying to keep it easy so I don't like tear anything else in my face. But you know, it was actually, I was really starting to dial it in and get the nutrition going with it as well and add just a smidgeon of cardio. What are you doing for cardio? Just my salt bike, I'll do it for 10 minutes. Get that stamina. So it's a little bit of, you know, some intermittent sprints. So you're doing weights with cardio. Resistance training with cardio. Yeah, exactly. That's the way to do it, dude. That's my jam. I did, every time I do this, it blows me away. My body just responds better to frequency than anything else. Anything else, volume, intensity, great. But if I train my each body part frequently and I split up the volume, it doesn't matter. If I train my body three or four times a week, even if the volume is the same, my body just responds way better that way. And I did, I switched to a higher volume, less frequency routine for a while, went back to the more frequency. Boom, just better results every single time. It's wild. I think we're a little different there. I mean, not that I definitely think that frequency was like one of the biggest like game changers to abuse that word we always use. For me, droppers. I know, right. So it was something I wasn't doing before, making sure I trained two or three times. But to me, there's a sweet spot. It's two times a week a muscle group. When I hit three, I tend to overreach. Really? Yeah, I tend to get joint issues. Isn't that interesting? You have to like, there's a total variance. Yeah, no, there definitely is, you know? And I can still get away with, sometimes I do the just high, like high intensity one day on a muscle group. And that actually maintains me well. So if I'm like not training a lot and maybe I'm only getting three days in the gym and I run some sort of an upper lower split, but I train intensely, that will, that'll maintain my physique. Like so whatever foundation I have or built recently, it maintains well. Progressing though, I have to scale volume. I've got to build, I've got to over time, progressively overload and add volume to the routine and intensity. Yeah, cause I did two times a week for a little while and it was okay. I was doing more volume. You guys would see how long my workouts worked. I was trying to, you know, whatever. But I scaled the volume down per workout. So total volume is the same. Now I'm doing the whole body three times a week, way better, every single time. This is such a good conversation though for our audience because this is the stuff that bothers me when we, when, you know, you get the academics in the space that want to debate over, you know, a recent study that supported, you know, their case. This is the best way for this is it's like, you know, there's such an individual variance. And we all, obviously what you're gonna be most consistent with is the most important, right? So whatever, whatever it works, works for your time, whatever you like to do, whatever you're gonna do more consistently is going to be better than anything. So if you hate training full body workouts, even if I could tell you that they're probably superior for you, it doesn't matter if you, you know, you don't enjoy doing them. So that's first and foremost. And then there's such a variance between, you know, three times maybe like the perfect dose for you, but maybe two times is me. Yeah, so what I did was instead of doing three full body workouts is I go upper, lower, upper, lower, upper, lower. So six days a week I'm working out, but I'm alternating upper, lower and everything's getting hit three times in the week. And it seemed, and it's the frequency is three times a week. And again, it's just, I respond incredible. I've had to like my, you know, I showed, showed my abs on the story the other day. First time in a long time that I've done a. Oh yeah. We saved that. Don't lie, Justin. I missed it. I missed it. I did. It's okay, I saved it for you. All right. Yeah, yeah. Actually, I think I slid in your DM. So it should be, that's exciting. Hey, just a picture of you and your abs, just to Justin. I got to look at this book cover the whole time. I'm going to change this. No way, dude. You should send it to Justin, but put Courtney in the group chat. Just put a face on your abs. Ew. Don't be horrible. Hey guys, how you guys think I look right now? No, I didn't. I did in the story and said, they know now. They know now. Everybody's aware. Yeah, they know now. Yeah, no, I'm actually, I'm pretty dialed in right now. I feel, yeah, yeah, I'm feeling good. So I have again, so you made me bring up the marijuana thing since we're here now to bring this up a little bit. Since it does, when I say it on the podcast, I always commit better, right? You know, I plan to bring my A game for 40. So this is my big 40th birthday. Hell yeah. Now, do you have a percentage you want to get to? I want to be for sure single digits, but it's more a look and feel, right? And I'm not far from that, right? I really feel like I'm about a month of some really good month. So you're what, 2%, probably 3% away from where you want to be? Yeah, that's a good, that's a good, I would say that right around, I'd say I'm sitting right around 10% right now if I had to guess my room. I would say so, based off of that picture. Yeah, if I had to guess my percentage, I'd say about 10% and I'd like to be about eight. I think 8% would be eight, 7%. We need to get tested. Because I already, oh, so I've already, I reached out to them, we're gonna do something. Okay, good. Yeah, so I reached out. I'd get down to five or six just for fun. I don't know what I'm at now. I would guess I'm in the singles. I have no idea. It's hard for me to guess, but I think I'm probably around eight or nine. So if you go that long ways ago, if you go that crazy, and my goal is to kind of get there sooner than later because what I might do is for my 40th, it would be cool to do like a photo shoot with my son. So being 40 years old, having a kid and then being all fit and shredded, like it's just, I don't know, it's a stupid goal. Maybe we could all do a calendar, huh? Stupid. I think Justin. No way will I do a calendar with Justin. He'll overshadow everybody. But you know, talking about this, the reason why, the real reason why I was going here, it was not to talk about my abs, but was to actually share, and again, always trying to share this stuff for the audience that, you know, it's so important that you are constantly, and this is why I like tools. I know we have a split audience that like leans towards the sal strategy of doing things all the time, right? Like of, you know, intuitive everything. Are you gonna make fun of my people? Intuitively. Yeah, because you're not an app guy, you don't use the Fat Secret app, you don't use Fitbit tools, but I love these things, and I love these things for this reason. Like, I don't know if you guys notice, maybe if you look back to a couple of videos, you'll notice that I had my Fitbit on last week. And I just do it now, I just do it like that, just for, I just need to kind of see. And it's just a calibrate. Where am I at? Because what I was noticing, you know, a month or so ago when I was pretty dialed in, oh my God, I'm eating well, I'm training good, I'm not moving like I should. I know my body well enough that I know how quick a change I can make when I'm really dialed in, and I just wasn't progressing. And so I wore the Fitbit. I was like, you know what, I must be, I knew I was not moving a lot, but I must be really, really sedentary right now. And I am. I mean, I had some days were 3,000 steps. Oh, geez. I mean, that's- Well, I know it's the same thing and that's why I started to kind of incorporate a little bit of bike just because it's like, I just don't even walk like as much as I used to. And that's something I've been addressing even just getting home and grabbing the dogs and going with Courtney on like a couple mile walk. Yeah. And Katrina and I are doing the same thing, right? So, and it's been like an hour walk and even that is only getting me to like 7,000 steps. I know. It's pathetic. I mean, we don't want, look at what we're doing. I know. It's going all good. I get up, I sit in a car, I drive, I come here, I sit and then I go home and I sit and drive and more so now because I have a longer drive and you know, I'm not, I don't go home and get, I mean, I'm playing with Max a little bit, but I mean, he's little. It's not like I'm playing like really physical or going very far. So I really had to adjust my calories. I mean, I was just way overeating and eating good, but I was not, I was not like, or like Justin said, increase my activity. So I haven't done anything like a salt bike wise, but I'm really making an effort to get out on the longer walks. I already walked the dog at least once or twice a day plus Katrina and I were taking a walk, but now I'm extending that walk for like an hour. It used to be kind of like that 20, 30 minute thing where her and I connect every night after dinner. I've been doing that forever. Well, yeah, another part to that too is like, so we have the kids, we're starting to try our best to give them a little bit more independence and they're at an age now where they can stay home by themselves, but we've still been really nervous about stuff like that and like, they have, you know, they have their iPads or they have like another phone that we leave there. So if anything happens, they can call or whatever, but so we've been kind of stretching our walks a little bit each time. And, you know, that's just one of these things. I'm just like, okay, this is how I'm gonna start, you know, pushing myself to, you know, get more comfortable with them to have a little bit more independence and then they can walk and do their thing and then come back to the house. And so I'm just like training myself in that regard. Do you find, I mean, I find this being one of the best and it's funny, we're talking about this for fitness and being in shape, but the walk with the wife thing has been one of the best hacks for our relationship. It's perfect for that. It's so, you know, and it seems so stupid and little, but, Encourage this conversation, time together. And we also, like no phones, like that's like our rule, right? It's like, you can't have your phone on you, like it's just we, it's just our time to, and sometimes we're quite quiet too, which is okay. Like sometimes it's like a 10 of the minutes, it's just silent and we're looking around and looking at the sun falling or something like that, whatever. And then other times it's, we're in deep conversation, lots of stuff to talk about or talking about Max. It's just, it really, it really allows us that space and that time to connect. And I know I sound like an old man talking about this because it's not something that I would probably talk about. It's wisdom though, it's old man wisdom. Well, it really, it really, it does feel like that, right? It does feel like I've hacked into something that has really fed into the strength of our relationship because we've made priority to this. I think the key is to create the space, that's all. So it's not like you have to sit there and have crazy conversations, but you have the space and it's a regular thing. Otherwise, especially when you have kids, you'll find that you just don't have... Yeah, you just slowly drift away. Yeah. You know, and it's, you gotta make sure that you're intentional about like creating those spaces and opportunities for it to come up. Cause it is, we just always get in our rhythms in our own worlds and I'm trying to take care of this and always be ahead so I don't get behind, you know, with what the kids need or what, you know, my partner needs and I feel like I'm doing great. But then again, I'm not talking to her along the way. No, it's true. I mean, and a partnership very much so is that, right? There's many times where, you know, she handles that, I handle this like so, and that can be a good, healthy partnership. There's nothing wrong with you both kind of dividing and conquering. I think a good relationship has the ability to do this, but it's also important that you come back and you meet. And I just love that it's something that we're doing for our health too, right? So it's like we're, it's, it's, you know, two-sided here, right? So not only are we doing it. Two birds, one scone. Yeah, that's right. So we get to... That's the PETA way of saying it. We walk and we get our movement and we're steps in and our activity, right? And helps our digestion after dinner, but then in even more importantly. Two girls, one cup. Yeah, that's true. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. Never had any use as an indulgent. Type that in. Look up blue waffle with another one. Speaking of wives, have your guys' wives been using the face serum? The, the caldera? No, I actually, I haven't caught on yet. No, no, I haven't, I haven't asked Katrina if she wants, she has her own little routine. I haven't... Courtney asked why they didn't have one for, she was really like almost jealous. Well, no, women can use it. Of course, yeah. Well, I actually saw an ad they did recently and it was a woman doing the ad. Cause it doesn't have a masculine smell to it. It has a very neutral smell. Doug brought that up the last time we had the caldera commercial. It smells great. Yeah. That is one of the things, I agree with him, that's one of the things that I really like about it. Although Katrina really likes the smell of the moisturizer more than she likes the oil. So the oil, she says, smells a little like earthy hippie to her. And so when I put that on my face, she likes the... That's a little bit of that. The moisturizer. So I do hear... That's all natural stuff. When I'm here with you guys before the show, I use the oil because I like the oil. But then when I go home and I shower and stuff like that, that's I use the oil. I really like it on my beard. I don't know. It makes it feel like soft. It makes it shinier and it shapes it. So, no, I'm digging the product. I'm digging them a lot, dude. I like it. I would have never thought... I know when we first started working with them, I'm like, really? Yeah. Well, you guys really resisted it. I liked it. Well, yeah, I was like, what's the next step? Makeup? You know, what are we doing here? Check you guys. And then all of a sudden, Adam started looking all amazing. We're like, damn. Yeah. Well, you know, you remember originally what really sold me was I started using it on my psoriasis. Yes. So like the kicker was they came after us. They sent us a bunch of free stuff like a lot of people do. None of you guys even gave two shits about it. I started using it and I was like, oh wow, this like is really, it works really well on my psoriasis. Keeps it, not only does it help the dry skin there, but then it also keeps me from itching it, which is always a problem. Reduce the inflammation. Yeah. So that's what really originally sold it to me and then I got better and more consistent with all my face and then of course I get compliments. Hey, I got some movie trivia for you, Justin. Yeah, brilliant. You know the movie Gremlins? Great classic. By the way, scarier than I remember. If you ever show a little kid. It's scarier than you remember? No, it's scarier me as a kid. Bro, no way. Yeah, it's scarier me as a kid. Oh yeah, I remember I tried to show my kids years ago and I was like, this is way too hard. There's a part where the guy comes out that one of the Gremlins gets like all like evil. Yeah, or they microwave the Gremlins, explode in the microwave. And then they come through like the toilet. Oh dude, it's crazy. Anyway, here's something interesting. They initially were gonna use monkeys to be the Gremlins. But on the first day of shooting, the monkeys went crazy and were tearing shit apart and shitting everywhere. So they went with the puppets or whatever for Gremlins. You guys know that? I didn't know that. They were initially gonna use monkeys for that. Like real monkeys. Real monkeys. And then what a pivot that is. Like going from like real live monkeys and also we're gonna create this creature. What were they gonna call it? Yeah, so it was just like bad behaving monkeys. No, no, no. I think they were probably gonna put stuff on the monkeys. Oh, like costumes on the monkeys? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a terrible idea. Yeah, I mean. Come on. Like me. Yeah, get monkeys to do what you want them to do. Yeah, this is never gonna happen. Yeah. Do you guys remember that story years ago about that woman who had a pet chimpanzee? Oh, that made her face off? She fed the chimp like wine and Xanax or something like that. And then it lost its mind. She'd like sleep with it too. Like right next to her. Yeah, it was like her friend, right? And it literally ripped her face off. It literally grabbed her face and ripped her. And tore it off her skull. What? They're vicious. And they're strong, bro. Like they're so pure muscle. She was giving her monkey Xanax. She gave the monkey some wine and some Xanax. She said it was stressed out or something. And it lost its mind and fucked her up. I wonder why. And it tore off her face. How dumb do you have to be to give a monkey a pharmaceutical like Xanax? I mean, if you've ever had a Xanax, it's not like it's like a. Well, I mean, to her defense though, the last thing I would predict, you know, it'd be crazy because you took a downer. Yeah, you'd think you'd be like passed out. Yeah, always gonna be super chill, you know. No, it ripped her face off. Also, they are strong. It probably got scared though. I've seen this from animals. When you get a sedative, some animals like freak out because something's happened to them. And they, yes. So that's why you're dumb still in my opinion because you know that there's a lot of people that use drugs like that as like an upper because you trying to fight it, right? So it trying to keep you down, you fighting it has the reverse effect on people. Actually on some people there is that effect where they'll actually get worse from taking it. Yeah, so that, I mean. But apparently it tore her face off. And if you take the shit, you should know that. And I think someone tried to help her and it ripped that person's arm off. Like just pick it up. What the hell? You know how strong you have to be to rip an arm off. When was this? This was like 10 years ago, 15 years ago. Chimp strength, man. Bro, it was like a 100 pound champ. It's unreal. Can you have, can you actually have a champ and see as a pet? Apparently. Well, yeah, I wonder what the regulations are now. Because you know there's like, I know like certain states, only certain states here in the U.S. You can have like certain wild animals. Yeah, like little Jackson had like Bobo or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know, Doug, do you know this? I feel like you would know this about monkeys. I didn't hear the question. I'm looking for the champ stuff. We just call him the champ. Can you own a monkey? He's asking. Oh, I think you can in some places. Well, that's what I mean. Yeah. There's like in California. Well, I mean if you can own tigers. Yeah, but I feel like if you can own ferrets in California or something like that. Really? Yes, yeah. I bet if you could have one in Cal, Isn't that because of Richard here? There's a bunch of rich people. Don't you think there would be monkeys, people hanging around with monkeys if we could do it? It's Hollywood in general. I don't know, but all I know is that you can have. They misuse these poor little pictures. Oh, thanks, Doug. That's her? Thanks, Doug, for showing us that. Oh, no, I did not need to say that. Why would you even show us that? Bro, that is not a little chimp. That is a fucking gorilla. No, that's a chimp. It's a chimp. How much does a chimp weigh? 200 pounds. Oh, so it's a 200 pound chimp. Never mind. But this is like in 2009. Yeah, when you said the story, I was picturing like a little tiny little like a spider monkey. Yes, it's not okay. Bro, thanks, Doug. Hey, you're welcome. What are you talking about? This is what you guys are talking about. What are you doing sleeping with a thing like that? I don't know. Somebody's got little issues. Yeah, dude. Yeah, a little. I think there's more to the story. Animal love. Dude, you know how strong you have to be to rip someone's face up? I think she was trying to get him fucked up because she's trying to take advantage of him. Because he's just trying to bang the monkey. Yeah, that's what I think. Think about that for a second. Okay, now that sounds like a more plausible story. Let me see. She's feeling a little frisky. She had a whole bottle of wine. She starts pouring him some wine. She plays some music. Gives him a set. Xanax. You got a little Yanni. They're sharing a banana. Yeah. Xanax trying to relax him a little bit. And then he said, no way. Uh-uh, I'm not having this shit. Ah! I ain't having this shit. Come here, little monkey. Come here, little monkey. I'm into chimps. On your question about monkeys in California, monkeys and other primates can only be possessed by qualified people issued to permit for a specific legal purpose. Knew it. Just for movies and things like that. Come here, little monkey. Let me, let me, let me. I have a little bit of an update to what we talked about last time about Amazon and their acquisition of MGM. Yeah. It wasn't like, I didn't find anything else about like the casino or anything, but I know they're like directly targeting the 007 franchise. So that was part of them getting, you know, that was part of it. Like Survivor was another one in Shark Tank and some other TV show, but like that was all because that's such a staple franchise. Like the 007 franchise can go on into infinity. Okay, so what do you guys think about this strategy? It's a very popular strategy right now. Marvel, the Star Wars, I feel like it's a cheap hack. Yeah, of course, it's guaranteed. I mean, it's already been established in the fabric of, you know, society. Like everybody knows those franchises. And so it's like, that's always going to be a hit, you know, as long as you do it right. Who's your favorite 007? Sean Connery. By far. Yeah, he's the best by far. Yeah, but he's the original though, right? No. Oh, he's not the original. No, no, the first is the best. The first. I don't know who the first. George Lazenby, maybe? Was it really? I don't even know who that guy's name was. I like the newer guy though. I'm not like, I'm not like him too. I'm not like a big like bond person, but I like the new guy. I like the old bond. So it was even with Pierce Branson or whatever. Oh, Pierce Branson. He was okay. He was okay. He's handsome, but I didn't believe he could be anybody else. Exactly. Sean Connery looks like, Sean Connery looked like he kicked someone's ass. What'd you say, Doug? Yeah, Barry Nelson. There was, I have no idea who he is. He's the original? Actually played eight years before Sean Connery. Hmm. Yeah, I like the old Sean Connery 007s. Those were the best. Weird characters that would fight him. Did you throw this hat that cuts it in half and dude with the metal teeth? Did you both get into the series like big time? Only the old ones when I was a kid. I watched all of them. Yeah, I was like, I think it's cause my dad loved it too. So I would like, that was something we'd watch together all the time. He was really into like a lot of Tom Clancy novels and things that were all about like Patriot games and you know, all these, these sort of like spy type of, you know, stories. I like the tech from the old ones cause it's stuff that we have now. You know what I mean? It's like talking to your watch. Oh my God. Oh, it's so cheesy. Now we have that now. Yeah, there's submarines and yeah. I like it. I think it's, but I also think this is kind of a weak ass, cheap hack that all these, you know, production companies use that. It's just, cause then it's just overplayed. It just gets overplayed to me doing the same. It costs so much money to come up with something completely original. And it's risky. It's very risky. Yeah, you're gonna spend a hundred million dollars and you don't know. I mean, I guess, okay, so I can get down with that as like a smart strategy. It's like, you do that as like your bank role or your foundation. Like that sort of, your bone structure. So that, okay, I can get behind that. That's a cool strategy. Okay. Amazon goes, hey, listen, if we buy MGM, we get the James Bond, you know, rights to James Bond. We know we can make 50 of those. That'll produce X amount of dollars. This now gives us this money to go play and try and get better at all this other stuff. Well, they just spent like 425 million on their Lord of the Rings series, which they're gonna launch, which I'm really excited about that. So we'll see what that does for them. But I really think they're gonna jump, you know, once all this stuff kind of rolls out. Yeah, before we get done here, before the questions, a shout out to the active duty naval corpsman who work in the labor and delivery ward at Naval Hospital Okinawa, Japan. Oh, thank you very much. Doug, you been there? Boom. Never. No, not that part. Hey, real quick, before we get to the questions, the second part of this episode is brought to you by our sponsor, Ned. Now they have a product called Mellow, very, very effective product. It helps you supercharge your mind, body, and mood with their magnesium super blend. By the way, they have a form of magnesium in Mellow that crosses the blood-brain barrier. So those other magnesium supplements that you take probably don't do this, but this one does. When I take it, I actually feel my body relax and chill out. This is very good for people under a lot of stress. Also contains GABA, which also contributes to that relaxed feeling. Go check them out. Go to helloned.com. That's H-E-L-L-O-N-E-D.com forward slash mind pump. Enter the code MINDPUMP for 15% off your first order. All right, enjoy the rest of the podcast. First question is fit with weight's mama. How long does it take for a metabolism to recover? After years of a 1,200 calorie diet, I reverse dieted and am now at 2,100 calories and have been lifting for five months. I am seeing great strength progress, but I am wondering when it's okay to start cutting calories for a more aesthetic look and how do I know my metabolism won't get jacked up again? All right, so when someone says metabolism recover, we gotta be very clear. What they mean is faster, right? I get a faster metabolism because the truth is the metabolism's doing what it's supposed to do. Yeah, it was never broken. Yeah, it wasn't broken. You were just eating a low calorie and you were probably exercising wrong. Programming it wrong. And so it just slowed down. So the question is, okay, how long does it take before my metabolism's really fast? Well, so far you've done a pretty damn good job. You've got almost up 1,000 calories. You're at 2,100 calories. What I don't know is did your body fat go up within that period of time? Were you able to maintain your body fat percentage, increase your calories and just get stronger? In which case I'd say you're doing pretty darn good. If you've been able to, I mean, even if you put on some body fat, if you were to put on mostly muscle, you're doing phenomenal. Cause you're not just adding a thought, you're damn near doubling. So the increase is almost, I mean, that's huge. So yeah, yeah, that's a great place to be. Yeah, the place to cut is when you're at a place where you feel comfortable cutting and maintaining. In other words, let's say you're at 2,100 calories and you bring it down to 1,600 calories and that gets you lean. Are you now comfortable staying around 1,600 calories? Now that doesn't mean you have to stay at 1,600. You could always reverse diet from there. But that's the idea, right? The idea is, do I have room to go down in order to get leaner? For most women, I would say, I like to keep them around. I like to get them to around the low 2,000s, at least 22, 2,300, 2,400. It'd be real nice to get it up to 2,500 before starting to cut. Five months is pretty good. That's a pretty fast progression. I've worked with, I mean, I had some female clients that it took us a year to get to the point. Yeah, to get to the point where things sped up a little bit because the body is just, obviously you were stressing it so much before. It adapted in a particular way and a five month reversal of that is not bad at all. It's actually pretty damn good. There are some numbers that we're missing here too, though, like we don't know her size, right? So, I mean, if she, 2,100 is pretty good for the average female. Actually like 130 pounds. Yeah, right. But if she's 280 pounds, you're still really low. So it really does depend on kind of where you're at. But if you're average size, I think that's a pretty good place. Now, here's the thing too. This was my client and she was coming to me and telling me that, hey, I'm looking to, I want to lean out at him. We've been doing this, you know, calorie increase for the last five months and I feel good. I'm getting stronger. I'm eating more. I'm not putting on a bunch of body fat, but I would like to summers around the corner. Let's lean down a little bit. I would do like a three on one off type of like three weeks of cut, one week of bolt to maintenance, and that's what we would start to do for a while. And doing that is going to keep you in a really good place, right? You're not going to be in this 1200 calorie deficit for an extended period of time. If you're having a nice calorie surplus every third week, you should be in a pretty good place. And I'm also would not allow you to go down to 1200 calories. It probably runs something around 1500, 1600 calories for those three weeks. And then I would run like a, you know, 2100 calorie a week in a surplus or maintenance, right? And be going back and forth with that. I think with doing that, you should see yourself lean out pretty nice. I agree. I think the trouble happens from being consistently trying to hit a deficit. Just always, always, always hitting a deficit. Chronically. And then combining that with a lot of, you know, manual calorie burning, lots and lots of cardio. That tends to be the issue, but strength training with the reverse diet and then strength training with the cut and the cut being interrupted with, like Adam said, you know, a week or four days where you're at maintenance or higher, probably a good strategy to get yourself lean without getting too much of that slow down in the metabolism. Next question is from Catherine Health Journey. I took three years off after dieting on low calories for years to reverse and get my calories up to a better level. Now I'm trying to cut a bit and my weight is not budging. What do you suggest? Well, if it's not budging, first of all, are we talking about weight on the scale or body fat percentage? Because oftentimes the weight on the scale isn't moving, but you're getting this nice body composition change. And I would see this with clients often where, like, oh my gosh, the scale hasn't moved or it's only moved a little bit. Then I would test their body fat and be like, whoa, you actually gained a couple pounds of muscle and lost a couple pounds of body fat. So this is a good position to be in. So that's number one. Number two, if it is body fat percentage that's not going down, then you're not actually at a cut. You're still eating too many calories. You have to reduce your calories even more. You know, it's interesting. There's this like play, there's like this buffer zone with your metabolism where so much lean body mass burns so many calories, but there's like it could burn this low calories or this high calories depending on whether or not the body wants to become more or less efficient. Just cutting calories tends to make your metabolism want to become more efficient. Just bumping calories tends to make your calories want to be less efficient. So you actually burn more calories. So that's something to consider too. Sometimes you think you're cutting, your metabolism adapts immediately and the reality is you just need to drop down a little bit more. Yeah, and are you reading this as three years of just dieting or did three years off of everything? It says off after dieting. I'm wondering if that means like no exercise too. That's true, that's your point. So if you have just, if you stopped eating low cal and exercising and dieting, and then you took three years off completely of everything, does that mean that you took three years off of dieting and you took three years also off of exercise? Because if that's the case, the main thing that I would do with you, we talked about this in a recent, I think Qua, where I talked about just my goal for you is to not gain or lose. It would be to kind of maintain your weight but introduce strength training and slowly increase calories. Like that is a huge one. If we can get 30, 60 days down the road and you've been consistently strength training following like a MAPS anabolic type of a protocol, following that routine, being consistent, making good food choices, balanced macros and in a surplus and your weight not go up or down, that's a beautiful place to go. I mean, that's a vital component to the whole processes to be able to train your way through that. So not, yeah, I would assume that they were probably doing that, but if that's not part of the formula, you're gonna have a hard time. To recomp your body with lean muscle mass. So that's all part of like building up your metabolism again to then start kind of shedding that down. I also would look into activity level. The guys and I were just talking off air about this. I was sharing with them. I had a similar like this conversation with myself. Man, I'm eating really good and I'm training right now and man, my body, I normally would be leaning out right now. Yeah, you just overestimated your calorie bar. Yeah, I'm just overestimating how many calories I'm burning just cause I'm exercising and just cause I'm eating good doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to lean out. I'm over consuming calories. I'm not moving very much. I was, I put on, so I actually put on my Fitbit for a couple of weeks just to kind of get an idea, recalibrate where I was at. And what I found was I'm extremely sedentary right now. My only bit of activity is my training. The rest of it and maybe a little play with my son, the rest of it is really sitting down on this chair or sitting down in my car or in front of the computer. So I had to reduce my calories and or be aware of the days where maybe I go create more activity. So, you know, you got to either one, create more activity by going out and moving more, getting more steps, walking or low intensity cardio or reduce your calories. Next question is from Lassie Gutu. What are your personal opinions on diet breaks? I like them, but I don't like calling them diet breaks. That's the one thing. So what's real important with your nutrition, very important. A lot of people don't place any value on this, but this is actually one of the most important things is your mentality and attitude about what you're doing. If you're considering what you're doing with your nutrition, a diet, then you're already moving in the wrong direction because a diet means that you're at some point gonna go off the diet. This is a temporary way of living or a temporary type of solution. In which case a break then is, well, now I'm not within these rigid rules and a break means I can do whatever I want. And so this attitude tends to lend itself well to the on the wagon, off the wagon mentality where they're eating very strict and then they go off. It opens the floodgates. Yes. And this is something I've, yeah, I've paid attention to. You still have to be very mindful of what you're consuming. This may just mean in terms of using it in a healthy way is like you have a rigid structure that you're trying to have a very specific goal you're trying to achieve and a certain amount of weight you wanna lose, a certain amount of body fat, but then to be able to kind of pull back for a bit, still making mindful decisions about what you're putting in your body, but maybe a little less rigid in terms of like, I'm following my calories, I'm writing everything down every single day. That's how I see it. Yeah, the way I look at it is like things come up in your life. Once a week you may visit family or you may go out to dinner with your wife or you go out with your friends for lunch. If you're doing pretty damn good with your nutrition, those occasional things that pop up, well, there you go. Now when I go out to dinner with my friends on Saturday night, I don't even think about it as a break. I just think I'm gonna go out and enjoy myself with my friends. It actually prevents me from going crazy with the diet because if it was a break, then it tends to become all about the food and I overeat, but rather I'm going out with my friends and I'm just gonna enjoy myself. And today's dinner or lunch is about connecting with my friends and enjoying what we're doing. That's the way that I like to have flexibility with my nutrition. Not the scheduled Saturday's my diet break when then it turns into 15 pancakes for breakfast and all kinds of crazy food. You know, when I first started my Instagram and was tracking my journey and a lot of the things I was commenting on this stuff that I was seeing really popular in the space and the things that I didn't like, this reminds me of that. It reminds me of the cheat days. Same thing. It's such a popular thing in our space to talk about like, oh, you know, what do you guys think about cheat days? It's the same idea. Diet breaks, cheat days. The idea of you guys figuring out what you should be eating, it should be a lifestyle change. The goal is to figure out, and I hate even talking about diets. It's all made up. It's all made up to sell books to you, sell books to you and to market to you. Really the goal should be, and does that mean that you can't use diets to help figure out what works well for you? So if somebody's attached to how the ketogenic diet made them felt like, I'm not anti-ketogenic. If you followed the concepts around that and you felt way better and you got in good shape and you like eating that way, then attach yourself to that. What is the diet consist of? Not the diet itself. And that becomes your lifestyle way of eating. And the same thing goes for this person. It's like, don't be looking at it like you're either off the diet or you're on the diet or these break or these cheat days. It's like the journey or the goal should always be, I'm trying to find a way to eat where I have some flexibility. I enjoy what I eat on a regular basis. I don't have to be weighing and measuring and restricting all the time. That's the goal of all this because if you want it to be long-term, if you want to get to this desirable body or whatever it is that we're heading towards and you want to maintain that for the rest of your life, you've got to find something that's sustainable forever that doesn't require breaks. That doesn't require you to, oh my God, I need a day off or oh my God, I need a cheat day on Saturday because this has been terrible for the last five days. And then what will inevitably happen is the point that Sal brought up is, there's going to be a birthday. There's going to be these things and enjoy yourself and be normal. And then, but also, also be mindful. Did you just do a birthday and then you had a Friday night with your wife and then the night before that, you celebrated someone's graduation and the night before that was like boys. You know what I'm saying? Is there a trend here? I mean, you also got to be self-aware enough to know, like, you know, you're on a break or you're not following anything, you're really eating whatever the fuck you want. Like, the goal is to eat in this balanced way that feeds your body what it needs and keeps you in shape, it keeps you healthy. And occasionally when you have things socially that are important to you, right? So I went just last week, my nephew graduating and it was his birthday. We went to Topgolf for the day. And, you know, my family was drinking. And, you know, I had a chicken Caesar salad. It wasn't, and I didn't drink, I had a Diet Coke. It just, that was not the night for me. It was a Wednesday night, you know? I wasn't gonna party. I'm just, I got to drive all the way home so I had a long drive. It was ladies night. Yeah, I had a long drive ahead of me after that. This is not, and by the way, everybody else was drinking and having fried food and doing all that. But I was like, eh, it's, I'm not missing, to me I wasn't missing much. Chicken salad was fine for me at that. I had a Diet Coke, I enjoyed playing and then I went home. Like, you know, you make choices like that. Then, you know, I'm gonna have something coming up. I've got my, in two more weeks, I've got my cousin, who I'm very close to him, he has a wedding and we're gonna have a nice dinner and I'll probably have some cake and I'll probably have some champagne with him. And I'm gonna enjoy that because he doesn't get married that often, right? So, you know, be mindful of the choices that you make as far as around the lifestyle you're creating for yourself and allow those quote unquote breaks to organically happen when they make the most sense. But beware if you're abusing that too. That's what balance looks like. Next question is from Foveol the Castle. What are the pros and cons of the suicide grip for bench pressing? Oh, I think the name alone will tell you that the cons. So, suicide grip. Is there any real pro? Even though I benched this way a lot, by the way. Yeah, yeah, there is. So, it's a thumbless grip, right? So, you're holding the bar like this rather than your thumb around the bar and a lot of, you'll see a lot of power lifters and strength athletes and some body builders press this way and then you'll see other people say you should have your thumb around the bar. So, what are the pros, right? Well, the pros are the hand placement when you're thumbless and it actually shortens the lever just a little bit, right? So, when I grab with my thumb around, I'm probably adding a quarter inch or less but a little bit of lever length to my forearm. And what does that mean? A little bit more stability is involved in the press. When I shorten the lever, I'm probably able to lift more weight as a result. What are the cons? Well, you don't have your thumb around the bar and never happened to me. I've pressed like this before and now I press every time with my thumb around but I've seen people drop the bar. There's those scary videos where people, yeah, where they actually drop the bar and really hurt themselves. So, there's a high danger factor, I said in comparison, I guess, with that. But there are ways to put your thumb around and also kind of place it similar on your palm. That's how I grip. When I grip my thumbs around, but I still place it kind of low on the palm when I do my presses and it feels, you know. Well, I just look at it like most things, like even pull-ups or pulling where, there's people I do it without their thumb and honestly, in terms of having a really solid grip and trying to make sure that that's something that I'm always trying to strengthen, I'm trying to strengthen this nice tight fist. So, that also affects my wrists and reiterates a good position there for the force distribution. And so, I just think it creates bad patterns. I think it's one of those novelty things that like somebody makes an excuse for shitty form and that's just where I'm at. I mean, I think another con is that it's, you know, weak wrist, right? I mean, if you're resting right there on the bone and you're not having to actually stabilize and activate with your wrist, you could have weak wrist for that. And even weak forearms, the forearms are what are helping stabilize the wrist. So, that would be another con. And I guess pro for me, when I would use it, is it just felt more comfortable to me. And it's probably because it was a little bit easier. I never put that much thought into it. So, I kind of bounce back and forth. You'll see me do, most of the time I grip around the bar, I guess maybe sometimes when I, I think naturally I probably default when I go to like a max lift or I'm lifting towards that, I probably break the wrist and then go down in that position probably because it's easier for me. Let me ask you guys this, did you ever allow clients to press without the thumb? No. Exactly. It's just not good technique. It's not. You would never teach it that way. No, you wouldn't. And by the way, for people listening, we're like, what difference does it make with your wrist? I mean, look, there's a reason why power lifters wear wrist braces when they bench press. I remember this as a kid. I remember when bench press was like the lift of all lifts, right? I would do wrist wraps around the bar, tighten it up so that it was really tight around my wrist and I could lift more because it felt more stable around my wrist. So yeah, you might be able to lift more or feel like you can lift more. I don't know how much of a difference it makes because the lever is shorter. Is it worth it? No, it's not gonna contribute to more chest gains or shoulder or tricep gains. And then there is that increased risk. I don't think it's a huge increased risk, especially if you're doing it properly. If you dropping the bar on your chest, that sucks. I've seen some terrible videos online. If you're already doing it, it's whatever. If you're not doing it, there's no reason for you to do it, right? So if you're- There's no huge benefits though. That's what I'm saying. There's no real reason for you. If you're already benching with a complete grip, there's no reason for you to go to a false or a suicide grip, right? So I would never teach, like you said, that's a great way to ask it. Would I teach a client? I would never tell a client, hey, let go of the bar and let her just rest there. And now we're gonna do this exercise. Now I would tell them to grab on the bar and then we would teach them. Yeah, you don't see people do a thumbless grip with the chest press with dumbbells, right? So it's the same thing. Look, if you like our information, head over to mindpumpfree.com. Check out all of our free stuff. We've got tons of free stuff there that you can learn from and read from. 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