 Like it was all with he was like yo, this is what I want and face we looked at it like a face says, okay Cool, like like because at the end of the day for us outcast King shit That's us so for him one and just put the crown on you know, that's something three thousand will never do So you like yeah I got a shit about I thought about ti You know cuz he come up with y'all the first ones you say I heard you say y'all the first one that did y'all put him on stage We put him on TV first time. He was on BET. We was in DC. Okay, and but and that was the rubber band man No, that was the first album. That was that was when he was sign of the face People didn't even pay attention to them They ain't they ain't get on tip T came back with the second album. That's when he left LA and went Atlantic That's when he found it. What did you think about him as he grew because he wanted to dope his guys I'll I'll watch him down there. I've been watching him since he been a Kid, I want you what do you think when he came up with the title? I'm the king and I thought it was dope I thought it was great because uh Other south of the at that time. I just thought it was great for him to say it It was great for him to jump on it and and want to run with it, you know, uh His peers said it was cool. You know, I mean like, you know, the only person I would even put in the room with him All day long is Lil Wayne. So if Lil Wayne said he was cool I'm no goblin you can be the king It was cool and then for him to call Scarface he called he came to the dungeon holiday everybody like man This is what I want to do. I just so he was respectful with it. Yeah He was all the way respect for all the way around the board all the way to from All the way and from Scarface all the way back to us like it was all the way He was like, yo, this is what I want and face We looked at it like if face says, okay, cool Like like because at the end of the day for us outcast king. Shit. That's us So for him wanting to just put the crown on, you know, that's something three thousand will never do So he was like, yeah So so for shawty to do it we felt like That was our pimp that was you know shawty fire. He gonna get he gonna get out there and get to it Like you don't do all the shit pimp gonna do so we thought like yes like you could do it and um I felt like it was a great thing for him because it just pushed him to want to be the best at that moment in time, you know The whole thing with little flipping all that. I mean That's what it was. You know, I mean like I looked at all of that as being just The last remnants of what really started in texas, you know With mike jones and everybody I felt like that whole the time period. It was a lot of Elbow being thrown and I think you know, either you're gonna take The the the front position or you're gonna, you know get Pushed to the side and uh, hey man, you seen what happened. I like the way you uh, the way you explain it When you when you refer to the peers because that's very important That you know the people that you're dealing with on the level that you're on And I think that's something that will get lost in the sauce sometime when you if you just not thinking that way The way you saying that kind of lines it up and scales it and structures it in a different way Okay, so and I say it that way because you know People the execs and stuff like that in new york just never gave the execs from the south any credit like They just always and see I look at it like this most of the time them same execs They got so much to say about the little jays and the masterpiece and the babies They never did then they never created no extra using their own money It was always somebody else money and I think one thing that the south has shown and proven Texas is gonna stand on his own tennessee gonna stand on his own Georgia Florida everybody we got our own music and we got our own heroes But one thing about it is that our fan bases are a lot loyal They're they're loyal to us because when our last concert in dallas man like Summer homeboys they draw they they in the library drinking moonshine. They like man. Look man. You know, we can Drink your moon. They like give it in the country man that soul food out man really helped us down here man People really live to that. We feel like y'all with us. We was y'all's, you know, I mean and that's that's to me. That's What eight ball mjg? What ugk mean us? But I you keep saying eight ball mjg. I I gotta my boy mr. Mike You know and I that sound circle album was real serious. He was one of the big And I told him after I interviewed him I say I'm not gonna let your name not be mentioned with these people because when I was riding in that car Yeah, and I put that listen when I put that on He didn't miss Ice cream never come to see that boy And then Tony draper and all of them, but I'm just saying an mjg eight ball were producing like crazy A real real term in Texas. Texas was on fire then I look at it now that that's the reason why We talking about what we talking about today why I had why why I have been able to survive as long as that I've always Tried to find what's new