 I'm really, really, really trying not trying to sound overly dramatic, but I was honestly debating on making this video for like a while after I watched the last episode, The Enemies of Jake Paul by Shane Dawson because of the ending and Katie Morton is coming back. And this is actually a really, really serious subject, which is why I was debating on talking about it. But I think I can do it in the right way, but we really need to talk about mental health ethics. We are trying to come up with a plan because if I bring Katie the therapist with us and she's there the whole time, I don't think he's going to be like himself. I don't think he's going to be comfortable. I think he's going to be kind of fake. So I came up with a plan and it sounds really shady. And I've never done anything like this before. The plan is I'm going to have Katie the therapist pretend to be our producer and she is going to be with us the whole day watching, listening, analyzing Jake's body language, seeing what he's like when the camera turns off. And then throughout the day, she's going to kind of take me in another room. See, Jake will have no idea and then we'll go into the other room and I'll just be like, how's it going? What do you think? What is up everybody? This is Chris from the Rewired Soul where we talk about the problem, but focus on the solution. And if you're new to my channel, my channel is all about mental health and helping you improve your mental health. So if you're into that kind of stuff, make sure you subscribe and ring that notification bell. So let's talk about ethics real quick. Like with my ethics and with my morals and my values, like I feel that I would be doing my audience a disservice if I didn't make a video on this. All right. I know a lot of you who subscribed to my channel, you know, you care about mental health, you care about your mental health or the mental health of others. And a very serious topic is ethics in the mental health field. So when I saw the ending of The Enemies of Jake Paul, they were showing a preview for the next episode and I saw, you know, what Shane was talking about with Katie Morenan. I'm like, oh my God, like I was on my live stream. If any of you want to check it out, it'll be linked up in the info card. But like my jaw was on the floor and you can see me going through this process and talking like, should I make a video on this? Because if they go through with this, this can potentially lead to a lot of really bad things and it could be really unethical. So before I really dive into this video, I want to say a few things. Okay. And I talk about it a little bit in the live stream replay. Like these, nothing's happened yet. Nothing has happened yet. This is this is speculation. Okay. So if if I am wrong or whatever happens, I swear to you, I will make a follow up video to discuss this. Okay. Because if any of you have been watching me for at least a week or two, you know that I love and respect Katie Morenan. I think she is an amazing therapist. I don't think that a lot of backlash that came her way was fair. But if this plays out the way that Shane is saying it's going to play out, then I really got to take a step back and look at it. But like I said, I'm not going to accuse her of anything. I'm going to try really, really hard to watch how I speak about this. Because even me, you know, claiming that she is doing something unethical is not good. But I think, you know, what I what I try to do with my channel I try to take things that are happening in the YouTube community and pop culture to try to teach you about mental health. So for any of you out there who are looking for, you know, therapy or if any of you are, you know, have a loved one who's looking for therapy, like it's really important that you know about ethics and what your rights are as a client or as a patient or whatever it is. So this is a great opportunity to discuss these things. So before I jump into this really cool guest appearance I have, I want to say so right now and some of you have asked me this you've like asked my credentials, like that's the new thing is like asking everybody their credentials. So currently I am pursuing my CADC. What that is is a certified alcohol and drug counselor. All right, I should be certified by the beginning of 2019. And right now, the class I'm taking is about ethics and legal stuff so ethics is like really in the forefront of my mind right now. I've been working in the mental health industry for a little over three years now and ethics is something that I always take very seriously. One of them is because not only am I recovering alcoholic and addict but I've struggled with mental health issues, depression, anxiety, you know, all sorts of stuff. So, like ethics is really important for me like I really truly care about everybody who I help and everybody who's coming into treatment and all that. So like, this is a really important subject for me. So when I watched that video. And at the ending I was like, you know what, like I'm currently taking a class on ethics. I am not the best at, you know, ethics yet Katie obviously knows way more than me with her experience. But you know who knows more than me and Katie is my mama. My mom is Dr. Carrie F. Rendazzo. She has a PhD in psychology and she has been in the field for over a decade now. All right. So I was like, I don't know all the answers. So what I wanted to do was I wanted to call my mom because I was like, Mom, I don't even know if I should make this video. And it's really funny. You'll see like my mom's like, wait, what's going on? She's really confused. But I wanted to hear from somebody who's been in the industry for this long. And my mom, me and my mom are very similar and my mom is a recovering alcoholic. She's coming up on 13 years sober. Like ethics are very important to her too. So I knew that she would be the exact person to ask about this. So I recorded my phone call with my mom. She knew I was recording it. So it wasn't like secretive. But I hope the audio is okay. But yeah, you'll see it after I edit it and I have a few tricks up my sleeve. All right, so please give a warm welcome to my mother, Dr. Carrie F. Rendazzo. And yeah, here it goes. Okay, so you got like five, five minutes, maybe 10 minutes. Yeah. Okay, so I'm going to just kind of give you like a brief overview of this story. I'm trying to make a video for my YouTube channel. So basically they're going to interview this guy, but they're worried that he won't be real with them. They're trying to find out if he's a sociopath or not, you know, whatever. But anyways, they featured a licensed therapist in episode two. Okay. Now they're afraid like the people interviewing this guy. Okay, so they talked about sociopaths in episode two. Well, now they're going to meet, they're going to meet this guy in the next episode. But he wants to bring the therapist with him. So the concern is, is that this guy's not going to be real or honest if he knows this woman is a therapist. So what they're, what they're talking about doing is bringing her but saying that she's a producer and not a therapist. So like, my question is, is that like unethical? Because she's like trying to get like a diagnosis. All right. Like, is that unethical? Yes. No, so you don't know. But would you say it's unethical for her to give a diagnosis if this guy did not know that she was like evaluating him? Yeah, like, would you, like, would you do that? Yeah, it's on, it's on YouTube. YouTube is the new TV. Like they're trying to get to the bottom. Like the series is, is this guy a sociopath? You know what I mean? So they're trying to do it and like, I don't know, you ask, you're asking too, why I'm asking you the questions here, Bob. No, no, it's just, it's just like millionaire YouTuber, the guy's name is Jake Paul. He has like millions of dollars, millions of subscribers. Yeah. I mean, because what is she, a psychologist? She's an LMFT, licensed marriage and family care. Oh, you know what that means. Why am I explaining it to you? No, that's, that's what I'm saying. They're going to introduce her as a producer. So he does not know that she is a therapist. You think that that would cause him harm? Say they say they do that. Yeah. So would you think it was deceptive if like, what if they got the, what if they got consent afterwards? Like, oh, surprise. She was a therapist. See, it's good. It's good. I call him. So even if she like worded it, like, yeah, even if she worded it and she says, listen, I'm not giving him a diagnosis, but based on this, it sounds like he might be a sociopath. Like, do you think like that could even cause him harm? Alright, let's give a big round of gas. But, but yeah, like, I'm glad I talked to her about it. And just so you all know, she sent me a text later, my mom's like me, where she'll like think about something even more than like have more to say. And my mom sent me a follow up text that says the more I think about it is unethical dot dot dot major. So what my mom's bringing up is like, can it cause the person harm, right? And yeah, like, so we don't know how this is going to play out yet. We don't, we don't know. And I just want to make that clear again for any of you who ignored by disclaimer. Okay. But if, if they go through with this, it is unethical. Like, it's, it's not okay. It's not okay to secretly do this. Like, I was giving, I gave Katie Morton so many props, like, you know, even, even though people hear what they want to hear, Katie Morton was not giving anybody a diagnosis in episode two. No diagnosis whatsoever. And she states that it would be unethical for her to do so, right? So if she went in there as a secret therapist, not as a producer. It would have been really, really unethical because if she comes back, even if she said and like, even if she said like, you know, based on what I saw, yeah, you know, he could be like, even that is unethical. And that can get in a lot of trouble. Like, I say these things like I just don't think, I don't think that's what it would be. I just don't think so. When it comes to mental health, when it comes to mental health or even physical health, like, know your rights, know, know what's ethical and what's not ethical. Like, like, consent is really, really important. It is extremely important. Like, I can't even like take pictures at my facility, because even if it shows like the back of somebody's head without consent, right? So like, consent is extremely, extremely important. So like, my fear about this is that even if they skirted around this, even if, you know, they did this or whatever, like, my concern would be that Katie's reputation in like the professional community would be tarnished. And like, I don't know, is she, you know, would she do this for views? I just, I don't, I don't know. And maybe it's just because I like Katie more than I always try to check in with myself because like, you know, being someone's fan or liking their content, that can, you know, create a bias, you know what I mean? So like, somebody, first my girlfriend texted me, she's like, Oh, no, this ending. This ending is going to give Shane a lot of crap. I'm like, what is it? Like, she finished it before me. And when I saw it, and I was, I was talking to her. I'm like, Oh my God, like, I don't know. I hope they don't. But my girlfriend was saying that, you know, there's going to look that on Shane. And so I want to make this clear. So when it comes to ethics and stuff like that, like, Shane would be nowhere at fault in this. So if they did go through with this, and this is the way it played out. It should not be at fault. Shane is not the professional. Shane is not the licensed therapist in the situation. So Shane is not expected to know better. Now, if he ends up doing like, you know, secret recordings and hidden camera stuff that I don't know the legal issues with that and the state of California or whatever. But if this happens, like if there were legal ramifications, they would be all on Katie and you know, she could lose her license or whatever the case is. So Shane would be in the clear on it because Shane's not expected to know any better. But like, I will say this, you know, after the first episode or even the second episode, Jake Paul, actually Jake Paul made it before the first episode. He's like, watch this before you watch Shane's documentary. And Jake says that he knew everything. He said Shane told him everything, literally everything. So what I'm hoping is that maybe this is overdramatized. Maybe they're just, you know, doing this for a show or whatever. And Jake knows and all that. And if that's the case, like cool, kind of cool, because you're still not really getting a good depiction. But I am going to make two more videos about that episode. But I think, I think Shane's just realizing that Jake is just a person and maybe a bad person. But I'm going to talk more about that in the next video. But anyways, this is this is an important subject. Like I know some of you are seeking mental health help. And it's important to know. And if you have questions about ethics and stuff like that, like leave them down in the comments. If I don't know, I'll try to steer you in the right direction. But it's important to know these things. Like, I hope you are all aware, you those of you in the United States, this thing called HIPAA. Okay, like you have rights as a patient where they cannot disclose, you know, confidential information about you. Like this is really, really important stuff. So again, like I hope I did this video justice. I'm not accusing Katie of anything. I hope this is all just a show. I hope when we see the next episode, I hope they say never mind. We're not going to do that. Like I hope that, you know, if Shane wanted to do this, I hope they show Katie saying, No, that's unethical. We cannot do that. This is just kind of what I hope happens, or that it's fake. But even if it's still fake, like I said, it might damage Katie's reputation. But anyways, I would love to know your thoughts. If you have any experiences, that might be interesting too. If you have any experiences you want to share in the comments below about experiences you've had, whether with mental health care or your physical health experiences with things that were unethical, like let's have a conversation about it. Like it's important to know this because I'm somebody who used to hate doctors and medical professionals and mental health professionals. I didn't trust anybody. I had a lot of trust issues, but I try to tell people like there's there's good and there's bad. There's good doctors and bad doctors, good therapists and bad therapists. But I think just by having a conversation in the comments below, more people will be educated about this and know when the right time is to get a different health care professional. You know what I mean? But anyways, that's all I got for this video. I will be making more. So make sure you stay tuned. If you liked this video, please give it a thumbs up. 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