 Following the political crisis rocking under state over the continued feud between Governor Ulua Rotimiakre Ulua and his deputy, Luki Ayeda Tiwa, the leader of a feniferae power, Ruben Faso Roti, and some elders in under state have appealed to President Balati Numbutu urgently intervening the situation. Faso Roti, wu led author elder statesmen under the ages of under state elders and leaders, disclosed that the political crisis, particularly the absence of the governor has been affecting governors in the state. A communique signed by the AFNIFERRE leader and the group's secretary, Bakita Bello, after an emergency meeting in Nakura, the state capital asserted that some people have ejected the governance of the state. The elders also maintained that if the development is not quickly addressed, it will no doubt affect the preparation of the 2024 budget. While decrying the absence of the state in kushu national events due to the crisis, the elder statesmen said there is no clear direction within the state civil service. Joining us to look at the ongoing feud between Governor Luarotimi Akredo Luar and his deputy is a human rights lawyer and political analyst, Allen Shureh Esq. Allen, gud to have you on plus politics. Good evening. Thank you for having me. Would you want to give us a summary of what is happening in on those gobernatorial suites? Thank you very much. Yes, the summary that since April 3, 2023, the gun has been away because of a helmet that is protracted and nobody wish him that but as human sometimes when disposed and as a result of his status. I think, I think, I know the problem we call the kitchen, I call the members of the Kaba. They have taken over the states. They have a job. Can you hear me? We can hear you but sometimes you fade off and you know. Go ahead please. Go ahead. Let's try for a while. Okay. As they have hijacked the situation, we don't know the whereabouts of Mr. Governor and they exploited the states. They are using this period to take our resources, the state resources on control and they have denied the process of transmission of power from the governor to the deputy governor in these circumstances. And everything in on those states stands still from local government administration to the state judiciary and the executive you can know. The governor is not available, his deputy is fighting hard to save himself from impeachment. The speaker of the assembly is nowhere to be found. So in on those states the situation is a paralysis that is complete paralysis of the governor in on those states. That is why we have to appreciate the time we have come together at this crucial time in national life to intervene or in our state life to intervene. Mr. President, please come to our rescue. As president of MBA, Vice President Dumar Yadwa was sick, I remember the then senior advocate of Nigeria, Akre Dolu, advising Yadwa to speedily get well from where it was taken to for treatment, come back home and come and resign. Because according to Akre Dolu then it was not supposed to be, it was not supposed to use his sickness unfortunately as it was to be holding Nigeria down to a state of paralysis. Isn't it ironic that now the same Akre Dolu is sick and for months on end now is left to state not only in a state of paralysis but he could easily with a kind of either polite or eating remonstrance. I have stopped the members of the state of assembly who are now going gone go literally chasing kind of hounding the deputy governor with this impeachment saga. What will be your response to all this? My response is that as much as we can blame the governor we must as well equally understand the situation. Perhaps he is no longer in the position to take charge of himself. So more I want to blame the MBA because Akre Dolu then was using the MBA that is the apex body of the Nigeria bar that is apex body that comprises all the lawyers in Nigeria as the chairman then. So the question is what is the position or the present chairman of the Nigeria bar association? What is he saying? Why are they not speaking? Well where are the lawyers? About a couple of, about two or three weeks ago we saw pictures of the governors of south west states obnobbing with him in his house, reportedly in his house in Ibanu. And he wasn't looking like somebody who was in comatose. He knew he was sick. He knew he couldn't give the best to the state. And one would have thought that just like he counseled Umar Musa Yadua to do for the love of the state. He could have also hid his own counsel. Yes, we saw the pictures from report where you have his situation has changed ever since the governor left. So that's why I'm saying that we may have to start to blame the people around him because for now nobody knows where the governor is. He is not within the state. We are not sure if he is in Badon. And the speaker of the state as of assembly that should have done beneath, I desire to look the other way around. So this situation is very, very dicey to intervene because we don't know the current status of the governor. And after this time we have to blame him. We have to be blaming those who are taking his whole state. Those who are collecting ransom from the state. So those who are responsible for his whereabouts. It is time we should beam a satellite on them to ask where is he gone. And in the absence of the legislature that is the state as of assembly triggering the constitutional provision that ought to have been triggered in circumstances like this. And also in given the fact that the state as of assembly is now the stormy patrol first in the dysfunctionalism of governance. By chasing who the constitutional ordinarily recognizes as the person who should be deputizing for the governor in his absence. They are chasing around now with a threat of impeachment. So what can be done now? You are a lawyer. What can somebody like you, who is an indigent of the state or a resident of the state, what can somebody do in the absence of the failure of institutions and public officers? Yes. As of yesterday, I am one of the lawyer representing some public-spirited individuals and civil society who are taking on this matter on themselves. By filing a process at the state high court in Akure and requesting the state high court to interpret this various sessions that you have mentioned. Mr. Vice-Session 189 of the constitution of the federal republic of Nigeria is amended. We stipulate that in this situation a candidate should be set up to examine the health status of the governor to see that he can continue in office which is the responsibility of the speaker. The process is equally exploiting the provision of session 192 which is declared at the house of assembly after 21 days of the governor travelling or being unavailable or unable to perform his duty should, through a resolution, send to a resolution, pass to transmit power to his deputy. So the process is there. It was filed yesterday and I am very sure I have confidence in the Nigeria judiciary that by the time they exploit the prayer process in the court process we will come out from this log job. I am thinking the under state elders and leaders plea to the president of the republic I am thinking is that plea not somewhat superfluous and why am I saying that? The governor is nowhere to be found. Nobody knows his whereabouts. As you just told us, I thought before commencing this program that they rationalized that he was more emotionally and circumstantially comfortable in Ibadan and that he is in Nigeria but in Ibadan. We saw pictures of his colleague governor from the south west but in the face of what you have just intimated us with now that his whereabouts is not known what are they pleading to the president to do to intervene by calling the members of the status of assembly who are the ones frustrating the deputy governor from performing his constitutional duties in the absence of his principal or what because they really have to be specific about the case here is being messy and it is getting messy by the day. Thank you very much. The president is a leader of a nation and you must equally know the fact that he is of the same party with Akire Dolu. So the president is the chief, is commander-in-chief of the armed forces as much as we are saying that we don't know his whereabouts security reports on the death of the Mr.president will definitely show where Governor Akire Dolu is and the president will of course know his status if you remember during Yadua it was Obama who went to Yadua's Munda and advised that he should tell his son to resign so Mr.president is the leader of the country is the leader of APC so he could exploit political solution by calling member of the status assembly who are equally majority of them are members of APC and they tell them to go and stop the shenanigans he can as well appeal to the speaker personally as his son to go and carry out his sacred duty without wanting to again say without wanting to contradict the logic in your submission we must also let our viewers know that our Progressive Congress at some point the leadership of your Progressive Congress APC sent in a chieftain of the party former governor of Kassina state and former speaker of the House of Representatives Masari to intervene in the umbrella between the House of Assembly and the deputy governor and you know for a while we thought that was going to be that was going to be settled the dust but it does seem that the members of the House of Assembly somewhat resolute in their determination to make the state ungovernable I don't know how you want to respond to that Yes, yes that is why the calling of the presidents is very very relevant when the members of the ESCO National Executive of APC put in place a committee was there no report submitted to the president who is the leader of the party if there is a report the calling of the president now will be to act on that report then number two which is equally important the National Assembly by version of session 11 of the constitution can take over the function of the status of assembly this period and perform that duty as a lawyer you know that the technicalities involved in activating the provision is still somewhat organically nebulous is not easy for the House of Representatives of the National Assembly to just take over because ordinarily the state of the House of Assembly will be claiming that they are not in crisis and they are still functional I wonder if my thinking is a bit too distant from yours I would want to respond to that Yes the constitution provision does not mention crisis what the constitution mention is that whenever the status of assembly fail or unable or refuse to carry out their duties the National Assembly can please take over that is what the constitution is saying about the peace and the progress of the nation and of such state is not necessarily when the country is in crisis if you want to defy crisis even in our situation in those states we already have full crisis at the local government level like I told you earlier that has collapsed Barista Arlen Barista Arlen we want to thank you for your for your contribution and your your enlightenment we wish all of you in those states all the best we pray that this this Roforofo fight I was going to use the word for Rory but Roforofo kept coming on my tongue I would get resolved early enough for the good governments of the people of those states you can have millions of people just being at the mercy of thank you very much we do appreciate you thank you for your contribution you are welcome