 Okay, very good morning to everyone. We are doing this course on the book of Hebrews, so we will continue from where we stopped in the last class. But before we get started, let's take time to pray. Would anyone like to lead in prayer please? I just feel free. I'm not going to insist that any particular person pray. Let's pray. Dear Lord Jesus, we thank you for this time and for this moment, Lord Jesus. This time we pray that Lord Jesus is here. Going through this says so much. We ask you that Jesus, you lead us and guide us. So that we will learn what you have prepared for us, Lord Jesus, so that we can equip ourselves, Lord Jesus, by your Spirit card. Thank you, Lord. As we are going to deeper in your Word, Father, let the Word should work and to be excellent in our life, Lord Jesus. We submit each one of us to your mighty hand. We submit person Nancy to your mighty hand, Jesus. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. I just wanted to check if you can all hear me okay? It should be fine. So just quickly want to review what we learned in the last class. So we started with Hebrews chapter 1. And over there we saw that the author writes to a set of Jewish believers who are persecuted, who are going through some tough challenges in their journey. And just so they don't let go of the faith, he has words of encouragement and he also has words of warning to say that if they don't press him, they are actually in a vulnerable place where their faith can be taken and eventually it could even lead to them going away from the faith. And so he tries to show them all the wonderful things about this salvation in Christ Jesus. And to begin with, he started out proclaiming the deity of our Lord Jesus Christ. As we studied that first chapter there, we saw that our God is a speaking God. We saw the Lord Jesus and all the titles, the qualities, the character which is attributed to him. We also observed that the angels who might have been a set of, let's say, some category of heavenly beings that people of those times worshipped, he was also trying to emphasize on the fact that that practice was not a godly practice. And in the true sense, angels are but spirits, they are heavenly beings but they are created and they are subject to the Lordship of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. And so even the angels worship the Lord Jesus, that's another point that we made. And we saw how there is this whole harmony in the Godhead and not just the synchrony and the interaction, honourable interaction within the Godhead, but we saw the honour that the Father actually places on the Son. So it shows us a beautiful picture of the Lord Jesus and it helps us understand in the Gospels, particularly in the book of John, we see many claims of Jesus, the I am claims where Jesus says I am the light of the world, I am the bread of life, I am the resurrection and the life. So he's claiming deity, I am even before Abraham was. So he's claiming deity by himself and here the writer of Hebrews is attributing deity to the Lord Jesus and he makes, he substantiates his point, he shares so many reasons why the Lord Jesus is exalted and that really enlightened us to worship him and to honour and glorify him. So chapter one as such, it talks about the deity of our Lord Jesus Christ. Now we have to remember that the letters of the Bible or the passages in the Bible, they were written by authors and they did not necessarily classify them into verses. That is for our convenience, that was done later on. So in one, you could take it as the writer of the Hebrews wanted to convey the greatness of our Lord Jesus, but then he has these sections where he emphasises that the Lord Jesus is this and the Lord Jesus is, he has other attributes. So we will find that the writing, now that somebody has classified it as chapters and verses, they will have a singular theme in most of the places. So chapter one as such the singular theme is the Lord Jesus as deity. So that we have established. Now coming to chapter two, the primary thought that we will see here is the fact that he was fully human, he was human. So in Christology, we talk about this beautiful mystery that the Lord Jesus is fully man and he is fully God. So fully God that we have discussed, fully man is the part that the author will come to. So chapter two, we started off in the last class, he established that the Lord Jesus is great and he is God and therefore take everything seriously. The message he brought or what he said, take it seriously, he insists on that. So we read something like, therefore we must give the more earnest heed to the things we have heard lest we drift away. So it's also an encouragement for us as believers, we are journeying through, you know, this faith journey is going on. And many times our tendency is to think when I was born again, I learned so many things about God, I was excited, I was on fire for God. Or we can point out certain six cents of our lives where we may say, oh, that was a great height that I achieved in my spiritual work. And then, you know, we keep those as memories, but we don't really refresh the truth to ourselves over and over again. But there is a necessity. You see what the author is saying? He is saying, you must give the more earnest heed to the things he is saying we have heard. Or we can say this about the truth that we have also heard, the salvation we have experienced, whatever we have learned about God. It's not like we learned it and we put it away and then we move on. It doesn't work like that. We've learned it, we have lived, we have worshipped the Lord with that truth which we have learned. But here is the reality, the Christian work, we kind of discard it. We have to keep going back to many of those truths and refresh ourselves. So give them more earnest heed to the things which you have heard, the things which we have heard the writer says. So to refresh ourselves, to keep ourselves fired up in the Lord at all times, even with the things that we have learned in the past. So that is his urge to these believers. And what is the risk of not doing that? What is the risk of not being fired up and passionate and, you know, remaining current with the Word of God? He says, the risk is there is a probability to drift away and we discussed that a ship which is not anchored, the drifting doesn't happen suddenly. Suddenly the ship was here and now it is so many nautical miles away. No, it doesn't happen like that. It happens more subtly and that is the reality when we talk to or we know of instances where people have gone away from God. It has not happened in one day. It's very subtle and it can also be very slow and gradual where the person is not realizing that the drifting is happening. So you see, there are all these dangers. So our Christian walk has to be a walk with initiative at all times. We need some initiative. The moment we say, huh, let me relax. Let me, you know, I've seen it all. When we have that kind of an attitude, it puts us at risk of something known as drifting away. But in the Christian journey, there's only one way. And that is the way forward. And one needs to be pressing it. I'm not talking about, you know, all your human effort and, you know, through works to walk with the Lord. That's not the point. But it's more like how Jeremiah says, seek the Lord and you will find Him. So there is a place for taking that initiative and in our faith journey at all points, we need to have that initiative. There should be not a single point where we say, okay, now I have graduated. So, you know, let me just relax and not do anything about my faith or my worship. But at all times, we are at the edge of the seat where we are excited. We are passionate. And that is the attitude which will prevent what, you know, we are discussing the drifting away. So, be warned. Take the most, give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard lest we drift away. And so he goes on and he says, you know, if there was punishment or consequence to disobedience to the word which angels gave. And I clarified to us in the last class, angels doesn't need the spirit beings, heavenly beings, angels. Because that word is translated as messenger from the Greek angelos. So, messenger can also be a human person. And we know that the law to the children of Israel came through Moses, the messenger. And he's reminding them, look, even the message that was handed over to Moses, that had serious consequences for disobedience. So, how is it that we can neglect the word or the message that has come directly to us? Remember, we said something like the picture of the son and the ray of the son. So, the Lord Jesus, he's the radiance of the Father. He's expressing the Father. He's bringing a message of revealing the Father to us. And when he has done all this directly, so to speak, how can we neglect it? When neglecting a message that has been brought, you know, so-called indirectly had its consequences. So, he's alerting people at saying, please don't take it lightly. Don't take your faith lightly. Don't take this walk of obedience lightly at any point. And so, he is adding words of warning there was three where he says, how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation? You know, it's like him emphasizing again and again what has been given to us is wonderful. It's a treasure. Wake up. Don't think that it's something simple. It's not. God has handed over a very, very, you know, like priceless, priceless salvation into our hands. So, he says, so great a salvation. Just in understanding what this salvation is, you know, we will be amazed. Oh, wow. This is the kind of salvation that the Lord Jesus has brought for us and it is in our hands. So, this attitude of neglect, you know, yeah, I'm a believer. I can now go to heaven. It's fine. That's all this whole walk is about. That's in a way, it's a very, you could say irreverent attitude. That attitude doesn't have honor to the salvation. See, he uses the word great a salvation and he wanted those discouraged believers during those times to remember. And even today, as we journey with the Lord, we may encounter rough patches where, you know, things are not going smooth or promises have not yet been fulfilled or, you know, we are going through some persecution, some lack, some failure, maybe even some personal loss. And we may wonder, is it really worth it to stick with the Lord to press on to the finish line? But see here, the author is trying to bring the attention of the believers to what is important. You know, sometimes you have to have first things first. We need to have priority. The main thing should be the main things. And so he's saying, yes, the discouragement is very real. We are not trying to play it down, but shift your focus to what you have and what you have is very great. I hope you realize that. How can we neglect it? How shall we escape? If we neglect so great a salvation, so the focus lights are shifting towards, yes, discouragement, persecution is a reality, but there is a greater reality. We have in our hands a great salvation. Shouldn't that be more exciting? That's the way he's talking to these believers. And of course, he says, which at first began to be spoken. So how did the salvation come? Began to be spoken by the Lord and was confirmed to us by those who heard him. So, you know, we have all these prophecies in the Old Testament that the Christ will come. He will redeem us. So it was communicated through the Lord in many ways to us. And of course, the Lord Jesus came in flesh and blood and the truths of the kingdom were revealed to the people. Many things were revealed to the people. That's what he's talking about. God promised, God fulfilled in flesh and blood. We had Jesus with us and notice verse 4. He says, God also bearing witness both with science and wonders, with various miracles and gifts of the Holy Spirit according to his own will. He's saying this life and ministry that the Lord Jesus demonstrated before our eyes, one of the salient features of the ministry of Jesus is he taught, he preached. But you remember, the Bible also says that he delivered. So there was this backing by the supernatural upon his ministry that we have witnessed. So that was the kind of message that the Lord Jesus brought us. He spoke the words, but he also did the works. And that becomes our standard, isn't it? We've talked about this even in the Book of Acts. The Lord Jesus, he preached, he taught and he did the works of the Father, the supernatural works of the Father. And even in the Book of Hebrews, you see the integrity of what we believe. It's the same throughout the Gospels. Yes, that is the life and ministry of Jesus. The Book of Acts, yes, that is the life and ministry of Jesus. It did not lack power in Hebrews, first century believers. It has been passed on the same way. They continue to believe that God backed up the teaching, the preaching, everything by a supernatural power. So there were signs and wonders accompanying the ministry of Jesus. One application point for us is even today, as we do our ministry, all of us are called for various things. We have the grace to minister in different ways. But whatever that particular ministry is, here is something we can take from Hebrews. The Lord Jesus' ministry was backed by signs, wonders, miracles. And today, for us as believers, it hasn't changed. Nowhere does it say that you just teach preach, forget about the supernatural works of God. We continue to do it because Jesus said, you shall do greater works than these. And the gifts of the Holy Spirit are operational today. So as we minister, one expectation that we should have is, yes, I'm doing my part. God will back me up the way He backed up Jesus with signs, wonders and miracles. Now that is an expectation we should carry. Now I know we will grow into this and we will see greater and greater things happen through our lives. So press in, press in and trust God that as we pray, as we speak the word, as we encourage, release the gifts of the Holy Spirit, something supernatural that God will do in the lives of the people that we are ministering to. So these are some of the points that we gain from here. So as I told us, the author will begin to talk about Jesus and reveal to us another aspect about Jesus. So we are moving on to that thought now. So from verse 5 to verse 8, I would like to request someone to please go ahead and read that passage please. Verses 5 to 8. Verses 5 to 8, it reads, It is not to angels that He subjected the world to come, about which we are speaking. But there is a place where someone has testified. What is mankind that you are mindful of them? A son of man that you care for him. You made them a little lower than the angels. You crowned them with glory and honor. And put everything under their feet. In putting everything under them, God left nothing that is not subject to them yet at present. We do not see everything subject to them. To 9 or to 8. 8 is good for now. Thank you for reading that passage. So let's see what we can gain from this particular section. He says, for He has not put the world to come of which we speak in subjection to angels. So that again is each word there we can get stuck on it forever. Because it shows us the love of God. As we read in the book of Peter that He Himself took, He took our sins in His own body and He was nailed to the cross. It shows us how much God loves us. That He wouldn't delegate it to another heavenly being which He could have done. He could have just asked an angel to come and do the redemptive work for us. But knowing the way things were set in place, God took it upon Himself. And He came for us. That one verse there, it really pours out the love of God on us to think, wow, God would do this for me. God would do this for me. He did not put this world under the subjection of angels. We eventually see that the author is talking about Jesus who has the dominion now. So let's move on verse 6. But one testified in a certain place saying what is man that you are mindful of Him or the Son of man that you take care of Him. So over there there is again, these are all possibilities that have been picked up from the Old Testament. And there is reference to the dominion of man over here. We talked about it from Genesis chapter 1 verses 26-27 where God says He gave the authority to man and He said, okay, subdue the world, be blessed, be fruitful and multiply. So dominion of man is what we see there. And we know that in Psalms 115 verse 16, it says that the heavens belong to the Lord but the earth He has given to the sons of men. So it's talking about that. What is man that you are mindful of Him or the Son of man that you take care of Him. So even though man was created by God, created being, like many other created beings, something was different about man. We were made in the likeness of God. We were given the image of God. So there's some special, you know, some special attention, some focus that man has received. Now, he goes on, he says, you have made Him a little lower than the angels. You have crowned Him with glory and honor and set Him over the works of your hands. Again, emphasis on the dominion of man which we understand. But what is this point about? You have made Him a little lower than the angels. What do you think that means? You made Him a little lower than the angels. Does it mean that we have a lower dominion? Yes, say. I'm sorry. Were you asking the question or you're just making a comment? It's a question. Oh, because I was going to also ask that question because most of all the translations say angels. And then there are some translations that say Elohim. So because if from the beginning angels are mainstream spirit to the heirs of salvation, then I don't think it should contradict, this statement should contradict what has already been said earlier on. So to an extent, I want to believe that this is supposed to be Elohim. I may be wrong. I don't know, but because if angels are actually mainstream spirits to the heirs of salvation, which is us men basically, angels are not subject to us. Instead, we are subjected to them in Christ Jesus. So I want to believe it should be God that's Elohim basically. But I'm still open to correction if it's not the correct translation or interpretation. Okay. Thank you. I'm actually like that trail of thought. It's very theological because we are trying to interpret that one portion of scripture. You're on the right track. So if all of scripture shows us that we have dominion, we've already established in the previous passage that angels are ministering spirits and they aid the heirs of salvation. So which means technically that angels are in a sense serving us, right? Or not in a sense, they are, of course, serving us. We are not serving angels. So that is established. Here it seemingly contradicts. It seemingly contradicts. So that's how far we've come in our discussion. And what Say is saying is just quickly go to it. Yeah. So Say is saying in some places it is called Elohim. So now that thought Say, I wouldn't agree with you. Okay. I wouldn't agree with you simply because when you look up the text, I once again just double-checked the Greek word. Then it is Angelos. It is not Elohim. So we can't change the original text. We know that angels are subject to us. That much we understood. But the line doesn't say so. How do we now ensure that we bring out the truth from it without changing the original text? So it doesn't say Elohim. It doesn't. So that's where I'm disagreeing with you, Say. Verse 7, Angelos. Again, it simply means Angelos messenger. So messenger would be the translation of that word. So now again, we get stuck because it's saying, from what we can read it says he did him a little lower than the angels. So we are again stuck there. So what is the meaning? Yes, Say you want to go again? Again, I'm very, very open. But I just wanted to bring more perspective. So the Hebrew writer is actually quoting from Psalm 8, the book of Psalm 8. I actually have my NIV version here. It's actually a footnote. So if you check NIV verse, Psalm 8 verse 5, it says that you have made them a little lower. That's the Psalm is talking, David talking about men, a little lower. Now it says angel, but I see a footnote there. And I go down to my footnote. It says actually, Dan God. So I don't know if there was a mistranslation when it was coming into the Greek version. I don't know. But the original text from which the Hebrew writer is actually quoting from is Psalm 8, this particular. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. So it and verse 5 there, I'm reading it from the NKJV for thou has made him a little lower than the angels. Again, you know, I get the word angels over here and has crowned him with glory and honor. Okay. So anyway, so I know this was a little bit of a rabbit trail going off track just to help us also try and interpret what we are studying. Christopher, you have something different to say. We won't take too much time on this. Yeah, go ahead Christopher. I was just thinking that, you know, when Jesus was on the earth, he was fully God and he was also fully man. And, you know, this, this aspect of fully man and this sort of dichotomy of being fully God and fully man, that fully man aspect I think would have been, you know, under the under the angels and just just thinking that that's possible. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Thank you for sharing your thought there. Again, okay, I'm not trying to negate your points, but I'm trying to answer from what I know. And we've seen that, you know, angels are supposed to worship Jesus. So again, that thought of Jesus being below angels. I don't know if we can go with that thought, even though there's that whole dichotomy of Jesus being fully man and fully God. So anyway, good. You know, we're all thinking together. Wonderful. We're on a journey. Eshri Kumar, do you want to add to it? Pastor, I was checking the original Hebrew word, which is used there in the Psalm 8. It is showing the Elohim only. Elohim. Okay. Yeah, Elohim. Thank you. Okay. Oh, is it? I'm also looking at it. Yeah, I just wanted to clarify. Yeah, I guess I was checking in the Hebrew and Greek one. So the word which is used there is Elohim, rulers, judges, divine angels. These are also the meaning there, but God's is also the meaning. Elohim is the word which is in the Hebrew text it is used. Thank you, Pastor. That's what I just wanted to clarify. Sure, sure. Thank you. So, okay, fine, fine. So I think I kind of didn't look it up fully. There were two words there. So yeah, thank you for clarifying. It says Elohim. Okay. You made him a little lower than Elohim. Now Elohim, as the Shikomar pointed out in the meanings that are given there, it does include God and over here, they have also written angels. Okay. Gods. So referring to heavenly beings. Anyway, so we'll just come back to the point here. So when we see something which is contradictory to the truth that we already know, you made him a little lower than the angels. Whereas we have established a clear cut that God has given man dominion and that angels are ministering spirits. The way we will interpret this is, made up a little lower simply means that man lacks heavenly glory. Okay. Remember, Philippians 2, even Philippians 2, we read about Jesus, God becoming a man. What did God do? He left behind his heavenly glory. But did his deity change in any way? No, it did not. Okay. So when we read here that he was made a little lower than the angels, the actual interpretation is that the heavenly beings, we saw that angel loss, Elohim, heavenly beings have a certain glory, but man on earth lacks that glory. It's just that. So we're not saying anything about man comes under angels and this and that. That's how we would really interpret it. So I hope it helps. And I just thought if we have this discussion, it will be helpful in general when we are interpreting scripture. So, yeah. So it simply means that man lacks heavenly glory. Okay. But we still have dominion. We still have authority. Now, moving on to verses 9 and 10 here, could somebody kindly read verses 9 and 10? When we see him who for a little while was made lower than the angels, namely Jesus crowned with glory and honor because of his suffering and death. So that by the grace of God, he might taste death for everyone. For it was fitting that he for whom and by whom all things exist and bringing many sense to glory should make the founder of their salvation perfect through suffering. Yes. Thank you, Asha, for reading that. So now, verse 9, if verse 8, the earlier verses are not clear. Verse 9 can be very complicated because now talking about Jesus, it says, but we see Jesus. What did he say earlier? He said the angels, God spoke to Jesus and said, you are the Sargoma. We got it. And then the angels were supposed to worship Jesus. Verse 9 here, he's saying, but we see Jesus who was made a little lower than the angels. Okay? So thank God we clarified it. What does it mean? How can Jesus now? It's literally like, what are you saying, you know, to the author? We can ask him, what are you saying? You just said Jesus is greater than the angels. And now you're saying Jesus made a little lower than the angels. That simply means he left behind his heavenly glory while he was here on the earth. Okay? Now, if we don't get that point, these passages can create a lot of confusion among believers. You know, we flipped to Hebrews 2 verse 9, see what the Bible says. He was made lower than the angels. But you have to interpret it correctly. Okay? So we got the point now. So he left behind his heavenly glory is what we understand here. Why did that happen? Why did he become a man? So verse 9 says, for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor that he by the grace of God might taste death for everyone. So when we study Christology, we learn about something called a substitution. That was a practice that was instructed to the, you know, in the temple, which is you bring an animal to substitute, to substitute the person. And that animal is, you know, they call it the sacrifice or whatever, whatever you want to call it. So Jesus became a man to do that for us, to become that Lamb of God. And in our place, he died for us. And see how beautiful it says, for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor that he by the grace of God might taste death for everyone. So someone had to die. But after that we know, you know, there's this promise of resurrection that we have because Jesus died and he rose from the dead. And now we have the promise of resurrection. But he was willing to take that path, die, taste death for everyone. That is the reason he left behind his heavenly glory. Or in other words, God became a man. It's a mind-boggling thought to think. Wow, you know, we always think of that. It's easier to upgrade. You know, life is better when you upgrade. You get a better phone or, you know, you get a better option to commute. We are so happy. Oh, upgrade. But why downgrade? Unless there is a strong motivation. And so Jesus was willing. He said, okay, leave heaven, come to earth, not so comfortable, no problem. But somebody, I have to do it. Okay, I have to do it. Taste death for everyone. And he loved us so much that, you know, as the writer is repeating to these believers, think about what you have that God did not give this ministry to some heavenly beings. He gave it to his own son and his son was willing, you see, to taste death for everyone and to suffer for strength. For it was fitting for him, for whom are all things and by whom are all things in bringing many sons to glory to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings made a little lower than the angels. So you see again humanity of Jesus, that's the emphasis made a little lower than the angels, God became a man. That's the understanding. What else is he saying here? He's saying he's trying to show us heavenly glory and his position of authority, his position of Lordship for whom are all things as Colossians tells us. Everything that was created was created for him. Everything is subject to him, the book of Colossians teaches us that and again the writer here is saying think of this again and again. God, who is above all? For whom are all things and by whom are all things? But he suffered. He suffered, he chose to suffer. He chose to taste death. He tasted death for everyone and over here what does he say? In bringing many sons to glory. So what was God's intention? He wanted to redeem us. We talk about redemption. Redemption is pay the ransom or a prize to bring somebody out of slavery or imprisonment or some sort of a bondage. What did Jesus do? He became the ransom. He paid the ransom to deliver us, to redeem us. So in bringing many sons to glory and see how God looks at us. God created man in his own image, many sons. You see, the way God is actually viewing us is he's looking at us as his children to bring many sons to glory to make the captain of their salvation perfect. So who is Jesus here? He's the one who went ahead for us and usually we use those terms for the leader, captain who leads a fleet. So these terms are used. So he went ahead and suffered for us so that he can taste death for everyone and he can bring salvation to us and he became perfect through sufferings. Now we might ask the question, wasn't Jesus already perfect? But you see, in humanity, this is why we say he was fully God. Many things could have been given to him on a platter and in those times, especially in the early church there was a confusion and that confusion was maybe Jesus was fully dating. There was no trace of humanness in him which is why some people, some philosophies said oh, it was easy for him to die, it was easy for him to go through his trial and for him to resurrect because he was never a man. He was, you know, all God, 100% God. But the writer of the Hebrews is trying to reiterate the fact that Jesus is fully man, he's fully God and when we read here about perfection, do you recall, you know, I think Luke he writes, Jesus, he grew in this, he grew in stature, he grew in favor with man and God. So there were all these processes which were part of being a human being that he never short circuited. He also went through it and the sufferings, right? So from sufferings, obedience, we will see it later, even obedience, there is a certain perfection which is attributed when someone runs the course, you know, someone experiences the things that have been laid out for them and in this case, Jesus, you know, obediently he walked through that journey. He never said, hey, why should I? If he wanted, he could have, but we are seeing a perfection in that. It's not to say that he was, or not already living a seamless life and all. No, no, that's not the point. The point is that willingness to experience and grow as a human being and those sufferings which were laid up for him, willingly he walked through all of that and which is why we'll see later, he became that perfect sacrifice for us, okay? And this is the beauty of the humanity of Jesus, willingly he let go, willingly he himself came, willingly he tasted death, willingly he suffered, willingly he became that substitution price for us and, you know, he became, here it says, the captain of our salvation, okay? So, let us put our eyes on the Lord Jesus, let us put our focus on him, the reality of what one is going through. Yes, that exists, but, you know, we want to give our attention to who Jesus is and what he has done for us, okay? So, that is what we learn from these scriptures, okay? Yes, so I think we have about four minutes. So, let's just pause for a bit. Okay, Divya has something to say. Yes, Divya, please go ahead. Thank you, Pastor, didn't mean to interrupt you. No, no worries, yeah. Yeah, I just had a question. When it says Jesus, a renowned star, Jesus, like the heavenly glory, right? His heavenly glory was, he put it away so that he could come down as a, as fully man and fully God. So, can you elaborate on, like, when it's, when we, what it means to, you know, give away that heavenly glory? Thank you. Okay, sure. Thank you, Divya. So, the way they understand this is, Jesus had a position and a majesty in heaven, which he left behind, I'm using the term left behind, and he came to earth. So, when he came to earth, he did not move in those powers, Divya, because, you know, we've studied how, as a man, he needed the empowering of the Holy Spirit. When Luke 14, we see, he came back after his 40 years of fasting with power. So, he came back with the power of the Spirit. He needed the power of the Spirit to do the works of the Father. So, that's how he moved here upon the earth, not using that heavenly power, which he had. Now, having said that, we also know that he was fully God. So, there were instances where we see the deity of Christ coming to the, for example, the transfiguration, when he was transformed. How could that happen? Because he was still fully God. He never was, that didn't change. He was still fully God. So, you know, it's sort of mysterious. So, he left behind his glory. He came here. He worked with the power of the Holy Spirit. But now that he is back in heaven, after his earthly ministry, he has his heavenly glory back. So, he didn't give it away. So, we won't use terms like he gave it away or he handed it over. No, he left behind. And now, he has it back again, because he's up in heaven, sitting at the right hand of the Father. So, I hope that helps, Sivya, to understand. Yeah, basically, I was trying to... Yeah, it helps, Pastor. Like, somewhere in some course, I don't remember properly, whether it was in Christology or somewhere we have learned like the omnipotence, omnipresence, omniprescience, like those attributes. Yes. Like, where left behind? Is it right to say that? Sure. No, definitely. So, when I say heavenly glory, many of these things are a part of it, the attributes of God. Which, obviously, he wasn't... he wasn't all knowing. He needed the Holy Spirit. And he wasn't omnipotent. You could see that, because if he was omnipotent, why would he ask a man to move on? Oh, I'm so thirsty. I'm so tired. Please give me some water to drink. So, he left behind those attributes. But of course, once the early ministry was done, he's taken it back. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much. Sure. Thank you. That really helps to understand better for the entire class. And Kennedy is asking, how could it be said that the author of Salvation was made perfect to suffering? So, that's what Kennedy... I'm not saying that as deity, he needed any more perfection. But it's emphasizing on the obedience part of living the full course of his life, the way it was purposed. And there is a beauty in that. Earlier we saw how by inheritance, he's the Son of God. But we also noticed that his obedience, his response to God was equally great, which also makes him worthy of the honour and the worship which are due to him. I hope it makes some sense. Okay, so Kennedy do let us know either on chat or maybe by muting the mic. But we'll go in for a break right now and let's come back after 10 minutes. So, 10-01 is when we will be back. See you also. Thank you.