 motion to go into executive session to discuss personnel matters. Someone in the group? Is there a second? All in favor, please say aye. Aye. OK, so I don't know if you can. Comments for agendas? I'm not on the agenda. No, you're none. Additions or changes to the agenda? All righty. So we're a little, actually, no, we're a little kind of scheduled. So why don't we take, if there's no objection, do Alfred first. And then we can, this clip was going to zoom in to talk about the informational meeting. Just a quick debrief. So since you're here, Alfred, first off, thanks for coming. And have you had any more interest in the positions? No, I've not heard anything. OK, you might have to move a little closer. So when she's doing the notes, she can hear what you're saying. I haven't heard from anybody who was told that nothing has been asked if we are still advertising. We have advertised in Sir Marcus, the whole front porch forum network. Can't remember how to do it. You might have not in seven days. I know, and we did it on the VLCTs website thing, where they have that jog opens. I see it on the front porch forum early on, but I haven't seen it there lately. Yeah, it sort of makes the riles, because it does it like in every town in Vermont. It's no harm, though, to do it again. No, no, no, it just costs money. Front porch forums. Yeah, if you do a big ad like that, it does cost money. But we can certainly do it again. Yeah, I just haven't noticed it in the last week or so, a couple weeks, showing interest with his restrictions. It's just not going to work. Yeah, yeah. This was the guy who didn't have a CDL? Well, he had a CDL, but he had a prescription on it. Because he can only type on add-ups. Man, he can only type on add-ups. What's that? Nothing, I just haven't heard nothing from him. Oh, OK, would you follow back up with him? He just hasn't had no show of no interest in me. Would you follow back up with him after we met? Yeah. OK. Yeah, but he didn't reply. I think he's just, I mean, when I interviewed him, he seemed a little bit on the fence, whether he wanted to change anyways. But this is his hometown, so I think that's what sort of was pulling him. But with the restriction and the extra work, he's going to have to do some work to get on board with us is, I think, more than he wanted to do. Yeah, and also, I also advertised the roadtrip position and the treasure position. There's plain field people. There's Chamber of Commerce. There's a site called Vermont Roads. I blasted it out to every Facebook page I could think of. So I'll do that again, too. Yeah, and I've been sort of, when I run into somebody that I think might be on auction, I go out there to talk to a gal today that was actually interested, but she has to work where she is until June. But even if she was not there until June, really, that's not that far away. No, I know. And that's why I told her, well, just keep in touch. She's got a class C license, which has to be transferred, please. Yeah. $40,000, that's $40,000. C, no, C is for, like, a school bus, like a mini school bus. So she would have to upgrade to B. Yeah. Do you think, and is that going to be too hard to do? No, it's just she has to take the written test, still test, and write and stuff. How many do you think, do you particularly like her? You think she'd be good? I don't know a lot about her, so I can't really form an accurate opinion that way. I mean, I think she works in an automotive environment, so she deals with trucks and cars and stuff. So, you know, I think she would have that asset for us. Do you think it's worth, I mean, just throwing this out, OK, guys? Do you think it's worth saying to her, look, we don't consider the fact that you couldn't come until June to be a reason not to interview you? So would you please apply? And would you please apply and let us interview you or something like that? Let me formally interview you. Right. Well, I did that. I mean, I told her that, you know, come talk to me. Let's, you know, pursue this. And so I gave her my phone numbers. And that's all I can do at this point. No, no, OK. She wants to take the next step. Yeah, OK. It's in her course. I just want to say I don't consider, personally, I don't consider June a problem to know where we are. Right. Because by the time she applies, you interview her, then you tell her you've got to go do all this stuff by the time it's shit. I mean, it'd be April, May, any way of the process. So we do monitor that. Yeah, so no, the June thing didn't affect me in a bit. Because we have two positions to fill. Right. Certainly, by June, we could, you know, we could, if she pursues it and wants to, you know, pursue upgrading her license, I would even help her do that. Right. She has time to do that, too. She has time to do that, right. Well, then I would suggest that you call her and set up an interview. Yeah, so no, I think I can all a little bit of time go, and I'll call her and just open up the conversations I've got. Yeah. Alfred, when people are expressing interest, what does that look like? Do you get an email? Do you get a phone call? It's different every time. The person from the state was a phone call. And then it turned into emails. This one was just, I bumped into her. And just in a conversation, they said, oh, hey. I got two positions open. Would you be interested? So it's different for every single one. Yeah, so you were just like, buying parts or something, filling the gas tank? Yeah. Yeah. OK. OK, this actually gets me in the right way. So another thing on that is we still don't have an actual application to give to people. I know we've had one years ago about Sandra's thought that it needed to be updated and changed. And that's where it stopped. I haven't crossed that bridge yet. Well, I can check with East Montpelier. I mean, most people do a resume. No, right. But nowadays, people are asking for an application. For an application, for information, what we're going to ask from that. So we should have something to give them. Yeah. I don't think we're going to have to reinvent the wheel. Let me see what I can find. Yeah, there's not going to be one that's suitable. And maybe ours is fine. It just needs a little bit of a tweak in there. I'll have to ask Sandra for it. She has Jim that, too. Just to see if there's anything. Well, we don't want to. I don't think we need Jim. I trust that he's doing some research, too. OK. Well, that's good. I mean, if she's interested, that'd be great. Yeah. Is she local? Well, at this, lives in Woodbury. Oh, OK. At this point, I mean, I'm, if it's a warm body, I'm going to pursue it. Yeah, that's right. Truck inspections. Yep. So one of the trucks is inspected, the one that, the newest one. Not the spare. What's that? There was one truck, and then there was the spare. There was two trucks that was out of inspection. Right. One of them, I just didn't get time to get it in. Yeah. And the reason for that, I don't have time to spend on this, but I've had a lot of breakdowns this winter. So one truck was down. Now I don't have the spare. It requires four trucks. So one truck's been broke down. I can't take another truck out for a week or so to go get it inspected. So it just sort of got away. That's the newest truck. I know it's safe. I mean, I know it wasn't a problem. So I kind of just didn't make the time to get that done. The other truck is the spare truck that we are selling any day now. Yeah, yeah. And that's the one that we were told last year when we got it inspected that it was going to take a lot of money to get a sticker on it again. So me thinking that it was going to be sold in November, I didn't want to put money into it to put a fresh sticker on and just fence out. So now can we just run the trucks that have inspection stickers? Well, I'm hoping to get the CV international back tomorrow. Oh, OK. And then, yes, that truck that doesn't have a sticker will sit in the garage. Yeah, OK. But it's just, like I said, when trucks are broke down, I still have to use what I have when they're asleep. So obviously, we just want to avoid that. That puts driver's licenses. I mean, drivers get dinged if they are driving a truck that's out of inspection and they get tagged. Yeah, they're CDO. Well, and not to mention that it's not a moving violation. All right, but it's still. So we need to get fine. But it's something where it happened. My last, but my concern was the insurance. The insurance and the public appearance, something happened on our watch to a truck that we knew was inspected when the whole point of inspection was in safety. Right. That's a bad line up of facts. So it sounds like we're up there to get that truck in tomorrow. We're up there. Right. After this, hopefully after tomorrow, I'll have the CV back. And this truck that doesn't have a sticker can go back in the shed and sit there until it's sold. That's been my plan the whole time. But that's, like I said, when one truck goes down. And it's still got four routes to fill. So I kept it in action. I don't think that can be our plan, frankly. It's not a plan. It's just something that just. If it's the backup, and a truck goes down, and you say, oh, well, we've got the unexpected one. Let's do it. He's talking about the one that he's not talking about despair. He's talking about the newer one. Yeah, if we have to put a huge amount of money into that, they're just to get it where they're waiting for it. I think what we're saying, and we just need to do a better job of maybe we have to get it inspected in October instead of waiting for December so that we're not into this mess. I think what he's saying on this one was we were planning to get rid of this truck. This truck, right. This is what they're not letting go. I'm talking about the newer one. Yeah, OK. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the newer one was December, was the new one December. Right. And yes, I will take that on notice. I kind of sort of didn't make the time to get it in. These trucks have to go to Burlington to get inspected. If there's anything wrong with them, they get served. It's warranty work. That's why it has to go to Burlington. But so let me just be really clear. The spare that we're going to sell any minute, we haven't been using. We've been using it, yes, because of the CV being out of commission. OK. So I'm going to go back on just, you know, it's really what Denise just said. But even though we were planning to sell it, and even though we didn't put any money into it because we're going to sell it, and we didn't even want to inspect it because we're going to sell it, the fact is when we needed it, we pulled it out and used it. All of which is, we're going to pull it out and use it, then we should be inspecting it. That's my point. OK. Well, the only reason I did that was to save the town money. Yeah, that's a good thing. And like I said, twice now, the truck was supposed to be sold in November. Right. But because of other supply chain issues going on, we still don't have the truck because it's been on the place. When? What's that? When? When do you think? I'm here any day. Last week ago, I talked to the foreman when we were buying the truck from him. He said it would be end of next week or first of this week. I talked to him today, and he said the company is not returning to his fault. So the truck has got to be, his new truck, has got to be all the way. It's just a matter of getting here. So I expect that transaction to happen any time, any day now. OK. How long did we want it to be financially unwise? And pour money down a radical? How long would that take, do you think? To get that truck ready for inspection? Yeah, I would be taking out the action for a few weeks. I bet it's three weeks. So what we really want to do, we really want to. So we're going to get the truck in the shop now. Let it all get parked. I mean, that CB International has been three weeks, and now I'm waiting for a brake caliper. You know what I'm saying? It's just, that's a simple thing. It's a very common thing, a brake caliper. And we can't get it waited a week and a half for it. OK, I think Alfred heard us. Yeah, OK. So moving on, I just put this on. This is the municipal roads general permit report that we do every year. And it just needs to be signed. It's in the, oh. There was a bunch of those kind of things in this folder. Let's go ahead and start it for you. OK, well, I don't even see the button where you can do that. You have to pull to the upper right-hand corner and don't take care of it. Recording the progress. OK, thank you. So I would ask that somebody approve the municipal roads general permit report that Toby sent us. I'll make that motion. Second. And then the discussion. This is just a normal course of a reader. Right, it's a product. Yeah, we just have to file it with the state. Right, that's the fee, too, that comes with it. That's not due until. Right, that's not part of this, because I read it. Yeah. All right, all those in favor say aye. Aye. All right, Alfred, do you have anything else for us? If not, we're going to move on. No, I think we're OK. I talked with Sandra some about the check that I'll need for that new truck when it comes. So she's prepared for that. OK. I've got a guy that's, we've already taken a deposit for the old truck. We've got a contract together. He was there today with the remainder of what he owes us. But I told him I couldn't want to cover that. Now, is this a private individual's loan? Yes. Oh, OK. So once that, once our new spare truck comes, it'll be, it should be seamless and it's put right to work. One thing I don't know is if Charlie Boyce is going to want to take it to their shop to look it over in between. The spare. The spare. The one that we're buying between the now owner and us. OK. We put in the contract that would have a fresh inspection sticker on it when we buy it. And you find them under-coded or are you sure you're going to? Well, that will have to be in the spring. Because it's just too cold and we're going to need to use it. OK, so but the spare truck that we have now, that's being sold to somebody. That's right. He's the private contractor that's bought it. OK. Anybody we know? I live in Woodbury, Doug, not that it's Larry. I've got it written down. OK. But he's a logger. I'm just going to use it on his own property. Yeah, OK. All right. Is that it? I think so. I have a visitor today. A visitor? He's stunk. Sort of, but no. No, Mr. Lilly came and visited for a while. Oh, double. I thought you were leading up to tell us a little story. OK. Yeah, so I'm not sure what his issue is, but I didn't like his visit today. You mean he came to the garage? Yes. Well, he came here a month ago. About the stones. About the stones. And I believe he continues to feel that we have changed something. And the stones are, you know, too sharp, puncturing tires. Yeah, I think we mentioned it to Alford, didn't we? Yeah, we had a whole conversation. I think Alford was here. Yeah. I was here. Yeah. We had a whole conversation about it. Saying bicycles. A lot of bicycles on that road. Yeah, because he just bought some kind of motorized bike. Yeah. And he's worried about the tires getting punctured from the stuff we put on the road. Did he mention anything about the... Ballers? Sure. The wooden... The post things being... No, he didn't mention that. Those were knocked down. I didn't hear him mention that. Yeah. Well, I kind of pushed back, but that's the oldest competitor ballers. That's right. And if you look at those posts, if you look at them, if the town truck hit them, they would have been pushed forward. Most of them are not. They're pushed the opposite way of the traveling roadway. I mean, the opposite way that you plow. Right. Look at Alford. I looked at him even this morning. It just looks like a snow throw, you know? Yeah. Yeah. You're right. I didn't see him. So, I mean, I'm not saying that a plow truck didn't hit it. It may have. I mean, I can't get anybody to... Maybe I did. I plowed that road too sometimes. Maybe I did it. But if you look at them, they're aimed the wrong way. They're kind of flown the wrong way if it was one of our trucks. Because we plowed only one way. And if we'd have hit it, it would have gone forward of the plow. Of the plow. But they're not. They're the opposite way. So, if it was another plow truck that, you know, I don't know. I'm not going to make any accusations, but they shouldn't be there. The bottom line is they should not be there to begin with. It's our right away. We have a right to move stone when we need to move snow. And that's the only reason he's putting them there is to be a hassle for us. So, he didn't say anything about that, and I'm glad he didn't. Because that would have escalated things probably. Well, how did it go? How long was he there? He was there when I came back. I had to come to the town office to drop some paper off. And he was there when I got back. So I guess he was talking to the other guys for a while. So I just, I don't exactly know what his problem is, but I had a very uncomfortable feeling with him there. He just, I don't know what his goal is here, but. Well, he said. The heads up, that's all. All right. That's all it is, right? That's what it is. It's information. And that's really, that's all you're doing is making us aware that Doug came and. Had a conversation. Had a conversation. Correct. Okay. Thanks. Yeah, noted. And you're not asking us to do anything about it. No, but I appreciate you letting us know that it happened. No, I mean, it's fine. I mean, I feel like he's got a thorn in the sides of there. And it's going to appear. And you guys need to know about it. Yeah, no, I'm glad you told us. Thank you. So we're not surprised. That's helpful. Yeah. As close as those things are into the road too. It's inevitable. When you pull through there, a plow frame, something's even just the roads. The roads now it's right. Well, you can see that the road is narrowed up. It's so narrow through there. I mean, two cars without a hard time meeting there. Well, and that is the tension is that, you know. I haven't lived in Calis. You know, as long as I have. But that that is exactly the, the, the issue is, you know, Doug lives on a very busy road at the speed of traffic is frustrating. And he brings that up quite often. And I can, I can totally appreciate that. And we don't have time to get into it tonight Sunday agenda. But I do think that we should, we should be thoughtful about how do we calm traffic in those kinds of places? We've talked about different things before and we haven't, we haven't really, we haven't really made any steps forward on it. So if we don't like Doug's solutions, then what, then what can we do? The problem is, is that the road is so straight. Right. And I don't know how you calm traffic other than to make the road curve that generally. We put signs up. We put the tractor ahead signs up. So, you know, on his request, we have set the speed car there during the summer months. It's not there now. It's, it's not, which reminds me. I did get a request for that to be set out. Request for what? Speed car. To be set up. The speed car. But we have a flashing light there by the school. We have almost flashing. No, no. That doesn't do it good up by Lilly's. No, no. This is the mold one. Right. One that's on the road. So can we, so we, so this is a whole other topic for another time. Right. It's not on the agenda. So, right. I know you want to talk about stuff. I can put it on the agenda. Yeah, I think we should. But does it need to be, I mean, I'm, a resident asked me to put a speech sign. Do I, do I have the authority to just put it out where I think it is? The speed car, yeah. Okay. That's the question. Well, but hang on though. Hang on. I agree. Of course you do. However, I don't want to hear in six weeks and, you know, six months. Well, I moved the speed car from Lightning Ridge because the president asked for it over here and you guys told me go ahead and do that. I feel like I don't have a whole picture. So. Well, it's not on Lightning Ridge now. Okay. But is it the one that would go back up on Lightning Ridge on, you know, March and Feet? Well, speed cars move anyway. It may be portable for a reason. You don't keep them. I don't understand what you're asking. My point is going back to traffic calming on Lightning Ridge. We have a citizen who lives on a straight place and if one of our solutions is a speed cart that we generally keep right around where, you know, Tucker Road comes into Lightning Ridge, right? Well, it can go anywhere. I understand that Alfred. My point is when it's not there, it isn't doing this job of calming traffic on Lightning Ridge. Yeah, but it's calming it there. So you're saying it's calming it on another speed. I guess I'm not clear. If it's not on Lightning Ridge, then it's someplace else. Are you wanting to be notified where the speed car is being parked? No, I don't care. I don't care where it is. But if it isn't on Lightning Ridge, it isn't doing a Lightning Ridge job. So I feel like we need, because of any number of factors, Lightning Ridge factors, Lightning Ridge is straight. It may be a little wider depending on your point of view. It's a straight shot down to Route 14. All these things line up for it to be a place where there's a lot of traffic that goes fast. So what it is, if we don't have a permanent speed sign there, then maybe we should. That's really all I'm saying. So your point is to put up one of those flashing speed limit signs, like we have the East Calus Maple Corner, and just leave it there all time. That's a permanent one. Yeah, I thought we had one there. Well, that's exactly it. I thought we did too, and then I said no, we don't. We put in posts. We put in the anchor for one, like the one that's in Maple Corners. Yeah. That we can pick up out of the ground and bring it to Lightning Ridge road. So then why don't we do that for a while? That would actually work. We can. I mean, it's just... What do they cost about $1,800, $1,500? They're like $2,000. Yeah, I know. We're going to have this discussion. I really want to put this on the agenda. It needs to be on the agenda so we can decide do we want to buy it or buy it. I was just asking if I have the authority to move our mobile trailer. Right. And that's a whole different discussion than what this has been getting into. So yes, you have authority to move the mobile cart. Put it by Doug's house so he can see what people are going. Well, yeah. I mean, he hasn't asked for that. So I can put it there after the person has asked for it. Somebody has asked for it on Collar Hill. So Collar Hill, I would put it there first. Okay. Then leave it there for a couple of weeks. Okay. Okay. Thank you. All right. Yeah. Well, we're going to have these kind of more in depth conversations. It really needs to get noticed because Mr. Lillian would probably like to attend. Sure. Absolutely. But I mean, we would like to have this discussion. I mean, we would like to have this discussion. I mean, we would like to have this discussion. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, absolutely. But I mean, we weren't. Yeah. I'm not talking about. Yeah. Got it. Anything else not for? Because we need to move on. No, I guess I'm good. Okay. Great. You said that before you opened up this big can of orange. Well, yeah, it's just I want to make sure that I have the authority to move that part around. Yeah. Yeah. Go for it. Okay. Thank you. All right. We went and skipped around on the agenda. We held off on the public informational meeting. Oh, there you are. So I just wanted to have a, if it's possible to have a quick conversation about the informational meeting and to thank you so very much for pulling it all together and having go off so smoothly. Very much appreciated. Thanks also to Jamie and John. John, they did a great job handling things at the. The town hall and. I think. Really improved the sound quality for people. Yep. Yep. Lovely fabric backgrounds to boot. So it's a win-win. Yep. On me from your perspective. I mean, I was on zoom and I thought it went well. You know, you could hear. When people, well, there wasn't very many people from the public, but I'm glad we did it hybrid to make sure we have that opportunity available. Any observations or thoughts from your perspective? It. There were times where it was a little. Harry trying to do air traffic control. And keep up with, you know, what was going on, making sure I was putting the proper slides on the meeting while I was, you know, trying to. Coordinate people coming in on and answer questions or things like that. But overall, I thought it went pretty smoothly. That would be my recommendation. In the future, if we're doing this again, you definitely want to have a secondary person. You know, on the ground at wherever you at the town hall or the school or wherever. Crowds are gathering. And then someone else who's available. Outside of that venue on zoom to kind of help coordinate other activities going on. And perhaps one other person who could be available to. Mainly, mainly just has the responsibility for putting the proper slides on the screen. All good observations. Hopefully next year we can meet in person. Exactly. But we thought that last year. All right. All good points. And another thing to. Keep in mind. Not necessarily just as for in with regards to the town meeting, but. If going forward. The hybrid meetings will continue to be a reality. At some point. Looking at the layout there. In the town hall. Where people sit. And views of the overhead screens. You could conceivably add a second monitor so that there's monitors. Basically facing each other that people could be facing either direction. In the building and be able to see the monitors. All right. Keep in mind. Anybody else? No. All right. Thank you. Thanks again. You're welcome. Thank you all for your efforts. And everyone, you know, we pulled together. We pulled it off again. Yeah. Right. Amazing. Yep. All right. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Take care all. You too. Bye bye. And you must be. I'm a third. Yeah. Thank you. Can you tell me how to spell your name? Eva. Last name. Z. V. Bread. A. R. E. T. Yeah. And that would help name your name. You'll be the title. Okay. Okay. And Olivia is. No imperialist focus. Yeah. What's your role. Yep. нашего設 demands. There for. Meese tobacco. And what's your role. I'm a specialist at Central Vermont Medical Center. I work for CBMC, and then the coalition, CBPC, is back by the hospital. Yeah, I read the document that Olivia sent. Okay, good. So, ladies, I understand you're looking to do a public informational meeting. And is that, would that be joint with the school? Are we talking about two separate meetings? Yeah. So, I think there's been some back and forth confusion about what exactly we're trying to do. We're hosting a series of community forums throughout Central Vermont. And so we've already held one in for the Northfield area. We have one next week for Montpelier-Roxbury. And then the next one will be in April for the school district that Calis is a part of. So they're organized by Supervisor of the Union. And then we'll have one for Nevada River and so on. My question is I kept going back to when Olivia was trying to schedule this. Why do you need, if it's going to be done to the school board, what is it you want from the select board? So, we just want you to know about it. We don't need help setting it up. We have it under control. We want you to know that it's happening as the leadership of the town. Make sure that it gets out to the citizens. However, it's best for cows to do that. So our first step is almost always we go and make sure that the select board knows who we are. Knows that we're legitimate and that we have the backing of the hospital behind us. And it's not necessarily for the schools. It's just that's how we're organizing it for the regions. That's just the easiest way. If you're sending out information, you might be clear on explaining that because no matter how many times I ask, it really wasn't clear. I think it's a really great project. I commend you for what you're doing. I think it's really needed. Unfortunately, there's a lot of people with some problems out there. So getting the message out, we can certainly, if you have something you want us to post on the front porch forum, we can certainly do that if you have a blurb about when it is and what it is. Actually, I would resist that coming from the select board. I mean, it's a great initiative. Well, they can do it though. Exactly. You don't need, frankly, you don't need our permission. No. Great that you're doing it. Thanks for coming. I think they just want our support. Yeah. Yeah. And you've got it. But I would suggest posting it on the front porch forum. And the school board is aware of it, so I'm sure they'll get word out too. I just think getting, you know, doing a big media thing with front porch forum, posted on Facebook pages, you know, things like that. How has attendance been so far? Attendance has been really good. The one that we held for the Northfield region had almost 40 people in attendance. Yeah. There was a good, and it was on Zoom because of Promise reasons. Is that it going to do this one? Well, the one in Vermont failure is going to be on Zoom. And then we haven't decided yet whether this next one will be for this district will be hybrid or not. We're still deciding. Things are so tentative. I know. And touch and go. But yeah, it's been positive response on Zoom so far. And some interesting initiatives have come out of them so far. In Northfield, you know, we went to the select board, which it sounds like we didn't need to do necessarily here, but other places do appreciate it. That's like that. We do appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah. I hear you. So one of the select board members is also an herbalist. So she's partnering with us and we're helping her establish an after school or summer enrichment opportunity for students. And we're able to help her get grant funding and that kind of thing. So that's something that we're setting up. The school guidance counselor from Northfield, we were able to get her connected with resources for teens who are vaping. So getting, you know, starting this dialogue and having these conversations has been really helpful. No, I think just, you know, building those relationships, branching out, you know, it's always interesting, you know, find people that, oh, I didn't know you weren't just in that. You know, word of mouth is such a huge piece of Vermont. Oh, yeah. You know, getting that word out. I think it's great. Yeah. And I think it's a wonderful project. Because you guys, it's just such a big help. You know, if there's something for you to come back and talk, let me know. Sure. Yeah. I think we're also sort of extending the invitation to you all. So if you would like to come to this forum, we would really, you know, depending on when I know what it is. Right. So it's April 8th in the evening. They're generally 6 to 7.30. So what day of week is it? I'm sorry. It's actually, it's April 5th, which is a Tuesday night. Okay. April 5th. Sorry. So, you know, we invite everybody that's involved in it, how, you know, and I think that it's important for citizens to see the leadership and you might, you know, you might reach out through the health department to all the health officers in all the towns. That would be a really, yeah, giving the health department. Yeah. They're actually a really strong partner of ours and they present at the forum. Because they have a list of all the health officers in all the towns and they could make sure to get word out to them through the health department, which might really encourage them to attend. Okay. Sure. That's just an idea. Yeah. It's time to follow up, you know, the Zoom link and the link to our Facebook event if you all are interested. Yeah. Okay. Great. Thank you. Thank you so much. Okay. Thanks. Thank you. You're welcome. Absolutely. I hope you have some really good results. Really needed. Yeah. I'm glad for that. Hopefully we can start some conversations. That's at the school or is it at the school? Yeah. We'll decide soon whether or not it's going to be hybrid in person. I mean, it'll either be hybrid or virtual. I think it's important to include that, always include that option now with people, especially for transportation and childcare and that kind of thing. Right. Right. So if it is in person, we'll have to find a, you know, a good location. But U32 has expressed interest in helping us out. Yeah. Good. Yeah. And there's a huge room there for that. Yeah. I'm curious. Great for that. Definitely. Great for more. All right. Well, thank you so much. Okay. Great. Thanks everyone. Thank you. I just wanted to check in. I see there's a Mr. Strowbridge on Zoom. Mr. Strowbridge, are you there? Mr. Strowbridge, are you there? Could you please speak if you can hear me? I know I can see now that you're not muted. Are you there? Would you please say hello? There you are. Okay. I just wanted to check in and see if there was something that you wanted to talk to the board about. I can't hear you. We can't hear you. You must be muted. No. It doesn't show he's muted. If you have something you want to talk to us about and we can't hear you. How's that? Well, that's better. Is that better? Yes. Can we help you with something? Mr. Strowbridge, I'm just looking at your agenda and I see that you're going to be talking about the Alice Bruce Trail, I guess later on in this meeting. No. It's just we, I just put that on there. The board member that's been involved as the lead person on this isn't here tonight. So it's likely there's nothing that we're going to do. We're just keeping our eye on it and staying updated. No, that's all right. I'm on the slide board here in Worcester and I'm just curious to see what was going on. Well, good for you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. That's it. You've got enough on your plate tonight. I'll leave you alone if you're not going to be talking about that tonight. Yeah. You too. Thank you. Thank you. Good night. Okay. Next up. Mark. Curtis Pond. Okay. So, guys, last time you authorized the sending of a letter of interest. I sent it and I, in the cover, I asked Tom Berry. He's the staff person who's very experienced. Is this something? I mean, the whole point of the letter of interest is, is it worth pursuing? Tom said, yes, it is worth pursuing. I also asked him, well, we're also going to send in a request letter to the agency that may be the agency that your, if you decide to do a congressionally directed spending request that would be to that agency. Is that redundant? Should we not do it? I know it is not redundant. Do it because if we decide to do it, then you know they have to do it. It's just a question of going, jumping through the hoops. So I would like to go ahead and just submit the required forms. One of them is a budget. And all I did on the budget, I kept it really simple. I said estimated cost of the dam $500,000. I said that a hundred thousand of it would be raised through philanthropy and 400 through this request. I didn't put the town down for contributing anything. In the cover letter, I would probably say options include, you know, if we have to do an assessment district, we would do it, et cetera. But I didn't want to pre-commit the town to anything. The one thing that's a little weird is I have, and you put in your folders, a blank version of the form I have to fill out. And it's very simple. There it is right there on the side. It's very simple, but I can't fill it out and show it to you. You have to fill it online and push send, and they don't let you necessarily have copies. So I'll just use all the language that I've put in the letters. The only thing that's a little different, there's two or three things I want to alert you to. One is, if you scroll down to section two, you see a congressionally directed spending request is not Lehi getting to invent a new program. It's just saying if there's an existing program, he's directing somebody to spend it. So they want to know who. Well, they actually know more than we do. And what I will do is check this watershed prevention operations box. And they know that. And if we can find something else for you, we will. Okay. Then, if you scroll down much further past all those check marks, it asks past funding history. I can do all of that. It's all very straightforward. And the name of the organization. The point, there's two... This is free. You should hear this. There's two... What about the rest of us? It's all straightforward. Don't do that. You just say it's not any special... Yeah. Any special attention? Yeah, special attention to this. Point of contact. That's line two, three, four, blah, blah, blah. Then it says if you scroll down further, head of organization. Okay. So what I was going to do is put myself down as head of contact. Because in the letter of interest that I would repeat it, I would say, I'm on select board. I have recused myself from this. The select board has authorized me to be the point of contact. In terms of head of the organization, I was just going to put the board chair. But I wait your instructions on me. So what I would hope is you would just give me authority to file the stamp thing. When does it have to be filed? On the 11th. On March? Yeah. So I would hope you would give me authority to just file it. If I can, after... See, the thing is to be honest, I've been through these now. Some of these federal forms you fill in online, you can then print. Others of them. You can't print them. There you go. No. What you have to do is you have to take all the... And I can't fill this out and print it. It won't let me. It won't let me. Right. So I don't know. Mark, my question for you is, if you were not on the select board, and you were doing this, and you were, you know... Private citizen. Private citizen. Which I am in this respect. Right. Which makes me wonder, why are we talking about it here? Because I'm informing you delegated to me as a private citizen. Right. As a point of contact. And I'm testifying before you right now. Okay. As a private citizen informing you of the form that I would like to submit. And I do think you should give me permission to do it. So... I mean, or not. Well, so I think that if this is all private citizen, and you're just keeping us informed, I would like to be slightly less informed, considering that you're a member of the... Yeah, but I'm submitting it on behalf of the town. And the entity is the... or name of the organization is the town. Because the money would come to the town. And the money would come to the town. Right. Okay. On behalf of... I'm just here. You delegated to me as your agent. And we listed Joan and I as... Yeah. Now if you want, there's no problem with me listing them, John and her as the points of contact. I do that. I'm just trying to see six months down the road when maybe we got some money, maybe we didn't. Yeah. Maybe we got some money and not enough. And now the town's kind of halfway in. And then wait a minute, when were we really arms length and asking ourselves, do we want to be involved in this? I mean, that's... Well, I think it's... So as your question and what I was just going to ask is, I think America said right from the beginning, this doesn't commit us to anything. Even if they give us the money, we can say, look, you know what? It's too much hassle, too much paperwork. They can't give us the money. They would direct the Watership Protection Program to process us. Mr. Caden, could you turn off your mic, please? He may be here for the same issue. I think he is, but I want to get through this. Yes. They would direct us to apply to them and direct them. No, they wouldn't direct us to apply to them. They would direct them if and when we apply to process it. So if we didn't want to apply, we wouldn't. And when you say we... Which would probably be sometime next year. Is it still the town or is it Curtis Pond Dam Association? Oh, it's the town. The town. So where does the Curtis Pond Dam Association fit into this picture? They're listed as... I would list them as an entity that is raising money. This is a joint... This is a project and there's an MOU and this is a project and they're raising money. Yes, we did do an MOU. So to me the reason... And I'm sorry to keep parking on this, you guys. But the reason that we appointed John and Denise as our liaison is so that we could be hearing about this from John and Denise. And that would make me more comfortable that we're keeping that... That you're not sitting at the table. You are an arms length citizen. Denise is bringing to us. It's the Curtis Pond Association is doing this. Then ask John, then ask Mark to present what's going on. So maybe it makes more sense then to list us as the contact. And that keeps it a clear line of authority, right? Well, the line of authority and the line of deniability that the town is that when I'm sitting here I am not being influenced by my friend Mark and we're not just being all... I think that's great. I'm sure it will work, absolutely. I mean, I could... If you want to walk me through it, I can submit it. It's easy. We'll work on that. That's what we did on ECCT. As you know that I did the work. Denise was no... Neither of you was anywhere near us. Liz helping me do the... Right. Do some things. So that's... And I think that those kinds of disciplines that we teach ourselves in practice will make it so much easier if somebody wants to take this part with them and as part of things come along that we train ourselves. Okay. So I'll prepare it. Denise will submit it. I'm going to make John and Denise the points of contact. Okay. I think that's great. Yeah. And you're merely staff. Right. He's from the... He's advisory. Yeah, I'm representing the committee. By the way, the committee... I'm the committee they've sent. If you get the email SEM for a time, you and John can meet with the committee. I checked my email this afternoon and I didn't see anything, but it's probably there now. It's been... It's a while back. It's way down on the page. Oh, no. I'm interested. Okay. All right. I'm sorry. I usually try to be better about emails and respond. So somebody knows... If somebody goes down beyond the page, it's sort of like... Yeah. So I see Marge is here. Hi, Marge. We already talked about the dam. Denise says she didn't get the email to Marge, so let's resend it. Okay. Oh, and we do have the cell tower on the agenda, but I just heard you say when it did. Yeah, I mean, that was kind of John's thing. And he asked me to keep it on as reoccurring, so I did. Can we just move to continue that? Well, it's going to be on every agenda, just in case. Is Marge going to talk? I don't know. Marge, you're muted. Can you hear us? Do you want to talk, Marge? They've authorized Denise and John to move ahead. Marge, are you there? Oh, this is what I hate about Zoom. You know what it is. Hey, can you hear me now? Yeah. Marge, did you... Were you here for the action on this item? I don't understand it. Yeah. Yeah. Marge, we approve moving forward with the submittal of the congressionally directed spending request application. And Marge can fill you in on a phone call or something. All right. All right. Thank you. Have a good evening. Yeah. Thanks for your show. Thanks for Zooming. Yeah. Enjoy your drink. Bye-bye. Doesn't everybody? I love the curated by David Sheets. Is that somebody's idea of...? That was John's idea of a joke. But this is really nice flannel material. Did you feel it? It's really nice... I could tell it's flannel by the... by the selvage. Yeah. Oh, my God. Anyway. Anyways, it was the cheapest you could find. So let's move on. Mr. Cating. Yeah, I think you're here for the same reason that a Roger or Robert... Roger Strohbridge was here because we have on the agenda that we're going to talk about the cell tower. And that is just going to be on our agenda as a reoccurring item. The select board member that was lead person on this is not here tonight. So we're not going to talk about anything. Just so you know. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for hanging out with the government. Thanks for Zooming. Okay. Gosh, guys. We might actually get out of here early tonight. I looked at the minutes from whatever the last day was. Are we done with... Okay. A couple things I already talked to you about having Grace come from ARPA just to get us started. Mm-hmm. And I will put that document that I'd really like you to all to read. I'll make sure it's in that ARPA folder. Thank you. Okay. An ARPA folder. It's in the Google Doc. I'll have to show you. I don't know. I'll call you tomorrow. Okay. I'll try to read it. The other thing I wanted to talk about, and this is on Sharon and I, we were tasked with working on the personnel policy. I called Sharon and said, can you take the lead and then you and I can meet? Well, they're so busy. And I said I would. And you said you would. And then I did the same thing you did. And then it just got busy. So my suggestion, I sent an email to Cindy kind of and Warren to see how much it would cost to have her do it. We have several new people that are going to be coming on board as new buyers. She said she could do it an update anywhere between 500 and 1000 bucks. I think though where we, and maybe we just need to redouble our, our attempts to just get together and try to, because it wasn't that we were going to do it Denise, is that we were going to catalog what we wanted done. What we wanted done. Cindy, Cindy, us paying Cindy a thousand dollars in a vacuum is. Well, no, she, you and I should talk. I think that's all we need to do is have a conversation. Yeah. And she did have some questions already from us to do that or not. To talk? No. No, to, I think to hire someone. I don't need anybody to mention to talk. Either do I. You should know that I am shocked. Are you shocked? Both of us. I think if Sharon and I would make a recommendation to the board to have Cindy move forward, if that's, we come to the conclusion. I think we should, Oh man, we have a conversation with Cindy. I think the sequencing should be that we make her less, you and I, and we run it by these guys so they can at least react and add to it. And then with that less list of issues, then we meet with Cindy. Okay. That sounds like a plan. That's the only thing I would add is do not do anything, but to rails you from the public works director. No, I think we can have a conversation. I'm just absolutely not. Yeah. No. But I think because we are going to have employees. No, no, no. I get it. We really need to have, and Sharon and I were on the same page with what we wanted to see changed in the contract, which needs to be reflected in the person in our policy. So I'm thinking we can just have one meeting or one conversation and my work is by design. And I'm very, I'm trying very hard not to be working seven days a week. Well, I hope not. No, that's, that's the goal. It's just your goal. It's just the goal right now. That's her stretch goals. Okay. I also need to hire somebody part-time. I try not to leave a room without mentioning that. If y'all know what I want, I need to hire somebody in my practice part-time. It's part of why not working seven days a week. Well, you're looking for administrative support. Yes. Part-time. All right. Wait, before we wrap up, can we please go back to something that was just said by somebody? Was it March? I hate Zoom. Can we please have an agenda? I already made a note. I know, but we made that maybe not. I fussed and whined during the exact session. So now I'm going to fuss and whine and follow it. Oh, so it's not on the record. Okay. Go ahead, fuss and whine, but make it clear. Either stop or zoom, stop or zoom everything in person. Zoom or not. Zoom or not. Or in person only. Right. One or the other. Hybrid is so difficult for everybody. 10. Got it. On the record. Thank you. It will be on the agenda. So, you know, the next meeting is going to be the 14th. We're going to start at six. I'm thinking that we should at least six to seven 30. It might be, we might want to do a six to eight. Aren't we meeting on the 7th to do internships? Yes. Yes. Potentially. Right. And I will contact these folks and see if they're available. I read last meeting's minutes. Oh. Am I the only one who did? No, I wrote them. Rick and I wrote them. I wrote them. All right. So we ought to be able to check those often. Yeah. I make a motion that we approve the minutes from the 14th as presented in the folder. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Okay. Yay. It's done. Move to the third. Is there anything else? Excellent. Well done. Well done folks. Well done. How are you without a motion? No. Did you make the motion? Yes. Mark Mahaly made the motion to adjourn at 806, seconded by Rick Keane and unanimously approved by the board.