 Hey Scott, I loved our conversation today. Thank you very much for picking my brains Here's a summary of Some of the stuff we talked about and some ideas kind of that stayed with me that marinated after our call you'll see I'm connecting here to nerd fighters and don't forget to be awesome and How George Carlin throughout his material every year pinball art? Added excuse me added your play pledge and then connected that to play is essential to well-being Which I put under play and subjective well-being with there's a whole bunch of stuff So you can you can follow that up, but also connected it to the play about which How did I never know about the play about but? basically sort of Maybe let me go plays essential play playfulness and Let's attach the play bow to playfulness So we've got that in your the logo for your pay pledge includes how much to your dad's dog Which love to do the play boss. That was just lovely to discover Really kind of what we were trying to figure out was how to find your upward spiral and I think the with the caveat that monetizing neighbors of love feels like it corrupts them And that's a it's an issue for both of us. We love doing what we do When we start charging for it it feels strange and odd So part of our quest was how to turn your making which you do naturally maybe a tiny bit obsessively like me and You create sort of simple artifacts into passive income while feeding the commons still and Connected that to a thought that really is important in mind in both of my brains Which is how do you build profitable businesses around abundance and the commons and hear the story of? Open-source is really interesting. So I had a whole riff on IBM adopting open-source Build loosely federated networks of deep support It is part of the advice from deep service out of the book the support economy Let me connect that because it wasn't and There's lots of different ways to go about this But I think I think if you could find that sweet spot where the things you do naturally in your communities That make you happy you just continue doing but then you you Find new platforms to like sub-stack or like courseware or other kinds of things We can begin making some money for what you do. I think there's a lot of following for what you do I think that you know systems thinking for young humans to make their lives better is a big thing And you are a good guide for newbies in the systems thinking community. You're gifted for this Also When I went into activity boxes for kids before I call this this is kind of some of the research I did I discovered think outside boxes a little passports Kiwi company an article from Good Housekeeping Called 33 best subscription boxes for kids in 2021 I wouldn't dismiss some kind of subscription box a subscription package surprise envelope Kind of thing I think that that's a nifty thing and parents are always looking for interesting things to give their kids And if that interesting thing you give your kid is actually something that might help them become a critical thinker That's like a triple-word score and we both love triple-word scores It's when you have a tile on the board that works in several different ways That's really fantastic So I also added Your rules for a good project So, you know, it should meet the 80-20 rule not have not require a deep dive It shouldn't have parts that we combined and this idea about learning something once and then using it many places And that's factored a lot into my thinking about How you might find your upward spiral the the upward spiral part of it comes from the Recombination of elements comes from the building of community comes from the doing something with passion and then getting paid At the second degree of it not in the first degree of it if that all makes sense So I think we agree that life is short Here's a whole bunch of other things. I did not actually I had a lot of these thoughts were in my brain But they were not connected to the notion that life is short under life advice where I have a ton of stuff There's a lot under life advice and living a full life and so forth So that might be an interesting place for you to wander around All in all, I will attach our call the video of it when I've uploaded to YouTube here to this thought So when you come back into my brain, you'll find it there Thank you so much. It was just a real treat a treat to talk with you and and as I kind of said in the middle that one of the Most wonderful things anyone can ask someone to do is to help them steer their life energy And it was an honor to do that with you. So thanks