 Okay, welcome back to SiliconANGLE's exclusive coverage. This is theCUBE, our flagship program. We go out to the events, extract the signal from the noise, and we are here at O'Reilly Media's conference, the Fluent Conference. We're all the top developers, and really folks who are pushing the envelope around web development, mobile development, and software engineering around user experiences, user design, mobile apps, et cetera. And here they're expanding the world of JavaScript, which has become the most important programming language on the front end. User experience is scaling big time with more stacks, more capabilities. I'm John Furrier, the founder of SiliconANGLE. I'm joined by my co-host for this show, Jeff Frick of SiliconANGLE. Jeff, it's been great. We're here at day two for two days of live coverage. We've been broadcasting the keynotes. We have a lot of interesting segments coming up. We're going to talk to some great experts, thought leaders here in San Francisco. Day two, what's your take about day one, and talk about what we think is going to happen. Day two, let's kick this off. What do you think? I think the most interesting thing that came out was really the evolution of JavaScript into just web platform, web platform, web platform, if I can steal the line from the keynote from yesterday, and that there is really more about, more than just JavaScript, but it's the complete set of tools that are enabling people to deliver in this new world. And I think as we've talked before, and we'll explore more today with the guests, you know, the impact of mobile, and not only again as a distribution mode for your code and your applications, but also as a way to pull data back in, and enabling things that here to for were just not possible by having millions and millions of devices distributed out there collecting data and pumping it back in. So I'm excited to talk to the folks we're going to have on about how mobile's really impacting it and how really thinking about it from a developer perspective as we talked briefly before we went on air, you know, the increasing complexity across all these multiple platforms with the growing adoption of Android, and now we're hearing all about Chrome, and then you've got, of course, the Apple OS, iOS, and what that'll represent. So how are the folks addressing the challenges to deliver their applications in this new world? Yeah, and to me, it's ultimately about the developers. The developers here are really pushing the envelope on the next generation of software engineering, and really taking JavaScript, which is an amazing standard, it's become such a great environment for web apps, and now mobile and other environments, we're seeing it move from kind of the old legacy JavaScript to a new generation where standards are developing, new tooling, new platforms, and ultimately scaling out the most important aspects of user design. I think that's going to come in the form of protocols, tooling, and just exciting, and developers want to know what's next, what are the new environments, what are the new APIs, and I think the most exciting thing to come out of JavaScript development is the notion of full stack engineering, new tooling, and protocols. Protocols like REST and APIs are really pushing the envelope. We heard from Splunk yesterday, Paypal is talking today, and ultimately having a platform where developers can use JavaScript in a way that scales on a full stack implementation is really the key for developers, and for the developers out there watching who aren't attending Fluent, this is where the action is, and this is where the new stuff's being talked about, conversations about responsiveness, responsiveness design, we all know the problems with JavaScript on browsers. You take that to the server side with Node, new opportunities, new challenges emerge, and this community is developing that, Jeff, and I think that's exciting, and again, the Amazon moment in the world of impact of developers has really transformed this notion of API-based infrastructure. REST APIs are really a real key protocol, and new standards need to be developed, and with the cloud, you're going to see that, with Node, it's really going to do some amazing server side stuff, and funny on Twitter last night, people talking about beer.js, people like to drink beer in this audience, so a lot of people were out last night drinking beer and talking about code, and this is all about code, and it's all about the future, and it's a really exciting conference. Again, developers want to know what's out there, new things are developing, and again, JavaScript is really a very, very important product. It's here to stay, that's a fact, and now it's going to a whole other dimension. Yeah, I just wanted to remind the people out there too, if you're not fortunate enough to be here at the show, and we're at the Hilton Hotel in San Francisco, you know, part of the mission of theCUBE is to bring you the vibe, to bring you to the show, to get the right people on theCUBE, so you can hear from them, you can talk to them, so I really want to encourage you to participate. The hashtag for the event is hashtag FluentConf, that's hashtag FluentConf, we've got our Twitter tweet decks up, we're keeping an eye, so we'd love to hear from you, if you got a question you want to forward into the guest, please send it along, we encourage that, and we want to make it a conversation, theCUBE's all about a conversation, it's about getting the people, getting you the information that you want to have, and we're going to get the best that we can find here. Yeah, and the people are flowing in now off the keynote, we're going to have some guests on, to talk about JavaScript, talk about the future of software engineering in the front end, user experience is front and center for developers, but also coding, new tools, we heard from Bootstrap yesterday, it was a great talk about in the book that was just released by O'Reilly called Bootstrap, again, ease of deployment, creativity, but also scale, coding in the right way, and also creativity, it's really a focus here, and again, standards need to develop, and JavaScript has some legacy, there's some baggage at JavaScript, that is moving quickly with new tools, Googles here, PayPal's here, Splunk is here, SiliconANGLE and Wikibon are here, this is theCUBE, this is where we break down and extract the signal from the noise, and we'll do that again all day today, I'm John Furrier with Jeff Frick, and we're going to be breaking it down all day long, and Jeff, I want to say, I haven't noticed any VCs here, but if you're a VC, you should be here, I mean, what do you think? I haven't seen any VCs. Yeah, you should be here, I mean, they had an entire little startup contest last night, Kenny and I walked around while people were drinking beer, of course, and saw some of the innovative startups that were here, I mean, I think one of the things that continues to amaze me is this whole concept of delivering service on demand, and not only Amazon who's done that with computing resources and storage resources, but one of the startups last night was scooters, so it's kind of like ZIF cars, but they're doing it with scooters, and so you're not buying a scooter, you're purchasing transportation on demand, and they've got a little fleet of them, and you may think it's kind of funny, but especially with the younger folks today, they like to buy their services by the drink, and we're seeing this even transform from the virtual world to the physical world enabled with software, because that's how you find out where your scooter is, where you're going to drop it off. I asked the guy, I said, what's your main application that people are actually using these things for, and he said commuting. So, who would think that rather than use the existing public transportation or buy your own car because of software, because of your mobile device, you could say, I want to get a scooter, I'm going to drive to work and drop it off for the next guy to take it to the next place. So there's a lot of innovation, a lot of startups, and as you said, a lot of hardcore developers here that are riding the next great app. Yeah, and I think the big thing from yesterday's takeaway was, obviously code is everywhere, code is on the screen, people are coding in the hallways. I mean, this is a developer geek fest, and this is all about coding, but we had Brady Forrest on yesterday who is now a VC's, he's put on the web 2.0 expo, he's been in the flow, he's been part of the Fluent Conference, and he and I talked about this notion of DevOps. Is there a DevOps equivalent for hardware? And the big thing that's happening is this industrial internet is probably one of the hottest mega trends that's going to be driving development. Internet of things, industrial internet. We talked about this company Nest, it's building a thermostat, that's not a thermostat, it's a user interface, like an iPod that runs your house, could have a human interface to it, all software-driven, software-led, really, really cool, amazing things, and ultimately, use cases. And Brady Forrest's venture fund is a lot like other funds out there in these angel networks where they're funding practical uses of technology for the everyday human being. People, both speakers don't necessarily connect elegantly up with software to the real world, so they're going to do things like that, connect the wristwatches, going to connect Google Glass. You're going to see software with cloud and with JavaScript, these developers in this environment start programming for real world scenarios. People could operate their speedboat, their sailboat, their cars, their lifestyle. You're going to start to see the lifestyle business of the consumer lifestyle and businesses integrate in with software. And this tech community, which is traditionally done it from a geek's perspective, is going to take a mainstream. So I think you're going to start to see everyday things in our life, be networked, be connected, and driven by software. And these are the guys that are coding it, Jeff. The guys at this conference are right here are going to develop the standards with JavaScript on the front end and a variety of other tooling and platforms. This is what's exciting to me. I think this internet of things is really, again, one of the big things that we see happening. And again, we've always pointed out the trends on siliconing and Wikibon before. A lot of other sites and O'Reilly like us have identified the internet of things as a big deal. And they've had the Maker Faire for many, many years. This tinkering concept of engineering is going to go to a software model. That's where cloud, that's where this user design stuff really connects together. So it's very clear to me that this is the future. Yeah, and we've got a guest on today, John. James Ferguson from, I think it's quickly, I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right, KWIQILY, and he told me what it's saying it's for last night, but it's basically intelligence. And they do commercial building control with JavaScript enabled devices. So again, as you said, the industrial internet is here. You've asked a number of guests, John, that we've had on kind of what inning are we in? Where are we kindergarten? And I think it's still really, really days. I mean, I think as with most technology, it takes a while to figure out and start to think in a way that you can use this in ways that you couldn't do before. And so we're excited to get James on. So we should have a great day. We're looking forward to a wall to wall coverage. What do you think? It's going to be great. We're excited. Again, this is a geek conference. This is where developers are developing new tooling. This is going to set the stage for the future. And this is going to take JavaScript from all its benefits and all its baggage to a whole nother level. And I think you're going to see protocols. You're going to start to see the standards. And ultimately it's an open source paradigm, Jeff. So the community itself is designing this in real time and really moving the ball down the field. Again, JavaScript is here to stay. There's no debate about that. JavaScript is relevant. And it's going to move from what the baggage it has, it's going to morph and keep more opportunities. And I think you're going to see things server side and full stack coding and tooling come out. And this is the community that's doing it. This is Silicon Angles theCUBE. This is our flagship program. We go out to the events, extract the ceiling from the noise. We have wall-to-wall coverage all day too of our live feed. And go to siliconangle.com and see the feeds there with the keynotes. Great guests. Stay tuned, keep watching and tune in. We're on Twitter. So call us and tweet us. Let us know. We'll be right back after this short break with our next guest. Thanks.