 Still all independent. It's crazy, bro In the morning waking up early kitchen table Waking up before these kids across the street eating a tree houses and start yelling outside But we up here in the morning, you know I'm saying hard-working dedication trying to get this Politics and these these thoughts how you feel me thoughts that hopefully, you know, start your mind up to get busy to do some action because this ain't just a Podcast for the sake of talking it ain't the podcast for the sake of us getting on panels and talking about our politics But this is a podcast to hopefully inspire you to get involved in your in your community And to take action about what we is learning and what we was talking about The things you was learning by yourself and your own study with a study group. You know, I'm saying we try to Be about that action be about building these programs be about serving the community be about housing people Be about feeding people be about you feel me getting people clothed healthcare Farming, you know really trying to build this autonomy. You know I'm saying for the people by the people, you know, so Have a black episode 144 we back. How you feeling, brother? I feel similar to you I've come to understand this as the people's podcast. I think that's our intention, you know To speak to the masses of the people in a way that will do the things that you said Organized and mobilized them I'm happy that we're episode 144 I don't know how often I say this, but I really wish we could do more Really, I really do But there's only so much time in a day To do this But you know the organization is growing and so as we get more members that takes certain things off our hands and we will be able to produce the show because I look at content coming from other sectors of I guess the quote-unquote left and they pushing shit out every day, you know, but they pushing stuff out every day It's super informative, right? but it It's lacking You know the analysis of people who are attached to the new african dependence movement, right? We're attached to a movement for sovereignty for black people in the so-called United States and with that being you know 13 to 15 percent of this nation's population We need to be making things give it to them or who else will they turn to they'll turn to, you know The liberals or that they'll turn to the grand old party, you know the Republican Party And so in terms of a democratic socialist, you know, there's just it's so many it's so many options out there for them That in order for us to keep up we need to be Active in every area the same way that they are so that's you know I would say most of these platforms have a daily show, but we start dealing with, you know, the The big media conglomerates like an MSNBC or a CNN or a Fox. They're not every they have every Every minute on the minute reporting, you know and providing a perspective, right? providing a Agenda how to think or what to think they're providing a what to think, you know, and so for us we at least got to be able to Combat that and I think we've done a better job with Being able to produce a weekly show, but let's say for example The reason why we couldn't do the reason why we haven't recorded in so long is because we wouldn't we travel for cadre work And then we had our own Weekly PE for people's programs and then the actual program We have to do know all the administrative and logistical work for the back end of the programs and different fundraising efforts, right? It's Only so many hours in the day Versus where if you were a reporter for Fox There's people who are writing the script writers people, you know, just reading from a teleprompter. Good day America Hopefully we get to that point though where we got, you know hundreds of members where it's like a you know We just are the voices or we turn into the actual writers and producers that are someone else who's more care charismatic And who are you know, who could possibly host the podcast or whatever other media entities we do and so in short I am Glad to be here grateful to be here. I'm happy that we are Hopefully gonna be able to I don't say hopefully I believe we're gonna provide a much needed Foundational analysis on you know, we already provided with our last not our last episode about about two or three episodes ago We did something on bricks. Yeah. All right. So we're gonna be talking about bricks Bricks plus what now talking about bricks bricks plus and what it means for a new African independence moving what it means for Black people here in the United States are Africans across across the Aspera. We're gonna be talking about, you know electoral politics and Yeah, I think it's a much needed topic and Much needed perspective that we need to provide to get people to start to Question the way they've been talked to think about these things now We only gonna have like 45 minutes to an hour so we can never fully discuss these topics In the way that they the way that we could but if you look at the previous episodes Not just the bricks episode but throughout it can help you provide I guess get a full scope analysis on where we land on some of these institutions organizations, etc Yeah, and if you listen to that bricks episode outside go back and listen to that after this You know, or you know, maybe hit the pause button right here and go back and listen to that first You know, I don't want to lose our Listeners, you know These apps these days you get distracted all of a sudden you switch in between the podcast episode and you want to You want to tick tock me into something? Either listen to it first or listen to it after but you know, it's some new developments in this world things is changing That's episode 139 the one that we're referring to episode 139 and it's on YouTube You know I'm saying so go to our youtube.com slash hell black pot and tap in with that You could watch it on your big screen. You could watch on your small screen You could watch it on your iPhone you watch on your iPad you might have a Samsung you could watch it on that You know I'm saying tap in with it youtube.com slash hell black pot and while we're promoting you feel me go to our Soundcloud soundcloud.com slash hell black podcast Apple podcast Spotify Amazon all week we pretty much everywhere. You know I'm saying but go to our patreon patreon.com slash hell black pot Subscribe you feel me support the real you know these other podcasts got a lot of support We got to support the the new african podcast. You know I'm saying Yeah, and like you said We told people to go pause and listen to episode 139 just pause and go to patreon.com and send it to somebody bro Like file is I think our lowest tier is $5 and that that really does go a long way and just being able to even take a break And do some of the research for this stuff, you know, I We got to do a bunch of research on these topics or we can just come up here and talk ramble and just make Yeah, anyone that's trying to teach somebody anything, you know how much you got to learn to be able to teach it To know how much or how much we have to how much information you have to acquire How much knowledge you have to acquire just be able to even speak on it in a affluent and detailed way, you know So if you want us to be able to do more research To get more guests all these different things, you know, it's gonna take a little bit more money But hopefully five dollars for those that have the ability to sacrifice it Think about it. You invested in the people What J. Cole say that that CD cost the same as two number three so he said for McDonald's Now I ain't gonna do it. I don't know it's five hours is when you got You know the cost of basic essential needs like braille water fish toilet paper and shit costing 70% increase since 2020. Some people actually might not have five hours. Yeah, so I understand if you do Yeah, you got more than five dollars. I know, you know one person somebody got five dollars Even if it's just a one-time donation Subscriber But yes for that patreon Bricks plus so what's your biggest takeaways? Bricks plus six. Well, I think just to start to give people a refresher You know in the previous episode we talked about bricks and the formation of this multi polar world meaning that multi Nations have power rather than a unipolar world where the United States and You know the international Monopoly monopoly capitalism of the West is in complete control. So now with the development of bricks And these geo political shifts, you know these world shifts Bricks is now Another block aiming to compete with you know what they call the the G7. Mm-hmm, you know Competing with them, right? So now you have bricks this new formation Brazil Russia India China South Africa Saudi UAE Argentina Iran Ethiopia and Egypt Right. So you have now Nearly 50% of the world's population in this new Economic superstructure Where you know, they're openly calling for D-dollarization Right openly calling for What some might say is a de-investment from the West in terms of economic structure Which you know only time will tell right so we've seen this new these new shit from this from this This brick summit So initial takeaways is you know, this is a nations Which have their own national interest coming together and saying that you know, we're tired of the dollar We're tired of the West Dictating all of our lives and we want to have a chance at attempting to dictate our own I think about nations like the Islamic Republic of Iran that is faced the most sanctions out of any other nation You know I'm saying and those sanctions is war to where a country can literally is essentially blackballed from the rest of the world Markets and is unable to secure money unable to scare their own assets that they have frozen unable to secure certain medicine for their people you feel me so that is a Genocidal tactic on a nation so you have a nation that has been sanctioned for so long now become a part of a Block the economic block to when out the sanctions essentially have been subverted, you know So a lot of ways this is a you can say for some, you know, it's the chickens coming home in a roost like they The West tried to starve some of these nations, you know I'm saying and now these nations are able to come to this new Economic superstructure to be able to trade to be able to develop You know as well as we know there's this bank associated with it That's giving loans out to developing countries in the name of development, right? And we can't just be like oh, it's this complete, you know saying they're the same thing as developing from a capitalist standpoint IMF and the World Bank and these terrible loans now banks are gonna be able to develop in a certain time or countries now Have the opportunity to turn to bricks to develop a certain type of way like so it's a It's a shift. Yeah, it's a shift and only time will tell on you know, what's gonna come from it, right? Because ultimately, you know, there's gonna be contradictions within it. I'm not gonna just land vast it but you know, I mean if you look at a India Algeria was supposed to Become a part of bricks, but India blocked Algeria becoming part of bricks. You know I'm saying And the French was the ones who went to the Indians and say hey, man Don't come into bricks don't let the Algeria come into bricks now we put that in the situation of What's going on right now in West Africa if Algeria was in bricks? That's gonna improve Algeria's GDP which will allow Algeria to support these other West African nations right now that is battling who the French Right, so there's gonna be interesting, you know, I'm saying it's It's business deals that is happening like he was saying it's like these different business deals that's happening between nations with their own National interests, so we're gonna see how these nations that actually, you know care about the people that actually want to advance You know people the humanity of people and her material needs versus nations that still might be in it for their own economic Capitalist interests. Yeah, for sure, you know so I feel similar to you we got to see how it all plays out like how I Guess how like Lula de Silva and Xi Jinping and pooling like how do their relationships develop with the West and the quote-unquote developing countries, right? Yeah, I do think it's as it pertains to like geo politics, right? The arena where you have these different nation states and blocks fighting for like dominance and influence We are living in a historical time period, you know as it pertains to this moment, I would say she for pretty much most of our lives has been You know this imperialist neo-colonialist domination by Western Europe and Western Europe's settler colony aka the United States, right? But now you have this block where prior to what you said is 50% of the world's population now with its six I believe the exact number is 46%. We know it's about to be 50. Yeah Especially because the West you feel me like we ain't the West ain't having children the same way that these other nations are Yeah, I'm saying and so before the new additions a couple weeks ago. You had Brazil Russia India China and South Africa accounting for like 31% of the world's total GDP, right? So that's like a lot of economic power, right and Now you add the UAE Saudi Arabia Saudi and Iran Three of the biggest oil producers you feel me. That's okay. We could talk about climate change and oil and It changes a lot of things especially if we're talking about the petrodollar Mm-hmm, and then the economic, you know How that boosts up the West you filming how the West has been in in bed essentially with the Saudis for so long So now we're gonna see like all right. How is this what's gonna happen with these shifts? You know I'm saying is it gonna shift out of it? You know as it seems like that's what's gonna happen, but what's what's actually gonna happen, you know, because if we know Historically, especially with the Saudis a you know They will play both sides So we'll see you know I'm saying yeah, and but is it isn't important? I think it is it's an important shift from the West It's an important shift from the West so we'll just see what objectively speaking Yeah, you feel me just like these other like it's a step. This ain't the solution this ain't liberation the same freedom You feel me people are some someone actually I respect and look to for like world affairs. Oh, this is revolution This is a revolutionary thing. I'm just like a Only time will tell only time will tell why we can't just be so quick Oh, just because it's D dollarization that means revolution because many of these nations on the list still function through capitalist ideology and capitalist economic system, you know, which is yeah Exploitative I think the dance is what you and so but we know that steps to move towards in the egalitarian and communal system We know there's steps to it Yeah, for sure see if there's that will step to it but some of these nations historically Oh, they haven't been for me for the people. I think one of the biggest takeaways based off what you said earlier as well as It just gives these, you know, quote-unquote developing countries another option, right? I think what a lot of people don't recognize or have come to understand when you are dealing with Western entities like the World Bank like NATO like IMF these things that were born out of The World War two the end of World War two right in Europe not having so much infrastructure or power even just actual like humans left Because the world was fought on a soil right in the US Being able to become a global power after this right where you see the United Nations move to New York Where you see the NATO move to New York, right? It just gives these When these IMF and and these Western institutions are quote-unquote helping develop these other places It comes with these shitty long interests that you were talking about right comes with USA It comes with the central intelligence agency comes with Western train leaders and military Period craft it comes you can't you got to use this you got to use this architecture company You got to use this shipping company. You have to use these tools this industry these enterprises and they're all owned By the United States or the West under the guise of developing your country now if I come like be I'm trying to make you self-sufficient bro period I'm gonna help you Plant these I'm gonna help you start your garden, right? but I'm gonna send the technical support to you, but we're gonna make sure your people is trained to become the manager That's a different thing versus me a nigga if you under the guise of self-sufficiency You got to buy my shit. You got to use my tools. You got to use my crew. What do you have? But a finished product that still wants to finish product is done now I'm sending my people to come manicure the lawns to come do the pesticides to come You know, it's just like what that's that's what happens in you know historically Like nations like China haven't done that words, you know We're gonna send a few people over there and we also want to help actually develop your people Teach them the skills so that y'all can do this on the West doesn't do that The West wants to handicap you and if they can't handicap you They'll do what hit you with sanctions like you said, which are a genocidal act. You feel me like if It was to the point where uh, you know, a lot of these nations weren't able to get access to the vaccine People died because of that. No, it's giving them the worst vaccine possible, too Yeah, and the same saying I'm pro-vaccine, but you don't say that's what they was doing Vaccine is just excuse me vaccine is just one example. You know at one point Was Wasn't Like I think it was like Afghanistan But wasn't Afghanistan they had like a sanction on them to where they couldn't get a asthma medication To where they couldn't get asthma medication like my bro like children, bro, you know, you feel me that's that's But but I think that's why it's important for us to have like a very like balanced Understanding and not get too excited and I get to you know, it's like, yeah, this we should have some hope Right, we should have some Optimism is a little optimism. That's how I look at it happening in the world, you know But I think to your point a lot of people sometimes they'll take okay any country that is involved with Africa They just automatically call imperialist, you know, I'm saying so it's like, okay If China is involved with Africa there. Oh imperialism. Okay, like this imperialism of you know Iran involved all imperialist like what are we like cutting countries nations are going to have relations with other nations? States that's the simple fact, but what is that relationship? Is it a relationship of? Cooperation is a relationship of helping develop another nation because nations do need help with developing You know I'm saying is it a mutual cooperation that's happening economically in the economics sphere? You feel me right? That's how these nations work is they make deals We have that area helpful or either not helpful, you know I'm saying like Iran and China just made a deal where they're bartering I believe oil from Iran and then China is saying we will rebuild We'll give you the support to rebuild Eman Khomeini Airport. That's that's that's like a beneficial deal Yeah, versus the West coming in, you know, I'm saying as an example of the West coming in with the IMF Okay, we'll build this airport and you owe us $1 billion and the interest is going to compound every year In order for countries like Russia and China to be imperialists if we can understand how imperialism In fact happens they would have to either enslave or kill millions of people Over hundreds of years Subject these people who are left to their morals their values their culture their social economic political institutions and functions It's not helping you build it. It's not bartering and trading. That's not imperialism imperialism is it is is a company with genocide It's removing the people's will interest power That's what imperialism is. It's not me saying like I look at bro. I understand you've been put in this situation I'll help you build your house But in return Can you cut down the oil prices or can we trade oil or can you give me grain? Can you give me wheat? That's not imperialism, bro Come on imperialism is a Process that happens over Historically has happened over centuries and it involves wiping out entire peoples and Subjecting them to an alien way of living an alien way of thinking That's imperialism People It's interesting because people want to talk about business all the time. You know I'm saying like, you know like very in this culture It's like, oh, we got to be an entrepreneur You got to make some money or something like that But then you look at a nation that is essentially doing business with another nation and doing better business than the West Like are you expecting people just to do bad business for they self too? You feel me like that's a very American way of thinking What are we talking about and what you think about man, they're forgiving billions of dollars with them owns Straight up that is for another nation that would be considered bad business. Mm-hmm, you know, so Hey, I mean, I think a lot of times people will talk about the international You know, we'll talk about this world politics and then people will forget to localize it people will forget to Nationalize it to their current condition. All right. So for us being new Africans, you know, what is What are these new developments of bricks bricks plus six? What does this mean for us here inside the belly of the beast in this land that they call America? Well, I'll look at it It reminds us that nation states is the name of the game, right? And until new Africans in fact have their own nations, we will have our own nation We will have no power, right? And let's remember that the united states promised us the promised us the nation Where it was a special order number 15 in 1865 which birthed 40 acres in the mule where they said they would take I think 400,000 acres from The confederates and the slave owners and distributed to New Africans in the south to govern themselves to have land They understood this over almost 200 years ago that land was the basis That could stay there was military and they could never live full time there And that was supposed to be a eventual transfer away from the and it was supposed to be completely owned operated controlled by this was the real black on But that's what they that's them in 1865 saying you should have an at your own nation That's that's that's the only so if they understood this 1865 what has changed land is Malcolm was telling us it telling us 90 years from that Land is the basis of all independence. That's what Malcolm was pushing in the 50s, right? Land is the basis of all independence. So this is what Bricks with that understanding that I have this is what Bricks remind me of And We as new Africans have to remember that we are being subjected to the national interests of our masters The same people that brought us over here and made us work and toil and suffer and die on this land or the same people that govern Today the same constitution that was written Declaration of independence. That's what still governs this nation And so we as new Africans must must must remember that and recognize that We need to be governed by our own interest, right an interest that doesn't have us Making up 40 percent of the people incarcerated And you did some research a couple weeks ago for either Yeah, I was gonna say either for our own cadre or for when we went out, but As we talk about nation stays being a name of the game We talked about the republic of new africa, right the black belt, uh, alabama, south carolina, georgia Louisiana and mississippi, right the five states that we would like to get control of to have the republic And make that our nation the republic of new africa If we were to when we get those states, we will as if we were to have it today We will have the 13 ties gdp All right currently there's not an african nation that is on the top 20 of the world's economies list But out of the nine out of the 10 poorest nations They're all african nations, which is insane because you have a country like guinea that is third in producing, uh box site You have rwanda in the congo or rwanda Or is a ugandan ethiopia in the top 10 for coffee production. You have uh rwanda producing 70 percent of the world's tantalum and you have the congo producing the congo producing 70 percent of the world's tantalum and In the congo producing also, uh cobalt How are these things happening where you're producing over half of what the world uses and yet you can't let's look at uh Uh Niger, right They produce 70 percent of the uranium that france uses for their for their power and their energy people in nigeria Don't have electricity for themselves and they're not on the list but france is on the list though How are you getting all your resources from this african nation? Are you in the top 10? But these african nations aren't on the list at all So this is this is what this means for us again in short Is that the moment that new africans have a land that they can call their own Specifically the black belt will be in the top 20 world economies And then as soon as africa frees itself from the yoke of neocolonialism It will be home to the world's most powerful countries in the world's most powerful people most powerful people That's just that's just the facts And if we look at it from a rna and a technical standpoint Who is going to have the technical skills from living in the so-called belly of the beast to be able to Help these west african and african nations develop with the technical skills that we have here the people who have developed this this country period That's mathematics Period point blank So that's the way we have to be thinking otherwise What else is my question is this just going to develop in a certain way based off of lack of infrastructure lack of a nation state How is this actually going to develop? I mean that's that would be my question In terms of or what is the highest level of organization? What is the highest level of development? Right? So for new africans for new africans What is the highest level? There's nationhood At this point, it's the highest level. Otherwise, what else is it? We're just all these uh dismantled places and just different localized things and and we have no base We have no national territory. What are we gonna be? Nomads living out the road. That's what I always did. I'm like, bro We don't do anything for ourselves. Like if we actually can't ask new app because we're not american, right? They've been Kwame Torre and Jamil Amin was telling us this in the 60s. We second-class citizens Kwame Torre said, how am i American? I can't do nothing Americans do because we're saying I am a man Even the white even the white Americans living in the trailers. You ain't american the american identity and nationality is preserved for The elite the bourgeoisie and the petty bourgeoisie who do they bootlicking and boot stepping Right, but for the masses of the people you are what to have a national identity means what you predict you participate in the nation How do you participate in the nation as new africans when we make up 40 percent of the incarcerated population? How do you participate when you don't don't own land Don't own housing Don't own water. Don't own any in control anything that actually gives you life You don't know But you but that's your nationality You are a part of this nation. No, you're subjected to this nation. You are not part of it. You are subjected to it And now they might we're gonna we're gonna get this a little bit later They might they engineer they manufacture what you think is your participation in a nation But on a day-to-day basis you can do nothing to change your material reality You don't participate nothing and they give you limited options They give you limited options the only way you can change a reality is to make my pockets more wealthy It's to go drive door dash To go to go drive uber to go work in these factories to sleep on the streets That's that's your only options to participate and if that's that's what that's what that's what american nationality is And your check is getting stolen from you and it's going straight to the corporations It's going straight to the people only control the means of production We as new africans have to start thinking what does Nationalism actually look like for us. What does it actually look like to live and can contribute to a way that a society functions? We're not doing that right now. How do how do we not only just a society but the world period to engage with a broader struggle for pan africanism That's why it's such a How can you be a pan africanist and reject this From a dialectical standpoint We have the rise of the new african nation and then what the new african nation can do to our homeland And support our homeland and support our people here at the same time I would say on a small scale. We're talking about the 13th biggest gdp. Yeah, we're talking about economics We're talking about okay if this a coup happens In nigeria, which happened and now they don't have the electrical support to be able to develop the electrical infrastructure That the rna could send engineers To be able to help develop that infrastructure. Y'all talking about okay. You don't want china You don't want russia. It was just hypothetically speaking. You don't want any other nation And you just want another black nation a new african nation to be able to do that Okay, there. Here's the rna to be able to do that and we develop in a certain type of way Otherwise, what else are we talking about? For real, what are we talking about? We we as new africans have to ask ourselves first We is a quote-unquote black people in this country look at your skin for all my people who identify as black Nothing is black about it. Even the darkest of us, right? But for the use of using language that resonates We as black people have to start looking at even Yeah, I would say more so on an individual level most of us Don't got shit most of us struggle every day To to make it happen whether you got You know, even they gotta say people living making hundreds of thousands of dollars live Check to check right people making a hundred thousand dollars of check to check and we know how the majority of this country lives, right? But you have to start asking yourself How can you start to change on material reality? How can we start to change the collective material that reality on a micro level right for us that will look like? uh deconitiation programs organizing the community right starting to practice the tenets of Nation-building of nationalism on a small scale level right and then on the macro is doing what you said once we really Free the land and have the RNA is being able to participate in the BRIC summit is being able to participate on the world stage That's what true Sovereignty and self-determination is And be able to decide do we actually want to even be a part of BRICS That sovereignty making a choice Right now we have no choice the facade of choice. Do you feel me? Yeah So it's like that's the development that we got to move towards otherwise. We can't even take part We buy multiple or this de dollarization that nigga, but you still a nigga You're still a negro. You're still an african-american So how do we develop in a way to where we actually have agents and that's why first part comes to identification Identifying yourself as a new african. So once you understand that historical development, then you have a land to fight for Or let's say even let's say you do you go through that process and you say no identify as as american How do you participate in american nationalism? besides Tweeting and going on facebook and you whatever micro aggressions and macro aggressions you put out into the world Like how do you actually participate in building this thing? Do you actually agree the average american citizen? Do you actually agree with the way this country is functioning? Like you really believe and if you do well those people are actually sick If you actually believe that like healthcare and housing is not a human right that these are things you should have to Work your entire life for it. Maybe not even and maybe not even acquire until you well into your 60s Then you can't be saved This is for the people. This is for the people who are like, you know, like damn, I think I'm american But I don't really agree with the way that this world functions The society functions actually yourself. What can you actually do? Especially the public folks that are 40 50 years old have been participating in the so-called democracy for 30 30 years What what can you do and now for my new africans, you know? I urge you to go to some of our Earlier episodes or bosses alluding to right now where your national identity is because again, we've said What's the name? What's the name of that podcast? So we did back in the day man What's the name of that podcast? You know, I mean and Malcolm X been telling us you ain't you ain't no american you're african, right? And understand what it means to be african and that your allegiance to be to africa and for africans in america I believe your allegiance to be to the republic of new africa Helping us free of land so that we can actually have some You know some freedom deliberation and start to build this thing for ourselves And then we can complete Compete and participate on the grand scale wishes, you know a bricks That's what I would say Yeah, so it's a lot of new developments from bricks, but then we also have a lot of shifts and In the homeland and the continent, you know, there's been a lot of coups going on right now So what do you think these recent coups mean? Uh, not only for the continent, but for us as New africans here Well, so if we looked at what happened the coups in molly, nigeria and gabon I would say starting with the first two they seem to be getting a completely different response from Euro america, right? Where molly has been hit with sanctions where france is saying I've seen different political figures from france basically saying like we will die Before we just give up power, right? And why would they Just give up the power right when we said I mentioned earlier how france relies on 70 percent of its uranium, which is what they use to their nuclear power um They use they depend on molly they've depend on nigeria for that the european the eu the european union, right relies on 15 to 30 percent of their uh uranium From nigeria. That's too much Infrastructure and power that they rely literal power that they rely on electricity that they rely on They're not finna concede that power. They're not finna concede that, you know, I'm saying Especially because of they trying to maintain a power you feel me and keep their people their way of life They try to lay alive, but also keep their people seduced as well Internally period we gotta have certain luxuries We would have a certain way of living for y'all to not to question y'all reality as well For y'all not to start to unplug from the matrix, right? What this is is a glitch in the matrix Oh wait, these people woke up that wasn't supposed to happen We're supposed to have access to the resources for another hundred years. You know, I'm saying we've been here since 18 We've been in this colonial position since what? Uh The 1800s right 19th century We had to revamp it a little bit in the 20th century But we've been in this position of power for hundreds of years. This wasn't this was a fine a year plan But obviously I make some adjustments. That's what they're gonna do is make a you know, a few adjustments And then in gabon, right you have A very oil rich country now I can't compare it to like a Saudi Arabia or an Iran, but I believe they produce like a billion dollars worth of oil a year that's As it pertains to their national sovereignty independence that could do a lot for their people That that could do a lot for their people But I think when talking about Gabon you was giving me a little information on their leader, right? The dude who let the cool in the general. Yeah, if you want to speak to that. Yeah, I mean There was a information basically his family They say allegedly he was cousins with the president. He worked for the dad for hell. I'll leave up bongo He worked for the dad. He worked for the dad. Then he worked for the son. Then he was ousted for a bit But he has multiple properties in the west So you feel me so you have multiple properties and they asked him about the properties. They're like, uh, what's personal business is personal business You know I'm saying so You don't get property in the west as a west african leader or as a as an african leader without the approval With who and then they said oh this information became public. There was a cia investigation That's the cia point and they fangret they self the cia said, okay, we've got to open an investigation We've got to look into this right so he's western trained military wise By the west by america then he has properties in the west Right, and then if we look at the very the way I the way I try and develop an analysis I look at what the media is saying look at what the cnn is saying look at what bbc is saying Very different Very different coverage compared to molly very different coverage Compared to niger you feel me so My only time will tell but my hypothesis so far is that all right you feel me there was actually some There can be a revolutionary coup or there can be a reactionary coup It looks like you know it has a reactionary element to it Even though the people who was in power already were already reactionary You know i'm saying so it was a reactionary coup to I think america uses france as a lacking right if we understand the broader Structure of pan europeanism there's the top dogs and there's the the runts You know i'm saying france is up there, but america is still calling the shots america is now like we can't trust the french to actually control these Neo colonies anymore, so what are we gonna do we already have our assets installed We have an asset installed and we're gonna use that asset to Run a coup and now we're gonna secure some of our entrance our interests right here in gabon Because we're losing power in different areas or the potential to lose power in different areas So that's what I think is happening with this one, you know only time will tell that's But based off of what's happened. That's why I said the two the molly and the jeer coups had been responding to differently. Yeah, uh, and then Yeah, bachina fissile Yeah, we just we just have to see how how it plays out right will uh ibrahim trayori actually succeed power in 2024 like he said he will Sure, if you're doing good don't succeed it Yeah, I mean, but he says he wants to he's had like a real a true democratic process, you know And so if you need some times, you know, yeah But yeah, I hear we just gonna see what else at what time you like because even like you said if he does if if the if the The state The nation of brykina fissile is on the up and up and you're seeing all these improvements and well being The living of the masses of the people I I don't think it will make sense for him to succeed power And unless this person is more well equipped to like even Uh, amplify or do better than him that I could see a movie moving But I think only time will tell like how this actually even if it's uh They might even have a actual like, you know, they've been working on like a federation with molly So who knows what that that will look like by then, you know But you you already made the point that only time will tell and that if you ever want to understand how If something is you know, uh In benefit of the masses of the people of any given particular nation look at how the united states media covers it Because they want to get you in alignment with what they believe on a mass media scale, right? So like if they didn't plan to invade a place to go and start democracy, they'll tell you that like this was a uh A coup that was not supported by the people. This is a a dictatorship someone who's uh Who's an armor with power who's overcome with power and greed and we must go in and support the masses of the people That's when you know some fucks you're about to have it But if they saying like oh, we support this leader and we recognize this government as the true government You should know that it's a neocolonial force um But uh, yeah, I will say back to original question I think what this means is it further shows like the struggle for true democracy that's existed since The continent has come with uh in contact with europe in the 15th century and european Morals and values and economic institutions began to permeate the continent Uh, and it's important to note that again this instability that you see on the continent where all these coups are constantly happening That's a result of neocolonialism Period period point blank is a part of that that struggle um You know, they will say that dialectic of Of true independence and sovereignty and for the masses of people to actually be in power that that's that's what we're seeing happening right now um and This is again a part of the constant struggle for africa to be in charge of its own resources bro We said it earlier when you have Some when you have the one of the most Richest continents in the world of natural resources and minerals and yet none of these nations Are on the top 20 World economies list the us is or is top two They produce 96 thousand Uh metric tons of bauxite a year guinea has A bauxite reserve of seven billion metric tons We bauxite is one of the key minerals for aluminum Glossy aluminum's everywhere street lights cars You know all your appliances the united states on its soil produces 96,000 metric tons a year Guinea has a reserve A reserve of seven billion metric tons One is top two One is not it's not even on the list This don't make sense We talk about a a nation like, uh, nijir Where it's uh producing 70 percent of france's nuclear power and yet we go out there You go out there and there are people that don't have electricity 24 hours a day Who what gives them the right to that like Think about on the mass scale the people in france live these amazing lives by the people in the jir suffer Gabon produces a billion dollars worth of oil A year But yet that one is one of the poorest nations in the world The congo produces 70 percent of the world's cobalt That that's all how all it's how we use these phones how we use these mics How we use these cars start how we like all these batteries of the tv the the lights Our way of life They fund a complete way of living and these people don't have anything. What makes that right Who gets the how does a foreign entity get to determine Where these natural resources go and this goes back to 1884 For alovine bismarck and king leopold II When they carved it up for his natural resources in america was right there at the table Right there at the table. This happened hundreds of years ago They just make how does that make sense? It don't make no sense. So Uh, I see what what ibrahim chore is doing with uh, is it abdu'l ramah? Ra abdu'l ramah remain from uh, this year rough money. Uh, probably abdu'l. Let me see. I really don't abdu'l Rahamin in this year What he's doing is trying to free up those resources So that people in their respective countries and their respective locales and their villages and their cities and their communities Can have lights Can have paved roads can have shoes can have clothes I ask yourself. I think that tells us everything we need to know about this world is that african countries produce all the natural resources That govern the way of life for the globe Yet the masses of african people Whether you're talking about in america where you're talking about angana nigeria niger mozan beak ethiopia Eritrea the masses of the african people live in squalor Even here in our domestic colonization, they pop off off our backs Straight up Off our backs think about the people who drive you drive around all day. Are you working at tesla and that amazon factory all day? And jeff bezos and elan must catch planes from san francisco to san ozay On the yachts super yachts. How is that okay? Like just like how was that okay on a basic level because they had the idea No, if you look at where they money come from A part-time south african and these these people why these people even have the ideas They just had the money they had the capital and where did they get that capital? Where did you almost get his capital from a part-time south africa? enslaved african labor That should really be racking my brain bro that france gets to controls niger's natural resources they get That yeah, like if you think about if you just even if you look at a map and you say any point at france Then you point at niger and you say this place controls all of the electricity all of the resources of this place And we think that's okay You feel me why? They when they was pushing it they were saying oh, they were coming to civilize them We're coming to save them to develop them if my development That's what development is on on it yeah, well it's gonna be a Root awakening for french for the france nation My last thing I would say of what this what these coups and shit mean. I think it's a reminder Q mentioned this right In this in his cadre talks, but like a reminder of the bridge that needs to be built the same way you would get like a a morris bishop Going to harlem a seco to ray right like Or we was uh, even just looking at this snitch from Who worked for the fbi during and was like infiltrating the blackpink the party Right. He was saying that you know be bobby seal sitting down and in a member of the red guard from china will come like We as new africans is you know as people from people's programs might be listening to this or different organizations listening to this We got to build something That can catch the attention of These african leaders the same way they are building things that are catching our attention Like what would it mean to get ibrahim traori over here? Yeah, okay Feel me like brothers what we build and come speak to the people Come come to mac and speak, you know, and shit wrong with the king came to oakland Karmatara came to oakland Greatest god king came to oakland. You feel me like what do like what do we build? Well, we gotta ask what do we build around here to make these for these africans for all these pan africans That so-called exists in the united states What do we build in the show that we serious out here Besides just you know sending money to the continent all the time like it's africans here that we could be building with millions africans You feel me million literally millions 40 of them 40 million africans here that we could be building with you know, I'm saying Like so, what are we doing to uh build and show that's the panthers did they show like now? We got a real movie. That's what the nation is laundry. We got something real out here We doing with land bread and housing You feel me so it's organization. I think we are on a cusp of that You know to where we like a look brother. That's how much our little acre of land is yielding Every year this is how many how many meals we provide this is how this is our contract This is our numbers like come over here and let's start to build but that that's what this reminds me of us As you see are you talking about federations that could be built where you see? Bikini for sour and molly saying now we support nijir and nijir. You know, uh Start up bro. We gotta have that we all come to california second biggest port on the west coast you know i'm saying like We talked about we actually able to seize type of infrastructure and actually build and develop resources Bro, we we we talk about trade the potential of trade It's a big deal No, are you right, bro? We gotta think that way. We ain't thinking that way. We're still gonna fall victim Fall victim to what's about to happen in 2024 as this what um What should new africans be on to look for like how do you expect them to once again? manufacture and engineer democracy participation of new africans and they own neocolonial subjugation Well, I think something that's interesting right now is that America is unified right the democratic and republican party they they unify on certain principles, right? But even amongst the that unification and then handshakes like there's still different factions Within this government structure in my opinion, right? So we're seeing this right now with You know all these uh arresting trump and you know, obviously he's doing shit But he's been doing shit just like every other president For being honest either you feel me? So I think right now it's kind of like this uh democratic Hunt on trump and charge them with all these things because they know what's about to happen in 2024 They see an n ran a poll saying that if donald trump was going if the election was right now 50 percent of america will vote for donald trump That's a problem for the democratic party Right, that's a problem for a joe biden who can't even speak for himself That's a problem for them, right? So what they're doing is like hey, we got to get we got to figure out a way to try to get trump out of the way In my opinion, uh, so taking that now they also have to figure out a way to get this so-called progressive to go So-called get this black vote again Right, uh, so what I think we have to be aware of is every time Every election year there's going to be some type of strategy that they use to get our votes That's just basic politics. That's basic political science They always look at the black vote as this one block and how can this black vote Essentially help swing this election to our favor. Yeah, right? What they did in the past, you know, they used uh Progressives to and they use bernie sanders to get all the people, you know to get these uh, so-called progressive black vote Towards the democratic party which ended up voting for who joe biden which ended up using what kamala harris who was a black cop Uh, a black da you feel be a black attorney general, right? That was able to garner up the black vote. They use bernie sanders, you know, bernie sanders had a cornel west as his lackey had some of these other Organizers black organizers as they lackey you feel me you had even you know, I think carol five was a surrogate for him or you had a Phil agnew as a surrogate. So you have these like black, uh, you know people doing a job for him to get people curtailed into the Democratic party So I think we're seeing the same strategy being used but the strategy is a little bit different this year if you look historically Cornell west he has always Said all I am, you know brothers and sisters. I'm against the democrats. I'm against the but he ends up supporting the democratic party He was a surrogate literally for bernie sanders and then he's like, ah I have just you know disagreements with my brother joe biden, but he's our best option like man That's why that means what you're content you're curtailing all this energy for the democratic party So we're seeing the same thing with him running for president He's trying to get uh the black voter engaged in a certain type of way because the black voter is Kind of moving away from this engagement of the democratic party. Some people are going to To the republicans, right and some people just amen. What is this? It ain't in our interest. So he's curtailing the vote Um, ultimately in my opinion what he's gonna do is been to nominate the democratic frontrunner in this Half hazard thing. Oh, we have no other option. We got to stop trump. But what we're seeing too now is Organizations get behind it to some degree and prop cornell west up, right? We're seeing these so-called leftists prop cornell west up What does that mean? You know, uh under this notion of uh democratic socialism of installing democracy of getting power You know, so we have all these people who came into their organizations are instead of beliefs based off of like 2020 You know, I'm saying so now we're seeing, you know, these organizations start to push Uh Cornell west to a certain degree organizations starting to push and you see the language of like, uh, what is true democracy? You know, I'm saying we're seeing all that election type of shit But with that the democratic party is throwing money at this year To push it in you know, I'm saying to push it uh to the agenda Of the people and of organizations and the name of quote-unquote eventually stopping trump again So it's a interesting Uh What I would say a counter insurgent strategy for the democratic party again and again And now it's going to we're going to go back to the same. Oh, if you don't vote I don't want to hear anything about it. You know, I'm saying like, oh, if you didn't stop trump I don't want to hear you complain. It's just all these reactionary texts is going to be happening around it so 2024 though is going to be interesting just because you have What we're seeing is, you know, like the arrest of trump is a strategy on the democratic party I would say But that strategy is actually in my opinion going to backfire and further galvanize Uh, these right wing conspiracy theorists, um, and they're gonna further organize Oh, you see you see trump get arrested. Do I think the there's a connection between what happened in jacksonville and the shootings? Yeah It's a response. So it's like, uh, a trump will get arrested and then trump will, you know, post his mug shot and saying We got to stop tyranny We got to stop putting them Steel elections and then what does the far right do they go attack and kill black people? You feel me like And it's the democratic party helping orchestrate this So for us, it means that we have to be organized On the most basic levels We need to become organized to be able to defend ourselves and protect ourselves from both reactionary elements What is the reactionary democratic party or the reactionary grand old party? You feel me and we got to be able to identify what's going on identify these actors that is like claiming to be for black liberation, but then is pushing Pushing a power to that ultimately supports the quote-unquote democracy of the west We got to be able to identify that. Yeah I'm always truly amazed at How They are able to manipulate this shit every four years like it's not it's like I guess uh the manifestation of Manufacturing democracy democratic quote-unquote democratic participation tends to shift but like The end result is always the end result We got these different people running with the green party or running independent or whatever to create new shit You always get the celebrity that announces i'm about to run like this shit happens every four years And then you get the Then you get the final The final result is everyone lobbying behind one Is pushing a democrat all these quote-unquote left this shit is pushing a democrat and then these organizations go back to pad their Entourage the groups that were that are fed up now the uh, the new revolutionary consciousness that is developed as a result of realizing right the people who come into consciousness Every four years or so every eight years who come into consciousness based off of they're realizing the sham democratic process that is electoral politics in this country I'll be amazed at it. It's It's a very well oiled machine Very well oiled machine. They're very strategic and they're utilizing everything at their disposal from data to algorithms to thought trends To say these are people who have like a monopoly on all information So they know how to use it and how to manipulate this information at any given moment It's down to science like literally I took a I took a class in college and one of my professors. He was a Like he ran campaigns for a living and like they would break it down to a literally percentages as sciences and be able to predict Uh behaviors and voting trends and voting patterns and they knew if we said this word here That 30 percent of people here would vote for this, you know, so like We got to understand that what's happening and what's coming towards us is a part of a strategy It isn't something that's coming out of thin air like this is all a part of A certain plan in trying to follow a plan to achieve a certain type of goal. This is what they do They make their living off it So It ain't an alarmist but I mean it's a lot of It is an alarmist actually like it's it's actually if we look at what's going on Especially in the global world if we understand BRICS if we understand this russian special operation in ukraine if we understand What's happening in syria if we understand all that's happening right now is like the The war drums from the west are beaten the war will you feel me like they're preparing for war I'll say somebody has to pay for war somebody has to pay for their Decrease in profit This is what it's all coming down to it's all about profit So who can put us who can lead the nation to the most profit is if it's the republican party We're gonna put a republican in there if it's a democrat we're gonna put a democrat in there Whoever ends up in there their ultimate goal is to increase profit and dominance for the united states of america And so where you have these This shift to a multipolar world happening the us still has their profit margins that they're going to try to create So it's going to be more people in jail here or the cost of living is going go and the cost of living is going up and what Saves a presidency War yeah War War that's what saves the presidency if they don't think joe biden can get elected if they think the numbers is bad They're gonna kick off a war the war's already started. It's already you feel me. They're already, you know, and you crane, you know I'm saying but they're gonna kick something off bigger What's what's going on george busch? Hey, we need to keep our control and we got to get these profits back up And the democrats don't want trump at the head of this So we got to be prepared and we got to build programs, especially as We know what's going to happen with this economy, you know the basic needs of people The cost of living is going up more and more and more while the wages are staying the same and fashion is happening The wages are staying the same so The program the organization the revolutionary cadre organization needs to be prepared for these conditions that are going to shift that are shifting We have to be able to defend ourselves from a self-defense standpoint I'm not saying going on defensive, but we have to understand what's going on right now Is that they are planning the rightest planning and there's going to be Uh, you know, we've seen this historically terrorist attacks from them It's always been terrorism police terrorism, you know, but we're going to see these far-right vigilante terrorist attacks That's what's happening when they go in and shoot them up. So that's terrorism Without question. They just know mass shooting. That's terrorism. Let history be your guide, too You saw like, oh, I'm not trying to be alarmist. Uh, I mean you sounding the alarm based off of historical facts And what has happened what has happened every time something has happened against trump against trump his vigilantes respond You move him out of office January 6th happens you arrest him the shooting in Jacksonville happens is this is just what It's the ritual we would do ourselves a favor to learn Learn learn what happens Look analyze start to analyze and ask yourself what has changed since Joe Biden has become president The cost of living ain't going down our collective experience in this nation It's the same. We're still in jail. We still sleep on the streets. We still wake up every day questioning our our meaning It's the same shit happen, so more police, you know, more money given to Ukraine more money given to the military Joe Biden's America so just It may feel like there's no other option like that's what that's what they want us to believe That's why you get the democrats saying or you get these uh, Cornell West, you know What he's gonna do the same thing he did for bernie and biden and say we got a vote for the lesser two evils But there are other options out there The people's other option Investing get in touch with the masses organizing doing that real grassroots work And the grassroots organizations who don't start off as grassroots organizations and then turn into lobbying for political candidates Talk about them people who stayed on the ground Who was on the ground in 2016? Who was on the ground in 2018? Who was on the ground in 2020? 2021, 2020, 2020, 2022, 2023, you know Organized man. Have a black