 Well, I'd like to welcome everyone and and I hope everyone had a chance for a bullet children. Thank you, man. There's plenty left. So if you guys want to take home, please feel free. And so we're going to start as we often do with introductions. So we're going to change up a little bit and start with the people online. So CJ or first. Alright, thank you. Hello. My name is CJ Nudson from the Vermont Lake Monsters. Sophie. Hi, I'm Sophie Quest and with the old East End and live on Chase Street. Troy. Hello. Hello, Troy Hedrick. I live on Billidoo Court and am also one of two state reps for this district. Earhart. Hi folks. This is Earhart Makka over at 60 Grove Street, part of the old East End. Sorry, I can't join you in person tonight. And Jean. Hi, I'm Jean. I'm at co-housing on East Ev. Alright, and then we have a number of people here. We do have microphones around. So I've got one right here. Sharon Buescher live on East Avenue. Thanks. Joel Colada, 20 Chase Street, old East End. Samantha Ayotte, 20 Chase Street, an old East End. Hi, I'm Dave Collie. I live on Nash Place, also part of the old East End. I'm Fletcher Pratt. I live on Riverside Ave in Ward 1. Catherine Bach. I live upstairs in this house. Hi, I'm Barbara Shaw-Dorso. I work at the Burlington Community Justice Center and I live in the South End. Hi, Thomas De Sisto. I live on Germaine Street, which I suppose is the graveyard district. Gary Golden on Clarko Court. Hi, I'm Carol Livingston. I'm on the steering committee for Ward 1 NPA and I live with Gary on Clarko Court, which I think is still part of the old East End. I'm Jonathan Chappell Sokol. I'm one of the members of the steering committee and I live on North Prospect Street, which I think is part of the old East End of the old North End. Hi, I'm Angie Chappell Sokol. I live on North Prospect with that guy. Hi, I'm Catherine Vermann. I live on North Street, upper North Street. I don't know what end it's in. I'm Karen Long. I live on Henry Street. That's okay, we'll keep this one. Richard Hilliard, High Grove Court, which is over there. Sarah Flash off of East Avenue. Carter Nubizer, I'm on the NPA and I'm on Colchester F. Thanks. Hi. I did what I think I failed to do almost every day and that's introduced myself. My name is Tom Darenthal. I live on Nash Place. I have the privilege of living right next to Dave and so with that I think we have some announcements. CJ, you wanted to make an announcement? I can't. Okay, I got to unmute myself. Thank you. Thanks very much for having me tonight. I just wanted to take a few minutes to talk about the upcoming baseball season for the Vermont Lake Monsters and thank you guys for your support. We kick off our home opener this year on May 24th as our home opener. We wrap up our regular season on Friday, August 5th. Hopefully we make the playoffs again. If we do, we'll wrap up around August 11th or 12th. We won the championship in 2021, which was the first time since 1996. Made it to game three of the finals last year and lost in the battle of the ninth, which was a bummer but that's why we play them. And the new exciting thing for us this year and really for the entire community is we were selected to host the All-Star game. So we're going to host the All-Star game on Tuesday, July 25th. The last time there's an All-Star game at Centennial Field was July 14th, 1986. So about 37 years. So that'll take place on Tuesday, July 25th. The day before we're going to have a home run derby on that Monday followed by an on-field concert which will last about an hour or so. And it should be a great community event. People will be traveling in from all over the country and obviously from Vermont to cheer on the best baseball players in the league. We plan on doing a post-game fireworks show on that Tuesday, which is the 25th. And then we'd like to do three additional fireworks shows throughout the course of the season. The first one being Saturday, June 3rd. The second one being Saturday, June 24th. The third one being Saturday, July 15th. And then the one following the home run derby on July 25th. We continue to offer great promotions at the ballpark, drawing in families, kids eat free every Wednesday, post-game have a catch on Sundays for the kids, re-face painting and continue to do a lot of give community service. This week we announced a partnership with Vermont Food Bank to help raise funds and awareness for them all summer to help with food insecurity. So on our roster right now we have four or five Vermonters, which is fantastic. We had Vermonters on there in 2021, which was a huge success. We had 11 Vermonters last year. We had eight and this in being in this league, it allows us to literally have local players and players from Vermont to play for the lake monsters. So we're looking forward to having a really exciting season here jam packed with a lot of fun and affordable entertainment for families. All right, thanks CJ. Thank you. Barbara? Can I answer any questions at all or no? Questions? Sharon's got a question here. Hi Sharon. Hi, it's great to see you. So besides Front Porch Forum, how are you going to communicate to the neighborhood about the fireworks? We've been using the Front Porch Forum, but we can use additional means if you'd like as well, so whatever your preference is. So it's not my preference as much as just making sure that the neighbors, there are some neighbors that have animals and are very sensitive to this and so I feel that when we give them a heads up, they're happier to know that and can accommodate better. So that's all and however you want to make that work, I don't know. I'm not looking to create problems for you, but I am trying to get that word out. Definitely. Yeah, I think what we'll do is we'll think about it. Do you think if we posted lawn signs a day or two in advance around the neighborhood, do you think that would have an impact at all or no? I think people do read the signs if the signs are left up. I think that would be one way and if it doesn't work that first time, if you get complaints, then you can rethink. Definitely. I appreciate that feedback. Thank you. I'd just like to endorse the quality of the entertainment at the Lake Monsters. It's a load of fun, any evening for whatever generation you might be. I go with my daughter quite a bit, walk there and it is a blast. So if you're looking for something to do on a nice evening in the summer, it is a great way to spend two or three hours. Thank you, CJ, for keeping the whole thing going. Thank you, Richard. We love being here and we love the support you guys have given us. Literally, it's been around since 1994. So it's been around for a little while now and I think we're just really excited that the fans are coming out to the ballpark cheering on the team, not only from Burlington, from Chittin County and surrounding and we're ecstatic that it's players from Vermont as well playing for us now. So and for us to have the all-star game, that's going to have an economic impact in the community and we're excited about the upcoming season here. All right, thanks. Any other comments? Dave? I have an announcement. Okay, Barbara? Yep. You had an announcement. I do. Want to grab a microphone? Is there one in the area? Thank you. So thank you everyone for giving me a few minutes to talk about our new conflict assistance program or CAP at the Burlington Community Justice Center. We offer formal mediation, restorative dialogue, just talking with someone who will listen or something else. I'm the CAP coordinator and my name is Barbara Chadorso. So, harking, noise disturbances, trash not being picked up, animal problems, getting off on the wrong foot with your neighbor, piling the snow up in your driveway, too many cars in their yard, letting branches grow over into your part of the yard. These are all things that happen in community and there are also things that can impact your quality of life. They represent a breakdown in relationships, something that we talk about a lot in restorative practices, a tear in the fabric of community, as we often say. Oh, you think this is such a small thing. Why should I try to resolve it? I might even make things worse. Well, these small things can become assumptions that work on you, friction point that keeps you from feeling comfortable with your neighbor. The conflict assistance program here at the Burlington Community Justice Center can provide a safe and brave space to have conversation with your neighbor so that this situation doesn't escalate, a space that will allow you to get unstuck and go forward with some problems. A confidential space with an impartial facilitator, a space that supports all participants in making the community better. So what do I mean by making the community better or making your neighborhood better? That would be different for each one of us sitting here today. However, wouldn't it be nice to be happier in your relationships with your neighbors and in community? You're there for them, they're there for you. These are the sorts of relationship understandings that help bring people closer together to develop neighborhood and happier residents. This is our first self-referral program at the CJC. Anyone can reach out to me to cap for mediation services again, facilitation of difficult conversations, coaching, just talking. I'm going to leave some placards here if it's all right with everyone with my contact information, call, text, email. I'm receptive to all of them and responsive. I really would like to talk with you if you're experiencing some conflict in your life right now. Thanks again for your time. One question. So utilize those services. People have to go to church street on your location? A car. Do you ever go to? Yes, I do. I'm on the road too. So you do go to people's homes or? Uh-huh. Okay. Yes. Yeah. Very willing to connect with people where they want, wherever they're comfortable. That's the most important thing. Any other questions? Thanks. Thanks, Tom. A couple of things going on in the old east end that I wanted to let folks know about. We have partnered with the UVM Office of Student and Community Relations and the Burlington Parks and Recreation to put on a free event at Shemanska Park on May 4th. We're calling it take a break and it's a two hour time that folks can come down to the park and get some free Ben & Jerry's. So they're going to be scooping up free Ben & Jerry's there. We'll have some sports activities going on. So there'll be, you know, cornhole toss and basketball and pickleball. And we're also having a exhibit going on inside the barn at Shemanska Park, which are some posters, historic posters about the old east end that were done by UVM students. So we encourage everybody to come. We're looking for some nice weather to come. A couple other things that are going on. I've been working with a few folks and when we came into the understanding that this year, July 4th of this year, is the 150th anniversary of the dedication of the Ethan Allen Monument. It was a really big deal 150 years ago. They had like 2000 people come and a lot of officials from around the state and nationally came to that event. So I've been talking to a few of the historic societies as well as the parks and cemeteries about possibly putting on some kind of celebration, maybe this July 4th, to honor that and commemorate that event. So stay tuned. You'll be hearing more about it as things are getting underway. And finally, I want to say that I've been working with Joel and Sam on some projects to help take a better look at traffic and transportation safety in the neighborhood. I guess we're calling it the pedestrian powered neighborhood project. But what we're doing is we're going around and we're taking surveys. We're analyzing hot spots in the neighborhood. We're trying to envision ways that we can come up with more livable aspects to handling some of the traffic that's there. Over the last five years, the traffic volume coming down Patchin Road and Grove Street has really increased. Sometimes the speeds in that area are incredible as well. So we're working hand in hand with the Department of Public Works and we're going to be having some events that are coming up. So this will be taking place over the course of May, June and July this year. So we'll also keep you posted and stay tuned to some of those details. So that's that's my mind. That's it. Any questions? Hi, good evening. So as I stated in introductions, I live on East Avenue and on April 19th, which is a Wednesday at 630, the Department of Public Works commission meets and they're going to be discussing the pedestrian safety improvements for East Avenue. So there are a few people that this impacts directly, but a lot of you I just wanted people to know about it. The commission will actually vote that night to approve the recommendations. There will be some enhancements for crosswalks. There will also be some narrowing of the road and in doing that there will be a loss of 13 parking spaces. We've had a number of meetings with representatives from DPW to discuss this, but I wanted people to know and if if anybody is listening that lives on East Avenue that didn't get the flyer or didn't know about this, I urge them to go and speak to the commission in advance of the vote. And the meeting, as I said, starts at 630. As I recall, that's a hybrid meeting so I believe you can zoom in or call in. So that's number one. The second thing is something that I wanted to share with all of you and I'm sad to report that we've lost somebody in our ward that has been here and been a vocal person and someone that has interacted with us for years and years. Jared Wood passed away on on March 20th and for some people you don't know him for others. You know him very well and the family is very private and so I reached out to his wife to ask her permission to share this news with all of you and she gave that to me but she said please ask them to respect our privacy and I said I certainly would. I said I encouraged her to let me do this. I said because people, he was a presence, a force of nature and I think the thing that we could all do to really remember Jared is to work really hard to improve pedestrian safety. He was the biggest advocate for getting people around safely and so you know there's the bike walk council and and Cyril knows that I always think it's been you know the the walk part hasn't been paid attention to enough. I feel the bike part has had a lot of attention so I really want people to really think about ways that we can move people around safely not only in his memory but for all of our well-being so thank you all and I'm very sad about someone that I've stayed connected to for all the years that I've lived here so anyways thank you. Thanks. That was exactly what I was going to say that yeah Jared lived across the street from us and he was he continued Jonathan knew too. He would call me every week before an MPA would you please say such you know I mean he couldn't come in the last few years but he stayed really connected and he was a big walker when he could and he really cared about pedestrian safety so that was the one thing and then I did want to ask Sharon if she could share about Trinity campus because I understood you went to the meeting. I couldn't go to there was a meeting for graduate students about you know developments with Trinity. Those were my things I was going to ask. So one of the one of our residents is a professor at UVM and and let let people know about this meeting it was for graduate students and the meeting was focused on what kind of housing they wanted what they'd be satisfied with affordability was a big issue for them as no everyone can imagine there was a statement about the fact that they would be happy they would be sat not happy they would be satisfied with a unit that was 350 square feet but they also and I've seen those units Eric Farrell has those out on North Avenue that's the only reason why and I know it's livable I wouldn't have known that unless I saw that unit but anyways having said that but they wanted it at a price of about $800 and some of those units go for like 12 15 1700 dollars so they weren't that didn't appeal to them they also don't want to be merged in with undergrads this was very important they wanted to be in a community of graduate students or or or a mixed community but not really mixed in with undergrads they have a different outlook they're focused different and so that was another takeaway the disappointing statement was that the vice president Richard Kate was there and I was incredibly disappointed I've shared this with one city counselor but I see that I think that Zariah is on yes there you are and I anyways Richard Kate said to this group of graduate students that that you know they were whole we were the city was holding up UVM from developing Trinity campus um and that UVM had kept pace with the housing and the enrollment which I don't think is actually factual but the other thing that he said was that the city has laid there meaning our housing crisis at the feet of UVM and told UVM to solve the city's housing crisis which was and I heard that with my own ears and I was I was really angry and I was mad I was angry and disappointed that somebody at that level would be saying that to a group of graduate students and I don't know who else was on because it was a zoom phone call so um so I know that they're and I'm sure that our counselor will know more than I do but I I'm understanding that there are the the mayor and and UVM administration are going to begin or have begun some talks about how we get off of where we are right now um with this stalemate um so that's all I wanted to share um but I was very disappointed at the the words that came out of the vice president's mouth. Thanks Sharon. I if you haven't guessed we have merged um announcements and speak out so are there other people that want to speak and speak up? I don't and uh Earhart I see your hands up. Thanks Tom. Wow um I did not know that Jared had passed away um thanks for letting us know Sharon. Jared um was for many years our next door neighbor and up until recently I would get those weekly or sometimes bi-weekly calls from Jared as well. They usually weren't about neighborhood concerns but um about more more global and international concerns for folks who didn't know Jared he used to work for USAID in Central America and had a lot of concerns about U.S. policy and how he's really messed things up in Central America. Um wow I'm really sad I'm really saddened to hear that he's passed on. He was for folks who didn't know him he was just one of the most civically engaged folks that you could well imagine cared deeply about the neighborhoods, cared deeply about just many things and paid a lot of attention to a lot of the details that really make neighborhoods and make Burlington more livable as well as those details that detract from that livability for which he was just a perennial advocate to try and change things to make make our neighborhoods more livable. So personally I know Sydney and I are both really saddened to hear that Jared passed. I know he was getting up there in years and had been not well for the last few years but for those those folks who got phone calls from him it was it was always just really sweet to talk to Jared and there's concerns. In terms of speak out I did have something I want to raise which I you know it's been in the news. I was debating whether or not to raise this but I just feel like I have to say something about Chief Murad's behavior and the complaint that was filed against him last August by a surgeon an ER emergency room surgeon. I assume folks are aware of what's been in the papers and I just want to say that you know from what I've read if all of that is is is accurate and I have no reason to believe that the surgeon that filed the complaint and that was reported in in seven days was inaccurate in any way or embellished anything that they that they said there were you know a resident was a witness to all that and confirmed it. I just want to say that I find all that to be an absolutely stunning lapse of judgment on behalf of our chief of police our interim chief and I'm just appalled that he would interfere with the medical care of a gunshot victim. This was a victim it was not somebody who was suspected as a perpetrator but a victim and to interfere with their their care a gunshot victim's care in the emergency room is it's just it's just unpardonable to me. I understand he apologized but you know apologies for stunning lapses of judgment are just not enough and I think he he's really virtually disqualified himself from being appointed as as permanent chief which I know that our mayor still plans to do now that he has a majority on the city council. I am also deeply deeply concerned that the city council was not notified about any of these complaints until December and and then further concerned that there was no public notice of any of this before the march vote on on the citizens oversight charter change. I just that's an that was an odd keeping this information secret from the city council and from the public at large is obviously a very political move on behalf of the mayor and I'm just I'm just appalled by the whole thing and frankly I'm I'm fearful because you know there many citizens many people in our community that do not trust the police and this is just you know the politicization of public safety in our community has just really spiraled downwards into a very very bad situation and I I'm just really sorry for it that it's come to this and I'm I'm I'm deeply upset by it and I'm deeply upset for our citizens of color who do not many of whom do not trust the police and this behavior by our our our interim chief just further underlines that so I'll get it off myself so box I just feel like I just felt compelled that I need to share my feelings with with folks about this thank you for listening. Thanks very hard. I'm not aware of what he's talking about. Can you give a like? I'm just not aware of this what he's speaking of. All I can tell I all I know is what I read in Digger in Vermont Digger and so there is is or seven days to just seven days seven days actually has much better coverage they're the ones that uncovered this they got you know the most recent article. Okay I think I think if you read that it'll give you a fair amount of background. Yes. Yes if we there's a mic somewhere. Thanks I'm Cheryl Green. I just want to follow up on what Earhart was saying I've been thinking a lot about this too and for me the issue of de-escalation is extremely important in terms of working with people like Barbara was saying in terms of her social justice work and I I'm very concerned that this is a person who doesn't understand how to de-escalate himself in a stressful situation like that thought a lot about the surgeon trying to go into the surgery having just experienced that stress and I know that women on the police commission also received an apology from him because of his behavior toward them in a commission meeting so I'm I'm also very concerned about that and feel like we need to have a person in that position who understands de-escalation internally as well as his capacity to train other people so that's what I wanted to say thank you. Thanks. Any any other comments? Well yeah just Earhart got on a soapbox so I figured I had to as well. Well yeah I mean I don't I just on the mirror at stuff it's it's for me it's disqualifying not this one instance like we're all human and can have bad moments I've had plenty of bad moments like everybody does in life but it's a pattern of not being willing as someone in a executive position or someone who has a lot of authority over our public safety system of like not being willing to reflect on those and change and this is someone who still to this day does not acknowledge that there's racial bias in policing in the Burlington Police Department I mean that's his position and he's been pressed on that over and over and over and does not think that racial bias exists so for me it's like it's just one in a line of things that makes me really concerned and you know and and it's also fair I've heard people say like well you know we're not gonna find a better police chief and I don't know if that's true or not but I think it's a race to the bottom mentality but not too long but soapbox this time so I got thanks any uh any other comments you got a like yeah I'm sorry I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to put myself in a dangerous situation here right now because I'm gonna say something a little different from what everybody else has said and it's really it's a it's a request for understanding I don't I don't disagree with the principles that any of you have raised right now I think everything you're saying makes a lot of sense all I know about this case is what Courtney Landon wrote in the paper and I personally don't find Courtney the most unbiased of reporters of journalists that's my opinion this is in front of the of the criminal justice council at the state and I don't really know what the criminal justice council state is but maybe we should let them do their work if there's reasons why we think they're incapable of doing their work then that's important you could educate me on that because I don't I don't know but if this is in the middle it's like in the middle of an investigation maybe we should wait and see what the investment the outcome of the investigation is that's not to say I think that Courtney's lying in the article it's just that this is an ongoing thing we should get some answers from the people who are really looking into it we're supposed to be impartially looking into it those are my two cents thanks Jonathan can I change the subject or are we still on this subject okay this is really trivial compared to what we just talked about but I walk the neighborhoods all over the place and there is an incredible amount of litter and garbage all through the neighborhoods and I know there's a certain time when the neighborhoods are cleaned up or and I'm wondering when that is and if we could not till May oh my god it's going to be it's going to be 75 tomorrow it's bad it's bad so if I could do a plea that maybe I can can I ask a question do you tend to see it more on days that people have recycling out because on my street when on recycling days there's a tendency to see things when wind will pick up things yeah around and so you tend to see a little bit more yeah that that is true and also god come the time that the students move out it's really bad but um I think it's just that the snow cover is melted and there's a lot of stuff that's been there for a long time and it's not always just on the greenways or anything it's you know it's anyway I would love it if we could say okay April 20th we're going to go clean up Burlington or I think we're going to want to put that on his list I was going to say yeah later on today yes back here okay Carter maybe maybe you know hey Carter maybe organizing a super green up day for Ward yeah um all right this is last call for speak out one thing about the trash stuff though because this has been a pet peeve of mine for 30 years 40 years but we have this new law about toasters everyone has to have the blue toasters with the cover right from I don't know May 1st or something like that which I think is good I like that they'll be covered and less stuff blowing around but in the ordinance the city ordinance it says trash and recycling is to be put out on the day of pickup and then those toasters are supposed to be removed and out of sight now that is not happening it has not been happening for many many years and it's gotten far worse in like rental neighborhoods like lower loomis union north willard things are not supposed to be stored on the green belt or the side next to sidewalk 24 7 and you know I try to get code to do something about this but I think as a whole community and I've heard people in south union complaining about this too now that we have these blue toasters that are so big and they're being stored on the green belt but that's something it's against the law and if we as a whole community ask our city you know dpw or code or whoever can do it to enforce the law there'll be less trash I mean I just I'm always appalled at the marathon how our city looks when we have the marathon because all that trash that's been under the snow is still there it's really embarrassing to have guests come walk down to see the marathon and what the you know what you see from Henry street down to where the people are running is horrible so anyway thank you I think we should have a green up sooner than May 6 and ask the city to enforce their ordinance about toasters being out of sight again the after the day of pickup thank you all right i also and this may be part of what we talk about later with Carter's help is what is we can call city departments and say get on that or you carry a garbage bag with you when you go for a walk I mean that's some of it too and I get that it's frustrating and get it's a mess I'm gonna guess they're needles in some play I'm gonna get that but to some degree I think there's something we need to think about is just what's my responsibility for my neighborhood and we do we pick up crap all the time when we're walking the dogs we just do that and then the next time I walk I don't see anything and so that's a pleasure for me so I think it's something we think about with a number of these issues is what what is my responsibility as a member of this community as well as a taxpayer so I just think that's something we need to think about that dynamic thanks girl all right this is this is the final last call or speak out and don't get me wrong I think we said oh very hard you're up but we gotta be quick just just real quick you know personally I mean I think the toasters are probably a good thing for larger rental properties but we have a duplex we having this huge plastic thing is just I we don't need more plastic in the world and I just think they're outsized for smaller smaller apartments for duplexes and triplexes that just don't have that same level of need thanks all right thank you thanks air hard Troy I see that you've probably had your hand up for a bit uh yeah just a quick little screen share here I just wanted to let Sharon know that I can validate that her concerns are are accurate um UVM may be misrepresenting their enrollment data I don't know if you're seeing my screen or not but um we see hold on you're not see or we don't see anything you're sharing hold on I'm about to um this is the data um you're not you're not out of whack um this is not the city I I I've done some work on this I put it into the mill here's where UVM built U U Heights south uh the U Heights uh here's the enrollment five years later here's where UVM open CCRH here's the enrollment five years later that's the trend I just wanted to share that yeah that's it's a problem that's all all right thanks uh we're gonna move on uh I apologize because I'm a really bad uh timekeeper here but we do have to move on to city council updates and uh Zariah do you want to start yes um and I'm oh I'm going to break my own rule I'm like I'm always going to keep it to like three things but then you talk about things during speak out and I'm like I feel like I have to address that so I'm going to start with acting chief Mirad who say it again no I'm trying to get people to be quieter on this end so we can hear you okay um with acting chief Mirad which um I I think I agree with some sides that are maybe not on my side of the table it's like I don't think this automatically disqualifies him and I still have a lot of respect for John Mirad but at the same time for me I think the bigger concern is that this I do think this is a systemic issue I think that this is something we've seen um with multiple people now is that when his authority is questioned he very much chooses to double down this was some this like the when I last voted on his appointment and I tried to come to compromise with the mayor one of the things I asked for was that the mayor sets forward a plan to work with him on this the mayor decides said no deal that we're not doing this um and I think for me the second problem is that I don't trust the mayor to um when choosing between chiefs and choosing between transparency with the public and in choosing to create some kind of performance with chiefs I just don't think the management is there either so I haven't seen I don't think the mayor's given the council any information on how this issue has or will be addressed I think that he continues to choose um his appointees over transparency with the public the media or even the council again I think he chooses to tell us very little when he does he does it in a way that is that we're that we are told we cannot share without you know being legally liable which I think is problematic so I just think that there's that is my problem and then the criminal justice council I think this year for the first time maybe um voted to discipline um officers um for their first offense so it is generally seen as a non as a pretty biased body it is not seen as a it is I would say it is more biased than the folks in this room so I don't know that that is the holdout of what we should be waiting for for an investigation especially because if they um it is my understanding that unless they provide discipline there will be no public um disclosure of information so um just want to make sure that that's known in the room um so I will leave that there but I think my opinion has not changed on I think the thing that is disqualifying to me is having a police chief that says that racial bias isn't a thing in the burlington police department that for me is the disqualifying thing and then again I would want to know that some of these issues that he has a manager who's actively working to see that those are being addressed um that's not his problem so much as the mayor's problem but that's neither here nor there now I will change to some of the other things on announcements Trini campus um Sharon Busher I think mentioned this you'll know how I feel about Richard Kate I'm sorry it's sad to hear that I think the council's been very very clear with UVM that we do not think that they are the problem but that we want them to be a partner in the solution and therefore we need them to come to the table um disappointed but not surprised to hear it phrased differently um there is movement in terms of potentially sitting down with the mayor I do think the mayor isn't quite as rigorous on this as maybe the council as a body so um I think just hope that folks continue to stay um on him and on the council on making sure that if there is an MOU that it kind of meets her minimum requirements um especially because they do think um per Troy's point UVM has been pushing a narrative now that they've been keeping pace with beds which beds may be true but that's not quite the same thing as building new housing or having housing keep pace um as we know with the force triples so more bad news um the memorial auditorium I think you all have heard but I just want to make sure there were two proposals for memorial auditorium one was um kind of repealed after folks did more due diligence on their finances and the other one was for housing um which just wasn't a feasible proposal in terms of their cost estimates I don't know that much about building housing but I looked at it and I was like this doesn't seem realistic um and so we're reopening the proposal if folks want to speak to I think one of the questions that the council has is we're definitely hoping to open it up a little bit more I think the first proposal kind of had all of the hopes and dreams on what the community really wanted to see in the proposal like here's the survey that we did folks wanted to be a public space a performance space we wanted to stay in city ownership um and we're realizing we can't like as the longer memorial sits the less we're probably going to get all of our wishes um my condition that I left on the table is even if it's a 99 year lease I don't want to see it sold I would rather just see it rented I don't think we should be getting rid of public property um 99 year lease is already hard to swallow but I think a sale would be hard um if folks have any other kind of minimum conditions they want to point out feel free to email me feel free to speak them into the room whatever works and I'll do one more kind of longer item and then two just this is happening um so I think folks have heard me talk about this but just to throw the numbers out there again in 2019 we had 261 houses folks who were sheltered and 10 and sorry 48 were sheltered just just around 300 people last year we had 658 ancient county sorry is the frame of reference and 658 folks who were sheltered and 10 who were unsheltered so total of nearly 700 I bring this up for two reasons which is one I think this year to deal with how many folks are going to be unsheltered and what we want to do with that in a humane way because right now we don't that compared to our shelter capacity that means hundreds of more people um ancient county who don't legitimately don't have anywhere to go because the shelters will be far beyond capacity um and then the second thing is just a reminder that like folks are struggling I know a lot of us have been pretty resilient throughout this pandemic maybe or like livelihoods haven't changed that much but that's not true for everyone I think we sometimes forget that and just that folks are struggling mentally they're struggling financially um just a reminder to offer as much compassion to folks as possible and then the last two things are just that um charter change and ordinance which I'm on the ordinance which I will remain on the ordinance committee are going to be looking at south end rezoning so there's a big south end rezoning project um to allow all kinds of development there and I'll give a more comprehensive update in the coming weeks um and then we're also going to be looking at oversight because almost every counselor and the mayor have said for years that we need oversight as we know the last one failed and so we're hoping to look at what oversight we can provide through the police commission which I do think is a good idea I think the police commission is the right body given all the work that they've already done on coming to learn their responsibilities and what is possible um to be an oversight body for the burlington police department sorry that was so much longer than I wanted to do it but hopefully that was helpful thanks Soraya uh any questions for Soraya Richard you got a mic there Soraya very very quickly about five years ago um the npa is organized a meeting on the future of memorial auditorium it was very well attended I'm thinking at least 100 people and went through the history and it was a wonderful meeting and I'm just wondering if the city council has ever considered any of the proposals that came out of that meeting yeah I think the I mean I that was I think that was the information that was summarized in what became kind of the annex to the proposal in terms of what folks wanted to see out of that space and I think that with the city having no more bonding capacity and nobody really being interested in doing some of those things in the building um I don't see like like I said I think the first RFP was like here's the city's hopes and dreams for what we want the building to be and I don't think we see a way that that's going to happen with like current material and construction costs yeah I was just surprised that the that the essence that came out of the meeting was never ever reconstituted but that was five years ago I guess no I think it I mean correct I wasn't at that meeting five years ago but at least like came out of like what we said this are the community's hopes and dreams was like that it should remain a public space to some extent that it should honor its function as a veteran memorial um that it should have some of that like I mean there were lots of things right it was just like oh it'd be nice if there were food meant like there were so many ideas that were in there but nobody's come forward to make any of those ideas a reality so I don't think it's that folks didn't know the ideas I think it's just there's not like the cost of first doing the building and then making that happen nobody seems to be interested in filling that role all right thanks anyone else it's all yours thanks um well my report is going to be much shorter than uh Zariah's because I've only been on the city council since uh last Monday and really my only official act so far has has um has been uh sworn in um has been sworn in um I have been doing some preliminary work oh I'm sorry I'm Tim Doherty um and I uh am your city council person for the east district as of last Monday um my apologies so so yeah so I haven't been a city council person for very long um but there has been a considerable amount and I'm sure Zariah went through this uh when she was first elected to of sort of preliminary meetings uh informational meetings um some of which I think pertained to some of the discussions that we've had um so for example yesterday I spent um uh an hour or two over at DPW um and discussed some of the issues uh with with uh them uh that have been raised here it was primarily an informational meeting for me um to learn what DPW does how it works you know how they interact with the city council how they perform their functions I had a similar similar informational meeting um on on the TIF development uh regions um bringing me up to speed on what those are I think all the new city council people have been through um these routines uh that was fascinating um on the TIF uh front it was something that I have not a tremendous amount of previous understanding of as to actually what goes into those funding mechanisms um uh and that there have been a couple more meetings like that um with respect to to DPW um I did raise because it's a number people have asked me about the trash uh issues um I did raise this with them um and um they uh talked a lot about their uh hope that the uh that the toters with the lids were going to make a difference um which I think that they probably will um I asked the question uh about enforcement um because it has been raised with me whether or not there has been a diminishment in enforcement on the requirement um that you know we we property owners bring the bins in um they didn't have the answer and they referred me to uh the enforcement folks so that's next on my list but it certainly seems to me that um there's a question about whether or not enforcement has declined uh and if it has uh why um which raised for me whether or not um there might be even some tinkering that we could perhaps do uh with the ordinances um so interested to hear about our our ideas in in the neighborhood and in terms of trash but it's clearly clearly a significant issue um the other big issue that that's been discussed is the issue with chief uh with acting chief murad um I did not know about this um of course well maybe not of course until um after I was uh elected in in the city council um so it's new information to me as of of last week I'm still getting up to speed on it um you know when I was running I I said repeatedly um that I I didn't didn't know uh how I was going to vote uh if the mayor brought the acting chief forward to the city council um I still don't know uh how I'm going to vote um it certainly seems to me uh that this issue is a really really serious one his conduct um as it's been described has been serious um I have not had the opportunity to hear his side uh of of what happened I don't know whether the city council has um or whether the police commission has either um obviously that's an important step in the process um and I think you know I think the city is facing a really again if if if the mayor brings uh acting chief murad forward for a vote I think we face a really really um significant uh grave uh decision um that has really significant consequences on both sides of the equation um I hear loud and clear the reservations that many people have about acting chief murad um and the basis for those um reservations I also think we have to balance um uh an assessment as to what the city will look like going forward for the next year or two um if we don't have a permanent police chief um and what those kinds of consequences um will mean um so that's a long way of saying uh you know I don't have a position yet uh one way or the other um and uh I think it's too too important a decision to rush so that's what I've been doing in terms of sort of getting oriented there's also just a tremendous amount of logistical orientation that I won't won't bother you with in terms of email getting email set up which I think I've successfully done getting all the paperwork in to become an official city employee um which has been and it's been really interesting and exciting to begin the process of meeting with all the city departments um and learning what they do um there's just a tremendous amount uh of nitty gritty work that goes into uh running uh a piece of infrastructure like our city um so those are my updates questions every question as far as litter and the totas um and I say this is a retired supply chain professional um dpw didn't order enough totas so they won't they won't all be in until June at least uh and meanwhile you stick with the blue bins and you won't get fined they did they did mention the the I forgot to mention they did mention to me this supply issue with respect to totas they also told me one other thing that I wasn't aware of um which is that not only uh did they move toward the totas in interest of keeping the recycling from blowing about our neighborhoods um but that they had uh that there had been injuries with respect to um the haulers pulling picking up the the topless bins and that because these can um work with the mechanized trucks they anticipated that it was going to be safer uh for folks which is which is not something that I knew or had thought of Karen thank you um yeah they had said that in their little postcards that they sent out about people were one of the you know one of the biggest issues was shoulder injuries with the haulers but the air hard there are three different sizes my understanding you can get a small medium or large blue shoulder blue covered one and they're all different prices um but I think that um it's just I think it's a great idea and I hope that they will just um keep them outside so that we don't have to have to each other all over the place oh I know that's insane they also are asking people to only put out the footage on their phone so that it will save time for their pickup people and I know on my street some people did put their photos out before they were full and they the collectors didn't take it and left a little note or hold them or whatever that so they're asking you fill the photos to the top and then put it out instead of them having to empty it when it's only a quarter full so that's yeah that's a good thing too I think less less traffic they should be able to get their job done quicker if they're not empty because they do have to hook it to the machine and then directly you know dump so yeah that was the other thing that dpw is full we about only putting out photos okay any other questions comments I have just a question um I'm just wondering if Saraya or Tim or anyone in the room knows um the appointment of a permanent police chief is that a like a career appointment or is it you know for five years and then it's reviewed or anything like that I just realized I don't I don't know about that at all I would defer to Saraya on that yeah it's um all uh I am struggling to remember if it's coded because I know for the city attorneys it is how many years they're appointed for but it definitely is a like usually the same term as the mayor so it's anywhere between two and three years as the appointment process for I think all of most of the department heads one to three years I should say thank you any other comments questions yes quick question just a quick question and it's um just about channels of communication to you I guess I'm just wondering I I'm sure you're just deluged with uh meeting with these city offices are you going to do something similar in terms of now that you're uh you know our elected representative are you going to be having like a listening tour similar for and then how might we plug into that yeah so you know one uh one one piece of my plan is to have sort of regular coffee hours and something that I wanted to talk to Saraya about to see if she was interested in I know Hannah King from the eighth ward is is interested in it um you know I've been asking people and and and you know maybe we can have this conversation afterwards but I've been asking people and I asked folks at the at the ward 8 NPA meeting that I was at last week or the week before you know what would what would be the best mechanism to have consistent regular communications with with me um about what's going on and also frankly candidly something that I can make sure that I can fit into my life because you know I want to make I want to make sure that I set up a system that I can stick to um as opposed to just you know trying to deal with things willy-nilly um certainly I know the the other city council most folks on the other on the city council have regular posting sort of you know legislative updates city council update on front porch forum you know I'm I'm committed to doing that uh on a monthly basis I think a monthly basis is probably adequate but you know happy to hear if people want more or maybe less with me um you know I I thought sort of office hours coffee hour you know either a house or you know would be a good idea but I want to make it mechanized and routinized and sort of systemic which isn't to say of course people shouldn't feel comfortable calling me and coming by and emailing me and texting me whenever they have an issue um of course um but I that was my first idea on that front but I'd be happy to hear more all right um we are going to move forward thank you very much can I move it cannot move all right have to stay now stay here um we're going to go to the school commissioner update where it's right here here's a mic it's a spot warm seat um good evening uh gary golden i'm also newly elected uh in my case as the esthetics school commission so um there are many things happening in the district and probably more than I can talk about because I don't want to rob too much of carter's time um if you are um if you've joined front porch forum I'm posting there after each of the board meetings I posted today I did not use my board um account so repost for those of you who aren't in my little corner of burlington um so that's sort of where it'd be easier for you to get a lot more information about what's going on than uh I'm going to be able to present uh in this setting um right off let me say I do also have a um email account and it's really simple g golden at bsd or burlington school district bt.org that's all in the front porch forum um I also posted um at length about the board meeting and also the covenant school shooting um in my case I'm a former school employee so I may get my I don't know if I'll get my hand slapped but uh I went into a little detail about what it means to be a school employee in an active shooting drill and what you and your students are going through because I think it's a pretty sanitized process on how the media covers it or what unless you know a teacher who's talked to you about what they've had to do it's it's a really scary and to some degree for the student is traumatizing experience because if you're doing it correctly the teacher doesn't know and the student definitely doesn't know so you are kind of sure it's a drill but you don't know and you're hiding and that's the point I was trying to make that we are actively hiding from someone harming us I'll let myself go into that so that's all in the letter I tried to sanitize it a little but that's there good news we I'll move on our department of justice review has been settled this is something that came out of the sustainability academy a few years back I've put links in the in my transcript about how you can get more information about that but it's really about bullying about harassment treatment of our global majority students and all those numbers are improving our equity report came out and is showing that we're really working hard to include the global majority and that's you know the I think a pretty appropriate term for our new americans our refugee population and really engaging them in the sort of upper end classes the advanced placement the honors classes I'm coming in underneath because my population was always the at-risk population and that's the next piece what are we doing for the students who may not be interested or may not need those classes but they need some tech education they need more practical experience across the board so I'll talk more about that as the the year goes next important meeting tomorrow night there's an open house with two new candidates for the VHS principal position all three of the candidates are sort of homegrown Milton Berry and then a new person is the principal at Hanover which is a shared state it's both Norwich Vermont and Hanover New Hampshire so it's going to be nice to have them coming out and knowing what being a principal in Vermont's about we've had several instances with our past superintendent where they he was not aware of Vermont law around schools and made some poor decisions around accreditation and reorganization we've got people kind of know the system a little better so though and those are the high points please look at my transcript please give me I also have a website that my daughter set up last night so there's a for the carters of the world who like to multitask there's a podcast of me really basically reading the my posting but you know if you're cooking you do like I do you're listening to something so you've got me for at least one night so any quick questions because we don't give Carter as much time as possible for the the exercise that's coming up thank you for taking the job oh it's actually my pleasure I'm a foreign employee here so I'm just probably the weirdest candidate or member that they've gotten in a while because I worked in four of the schools my daughter attended two more of them and Carol worked at another so I've had sort of direct contact with seven of the nine schools so they don't really know what to do with me yet kind of fun so thank you all for your support and please email or the phone numbers there I'll call you back I don't know about coffee times if I'm going to do that but I may do some meetups when particularly as budget season kicks off I want to give you as much information as I can about what that's going to look like with the bond and it's just going to be a medic so thank you all although the last item for tonight is a brainstorming discussion and Carter's going to lead that this is really to bring up projects that should be done in our award and possible towards the funding that was Carter yeah I'm going to hand the mic to you gotta get my script yeah so I missed last meeting so I missed kind of like the what gave rise to this but at the last MPA steering committee meeting we were thinking about like what could be projects with the goal of both doing something that's ward one specific so like in our neighborhood but also something that like we can get all get to know each other a little bit better have some fun MPA can be really fun it could also be kind of dry sometimes you know it doesn't always like lend itself to hanging out and getting to know people but we're changing that slowly but surely so this is what I'm gonna do there's a box of pencils here and there's basically just three questions we're trying to answer we're not trying to come to any decisions tonight just trying to think like big broad strokes what are some ideas it could be anything honestly like first question is just like use your imagination whether it's you know two examples were like the pathway over by the hospital like if we could just wave a magic wand wouldn't it be great to have a stairway up there from east Ave to the like up that hospital hill I know like is good like Brian Chena and a bunch of other folks do a bunch of planting with a bunch of different community partners of like you know neighborhood flower beds and sort of make the street look a little bit nicer get to know your neighbors while you do it and then it could be something like trendy campus like I think Jonathan or Tom I think you sent the email making the point that it could also be something like hey like we want to go all show up to this thing whatever it is so just think big picture all people can I'll pass it around we'll pass around this box with pencils you take a pencil um take a sticky pad and maybe split it in half if we need to share or share the sticky pads um write down your ideas we'll do like 10 minutes um and then right behind you Karen there's like an ideas you can't see it because I thankfully got a pen from or a marker later on but that butcher board right there is all the ideas and then we'll go through and sort of talk about like okay what's what can we actually achieve like what's in capacity what feels realistic and then what maybe not so much um or maybe is a much longer term kind of thing does that make sense to folks that is a great question I almost forgot you got me there um so Sam does not have a chat function on the zoom so he can't send you all a chat but if you're online if you do the q and a function and ask Sam a question it could just be like hey I want to participate um but if you message Sam he can respond with a google doc that we set up and all the prompt questions one through three are in there and so you just throw your ideas down and then afterward you know throughout the process and also afterward we'll make sure that both the physical sticky notes and the virtual sticky notes via google doc are are taken care of does that make sense to folks on zoom does anybody have questions about that I got the big thumbs up from Troy all right I got two thumbs up I'll take it um okay sweet let's pass up pencils you know other questions three questions so right now it's just ideas just like what ideas could um what are different projects we could work on as a community either improving something um you know just something that we could do in the neighborhood that we could do together and and have a joint project yes yeah we're just starting with ideas and then we'll go on to the the other two all right but it's really open right it's super open yeah yeah from planting flowers to a big dig to the lake anything spare damn anything anything and everything okay you should think big yeah from a new speed down to the lake yeah big day yeah yeah all right can I give you this to just take one of the yeah sure so yeah yeah could you outline that again I don't see a function uh for participating yeah so you see you see the bottom left like near your mute and your uh video button your heart yeah so two like right next to participants there's a q and a yeah not on my phone I have a q and a button at the upper right which I've pressed but it doesn't allow me to say anything I'll say I'm saying that's it because we're panelists we can't do the q and a we can answer the q and a we can do so some we need to and then we could only answer too yeah there's also the whiteboards option yeah yeah so yeah did you guys hear that no folks on zoom uh sam is just going to kick you down to not panelists but attendees okay yeah and then oh no no no the more the better be part of they and um they built it next to the the original one got down and moved the other one that's incredible so they out to make tv news I really think so really came alive that's how it's like amazing then I like this one because this okay yeah yeah yeah and then just for everyone online if you are an attendee right now and you would and you don't want to participate just raise your hand and I'll put you back up into a a panelist thank you Sam I think I accidentally went back to being a panelist so I still not sure how to do this yeah yeah um is the did the q and a function completely go away yeah and the yeah okay well I got I got twice I got twice question but I know that okay um I'll I'll keep it down and send you the link oh wait never mind I think it's okay um I just didn't scroll up far enough looks like I can answer this perfect okay yeah so no yeah I think no I think that's right we were talking about that was one of the questions we were asking the steering committee it was like those and then also we um yeah that's a very good point and then the I do non-profit fundraising for a living so it's like I was like yeah let's just go put up businesses and again and yeah I think we can find the money if we have this cool project and like between between those and like somebody you know yeah I I agree I think it'll be good yeah so do folks need a couple more minutes are folks still thinking good could you all use a couple more minutes yeah next I have an issue of what okay it like one more one more minute if you haven't yet throw the sticky notes up well the other time that would be more Carter can you hear me yeah I can so I'm I'm having difficulty I was having difficulty accessing but all I wanted to have you write for me is just some beautification along Riverside Avenue flower boxes or something like that thank you yeah no for sure that's a good one you got it so hey Carter yeah I forgot to add a zipline all the way down to the waterfront if you could just add a zipline to the waterfront that'd be great yeah oh perfect yeah thank you all right well we'll bring it we'll wrap up the ideas section I know a couple more people are just sticking notes there everybody got theirs in I know virtual I see a couple and Sharon we got yours in as well okay be careful you're wrapped on the cord thank you um okay are there any pencils they're floating yeah pencils and stuff can come back here as folks can so bringing back everybody back together to think about ideas so we're gonna go through I'm just gonna read each idea on the sticky notes and then I want to get like a straw poll as I read them if you feel like they're in capacity and what I mean by that is like now until August ish right is like the rough timeline like this is something we could achieve we could plan we could come to next meeting and like get done by August or if it's something that feels more longer term right so like something that maybe is a great idea but it's going to take a lot of planning a lot of research doesn't mean we don't do it it just means like we should be realistic on on time stuff does that make sense to people yeah should we be taking budget in your account if we're saying what's that yeah I think so for sure for sure I think it's like budget it's like how long would it take you know how how sort of logistically difficult like what would go into doing that and we can have some of that discussion as we go along and yeah certainly how much it will cost I do fundraising for a living so I'm always like don't worry about costs like it doesn't matter we'll find somebody to give us money um but yeah like if it's a three million dollar project that is different from like a $250 project yeah Tom yeah Carter zero I looked a little bit into where we can get money and there's a number of places where they um you can rate uh proposals rent grants to and the dollar values that they'll react on to and the attendance of dollars up to the tens of hundreds of thousands of dollars yeah so um there's there's a pretty big space depending on what you want to do yeah there's like Vermont Community Foundation has a ton of small grants and New England grassroots fund and yeah to your point I totally agree yeah um okay so I'm gonna shift this way and maybe grab a new mic well so I'm gonna shift um right here and Richard um I might have to yeah sorry I'm sorry to kick you all out um but so I'm gonna move them into like I'm gonna get a straw poll so if you think it's like incapacity you raise your hand and then I'll move over and I'll be like okay is it more out of capacity or if you have questions or something give give some sort of indication where we think we are um impossible and impossible no so I think in terms of yeah it was in and out in my brain but it's really like short term like achievable by the end of August for now and then this is maybe like longer term is going to take a year or we need to like figure out what it would entail like maybe we don't have all the information but you know something maybe to start us off and then something that we could um once we have a little experience collectively under our belts could could get it into and then we'll take a vote on like what's our top three and everybody will walk up with a pencil and mark an X but we'll sort of move the sticky notes as we go does that make sense yeah quick question are you going to give like a two seconds explanation of what those three or four words on the sticky name to sort of give us perspective so that we say we can do something or it's going to take a you know a long time yeah yeah it's got to be grounded so it would help us to do this for sure for sure that's totally fair so we'll go quick yeah because it's going to be uh what do we got we got 20 minutes yeah for sure okay so I see community garden in oh in a park community garden a park in capacity end of august in okay yeah yeah as I go if I see any dupes I'll just I'll grab them I see oh the I'm gonna embarrass myself and not be able to read handwriting neighborhood something talking like who's got this one it's the cursive uh neighborhood storm storm to believe tubing like see it's not like oh storytelling like moth hour oh oh oh neighbor to neighbor theme storm treatment I'm gonna say in and okay I like that too um closed streets for car-free bike access day in in that's okay whoop nice you can do it every sunday morning so amen amen uh weed weed rain garden on man's field as rain garden on man's field in north street too wait I just want to say because there's one right in front of my house the city is responsible for that and they do they're a little better now about sending people out to do it but not that great okay and feasible feasible wise okay um don't hesitate to work with adjacent ward if appropriate I'm gonna take this as a general tactic and put it down there I think that's very true with any of these projects street or block cleanup in or out in okay we're very realistic I like it we're very grounded in and what's possible um restore city green belt that has been made impermeable by cars context on this one we own city property but a lot of our green belt is just packed down because people don't respect the grass and paul bierman did the same while back in the geology professor where he literally took kids who gave students and they broke up the soil and planted grass and he's always said that you know who did that I mean it's amazing how much green space and permeable soil has been lost in our award so that was that that feels in okay it's like restored green belt yeah restore green belt yeah yeah which is you think that's out I think that's a long-term project what is temperature check depends how much you're gonna do so you can do a block where you're gonna do the whole ward ward so long term I mean because I think that's like yeah yeah so I'm gonna put it I'm I'm gonna put it I'm gonna put it on depends on how big the scale and put it up top yeah you can do demonstration project and then that would be it um so I'm gonna speed up a little bit folks it's gonna be like um what they do in like the roman movies like yeah yeah um bus stops better better bus stops all over the place I'm gonna say out yeah yeah I agree though I would really like that I just quick question better bus stops means better bus stop shelters yeah yeah there's a lot of bus stops that are missing okay know where they are yeah benches benches clean up um salmon salmon whole salmon whole male I think it could be the um if it's the top depend on the size like how much like if you just want to do that bench area at the top or if you're giving like a whole trail it's really nice down there yeah okay I'm gonna agree with that I think it's good assessment um meet neighbors and ask them to bring toters in when picking up on a day I'm gonna say out slash depends in this is communication this is easy okay I love it um I shouldn't have been mistaken over there um so say that one more time so I'm gonna put it up with the screen book I sponsor community parade like uh month and ramble like the ramble in the old north end yeah that's a lot of maybe out yeah really good good idea old north end shouldn't have all the fun uh community dinner pre mpa expand the chili smiley face in out I say in well let me throw that there uh trash cleanup plus competition oh yeah trash cleanup would make it spicy if you don't make it fun yeah like do like do it as teams like people we don't know in your and yeah I love that that sounds awesome um I dropped one hopefully that stays up there I'll tuck there we go community yeah this is so many butcher board and sticky note exercises in my life community demand safer streets I don't know forever yeah okay long term probably create access to shamanica park from colchester court longer I think we do a big project yeah I like I like the idea definitely feels big um set up a community beer garden festival I think that's more here with the ramble also pro um monthly cleanups we got already picket uvm president over housing that's that's one over money that's one after my own heart um we feel like in all right I'm pro we did say advocacy monthly cleanups we have somewhere so I'm just gonna put it down there but yes um cleanup trash days uh remove graffiti more bus shelters those are the next two so I'm gonna just put trash cleanup graffiti slash monthly cleanups together as sort of a similar idea yeah there was a bus stop one yeah so this one's more so more and better bus stops there and these go the windows I mean so yeah we're going past we're going past graffiti um bus shelter we already have community garden space we already have plan more wild way connections um in or out that would be like yeah um cleanup garbage we have throughout ward improve access to centennial woods it's longer yeah longer okay maybe we won't get housing we'll get just access to the woods um okay flowers next to the bus shelters we have bus shelter stuff I'll put it there talk about why so many uh trash I don't know why so many trash um offers and companies that holders will that will offer to pick up your trash um weekly bi-weekly monthly how big a cart you want and that's just like how many trucks you can go down our streets I agree I'm gonna say it's an out not to interrupt but yeah but it's a a process yeah yeah the city council we're trying to do it yeah yeah yeah the city council we tried to municipalize yeah it's like uh it's like the sopranos um um okay graffiti removal we have um community murals boards community mural boards yeah yeah yeah just yeah we're talking all around putting the boards where we can have artists or ourselves we'll take stuff yeah do we still like community work where we like post what's going on I think that needs to be on the top where the event on scope yeah that's what I'm thinking too um that's a great idea though FYI I did read it in front porch form that somebody is looking to mural in our water okay keep that keep that in mind all right builds I'm gonna move us on though build on options for samanska park events um which might be some old old east end collaboration I'm gonna say in that fuel or maybe it depends it depends on how many we're talking yeah yeah okay yeah in the process yeah okay I'm gonna say it depends mutual aid projects existing new possibilities um jake shuman knows a lot about these yeah um mutual aid projects I'm gonna say it depends yeah I'll get it in the budget okay I like that but oh I'll get that I swear um thank you thank you um so I have build up multi-use path to east av to connect oh to connect east av and um growth street long term long term how could I not say what what do you mean well bang it out in a weekend um beautification of on riverside av that was Sharon's um which I think we have flower bed stuff but I think specifically on riverside av I would say that's in I thought it in yeah okay um all right I'm gonna put that there but it's in in um a community board oh community band community band or orchestra all right I'm gonna say in uh community potlucks with singing or dancing or neighborhood musicians playing kind of like yeah kind of the same same line we're getting close folks um how we do on time okay go go go sponsor pop-up village food retail goods cafe etc um maybe a little longer term yeah more ramble-esque but kind of a similar idea um bake-off or meal bake-off or meal with homeless neighbors tizon with mutual aid tizon mutual aid so I'm gonna say depends scope that's where I'm gonna go yeah um donation based scavenger hunt a crossword one that would be dope so like uh old spokesman have done like a scavenger hunt where you have to go find for example ten dollars of locally sourced produce go find the baked goods behind a tree and then go find some clothing from a thrift store bring your haul back and then at the end of the scavenger hunt you donate it to an organization I'm gonna say longer yeah I biased the vote by putting it there but yeah good with longer that's really cool though um create walking path from riverside ab to north ab or mansfield uh north cross north street mansfield ab or north prospect I'm gonna say longer yeah yeah based on precedent there um advocates to city council on a regular basis showing up to city council meetings as part of like the mpa as a group sending some representatives to make sure we always have a voice there I'm gonna say in yeah right that's an easy can do that um desired paths to desired paths to build paths to build paths yeah so like taking desired paths and making that bill boss that makes sense I'm gonna say longer yeah what is that desired paths to build that like so like taking desired paths to make that bill like putting stairs or whatever and I'm assuming uh where people are already walking but it's not a path okay um walk oh we're doing this walk the ward and id obstacles for pedestrians right isn't that where you were just sharing so I'm gonna say I'm gonna say in we're gonna expand on on that uh with Dave build a pedestrian bridge acts pedestrian bridge across across the Winooski river I'm pro I'm pro that I'm pro that but I'm gonna say out um so let me do three here at a time um bridge yeah build paths build path steps from Colchester after Skamanska park I said that wrong but you know what I'm talking about I think there was another one that was there I'm gonna say I'm gonna say in or uh I'm gonna say out yeah uh fix potholes could we do it ourselves out I'm gonna say out but yeah we could do the flower put the flowers in them oh flower beds after is good yeah right in the potholes um community garden over there and beautification uh fellowships plus outreach with our elder communities example fern hill and in yeah I'm gonna depend scope maybe so it says fellowships plus outreach with our elder communities example fern hill it's pretty quick yeah okay no I lied it's in how do we engage with them yeah yeah um cleanup graffiti we have benches on greenways and community bike rides um community bike rides in and sure I'm seeing nods I'm hearing yeses okay and yeah yeah we go we go in a big group up clean graffiti we have benches on greenways out out it's going out we have graffiti so I'm just putting that one down there but we do have it down all right let's do these last three have been avoiding their paragraphs um um some way to integrate people in new new communities example on riverside um into the mpa maybe hold meetings so integrating folks from new american communities into the mpa into our work here a little more like salmon running the ones off catching growth those and yeah yeah that feel in we got two more not to cut folks off report back on how traffic calming efforts are working how well traffic calming efforts are working is this one of yours from your fps post report back on how the traffic calming measures something traffic calming measures are working so I that sounds in because like yeah but if it's is it just who wrote this one do we know if it's just reporting oh yeah sure yeah I wrote it yeah the idea of so for example Farron was talking about we've been reading about what's going to be happening on east avenue and some very specific things happening and so as the months go on do we feel like it's making a difference and just sort of staying in touch about that I think that's in because that feels like we could even take it on a steering committee like just getting somebody to come in the agenda um clean up some of the encampments on north prospect riverside the steep woods area as well as graveyard in out feels a little more out that should be out like I wait who said out I did Earhart here I don't think we should get involved in cleaning up encampments that's really not a neighborhood thing I think it's unfriendly uh towards folks who are without housing many of them have no other option so you're saying an out yeah I agree I think you don't do it not that it takes a lot of effort well yeah yeah here yeah we take a lot of effort in coordination with the city and potentially I'm here and we don't buy it um okay so an encampment is abandoned and if it's abandoned do something so maybe that's a long term maybe that's a longer mutual aid kind of thing yeah I'm going to throw it in longer term with that asterisk is that all right for now determining whether it's abandoned yeah I can add it um well I'll add it before I take notes I'm going to take all these and type them up post this meeting so that we have a record of this and yeah and remind me before we leave to yeah can I just jump in I don't know if I've been listening I haven't heard any of the ones that came up from folks who are zooming in I know the two that I posted in the Q&A did not get in so if you know you could just consider I know it's probably put in some something I think Zariah put in something as well yeah I totally forgot Earhart you're right let me pull it up right now thank you um I don't see it in the google Sam is there stuff in the chat it's in the chat I I could not deal with the google doc on my phone sorry some thoughts yeah so Sam do you want to just read them out from the chat one of the time real quick and we'll go one and we'll say in and out and I'll write it down a sticky note quick does that sound good to folks yeah I'll write them down so from Zariah uh in an in-group athlete who can train at this river watching the public square I'm gonna say out um from the Earhart place the planters that are slash were in the cheat street neighborhood there used to be threes you've got destroyed the main one's in bad shape pause there Sam so Dave can catch up so the first two Zariahs of building paths sounds like some of the other ones we've had here that's probably an out and the second one was talking about flowerbed construction if I'm correct and that's maybe more of a maybe you're in yeah yeah okay yeah so Earhart will be here and so you will be there um Dave could I actually grab those as you write them just to remember where they go thank you um okay next one Sam flower boxes we'll say flower boxes here plus one and we have traffic coming on here Sam that's it okay those are all great ones thank you all okay so what we're gonna do now is a little bit of abbreviated from how I thought because we have so many ideas so we are gonna do this um yeah okay that's perfect that makes voting a lot easier that's good yeah yeah yeah so that's a great prompt we have an email list now and we could send out an email to vote on these what do folks think about that and then it forces you to receive our emails if you send a list out and there's like five thickies or the same thing you should make that yeah yeah yeah yeah I'll condense I have a suggestion yes there are probably only a half a dozen themes in there if you think about it there's flowers there's you know traffic there's bikes I mean cleanup you know that's flowers right so if if you distill those down to three or four major categories like that then I think we could vote on a major category you'll get the direction do you agree that we vote next meeting or do you are you saying now no I we can't do it now I think there's still you need to take the stuff distill it down they call it affinity put all the stuff that's similar together create the overarching you know theme and then give us back the themes and just say we found you know 17 ideas related to communication you know for sure for sure so yeah that's exactly what we'll do we'll keep a record of everybody's thing so we have the detail if we ever for posterity's sake want to look back I'll condense it out we'll send an email we won't vote via email to keep it simpler we'll vote at the next meeting but we'll send them out so folks can mull between now and your next mpa and we'll figure out the agenda and send that out as well also I guess building on what they've said the you know if there are a dozen things that are beautification maybe one or two of those can be done in the near term but those other things should be we should keep on our list because they would be perhaps good candidates for the following definitely yeah yeah no totally I totally hear that and we'll incorporate that into the distilling slash recording that sound good so we got through a lot we didn't get through everything but I think that's really good and it'll give us a chance to breathe in and figure it out okay any last thoughts wrap up thank you all yeah process for sure can I putting it in this direction I think it's a good idea may I say just one other thing and it will be on a positive note okay it is about back to Jared Wood because I learned of his death and I was just struck by it I don't know him very well he um works a lot in my neighborhood in north prospect street and I would talk with him often when I was gardening my friend garden he always admired my friend garden and I was always honored and he left an article for me some months ago about a lovely plant that he thinks should be in my front garden and I actually have that plant but I had another one in the backyard and so I said thank you Jared I do like that plant and I took that plant and I moved it into my front garden for him to see this season it's blooming right now and I want to say that I really appreciate how many suggestions there were from this community about how we beautify our neighborhood about how we plant our gardens and we share our gardens with each other because that's what happened between Jared and me and I so appreciated that he would give a damn like that and that we could talk about it so I'm just I just kind of wanted to summarize the meeting by saying this is a kind of a way to honor Jared this that we're doing that's off and I invite you all to come see my garden it's called Helboros and it and it blooms it's one of the first things that can poke its head through the snow it's just a lovely plant so yeah yes there are so thank you very much thank you very much and that concludes our meeting