 Thank you for staying with us. It's time for of the press. Well, we're looking at what the national dailies are saying this morning And joining us to review the papers is Chris Cain de Wandoo as a member of the Chatted Institute of Betrayers in the UK But he's joining us here in Lagos State. Good morning, Mr. Chris. Thank you for joining us We are hoping that you are making money through the legal, your legal prowess because this is a time where every politician is going to court So maybe you are making so much money. We have to pronounce Yes, let's move over to the paper. So we're going to be looking at point first this morning and the major headline here says National Assembly may pass budget 541 MDAs in defense. And the writers here says, Senate verbs to immunize appropriation bill. I Saturday for passage, Senator Spokesperson. We also have committees submitting reports generated December budget cycle will be sustained sales committee chair. What are your thoughts on this one? Yes, it's good that the Senate situation, not saying it's sorry, the National Assembly has stopped its job, I'm pretty sure that the project is passed and I'm surprised at the three points at which we are able to figure out the projects as it were and the effect to pass it. In the past, we have several challenges. One, in the past, we knew that basic budget is not going to be presented till early next year and that became a problem. I think that the cycle was corrected by the last administration of the president, the Department of Work. The second one is that most of the ministries, every year is at the end of the year. At that point, we were able to command inferior budget and that in itself is not going to be a problem today. The second one is that we're going to the National Assembly to seek some gratification of some of these budgets. Most of them are going to deliver what is required or what they can accept. One is to help dispense the last budget, the money that we did and where they used it to in the last budget. Then the big elephant in the house also has to pay it. I'm sure he paid it and paid it but the budget, especially also in the part of the members of the national assembly that are coming from the Peruvian of the sister of what they are at right. And that this budget is passed to the next. At the time of the year, we'll say that it's not possible that the budget is not proper. The part is implementation because most of them are at the end of the year. We're going to say that most of our budget is not possible because of the 50% threshold of implementation and that in itself becomes a problem. Then the last leg is yes, it's a budget. It's an estimate. How are we going to put the budget also in the middle of the problem? Because you come to say that we are going to be borrowing to service the people who go and starving there. And most of these borrowers are going to visit. So we should be able to think of the people and find ways and ways of generating enough revenue that we can be able to implement the budget. The budget is predicated on certain things. I think it's about $70 per yes, $17 per barrel of crude oil. And we hope that we'll be able to sustain that with what is at play across the globe in Israel and Hamas and the Ukraine. Of late now in the Middle East that UTO cruiseries are now attacking new ships shipping crude oil to some parts of the world. And that in itself is dignity or movement of crude across the globe. Some ships now have to pass through longer routes to get to their destination. So let's on and on let's assign the best. The problem is that we must also be able to measure that spending more on capital budgets rather than just which has always been capital project is what it is is supposed to be. Then when we get these nodes let us also know what these nodes are used for. It's not just collecting nodes I say collecting nodes is going out of fashion. But these nodes must be packed to certain projects which must be told because it's not the money of the president it's not the money of national security but the money of the government. So talking about implementation I mean this administration is about seven months in do you see can you trust this administration to actually implement all of the things in this budget and to be able to save up even with the budget because we're talking about loans now so are they going to be able to use the money judiciously. Not just this government there is a deficit trust to relationship between the people and the government because the government is set one thing on one side by three things. So it's not just about the budget alone look at the promises that I'm sticking to this government and the government promises the budget and the budget but just one moment you saw the 35,000 bearer promise that we mentioned that the politics is to be in the purpose of a government official and also the only state the only state that I know that it is to be in the state you have seen what that government is doing in that state that world average state and that one has become an example of what government should be. I don't know what that government means nobody says what the government is. So it's not just a budget implementation yes I have said that in this is yes that implementation we have enough money to implement the budget and we need to follow it too the situation where we use our money budgeted to buy SUVs because our roads are bad according to them we are going to use a 15 billion to build the house to build the house of the vice president where we are buying president although they told us not to give it consider to the marines because it is focused being focused and tight and making sure that all the indices and all the businesses are implemented. At the end of that then we are about to go with this too when we were talking about government needing to find ways and means to fund the budget I was just laughing because that word or that phrase ways and means reminded me of what happened in the last government the central bank and even from the pensions fund and so many other places and I was laughing but my concern is I don't know if the time between the time between the presentation of the budget and the passing of the budget is enough for them to scrutinize the budget the way it should be scrutinized because ok for instance in this short period 541 MDAs ended their defense there could be more that need to do that but the hurry is that they should pass the budget before it enters January is the craze for starting a budget in January what worth it let me just say worth it because if you are in a hurry to pass the budget so that you can start from January we know that ok we are starting this year with this budget we are ready to do what you are supposed to do which means the padding you were talking about maybe there and they might not even see it maybe deliberately or otherwise but is the time enough is it because we are just trying to start the budget in January and then we can do anything in the short time that we are given I'm calling this I knew that it was all the doubts from what I had it had about 130 quantities that look at into the so I won't do that they have the and we have done a very good job on this and so it's something that is needed so first after that as it states very fast budget we need to pass we need to pass budget we need to pass budget but the other thing I didn't know the money to capture everything but I I think the budget was not combat may it was presented you see a lot of changes the distance is very good budget has and put it in a good ones remember on the supplementary project now the issue of the presidential act was removed by the national assembly and now I think we move it to the scholarship scheme of the scholarship scheme so that is what normally happens there will be very very circumstances where a lot of new GQ is going to be done but the fact that the world is budget to start implementing this is going to be very fast budget that this government is going to present what do you mean by that was the budget that was prepared by my mother who are in june there but the world has supplementary budget so I don't see any problem any decision problem actually alright let's move over to reverse state so here on the page and as well as the guardian that says again it says as so we know the saga that has been happening in reverse state I mean we've seen the news of Vicky even speaking about don't break the ladder I think it's don't pull the ladder right so what is your take on all of this in reverse state as well as coming in to make sure there is an agent of peace between both parties to me the most ridiculous agreement I've seen since 1999 when we assumed this democracy an agreement that is about 90% 95% upside towards to favor yes so we get to miss not an agreement and I continue to ask which kind of a government is this for power this does not matter Vicky knew that in his weekly my words that is a weekly that's why I picked it because this man has not been here like people at all what Vicky is doing now is what we can do take when he was going to reverse state he wouldn't even see the reverse state I'm sure you know that we didn't want to see the reverse state we didn't want to see the reverse state for no man's clockwise it's started again and I look at out-of-the-age agreement it is only one that you said that which is why that should stop the procedure every other thing was and to me this is not democracy this is not democracy because to me this is more of dictatorship So we had the stakeholders from Riversdale to the governor, we have some people from Riversdale to where they are to be able to sign the petition. But to me, the governor would have much to be able to sign this, and I don't know why it's not... Let me tell you, in my place we have been saying that if you kill a snake, and you knock on the head, you cannot be too sure that that snake don't die. Because if you just... If you come back to how to deal with this issue. One, let us look at the issue of the restitution of 27 or 26 members of the legislative group that have been camped to another party. That is a constitutional issue. That is not an issue to be decided by President... Two to me, is also a stakeholder, is a consigned interest, is in the APC, is the leader of the APC party. So he cannot take a decision on an issue like that. Then I expect the governor to follow this and go to the court and declare the seat of this... Let us follow the Supreme Court, let the Supreme Court take a decision. Because session 109, some one already is very clear on the issue of the infection. You say that they should... And you should not take the budget that was passed, but the other... And take it back and lay it before them, so that they can pass it. That is wrong. Secondly, that all the commissioners who resigned... Look at the work, check the work. Resigned, they did... We are not... We are not subject to... They voluntarily resigned their position. You say they must reabsorb them. And send their names back to the State House of Assembly to be approved. What are we talking about? What are we... That he must not dissolve look and governance at his way. So everything is just... And I ask myself, which cannot be moved to the Supreme Court? Well, that is for him, that is between him and the people of Riversdale. But I just hope that he has not dug his grave. Because he who rides on the back of a dagger, most of them are not tens of stomach. So if he knows what is good for him and he thinks that this is the best he can... I wish him good luck, but to me, this is just a brush. This is not what democracy is all about. Well, we know that the governor hasn't accepted all of these terms yet. But we're just waiting to see how the story would unfold. And at the end of the day, it's the growth of Rivers State we're talking about here. And we can only hope that... But Jensom, Wike and Fubara, you know, they come together to reach an agreement that is amicable between both parties. Jensom, Wike is a principle, right? And you would expect that maybe he wants some form of loyalty. Who's principle? At this time, at this time, it's not... Thank you, my brother. Thank you, my brother. And then your student proves to a point of independence. And you're still saying you have to come and lay down because you're coming here. Thank you, my brother. Is it not the prayer of every father that is sung? True. I'm trying to play devil's advocate here. I see. I'm trying to play devil's advocate here, right? Sir, I hear you. I hear you too, Yamgo. I'm just saying, I'm sure Jensom Wike wants some form of loyalty. That, oh, I'm your principle. I mean, we've seen things like that even happen in Lagos State as well. I'm your principle. Still give me the acolytes that I deserve. But you can say he's pushing it too far. So my thoughts here are just, they should both reach... Fubara learned from the best. Wow. Fantastic. Fantastic. You're on point, my brother. When we started hearing the music, there you are. I just said the man don't think, I didn't know that this guy did nothing about the music, but man, just this band that is just nothing. But I hope and I hope and this is an emotional thing. I hope that's when we are able to have what happened in the sixties, what was known as the Aburi accord. I'm sure you remember what they call it. Remember what they call it is all about? Where Modemipu, Juku, and Gohwan went to Abuwa in Ghana to sign an accord and say that, oh, we finally choose that everybody day or day, and let's move on. And only for them to come back to Nigeria. And once it's the general Gohwan, it goes like this kind of thing. Do you know what he's going to do? He goes and says, oh, no. I do not believe in Nigeria. That was how the war started. And that is how the 1967. So I hope this is not, Fubara will not go back. And as I bet, I'll repeat myself. This is the most ridiculous, the most ridiculous argument I've ever seen. I think he's tricking Nigeria and sending it. And I don't know why he's not decided to what he did. But let's wait and see. And I repeat myself. He, whereas at the back of the tiger, most of them now ends up in his stomach. And I hope that, I believe, and I hope that the governor has not done his grave good quote and unquote on this situation because they're being backpowered, too. Those that want you out, it's just a matter of time. And you see what will happen. I would have thought that if already having some kind of leverage in the judiciary or in the court, should have followed that through. He has given some of the view of legitimacy, which has given him a leverage to take some of the judiciary. And for good reason, if you look at the commissioners that are resigned, almost all the key ministries were in the hands of U.K., Ministry of Finance, A.G.F., Transport, Namits, yeah. So how many are there? How are these guys going to be lower to the government? How is he going to, most of these need to speak to me? He's a typical, but let's wait and see. You know, in reverse, in the past two weeks or two weeks, we have been saying at once, at once, I'm going to say at three simple, as it is. Okay, let's move to Daily Independent. The headline we're taking now is federal government should prioritize taming inflation, not a $1 trillion economy. The writers are analysts label $1 trillion economy target as unrealistic, and they say decline in inflation will lead to increase in Naira value. We'd like to have your take. As far as inflation rate, inflation rate has entered about 28 cents as of last time. That is the highest in so many years now. So one of the worst in the world also, is Sahara and Africa. And we are not, Nigerians are not smiling. This is Christmas. You can now imagine how many ideas can be put by a chicken. The chicken is made from a 16,000 Naira. My sister should know that. But at this time, when I did, I did the in charge. I did the in charge. So you lose how much a mudo of rice is, a mudo of rice. I think it's seen as she's early home. I mean, I went to the market yesterday and the prices were ridiculous. Very sadly. That is just a one slide. They look at transportation as well. A lot of people are not going to travel this Christmas but they cannot afford transportation. Transportation is a one-way transport to these chickens. It's about 30,000 Naira. They fly, they don't even go to the flight. The flight ticket to go away from Lagos is about 230,000 to 240,000. I'm not talking about return ticket. I'm talking about one-way. So those are the issues and those are the trends. Then for those that are parents, don't forget that by the time they come back, they're not going to pay school fees. That one is just there. They're going to pay housing. So it is a no-win-win situation. Nigeria is in a dead end. And that is all on the city government. Hit the ground running. President, when he was in his immigration speech, said that he knows what the problem is, that he knows that he's not going to visit. He's going to hold his slaves and tackle this clearly. And I hope we will sit down and tackle it because Nigerians are not smart in all front. Are you talking about the economy as it just as we're talking about? Are we talking about the dollar? Are we talking about price of wealth, this rule, and the ease of doing business in Nigeria? Practically all the SMEs have practically died and collapsed. People are losing it. The rate of employment in Nigeria is only high. So why are you targeting the one trillion dollar economy? In fact, it means that whatever you target, it does not translate into the pocket of a great Nigerians and they will be able to make ends with them. If we're targeting them, price is not going to be good at all. As I said, immigration rate is in Japan. It's hoping to bring 2700% is not, which is terrible. Well, we can only hope that it is being tamed because I mean, my bank account is not smiling right now. I didn't know who they are. It's red. I used to get it back. It is red. So we're hoping that something can be done. So I mean, people can just afford the basic amenities of life easily and not that you're struggling. But anyways, let's move to daily trust. And this major headline here says, nuts out of schoolchildren, population and time bomb. That's the federal government. And the writers here are 680,000 in Kaduna over 500,000 in Gombe, about immobilizing resources for educational projects. Bala Mohamed, 3963 teachers in public schools fail qualifying examination-wide. And finally, over 50% of private schools' teachers unqualified. This is by the TRCN. I'm sure we know a lot. So I think we've had a conversation about this. Oh, the Alamadjirees, you know, on the street. Yes. There's children that are supposed to be in school and they're not in school. And obviously if you're not teaching them and educating them, they don't even have the resources to become better citizens in future. But now that they're saying it's a population time bomb, what do you think about that? Yeah, you're very right. Remember, we discussed this issue some weeks ago. We were talking about the shock on my cherry, you know, and also where it was said that some state in the north spent about 50 billion naira for scholarship to abroad and we're saying that if this money, that money is pumped into the education sector in the north, they won't have almost a problem we're having now. It's a time bomb that is, you know, time bomb, the time from maybe 20 minutes, 10 minutes or 15 minutes. This time bomb is going to about two minutes now and the next thing is one minute then before you know it, let's go. The rate of poverty, the rate of children out of school in the north is on the high and I said it last time that I visited some part of the north within Fauci, Gumbi, Katzina, Katzina and what I saw was shocking. The number of children roaming the streets, carrying kids and begging in tatas and in tats. These are children that are supposed to be in school and the country to ask what is the essence of having children if you cannot give them basic education, especially primary and secondary school. If the best in the government, this is something a government can do. You can put all these children in primary and secondary and still play football. The former government of Ula-Junatan came up with the, what's the name of it? It's called as the primary school. That's the majority school system. Yes, the majority school system. We had schools we had built and we had made sure that these children find their way back in the classroom and everybody was happy with it. The minute that government came up and you think that a government like that of Mohamadubuari, who is also somebody, yes, presentable by somebody from the north, who ought to know better, supposed to have sustained that policy. He did it and that's a policy that naturally, so the truth is not telling us anything that is new. But in fact, then you do present this on what is happening at the ID count and the number of people at the ID count and over one million people at ID counts in most parts of the country. In fact, in Banoi, I think there are over 500,000. A majority of them are children who practically have nothing to do. And as we say in this part of the world, the devil and I do hand the devil push up because we don't have anything to do. They don't go to school. They don't have any work. Then they become very, very prone to all the terrorists who now recruit them and use them to perpetrate all sorts of evil because if somebody that's not eating and you see someone that can give you food, bread and whatever and say, come on, come on, come let me give you some jobs. Definitely they'll just give them, and that's it. It is even that. That is why you see the high rates of banditry in the north. Most of the people being used are children of the poor who cannot find a way to speak because if you are in school, the possibility of lawing you out will come back going to the bush, that kidnapping people, that killing people and the rest of the people. So I hope this government should not lose which not lose its eye from the on the ball because it is a time bomb that will do nobody any good. Any little style in the security system because we already have serious security problem. Not only in the north, even in the south, which is why also we are saying that I am also advocating that we should find a political solution to the problem is to do, especially as it has to do with the NAMDICAL. Yes, it's a prequel that I made is when I found a political solution so that the fragile piece, seemingly that seems to be going on is will not explode in the next few weeks because some non-state actors are taking advantage of the continuing incarceration of NAMDICAL to perpetuate all sorts of evil and this security. The problem with the guy that is in Finland is even though that has to be put there too, every month, if we can be able to find a solution because we should not. And it comes out, I will reach on a kind of agreement. I think it was what doubts the level of insecurity. Now, it starts to worse. A lot of NAMDICAL is going on along the legacy of the expressway. Now, I'm sure you've heard of that. A lot of people have been given up on the in the past won't be going to, I don't know because of whether it's because of Christmas season or whatever, but a lot of people are being kidnapped. So the issue of a motive we should be revitalized and put in a better perspective so that we have a lot of security problems. Yeah, that's why we're glad that Affinifer is trying to offer some alternative solutions to the security problem in the country. But be that as it may, we need to wrap it up at this moment right now, Chris. I would like to thank you for coming on the show this morning. Thank you. No problem, actually, you know, I don't know what you're talking about. No problem, actually. No problem, we'll get you there. All right, we've been speaking to Chris Cahinde Wanda, the member of the Chattered Institute of Abriturators in the UK, but he was joining us here in Lagos State. We'll take a short break. And when we return, we'll be talking about the NNPCL pledging to produce two million barrels of crude daily. Stay with us.