 It's crappy sleep ruining your progress. Watch this our next caller is Tawoo from California. What's up Tawoo? How can we help you? Hey, Sal and Adam and Justin and Doug good to talk to you and Adam again, I don't know if you guys remember me at the NCI event. Oh, yeah Yeah, so I'll see you guys again in April for the coaching console and that's a nice to finally talk to you guys Oh, good deal. I'll see you then. All right, so my question. Yeah, I see you guys there So my question is about sleep. So first some of the episodes that I've listened to about sleep and recovery under the importance of that being a trainer and Relaying that message to my clients and but this Question is more personal about me. And so yeah, kind of give you a little background For me my little sleep routine I do the whole thing as far as no screens or anything stimulating an hour before bed I read before bed Get in bed and turn on like orange lights and all that stuff. So I go to bed around 10 30 11 and Wake up around 545 But what I've kind of noticed is for the past I'd say five to eight year years I've kind of like Woken up during the night. So I wanted to say it was like restful sleep So what happens is I sometimes go to the bathroom. So that wakes me up a little bit but then I can kind of go back to sleep and then Sometimes I was just kind of like Wake up naturally and kind of rub my eyes and just toss around in bed But the weird thing is when I do wake up. So when my arm goes off at 545, I am up I don't drink coffee. I don't drink tea or need caffeine to wake up. I'm up and throughout the day I don't really get energy crashes or anything like that Which is kind of weird just because it's like I don't think I'm getting restful sleep because I do what toss and wake up during the night and For days there are some days where I've gotten like three hours of sleep and then I wake up that like naturally like 730 and I'm kind of fine during the day. So my ultimate question is I'm still in my 20s. I'm 28 And I've heard like I've talked to some of the trainers and my friends and they're like Once you turn 30 everything's gonna go to shit. And so I guess that's my question Is this gonna change when I'm 30 or is this my sleep routine all that stuff? How physiologically I'm recovering is that gonna change when I'm 30? I just wanted to see you guys input on that. Yeah, your friends are wrong. It's 35 I knew it. No all joking aside Okay, so there's a difference between being rested Awake and alert and being wired right so sometimes Especially when you're young You get away with lack of sleep and it what it does is it just makes you feel more wired And so you feel like oh, I'm I'm doing well and it's hard to discern between the two you said for the past five to eight years, so Sounds like before you had no issue sleeping. Did anything change in that five to eight year period? I know you said you don't use any stimulants because that would have been the obvious question I would ask so has anything changed in that period of time that could be affecting your sleep Not really I'd say What time do you work out at Like right now around 9 30 in the morning Do you drink a lot before you go to bed? I don't know not not really I'd say I probably limit my water consumption probably around what time like around maybe like eight or nine and sometimes I'll maybe sip on a On my water bottle just the tiny steps just because I'm like a little parched But other than that not really no do you do you feel more stressed or anxious in general? No, that's the thing so like again like when I wake up at 545 I'm I'm like a positive person in general. So when I wake up, I'm up. I don't hit snooze. I Don't again don't have any energy crashes As far as going back to the first question of like anything changing not really I think the only thing that change was like my wake-up time because back in my high school middle school or whatever I Could sleep in until like 9 30 or 10 but once I Had more clients in the morning of being a personal trainer and coach and then I have meetings in the mornings at 6 So that's when I started to waking up at 545 So when you wake up like sporadically, you know in the middle of the night You said you go to the bathroom sometimes like do you notice a temperature change like are you hotter? Like is there like fluctuations in that? Very minimal I'd say Um There let's see. Do you get strange feelings at all when Sal post pictures with no shirt on that's Next Adam Adam feels like he's alone in that but I told him all the time all the time Okay, so yeah, so tell you I'm gonna I'm gonna rephrase your question. Please tell me if I'm done Yeah, I'm gonna rephrase your question. Tell me if I'm if I'm on or off. Okay, so you're asking is hey guys I get Less sleep than people say I'm supposed to get but I feel great. I have a lot of energy I don't need caffeine right so everything feels good, but I'm I'm worried that something may be off I just don't feel like it is is that accurate? right, so like I Send the question like one people turn 30 people all once you turn 30 everything kind of changes You can deal with it when it happens I mean, okay, so my guess I'm gonna guess here is because there are There is a polymorphism, you know a genetic difference. It's rare But there are people who require less sleep than others So there's a small chance you could be one of those people What I would guess it is is that there is kind of unrealized anxiety and stress maybe around work Maybe that you wake up. You got to train your clients. You don't want to be late You want to do a good job so it's kind of running through your mind and that's kind of affecting your sleep That's what I'm that's what I would guess But there's not much to work with here if you're telling us that you feel great You've got lots of energy. You don't need lots of stimulants and you're just wondering if it's yeah I wouldn't worry about too much. You're not it's not going to it's not gonna shave 10 years off your life because you went through a period of Sleeping, you know less hours than what people say is optimal So long as you're feeling good I think the big thing I would just keep an eye on as you turn 30 or 35 as you get older I mean, I if you were to have talked to me at 28 about sleep, I would have just scoffed about it I didn't think I was missing anything and and even knowing what I know now I still don't know if you could have convinced me to put more focus on it because I was I didn't think I was feeling anything from it So maybe you know, you're fine Maybe like Sal said you're you're an anomaly as far as somebody how many hours you need and maybe you won't recognize That till you get older and when you do you adjust and you know you have the tools You've been listening to mine pump for a long time. You know what you should be doing this reminds me of when Doug was messing with that sleep monitor and it was a wearable and you know, it's it's He really got into it right Doug in terms of like like the analytics and like was starting to get a little bit obsessed about it And then actually like interrupted your actual sleep, right? Yeah, that's correct. Yeah I became very competitive about sleeping. So I got so worried about sleeping. I started to have poor sleep And here's the thing about turning 30. Okay, coming from somebody that is way older few years older than that That's bullshit. Okay. I'm just gonna say that right now At 30 If you think you're gonna have a problem, you're gonna have a problem if you don't think you have a problem You take care of yourself. You won't have a problem. I'll tell you that right now Yeah, yeah I mean if you really want to go deeper if you think there's an issue to I would work with a sleep Expert and monitor they'll actually monitor your sleep to see what's going on But there's not much to work with on our end about, you know, what you're talking about Yeah, I'm most concerned about the weird feelings. You're getting one. So I'll do those posts That's the only thing that that's the only thing that stands out to be totally normal But yeah, I I guess going back to the anxiety thing I think Now that I'm thinking back on it when I had to you know Teach bootcamp classes or like clients in the morning. I think there was that that anxiety of like, oh, what if I miss my alarm and It doesn't go off and I think that's Potentially why um, so yeah, that's what I would guess Were you that used to happen to me? How were you in school? Were you like a man? I got to do this I got to be perfect straight a's. I got to work my ass off or are you like that with other things? More or less, I think well in college I used to be in the marching band. So we would practice we would have to be at the stadium at 7 a.m. So I'd wake up at like Like 5 30 or 6 just get ready All that so I guess that's when I had to kind of force myself to be like a morning person But yeah, middle school high school. I could sleep until like Well, like I'm dirty or tan easily great Big you Do you meditate? um No, uh, right before I go to was that I start start start a meditation practice um, you have some it sounds like you have some unrealized anxiety That you're not fully Completely aware of and that's what's causing you to wake up early and maybe toss and turn Because you're maybe anxious about being a good trainer or building a business on something else like creating a problem by You know focusing on something that's not really a problem Uh, you know, you know creates its own issue. Yeah meditation would help I think but meditation is a practice. So it's like exercise. That means you're gonna suck at it for a while So you got to keep sticking to it. So just keep that in mind if you end up Taking the advice with meditation, but it feels like there's some unrealized or your some anxiety that you're just not Fully aware of and so it feels like things are weird. What's going on But the more I talk to you the more it sounds like you have some anxiety about Being good or being a good trainer or waking up on time or You know showing up on time or building your business that'll definitely keep somebody You know, it's it's like a it's like a movie running in the background of your brain, right? So and it's just there and meditation can help you turn things off or for actually To say it better meditation can help you not focus on the movie in the background So it's just there, but that's okay. You're not identifying with it So that would be the only piece of advice I could give you based on what you gave us So I hope that helps Yeah, I think so. I think now that I'm like actually like talking to someone about it Because I think this is the first time I've like actually like dug deep a little bit into this Yeah, I think the Hidden anxiety part is definitely Um, I'm obviously dropping my ego of like, oh, I'm always positive. I'm always energetic But um dropping the ego like maybe I do have some you know Unforeseen anxiety that I've been kind of like pushing down I guess so Yeah, this yeah, this opened my eyes to a lot of things. Hey, no, that's great That was actually really really cool change of direction there at the very end with what you just said That's a great first step. So we'll see you at the next event taboo. Thank you for coming. Yes, sir Thank you guys. See you in April. No problem Yeah, you know Boy does this remind you when you get a client and they would talk to you about stuff and you're like Ah, this is really weird But then you keep asking questions keep talking and then they it's like it starts to kind of come out I I I I do feel I get DMs the issue I get DMs a lot like this and it's uh, and it's it's normally from Fans or people that have been listening a lot to the show because we cover a lot of stuff and Sometimes I feel like people You know it almost like what just was it where they're almost like they're looking for a problem where there's not a problem They found a diagnosis for something right. They're looking for they're like looking for a problem, right? It's like If he doesn't need to use caffeine He pops right up and he wakes up I mean, sure we could sit here and and act like a bunch of therapists and try to get to the bottom of like this Deep-rooted anxiety. He's actually he's actually stressing over Something he thinks you should stress about, you know, I mean like well, yeah It's like you're actually what you're talking about right now Just the fact that you're talking about it is probably doing more harm than what is actually happening at nighttime So just let it go, you know, I don't think I mean he's got nothing that's that's pointing towards This sleep is really really affecting him. It's the thought about him losing the sleep Which is something he got probably from us. Let's seem to us talk about the benefits Yeah, and this is the the sort of dark side of like the biohacking community I think you get in so much to the nuances of things that are like, you know You get so obsessed on on every little detail of things and it interrupts You know the whole like it tells us to bring progress and and just to play devil's advocate It very well could be a situation where the only thing he's aware of Is that his sleep is off? But what he's not aware of is why or that he's anxious or You know, I don't know I don't know about you guys But I've definitely had lack of sleep But I'm able to function because I'm wired and because I'm older I know the difference between wired and you know rested in awake, right? He might not even be aware Of that difference and just be like, no, I'm doing fine I pop up and I'm working and you know kind of you know burning his body out a little bit And he can get away with it So it may be that you know, it may be one of those things But I think the overthinking aspect of it I think it kind of became a little evident as we talk to him a little more, right? Hey, if you enjoyed that clip You can find the full episode here or you can find other clips over here and be sure to subscribe