 Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to another episode of toffee TV USA My name is James Boyman joined as always by my co-host Ryan Williams Ryan. How are we doing today midweek? Not too bad. There's some other things to talk about this week and hopefully our weekly segments are a little bit entertaining And got a couple things queued up that at least will be somewhat entertaining. I think yeah, I've got some interesting discussion points I mean the first thing of course fans returning to go to some park really exciting stuff Fittingly against Chelsea, which coincidentally and was of course the last game Everton played that allowed fans in the stadium I was at that match. It was unpleasant at Stanford Bridge as we fell for nail Vividly remember Billy Gilmore bossing us all over the pitch and Jabril Sidibe throwing around some wild sliding tackles that were nowhere near Up to standard. So we've come a long way since then but nevertheless Everton are still Mid-table struggling in form a little bit. So some things truly never change but to kick things off today We're gonna try not to talk about too many depressing Everton stats We will start with a new segment which we're gonna dub initially pundit of the week but we want to come up with something slightly more creative going forward, but this is essentially to highlight some of the outstanding and Memorable takes from those in the football media this week Ryan Q us up Well, we have debated a couple different names the Golden Augie Award in honor of Mark Ogden and his great takes on Carlo Ancelotti. We love those And in honor of the great Skip Bayless, we thought that would be solid here in America And if you don't know who he is for our worldwide followers, trust me, you don't want to know Honorable mention this week. I think goes to Danny Murphy He could pretty much be a shoe in in this award any week. He's normally a strong contender But he claimed once again that he was the all-knowing and the Carlo Ancelotti wasn't the right fit the job at goodison park Whatever I don't know why there are so many liver proponents out there the feel the need to comment on Everton when they have No idea what they're talking about, but oh well, but this week's winner. I think is Gabby on the lore He claimed that Yamez not Hamez. Let's be clear Gabby decided that Yamez Doesn't like the cold. I don't think he was ready for the cold in England He's not getting the time on the ball in it like he was in his first few games James, is that right? Does he? No, that's completely incorrect actually. He's had plenty of touches. There's absolutely no indication He's not getting the ball at all the last two matches. He's gotten the ball a ton And before that, I think he had something like, you know, almost 60 touches in 73 minutes at Fullham So that would be wrong. He's getting a bit found out He's not which is okay fine. I mean, of course, he's unique to the league. I get a little bit that But he's not offering the team as much as he was That's no, he's pretty much the primary source of creation for our whole team Okay, and if Everton had a few more players on the bench, he wouldn't be starting um, he hasn't done much in the last three or four games Dumb to Calvary Luna returnals and need some help from someone else I'm shocked that he didn't bring up Guilfee Sigurdson in that way. Um And and to cap it off. Yamez's work rate is non-existent Ignoring the fact that he led the team in tackles a couple weeks ago Ignoring the fact that his defensive numbers are actually decent um He's our winner. So I don't know Hamez since I I know how to pronounce that name Apparently in Spanish appropriately at least if you're Colombian Any additional commentary on this? I think it does speak for itself pretty well It does it's Phenomenally and astoundingly lazy punditry. I think it's it's a case of him seeing. Oh, everton are in poor form. Well Who's to blame? It's gotta be Hamez's fault. He they're not winning. So clearly he's not performing as well and Most of that's not the case. I mean, he's been one of the few bright spots. I think the rest of the team And to be honest, we've haven't played great, but we also haven't been getting destroyed or anything like that To say that he doesn't have work rate. I mean, I think that's kind of almost going to become a meme given the Yeah, it's a cliche. He works really hard. He's not the paciest and so maybe that And no one's going to dispute that he is and so maybe that Is gonna get critiqued and criticized like he's not good because he's not fast, but evertonians know the truth he's a hugely influential player for us And he has been one of the few bright spots the last few matches despite our poor form as a squad No question. I don't see how that's even arguable. No one watching our matches would think Anything of or other than that. In fact, we're constantly talking about how best to get him on the ball in more dangerous Areas constantly he's the guy that can unlock the defense. We all know that so congratulations, gabriel You are our pun into the week I guess this week we'll call it the golden bayless. How about that? Yes, nice job in honor of the razzies. Anyway Round of applause gabriel Yep, and then I think we decided to take a little different approach this week because some of the news was not necessarily as compelling or exciting And we decided to do a mailbag and we really appreciate a lot of the responses on this We got a lot of good questions Some are not that easy to respond. Hopefully we'll do them justice Yeah, let's kick things off this first question comes to us from andreus watt our regular listener of the show and always giving us Great comments. He said something i've been looking at recently and perhaps a bit of a loaded question It is indeed What score out of 10 would you give the current u-23 manager in terms of players developed and now in the first team squad Since his appointment in 2014 Hoo hot button topic at at everton at the moment the academy I think it's always kind of been something that's been scrutinized when you look at Fellow clubs in the premier league the way that they've developed talent and not necessarily even in their first team You can look at a club like united who are infamous for famous for doing that thing But clubs that have taken players from their academy and managed to get really high Sales for those players despite having proven very little at the top level. So ryan, i'll throw it to you first One to ten. What are you going to give? boy, i was probably three Again, the question starts to since his appointment in 2014 now. We talked about this in our last episode So check it out. We really go in detail on marcel brands whether whether he should stay or go I think was the title of it We got to remember too. I mean this is pre brands as well. The academy didn't function that way I mean david unsworth literally had his own transfer kitty Which is very strange to think of now We just hadn't really adopted what a lot of the big clubs were already doing There's been a lot of interesting movements on english academies some clubs like huttersfield and brentford have shut theirs down I think there's a challenge another thing that's really important to note too is Since brands has taken over too. We've been under a transfer ban for the academy starting in november 2018 just up this past november and the reason why that's significant is a lot of the reasons why a couple of these clubs are doing away with their academy is Typically what happens is in the smaller clubs They'll a player will get really good and when it comes down to giving them that professional deal They'll leave or they'll leave when they become a scholar and the attraction of a bigger academy Is strong so for us. We have some inherent advantages We're in a football hotbed and there's some local local areas that that are also very strong, but Put it this way it can't be that high or else we wouldn't have felt so compelled to sign guys like a man jane Or or jared brant wade last last january. I think that's an indictment of of the academy and and I mean we could just walk through it. We have anthony gordon right now. He seems like a bright spot He's truly an academy grad Um, I think the only thing really is redeeming because what else do we have really we've got we've got john joe still here um It's not really fair to indict the academy if he doesn't have a ton of raw talent Which I don't think he necessarily does his issues are maybe more physical and just innate. I think Uh kiran dow. We sold him benny is kind of on the outs tom davies came through Before that 1617 and then really matthew pennington. There's really the only person and I I don't think he was necessarily purely an academy guy There have been some sales though hum is I mean which has redeemed and it made it at least somewhat cost neutral Don't you think I mean, I think that's that's maybe part nothing massive, but at least somewhat redeeming Yeah, I mean it's look there's small fees, but when you're talking about players under 20 or That that haven't had any real experience again at the senior level You're not going to be commanding these ridiculous fees. So you're looking at this past summer We let phraser hornby go for 1.8 million pounds 1920 joe williams left for a million antony robinson 2 million and that was a weird one because of course you had that rumored 10 million pound move to ac milan that fell through at the last minute. He's of course now at fulham Antony anthony evans to padderborn 1819 we had nobody and then 1718 we had liam walsh for 1 million I mean talking about I mean the sales redeem it but but really andres is asking about Players developed in now in the first team squad and you mentioned it ryan There have been very very few and I think it's important to like make a distinction between Players actually truly what I would consider developed by the academy as in players that have truly come up through the system At all age levels or even a very Lower age level and made it through maybe like the u-12s and then come up through u-15s even But you're talking about the players that have been successful dominant covered luin mason holgate These are guys that we bought basically when they were in their late teens and kind of gave them that platform To move on to the first team, but these aren't players that we've developed from a very young age And and promoted them to the senior squad and I think that's been an area of concern for our vertonians. I think a Everyone it's really easy to get behind a player like anthony gordon now that he's finally breaking through because he's one of those the young local kid, uh, the fan base can rally around and get behind And saves you a ton of money if you can you can develop a really strong player Whereas we've had to buy buy buy oftentimes poorly in recent times But I think as you mentioned at the top the the youth academy strategy has been really disjointed for a long time And it seems like marcel bran's is one of the him coming in has been Has brought about a sort of realignment of the priorities and the strategy of the youth academy as a whole Yeah, and you look at the guys he brought in through at psv Uh, very impressive. I mean they lived off their academy in many ways a couple really big sales Um and guys that and it's not just about sales too. I don't want to a lot of times I always talk about buying age appropriate players for sell-on. It's not really for sell-on It's really for value value on the team too, you know, if you can buy someone who's cheaper develop them They become a 50 million dollar player. You're getting great production out of that person It's not the value is not some arbitrary future sale figure. It's about production. Um, yeah structurally it was not set up properly I think we agree with that. I think even tactically the last year we weren't even playing the same type of things I will say this though, and I think it's important to note that David's on david unsworth who has been the target of ire by many and evertonian in terms of The way he has run things um To me frankly that's on marcel bran's marcel bran's is the guy if david's unsworth can't do An accordance if he can't work within the accordance of the vision that the director football setting then he needs to go However, the interview he gave um There's a video interview of it as well I thought there were some really positive things that he said in it. So he he simply changed He's now the director of the academy, which is unique And he talked about this coordination between the senior and youth sides and and how they develop players For the first team and how he's now operating across elements. He's not just managing the u-23 team um Some of the interview you heard a little bit of his attitudes and u-23 wanting to win and stuff But really I I thought I want to quote this because I think it's important. Um And here it is it's marcel bran's and john eberle who is with everton before left and just came back Now the head ahead of academy coaching And I all share the same strategy and vision We want to align everything We want the same messages that are being said by carlo enchilotti in the first team to be said by myself David unsworth Uh in the u-23s by paul tatin u-18s all the way down to our pre-academy boys I want our players to develop quickly from one age group to the next and we all want to promote young players into the first team That sounds like the type of structure that you want and so that is a very refreshing interview that should encourage evertonians but roger and armstrong and I went back and forth a little bit today on twitter and this very thing and He we both said we're still skeptical. Yeah And that's fair. We should be skeptical because we haven't seen it I'm encouraged by that but there's no question. I'd say you didn't give a number by the way I said three. What was your final number because neither of us agree that it's been doing well I might even go tad lower and say 2.5 I mean It's for a big club like everton if we weren't under the transfer band I think I'd be even more critical and there are some guys with sims is down there. He's interesting um You know, there's some interesting players down there theory small seems like he's getting a lot of attention One of our full backs down there Um, so there's maybe some talent coming in and you can blame the transfer band. We can only blame it so much Yeah, and just one last word on the the academy. I mean, I think a lot of times There's a there's a large swath of fans that Truly underestimate the jump between like a u23 level And the Premier League it's massale Like like Benny Beningamy is a perfect example because I think he's some a player who has had a senior or a handful of senior appearances Yeah, and people are questioning. Well for short and defensive midfield. Why can't a guy like Beningamy come in and play? It's because he's clearly not good enough It's now been three or four managers who have all basically come to the same conclusion Because it's such a huge gap to excel at the u23 level by no means means you're ready to play at the Premier League Play in the Premier League and I think Just making that jump what we've struggled with is finding suitable loans to develop these players and kind of bridge that gap from u23 or even u18 To actual senior football I think that component whether we're developing players within the academy itself Finding suitable partners to send players out in good fits for those players to actually get regular playing time and in positions that they're regularly expected to play and then to To develop and improve has been kind of we've had a lot of misses on loans where guys just go and they sit on the bench Or they they get hurt instantly, which is a bit bad luck, but it just hasn't really worked out there Yeah, I mean we have a loan program now. So there is some thought into it. You look at john joe kenney last year I think he increased his value. It's too bad. I think brand's probably shopped him a bit this summer Couldn't find really maybe the right taker Lewis Gibson's a good example where he's a guy that you were expecting to make the leap to the championship His loan last year that fleetwood town was excellent. He was absolutely terrific there And we loaned him out to redding where lee and more their best players that left center back I hated that move. It didn't make any sense. Maybe he'll still get a chance Um, but we'll see jowl. Virginia was another one jowl got loaned. I thought that was a good loan And he just was terribly he had his audition was awfully got another one later and he blew that one too They fired the manager and it was just a disaster and some of that stuff's just unfortunate And that's what your risk, but but we do have an act of loan management management program But we have to do better. Um, all right, uh transitioning a little bit alex washburn out there Who we do interact with a lot Yeah, had an interesting comment and question on signings in january his thought he asked Do we think there will be any signings in january? I know in the past brands normally avoids this window Also, do you expect to see any departures besik belasi siggy bernard? um So as you know, uh, I wrote an article for toffee targets Last december in preparation for this exact question and I looked at marcel brands's transfer history at at both az pardon me az uh always gotta gotta do it gotta do it and and ps they psv um, and I know it's so bad Uh, and so a couple things I want to focus on so we gave an interview last december I think with phil kirk bride in the Liverpool echo, uh, maybe even been the december before that So brand stance is a little more specific. It's it's quote um He talked about you know, january business and and the idea that there are problems there Sometimes it can be because of injuries he said and it's something you have to sort out But most of the time it is clubs who are in trouble with their rankings in the table And they try and fix that in the january window. I don't believe in that Especially not in england because there is no preseason winter break. So That being said, there's opportunities there as well. So as quote was I don't like to sell in the winter I don't like to buy in the winter. They're not the best transfers. You have to be careful But my thought is too some people are desperate. There's opportunities. So However, so that sounds right. That sounds like boy. He must never do business, right james Doesn't that exactly if you listen that you think oh, he never does business at all Yeah, it sounds like he views it as kind of like a panic button moment for a lot of clubs And that he doesn't necessarily subscribe to uh that philosophy Yeah, but then when you go back and look at the history then in in the netherlands at least at a minimum So in his prior 13 winter windows with az and psv brands bought in at least one player in 12 of them Um Now he did different things at both. He had different situations psv had an academy az had almost nothing coming out of the academy He almost never bought a player over 25 in january and would only bring in older players via loan to meet an obvious need That's what I saw Other people got to remember too. That's the off season for certain leagues too So he did buy out of mexico south america He was smart about getting some players out of some maybe less popular locations again The jump to the premier league is bigger. Uh, but he did do a lot of selling he moved a lot of players out so Uh, my thought is that I do think we'll see some movement and we'll get to that in a second too Where we talk about what we think is going to happen. So he will absolutely do something now his first january window He did very little with everton In terms of ringing players and he moved plenty of players out and then last january he brought in jared brainwave and and he's And he moved toson out on loan. Um, I think dowell And so he made some moves. He's got to make moves this january So you can almost guarantee it based on his history. Will it be big? Will it be a big splash? I don't know but we can almost guarantee it's going to happen Yeah, and I think it's important to recognize also that we're still or relatively early in december And there's a lot that can happen with our fixture list a lot of games coming thinking fast Um, and so we don't know what the injury picture is going to look like knock on wood Here that there's no serious injuries and where you're actually healthier by the end of the month Then we are right now, but of course, we know that Anything's possible And so I think it's a little perhaps premature to be predicting any incomings But we know that it felt like towards the end of the summer transfer window The brands had a little bit of unfinished business as in there were several guys that he probably wanted to get out But wasn't able to move before the deadline true Yeah, very true. So we're going to hit that in a second too. Um, but onto the next topic david taylor Is out there and he has a very this is a loaded question I don't know how deep we want to go into it because I think it's fairly complicated But it's why does psg get so much out of moise keen and we haven't it feels like it's more than He's got better players around him at psg although i'm willing to be mistaken very humble of you david Hamas, what do you think about this a big question? Yeah, it is a big question And I think it's been a little bit exasperating for evertonians to see moise keen Succeed the way he has and and pretty much rejuvenate his career, which had kind of stalled last season with everton Now that he's at psg It's pretty straightforward for me. I mean it's liga and in the champions league against some some weaker opposition But he's getting the chances. He's playing regularly and I think I think tuho is playing to his strengths A little bit more and I don't know if moise keen was ever a great fit Um, I think he was probably pretty frustrated early on that he wasn't able to break into the side over calvert luin How that affected his his entire season as whole? Unsure, but it's a lot easier when you've got teams having to worry about imbappe and neymar on either flank Probably frees up some space for you and it's a little more complicated than that But I also think We don't need to overthink it too too much here and he's getting on the end of stuff and he's finishing well Magically, but I mean if you look back on it. He did really well at who ventis. He did really well at verona He's doing well at psg. In fact, he would have done incredibly well at verona at an unbelievably young age like 17 He just got hurt during that loan spell And he's done decently well for the italian national team everton kind of sticks out like a sore thumb I still think part of it's just Situation I don't feel like marco selva had a great plan for him You know, he was playing with kind of three attackers He even played him off the right and said he played on the right never really played on the right I don't know what the heck he was talking about And ultimately, you know, he fit in more as the central striker and dominik was emerging. So I It was just disappointing. I think I also think, you know, his he was a lot more productive than people realized too He didn't score as many goals, but he actually showed some decent playmaking capabilities And to me, I just don't think he quite got the chances I mean, you got to give a young guy repeated chances and let him get in the groove. He never did Um And we you know, we talked about this what probably the second episode we did for topic tv And I think both of us are the consensus is we couldn't think of a reason why he would want to come back No, um, and hey, you know who ventis will probably be in a bidding war with psg for him and that will be fine um, and you know We'll move on. I mean to me it's it's more just opportunities. They're playing to his strength But you could see he's more confident. Um, he's been a little more simplistic playing off the back shoulders of Players he's been told to basically occupy center backs He's getting decent service, but I mean some of the finishing has been pretty nasty So yeah, yeah a combination of that just maybe us not having a real plan of giving them a good chance. At least that's my take I think that's totally reasonable. Let's move on to our next question from Great friend of the show and discord server moderator ethan zander the man comes to us Yes, the man truly This question it concerns rich arleson and specifically his form ethan's question is He has had a drop He's had a drop for us this season, but it's still scoring for the national team Is it in your opinion a result of bad luck? personnel tactics or technique It's an interesting question ryan I mean you look at I think the red card in three match band certainly didn't help any of his stats No, I think that's kind of square one But you look at some of the underlying numbers as we tend to do on the show and they're really Kind of against that narrative that he's not performing as well Yeah, you start breaking it down. I mean It's a rupal pogba. Of course immediately jumps on ethan on this one and uh saying he's been substantially better this year than last Eighth in the premier league for non penalty expected goals plus expected assists. He was 30 second last year. It's a fair point Um So what we saw in general and you can break this down like looking at his finishing It's statistically it's been awful. Uh, this is a guy that exceeded his expected goals by about four goals Non penalty goals the last two years. He's been consistently good at finishing He's at like three already this year and he's only played How many matches, you know, not that many if you consider the band that is Shocking really statistically. Um, so you could tell he's just been a little off finishing But boy his creation numbers are way up, you know, his Um shot creation actions per 90 from open play is almost, you know, three and a half That's like a woe be territory in arsenal, man I was hoping you weren't gonna say that I couldn't help it. Um, but no, it's really good And and he's really contributed a lot to other people scoring including dom his touches in the box are way up He's getting the touches. It's not that he's not um You know, I just feel like he's maybe looking a little less precise I I think my immediate answer would be maybe he is a little rusty a little worn down Maybe he's feeling pressure. He is getting a lot more touches. So that kind of says well, yeah, he should be producing more Um, is he producing exactly the same way? I don't know, but I I can't deny watching the leads match having six shots Having countless opportunities in the final third and not really doing anything And then I really felt like at burley a couple times he tried to play like kind of these tight short crosses in When he was already in the box and I just wanted to say richie lad Cut to your right and rip one. You know what I mean? Like, um, so yeah, maybe there's maybe there's some mental Game issues there, but I really too believe he's a good finisher and he's just been a bit unlucky I'd like to see him put a little pressure on chelsea Um, I'm confident that he'll start banging them in soon I I don't think there's enough for me to say necessarily he's off yet, but no Yep, some interesting numbers though the fishing finishing sticks out in particular Yeah, and you can tell like he's had some really really good shots or Shot opportunities that he's kind of scuffed and hit weekly and yeah, I haven't really gone our way But like like you said Ryan the shot creating actions. He's at like three and a half shot creating actions per 90 Which is almost a full I think it's one higher than any of obviously we're early on and this is really high though I mean james is the only one that's you know, obviously, but he's he's he's on a different level And I also think maybe some of the goal stuff I mean he did play extended periods the last season as a second striker alongside calvert luin So maybe in that wide roll. He's not inclined to uh to score quite as much But you look at again, he's attempting more dribbles. He's succeeding with more dribbles He's carrying the ball for longer distances And looking at his per match touches again. He's there's nothing that really sticks out that's Unusually low. I mean he's still getting on the ball quite a bit and he's still creating a lot so Perhaps fatigue. I mean he he remember when he came to everton that first season and he hadn't had a break in like over a year It's still been with the way that the he had I guess a break when covid forced the season to Be suspended but other than that. I mean he's been with the brazil national team. He's been in training He's been really he's a busy guy. He's still very young. He's gonna have these dips In in finishing, but I think I think a big part of it is he's asked to do a little bit of a different job out wide Still looking to score, but he's not necessarily in the box We know he's a prolific score with both feet and his head when you're in those wide areas He's probably looking to create and find calvert luin and runners into the box Rather than maybe create for himself and dom's hot right now. His finishing is good I mean, I think he needs to improve other aspects of his game But if a guy's on fire like that making good runs In the spaces there look re charlison's clearly creating more space for dom His scoring is not just him part of it is is re charlison so he deserves credit for that But yes, it would be nice to see him finish a little better and start banging some in I'm optimistic that it will happen. I just don't think that that those numbers are sustainable for him. He's too good a finisher But anyway, so yeah, so queuing up kind of the last question here to wrap up the episode Um, let's see. Zach Blandy from our discord server discord server. He's uh, Definitely has imposed some really interesting questions here. So, um The first one is what is our ideal perfect winner transfers for us in and outs? I'm not going to start naming names because that would just take all day It's like an episode in itself. I do think we probably should do one But maybe winter transfer window when we get a little closer like you said a lot going to happen still um, and then You know, he made a comment about you know saying that we should remind viewers that carlo should not be sacked I really don't think most people think that anyway Um, I think that's a greater episode as well too Um, carlo may just look at things differently. He has maybe made some mistakes tactically. We've pointed them out on a regular podcast um But yeah, I mean I I think And then realistic expectations about dominant calvert louing Winning the golden boot to me. He's got a shot, but he's got some decent creators around him But I I think getting into the ideal window. I think is a little more compelling So I wanted to kick off with that one and james you want to offer the dominant calvert louing thing you may but um So what are your thoughts initially? I mean, who could we see go out and uh, do we really expect some significant players in? I mean the incomings are going to be tricky as we talked about a little bit earlier, but for me, I think Some kind of cover at right back is Really really high on the priority list. I mean in our summer transfer Assessments and windows and and something we've been talking about for months now is the how important a backup for shameless is We can see how limited we are at really both full-back positions now that both dina and colman are out with injuries Hopefully colman will potentially be back for chelsea, but we'll see and so depth at that right back For whatever reason, I mean he's playing ben godfrey there over john joe kenney So I think that speaks volumes. Yep for how highly he thinks about him, which is too bad because again local lab but For me right back cover and I do think that if we could somehow move chank toast and out and get in a different Second striker option. I would be really happy And maybe even someone on the right wing We know hamas is going to be probably playing there regularly for us But in the event that he goes down something a little bit different to his profile Maybe a little bit more pace a little bit more Someone to get in behind defenses would be interesting for me, but this is nothing new. These are things we've talked about for a while I think we were still I think Too maybe too heavy with or too too many bodies in central midfield But not enough useful people in midfield and I think that's going to be An interesting challenge for brands to address is a gilfy cigarettes and someone who is able to move in a january window Contract winding down. I think that has some potential, but again, you don't want to move too many guys out I mean, you can look to give guys opportunities, but I just I just fail to see how gilfy cigarettes and really offers us too much In in very many situations for the rest of the season Yeah, ultimately we had guys like bernard also getting an offer from roma who carlo wanted to keep and I think he's still a good player But you know, is are we getting enough use for him? Could you take the money there? I think the incomings are depending on the outcomings at this point Gilfy rejected the moved alcohol. That was his decision It sounds like from what we understood and you've got guys like belasi and besik who are still out there lossal Who are whose contracts are up and you know aren't even regent, you know Belasi and besik aren't even registered So I could see maybe a deal being negotiated so that they could find a new club now rather than the summer It's not going to be some financial bonanza for us, but those are solid guys. I mean yannick's an entertaining guy I think he would love to move on and find his his new spot. I think that's great Um and jank. I don't know what kind of market there is for him Obviously, he another bad luck everton story. He got hurt or else palace probably would have exercised his option For 20 million that would have been a nice incoming Who knows maybe a moise keen deal could be struck in january. I'd be shocked about that. You never know Yeah, I think you gotta give that some more time. Yeah, I doubt that happens really I think let the bidding start in the summer. Maybe covet will turn around. He could really be worth a lot Yeah, I'd like to see the right side improved It would be ideal if we could get a right back that wasn't just a backup for colman But an improvement like someone who's truly a good athlete big strong up and down the pitch And it would be interesting a wide player that could also maybe play striker It might be a little different profile, you know, but ideally someone on the right side that can score You know, but someone that could also play within possession Not someone like the oh that would just run in behind and and you know still struggle to keep the ball He's got to play within the way carlo wants to play The leon bailey shouts are interesting. I think he'd probably be very expensive But a player like that does make a bit of sense. He's got some versatility He is definitely very much an attacking player. He has electric pace Something like that like a guy like chuck weezy. I think is too expensive too But but that type of player if you want a right sided player, uh bailey's a left footer So chuck weezy they can cut inside and score, you know players like that, you know And there's there are many lists of them and we can go through them as we get closer as rumors happen But no, I don't want to see like someone like him td come in and we have a We already have too many center backs and his knees are his knees are shot Okay, we do not want him. He's done. He's crocked. Uh, I mean he was talented at one point Jesse lingard. First of all, brandon's is not going to buy jesse lingard Do we not learn anything from the marcus rojo saga? He's not buying someone like that people. He's not a dunce He's got it together. He's been a fairly wise guy You can argue with the success of certain people and i and the james tavier and a tavier and Link the right back from from rangers He's like 29 years old I don't get that link And all that seems very strange to me and like like would steven drawer really sell us someone where they're Actually looking like they're going to win the league in scotland. No, that's not going to happen So so I mean some of these things we've got to learn lessons from the past and just write them off Some of them are just either agents posturing or people just talking silliness And we do need to remember too the f a just release new rules on governing body endorsements. They're a little bit tricky I've been going through them in detail for some work i'm doing outside the pod and Yeah, they're tricky. I don't think they're going to prohibit us if we're buying from the bigger leagues The main, you know, kind of the big five. I think we'll be okay But it's a consideration, you know and I said but the summer is going to be Really really interesting But again, I think it's dependent on the outs and I think if we get some players that that could help on the right side I I think we could do it. Let's not forget to I think it's really going to be important to see if JP bameen can really come back and contribute because if he comes in there Now you've got like a chi that can play as a sitting six He can even play as a center back if you wanted to take some risk and move one of the center backsack I mean, maybe someone would want to pay money for so I don't know I mean, there's just so much could happen to your point But bameen could almost be like a new signing. I don't think we could hang our head on him too much But let me tell you what that chi was really a good player in germany and france before that He is a super talent. He could play behind Allen and decoray and let them just attack he could provide more stability and play as like a twin kind of pivot with the lawn and let hammers go to the middle so many possibilities, but Yeah, I I don't know. I think I've said my piece not to belabor the point. Um, I think it'll depend on the outs But yeah, an ideal window would shore up the right side gives an attacking option as well as maybe A bit more adaptability with a better athlete or right back Yeah, I mean, I think that the jpg he he does have the potential to be like a new signing But I don't want people to get too too excited because I think you really really have to be very careful and In considerate with how you kind of introduce him back into the fold, which I'm sure that we will be so I have no question No, really doubts about that But just the bad luck that he's had, you know that he's Probably cannot wait cannot wait to get back out on the pitch which who can blame him So I'm looking forward to seeing the impact that he can potentially have but I'm not It'll be a really pleasant surprise when I'm not getting my expectations up too too high just yet And just before we wrap I did want to quickly touch on the on the dcl golden boot because he's of course leading the race right now So I did remiss if I didn't acknowledge it but To to actually answer Zach's question should he be the favorite? I think the penalties is going to be what kind of ultimately and he's going to have to score Almost all his goals from open play unless we change who we let take our penalties, which I don't think I doubt Although he did have that nice penalty for england while on duty So some some potential there, but he's going to really struggle to keep Up the tally with guys like jamie varty who are going to regularly take penalties or even like a harry kane or someone like that Not like we'll get any penalty calls. Anyway, what we had one right and we don't care exactly so whatever Whatever all right folks. 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