 Doesn't feel super safe. Should we go all the way to the top? Yeah. Okay. All right safe safe up here. Good morning, John Well, that was the most elaborate one so far. We had like nails and we could put it there permanent Oh, don't worry. He'll be he'll be there in the background. I got a plan. I got a massive forehead can hold him in place Well, hello Hank. Hi. Happy last day of pizza is greetings from the treehouse We decided to do it in a treehouse. Yeah, cuz that was an option. We never had a treehouse growing up We did we had a fort we had a fort wasn't in a tree But it was this it was literally just this but without the tree wraps around yeah It was a great place to get up to mischief. I got grounded from that fort. Did you from throwing bottles off of it? Oh, that's not cool. I remember doing one of my elementary school science fairs from that fort where I counted the number of people who drove past Wearing seat belts. Nice. That's that's great. Even back then I was a big fan of government regulation Can we gonna make it in the video is it? I think it may take once to get the light off my face. So we're doing this He's gonna be like that. I'm gonna be like this. I always wanted to be always Criticizes me for not wearing a hat. Yeah here I am so earlier today Hank and I went to an art gallery where we saw this amazing art made entirely out of like dandelions or Daffodils or else iron oxide paints and then we went to the IMA and saw a cool fashion show I did it was great. It's been a good day And now we're in a treehouse John took my phone and gave me and like took video So maybe I will have put video over that I'm just trying to get some kind of b-roll situation so that we don't have to see me wearing this hat You take the hat off then I'm all blown out, which is what you're worried about. Well, I was thinking you could just move a little It's on happy last day of pizza miss everybody. I am transcending. So listen Hank's been raptured. It's more gonna be a vlog brother situation Sorry about the wind noise. It's just Hank's getting raptured rapture I want to do something different something we've never done on the bug where this channel before Okay, I'm sorry trying to understand what the sun is there's so long It's the big bright thing in this guy really weird. There's something maybe something that we've never done before. Yeah Here's what it is. Yeah, it's an educational video, huh with both of us. Oh in it What are we educating on educating you on planets? I heard there are eight of them They don't exist what this is like yesterday when you told me that we don't know what light is I don't this is not gonna be good for me I was with the Nobel Prize in physics in part was about how we don't know what light is or even reality But we're not gonna talk about that wait what we're not gonna talk about that We don't know why there's matter in the universe We don't know what light is and we don't know what's real and we don't really know whether time is real in fact And also it seems like the universe is actually two-dimensional and the third dimension that we experience the space Is a kind of is a different kind of dimension Which is really throwing me for a loop, but I'm doing it. I know I know I hear you I'm moving around in it right now. Look at me. Look at three-dimension. Wait. I'm not three-dimensional to them We were in that pizza Pizza that gallery you're in that gallery from the Sprouse guy was his name something Sprouse close france. Nope That's a different Sprouse. Those are the Sprouse brothers Steven Sprouse. Couldn't tell you that the fashion designer. Yeah, yeah We were in the Steven Sprouse gallery and we're walking around and looking at all these like his whole sort of Decades of work and then I hit Catherine come up to me and I said someday. It'll be like this, but just pizza John's Nothing says future museum fashion show there's like pizza. There's a lot of good pizza John art over the years. It's true And so who knows yeah, you're right. We should have we should start a pizza John gallery Yeah, it'd be hard to get all of them together. Anyway, that's not what I wanted to talk about We don't know what light is we don't know what time is we don't know what reality is but planets Aren't real planets are real obviously planets are real in a way that any anything is but the idea of planets isn't a true category Well, I would argue that very few categories are true categories because there is this weird non one-to-one relationship between Reality and language by the way. I'm the only one who has a face according to the camera Yeah, maybe out of focus and this was my idea to film in the treehouse So I am paying this is paying for it. Is that the only thing you wanted to teach me? No, there are things that do have true categories like protons are protons Electrons are electrons. I think and people will argue me with me about it, but that life is a true category Close planets as they are defined now when we redefined them and it excluded Pluto And that's sort of a very contentious thing and people get upset about it But they the reason I'm not upset about it is because I don't think that planets exist And I think that most people would agree that planets don't exist And I'd like to explain to you some ways in which planets don't exist Okay, the current set of categories that we use is it has to be as like has to have formed itself into a sphere Which they call hydrostatic equilibrium Pluto is is a sphere so is series Yeah, so are lots of moons, but then another one is that it has to have cleared its orbit So it has to be big enough that like the the area that it travels It sucked up all the stuff in that orbit and that is just A category we decided in order to make it Make it feel Like there is a thing called a planet and draw a line that works in our solar system But there's gonna be fuzzy parts in other solar systems. We'll tell you another way. I'm not convinced planets exist I'm not convinced that mercury has more in common with jupiter than mercury has in common with like europe Absolutely, this is one of my so I think that a very clear distinction in our solar system Is the difference between a gas giant and a terrestrial planet That seems like a way bigger deal. That is one of that is one of my arguments for why planets don't exist Because why would you put those two things in one category? Another thing is that uh jupiter in particular has these four very large Moons one of them being larger than mercury So it's not certainly not size that makes a thing a planet But those moons are going around jupiter not around a star You're right and that's so that's like the final thing But if jupiter were 10 times bigger it would be a star Wait, so there's no difference between jupiter and a star except for size Yep, so imagine that world where jupiter is 10 times bigger all those moons are now planets It just happened nothing changed about them But they are now planets just because the thing that they are orbiting happened to be more massive I think it's really weird that we're filming this One of our first videos ever that's in the sun Like I have really direct view of the sunlight And i'm suddenly aware of the fact that i'm only here because there is a like source of eternal Not quite eternal unfortunately light shining down upon this planet that has made all of this possible But it's also like the one thing i can't look at It's so metaphorically resident Yeah, the thing that makes me possible is the thing that is the only thing in our natural lives that we can't look at Can we move to the other side of the tree? No, no the video is so bad. This is the bit now This is the you you were like or is the current you were like man, I really need to be in the tree house for this video Not ugly. We're gonna try it. I bet you're right. I bet it's just gonna be The exact same problem. This would be the worst way for us to go, especially when we both die Yeah, well, I mean that way at least we don't have to decide what to do when the other one dies As I said, it is no better over here. It's really not might be worse There's so much tree around though the visible reminder of the invisible like shining down upon us all the time Maybe if I get in your shadow And then another way in which planets don't exist is sometimes a thing that is definitely a planet Gets ejected from a solar system and has no star anymore It could be a gas giant. It could be a terrestrial planet But nobody would say that it's not a planet one of my all-time favorite memories is One time we were talking about that phenomenon where a planet gets ejected out from a solar system and the planet is just like Hurling through the vacuum of space for no. Yeah, there's no daytime. No nighttime It's always dark on the planet and you were like, well, there would be no light So there would probably be no life and then you paused and said unless they made their own light And I think about that all the time I think phosphorescence is one of the coolest things that we do because the the idea of making our own light is so Beautiful like the idea of storing the sun's light in some indirect way And then using it to create our own light like fireflies do or angler fish or whatever humans do Oh, yeah, we do it, too We can actually make something brighter than the sun which doesn't it had never happened on earth until us We did it Joe John is a hard time saying we did it without saying Joe I can't I can't I cannot celebrate I cannot celebrate any kind of victory because then I have to say we did it And then I have to pause for three seconds and say Joe. You're gonna be the next president of the United States And I'm gonna do that like in 30 years when people are like, I don't understand the reference I remember playing tribute pursuit with our parents When we were, you know teens, and they would always know the vice president like of the of the Spiro Agnew Oh, and I'm like, how do you know that and I'm like, of course, like I know all of the vice presidents. I know Dan quail Dan quail is yeah, sure just barely a vice president, right? I'm just barely still being held on to by public knowledge Oh, yeah, he's on nothing personal Dan. I know you're a fan of the of the vlog, but uh, yeah, he's barely hanging on He's an indiana boy, right? Some would hope a future resident of crown hill cemetery I'm glad that you're looking out for crown hill john. I thought about writing him a letter saying I know you live in arizona now dan, but have you considered This is a great format I think the great the great part is that you can see certain parts of our faces And I explain to you why planets don't exist and in a similar way Pizza also definitely doesn't exist and this we get in these arguments about whether a hot dog is a sandwich About whether the ocean is soup about whether a calzone is pizza eh Pizza doesn't exist soups don't exist. The ocean Kind of also doesn't exist. Where's the line? There's all that brackish water Where river area almost everything that we think of as dichotomous is in fact spectral Yeah, I don't like definitions that are just lists of of Categories or lists of like like ways to include and exclude certain things Right, but that's a lot of the only way to do it and I you see a lot of talk about like how fish don't exist They don't and how trees don't exist. Yeah, they don't Also, if that's the way you're looking at it basically nothing exists But I think the purpose of saying that these categories Aren't really real is reminding people that there is a difference between the way we describe things and the way they are That like language is inherently Less rich than reality Right at the same time. We are not gonna Actually not need a word fish. We still need language. Yeah. Yes, but if we can do this at the same time Recognize the limits of these categories while still acknowledging their importance in our language and in our ability to communicate with each other I think that that is a more interesting discussion than whether or not Pluto should be a planet Right, but it's not as but it's not as sticky. It doesn't get people as exciting I know they want to fight for the thing that they had and Pluto is a great name for a planet Did you know john that um That there are three planets that have elements named after them actually four But you have to be really weird to get the fourth Mercury Oh, yeah, you're right. There's five. That was my first one. I that one that one seemed like a slam dunk Yeah, that was an early one. Um uranium. Yep, plutonium. Uh-huh if you count Pluto So what's between Uranus and Pluto? Neptunium, that's right, and they are actually all in a line Uranium, neptunium and plutonium one thing about hank is that even if you've seen the tiktok You still have to let him finish Ha ha ha ha ha And then there's one other uh-huh, and I'm not gonna tell it to you. Oh I want to see it in the comments. That's the business because it's a it's a tricky one We're trying to drive engagement Let's end with a call to action hank like any good youtuber would it's the last day of pizza miss pizza miss.com Pizza doesn't exist, but pizza miss does. Oh, there you go. He is wearing a pizza pizza miss shirt He just hasn't he just put he hit it away the whole time. This was a trick I wanted to make an educational video so that we could just have a long ass Last day of pizza miss video are we chatting? I'm sure he is. John will continue to see you all weekend Thanks so much for having me over and indeed the only reason we'll continue to see each other is because of this light This is a visible sign of the invisible vision light It's a cliche, but you're no t.s. Elliott I don't I don't want to hurt your feelings, but you're no t.s. Elliott light the visible reminder of the invisible Visible what is it nothing? What's the quote go google it as t.s. Elliott wrote great poetry Needed to be understood to communicate did he something like that? John's phone just fell out of the tree. Oh, no, it's fine. It's soft down there. Let's go find out I'm gonna drop the rug Rugs just going off the side Get your pizza miss rug I think that they're on sale is a discount. You could just hide them in the forest Just hide them in the forest How is it? Uninjured all right Not bad. I was I was certain it would be fine Yeah, it's unlocked and I immediately saw Kanye West's uh screenshots from instagram. That's probably not probably avoid that It's working