 Look I'm the last speaker on the panel this afternoon so Frank I'll try and make up some time which I promise to do. Ron you given that you said our builders won't be at work so much with some of those potential negatives you raised. I said it's been an interesting time for our industry too and whether we know it or not you know this year we've seen 140 or thereabouts builders that are no longer in business so it's a stressful time for everybody right at this moment. Thanks very much for having me here today Frank. As representing the building industry firstly I do have to acknowledge for those who've got their notes so I've taken a demotion here this morning Frank I'm not out of the National Office on the Executive Director of MBAA CT which is more important for me they're at the other end of the scale there they do as we tell them so. Look at the delivery end from the building construction industry obviously we've got an important role to play we know we've got an important role to play and we're having a number of discussions about how we actually provide builders that are able to meet the needs of people in this expanding market. I was drawn as I did a little bit of research for today to a quote that I saw which was a person's home is a sanctuary a place for rest for socialising with friends and sharing life with significant others it is an important platform for life in the community and that was in a housing support for young people with disabilities transitioning to independent living and study by the Youth Council of Victoria and I think as I said it's something we can all relate to. We hear so much out there about housing stress we hear so much out there about housing affordability we know or we possibly know that the Senate Standing Committee on Economics their inquiry on housing affordability has now been extended from June 14 this year to report by November it's the magnitude of the task the magnitude of the complexity housing supply the housing supply council notes that up to 167,000 people are unable to meet their their needs we're seeing significant changes around ownership and rental again contained with the latest or the last NHS report. MBA national forecast notes around 200,000 housing starts by around 2017 but we've got a current under supply not we're understanding the comments of Ron of potentially around 300,000 dwellings how much of that needs to be do we need to consider in terms of dealing and with people with special needs and and with NDIS because I think as the industry we haven't we haven't necessarily come to grips with that yet what are the potential obligations of our industry and how do we work with the disability sector and others to actually deliver on that need because it's no question it's a more complex environment out there today than it ever was we've moved a long way from the innocence of the 50s and 60s and 70s and so I think we've it's beholden on all of us to to understand so what role we might have to play I think the the housing sector the both private and public we need to be as one in this new challenge I note some commentary that the housing sector has traditionally designed and build to form rather than to meet need I think largely that's changing and quite considerably it may have been somewhat true in the past but I think we understand now there is a greater ability and I think there is an ability and an imperative to respond to a diverse community one that we've got greater recognition of in in this 21st century I'm pleased to say you know from our own end we've got builders who are working quite specifically in that area and in 2009 I think it was Master Builders national award winner came from the ACT who specialised in delivering housing for those with special needs and I think that's you know well it was a great feather in the the the cap of that young builder I was at a forum yesterday on capital Metro light rail and what does that mean for everybody and it's about new range of choice and options I think that there's there's no question that that through that project the government has is clearly has in mind this diverse economy this a diverse community that we're dealing with there's been all sorts of speculation about what might happen around capital Metro and and it's not just about putting people in in multi-unit and the high density living people want detached housing they need detached housing as well we've had a lot of discussion about potential adaptive reuse of buildings there's a lot going on in that space at the moment in terms of office accommodation older office accommodation what's the ability to convert some of that place in very good locations that might deal with some of the requirements of those with special need it's adjacent to town centres we've we've seen schools as well where there's a lot of discussion about both aged care and schools there are a lot of conversations going on I met with the chief executive of liveable housing and that's for people for the older people in the community to deal with their transition but obviously again in discussions with the ACT government a lot of consideration around universal housing and how we can actually work best with our industry and again as I said we do acknowledge our role to play in this in this space I just remind people I don't know whether you'd know but last year we built a thing called charity house and that was working with the ACT government and that that house was was specifically built with universal design in mind and and I must say we were very pleased because we raised five hundred eighty two thousand dollars for the for some people in the homelessness area and housing area of need as I said it's a complex situation the complex subject matter and it's something that we're all coming to grip with grips with sometimes I get concerned when I hear that government isn't going to do it or can't do it then that begs the question what are the initiatives what are the incentives that that can be provided for others and it will take some incentive to participate in some of those solutions as we go ahead over time I said from our industry's perspective we've got a lot to do we are having a lot of discussion around training and the need to train but we need to understand that in the context of the need of the community we can't just go out there and so we'll train people and then we deliver something that's just not needed so as I said is a lot of conversations going on affordable housing housing action plan of the ACT government the phase three of that report noted 14 action items it discusses the 20% of new development around or development around affordable housing and other initiatives and Edd I think it was point number 14 spoke about an in-globo release of up to 60% of property for affordable housing and another need so we'll wait and see what happens there look Frank in the interest of time I'm happy to finish off there except to say that we have been in discussion with CSD training fund authority to see what role we can actively play in this space because we think it's really important and so that our industry is prepared and they're able to do it it's technology there's all sorts of things available there but it's got a bit of a cost effective way that that will deal with solutions for everybody so thank you