 Jonas is a very talented person Even during this time Even during this time Even during this time conversations a missed Namastructure nahakiki nha kwa handa apana apa. Na kuna maalu na ina echa jimagari. Nanda kwenye nasana marafizango we nwa kuna maiyadu. Wakupema dinga wha nyesho. Nanda , katomatoka, aa! Actually Kyalema Zuma when he help. Then he goes. And then disappears. Does not do the content, comes back again. Ano nana been maze hinda kuna adi ni gani apo ya politiko satai and bahia. Nanda taka hwa nisa kwehhei funguga. Ananda kabo om. Anubie kuja. Tu nne funguatu, ne funguatu, nne panga visurivi le nesaku wa. Naiya ya kwenima kwawefa naido kwawefa Uda za kwawefa, resistance Tatawasa onantaka kweingengengestu, anafilika mahindustri. Haiwak. Yeti kweli kweli, kuna viditu zeni wa saa nipiya hawa dhu. So the time he came, the last time the information came up, this anivshaon na panganai, na uitu eivi neivi, nekawambiya. I wanted to read my response. What was he meaning? It's on Friday, 18th November last year. Bro, I have one problem with you. You always speak good ideas of the things you want to do, then you don't. You keep shifting to other ideas. This is like the fifth idea now. You always want to start. Do you know how far you have been now? What's up, guys? Welcome to SPM Buzz. My good name is Miss Kithinji. And this is Buzz with stars, Karibu Sana, in case you have not subscribed. We are almost 150,000 subscribers. So kindly bless us with that subscribe. Please subscribe to our channel. Now, guys, today I am joined by two stars, super creatives in this country. Thank you. One is Julie Kanakama, Eddie Butita, and YY Comedia. We are humbled. Karibu Sana. And guys, today we are here. Apana, do you want to say more? We didn't know. You didn't know? Really, guys, inuhumili tia mamonaji. Sababa se akuna shida. Now, today we are going to be talking about the state of art in this country. And art includes music, you know, comedians, actresses, all these people that are into entertainment industry. So we are here to talk about that state. And what happens because we have seen some of these brands and talents make money out of their brand and others fail at it? What really happens? Is it the structure? Is it someone that is just not knowing what to do? Nenataka liya utuongile, your story. And who is better to talk about this other than two of you guys? So what's the state of art currently? Sayezi, why, why? Sayezi, I think art in mefika, pulesine, sasaan do inataka. Do ina, ina li puka sasafizuri. Sayezi, pwendi, wasaani wana chiteke mea more than even ina bust. Ina li puka sasafizuri. Ina li puka. When you used to think ina li puka, pay kwa ina li puka. So sayezi wana pata, wasani wana naza jiteke mea without having to depend on people. Jamana naza tokyatu from nowhere, adjikrietu from scratch, abild kituyake, what will you follow, what will you pende na mekdo out of it. Without any gatekeepers, without sedui, brokagani, like clean too, we've seen kinamoya, we've seen now, tiktokas, we've seen comedians, waskits, nini, even musicians. So na feel ni kama sayezi asa liyo, kawa isi niwa hans, wakati asa liyo, infasa tu kona wam gono. Mani nila malala mi shiza, ah kinana niwana fanya, kinana nani, kinana nani, na think nao i mirodi ho. Do you have the same sentiments, butchita? Ya, I think so. I think I think a raya gatekeepers ina fedof, because you see how this thing was structured sometimes ago it was like we had a few individuals who used to determine if you will be successful in that. So people felt like it was being regulated in terms of who is going to be famous now to na muwani, wu yu, wu yu dutampe ap opportunities, wu nawa. But then kukuata nezo conflict, na ni kuna talent, buto ataki kuhi penyesha. But now we see things have changed in a way that that power is in your hand regardless of we saying no, niwe wena simuia, kuhendi o no, niwe wena kameraya kuhendi o no. For me, I think the power moved from structure problems, gatekeeper problems to now personal problem and discipline. So ni kiangali ya ati iwi na ona kama wilo mesema, why is it that people make money out of it and others don't? Na feel personal factors that might put you in the best place to make money. Dio sasa zina failua tu na pata. Una pata kuna ok, let's not ignore pia kuna luck. Ya. Una mze lupia halabda na na productivity, na wono na sema kuhlaki, but we use emanga even the untalented that are lucky they are consistent. We use emanga iwo. So pata yes, tu na sema na talent, buta kuh consistent. Ya. No ona. So that is a fact of consistency. Consistency. That is a factor of discipline. Now, one good role gatekeepers played part from you kuhatiaji is instilling discipline. Wono na wewa ni msa ni kuna msa ezi kuchieza kua radio, jwana demand certain kind of music or certain type of behaviors from you. Wazi shuapu melewa kwa studio na ona taka interview. Ono ona. I think you know the role module kuna play ya kuh create discipline. Welewa sewa li pati iwa iki tu kumkono. Ni powerful ni na tu meki a moment ni bat kuna in disciplinia winawa. No angusha. Eh na kwangushe na kuh crash. So na pata penginebi mi persona lemini tu na pendaku lala na pendaku kunyua. Ni ni kikunyua na jisa usifani usani unona. Buti juku na wazi bagi itkipona tu chunga pani na na jo hele blango do ni kipita na kum successful na zaku behave towards hele blango. Buti na ni kuna kwa nyumba angu mimi ni mimi mimi na jidi sa idea na pata ni kuna too much freedom ni nanda kusabotaj kaziya kwa. So the discipline factor. And another discipline factor kuna tumob kuna character kuna alcohol and substance abuse kuna iyo kuna actually character ni imi nona nga character ni sama drug. Like character ni drug tuflani imi baya character problem. Nia. So you're the biggest. Ya. You're gonna be the biggest. The most elated artist putting things out there but your character. Nia. Kwa zivanya kazi na mutuka maja complain. Nia. Ya na deliver things late. You're just in discipline with the clients how we behave towards them. Even other people even the audience meetings. Meetings nona. So yes you have talent but ufani zivi to straight. So people you know I don't know people like buying convenience. Nia. Musa nona. So it's a tubeti ya kama fani shuguli tubeti. Atasumbua. Atasumbua. Adanibata ijiwa by Friday. Nia. Nini. Natrasa idea na kutink. Nia. Nani timesa nifla nia patukujetsumbua nia. Nia. Nia. So it's a big video ni mezi on asana. Nikiya nalia kufiki liya zigi nia. Nia. Nia. Nia na kujaga. More clear. Nia. As to why other people make money and others do not make money. Make money. Alright. Now even before we come to these new age talents let's talk about now the time you guys were you know starting off from Kupali at the peak of your your careers as comedians you had a platform like you know Churchill Show at the Jengia Peak Bado. Eh? I'm Jengia Bado. E mi E mi ata muka niliga. E mi ya nini muka niliga. Okay. Time when we we got to know you guys with such a platform. Let me rephrase that. That's the introduction. Okay. The introduction of your careers. Into the industry. Into the industry. Aya. So let's talk about that time because we've seen some of you guys have made the name out of your out of your art. And others did not. Do you want to say because now we have these gatekeepers that you may want to say that they instilled discipline while instilling that character? There are people who did not make anything out of that. They were bad and also good. Ya. They were bad and they were bad when you guys were too engi. Yes. They demoralized after too engi. But also there's a good side. Ya. But now that good side is not something that we are missing. Okay. It's something that we have it now. Ya. But people don't want to put it themselves. So is that, is that why some of these now other talents that were not able just to make something out of your name and that's why to nunaka maherpale kwam tandao muntu aneza semao nili pata platform bat me ikunisida nili kwa nalipo duki dogo. What led to that? Because some of you have made a name out of yourselves. What led to that? First of all I believe pesa ita itosha. Ita ita itosha. Even the richest people are still looking for money. Our politicians are still scrambling to steal resources so that they can add it to whatever they have. They can afford everything. They have the best houses, the biggest cars, but they still want more cars for themselves. They still want more money in their banks. So what happens is how do you use the liki? Nata kuna, kutiflani kwa bivi liye nasemanga. Ule mwami nifu kwa madao go ata kwa mwami nifu. Ata kwa e, nata kwa mwami nifu kwa yaliyo we making, okay? And to whom march is given, march is expected. Dis-expected, yes. Okay? So, kuna kwa gana, this belief, yawatwegi, this is the notion of kuna siku yawena kama kozani. These are my days coming. So, most of the time we are waiting for the day to come na kumbe you are always in your days. Waiting for your day to come. I get. Onapata mwami kiki do, ata kama niki do kiki do go, but you are waiting for bulk. You are waiting for big money. Mwami siku nita sika iwi mitambili. Mwami na ni bai equipment. Alafu ni bai kashamba. So, do you ni fanyeni? Ni ni. Ni fanyeni. So, onapata, when a situation whereby ume jipea five years, for example na se main, in five years mwami ziku na situ siku mwali apakatikati, nita sika four million, ni nimeshama ni fanyeni. Standing. Alafu na ngojanga kusikawa, alafu tawai sika, alafu kumbe ii in five years, ume kukishika doki doki doko, enye me sum up to even three times. Yes. So, onapata, eventually, ume me kata 12 million in five years. Mm-hmm. But, ono, wajanga five enye mishika. Meshika. So, kumbe in five years in a five-way, kuna kitu na zafanya polepole, baka ufanyeli kitu ya kuya four million, na yo eight, atakama ume aribuari. Aribuari. So, at the end of the day, onapata ume me waishika four million, wu jafanya anything, as you wait for the five. Five million. The five million. Also, does not mean that we are justifying what's onahwa na ma platforms. Also, I feel like mse piya kijipata nga kwa opportunity ma li piya akuna platform. Also, I think it's just twice to give people what they deserve. No na. If, me ukweli na kama, if me ukweli, me inkupretibutita kwa kitu ya muflani, ina lipa. Yo kuna zilebitu za, si mufanya kwa YouTube za ni ni ni ni. Buta kini, aikini taku, kitu ya posita na za kumambia, una lipa angape, una to angape, ma ni kimuita, atan za kumuita zaswali kamaizu. Muita angape. Taka ja kidi angua. Hei. Kuna klient sidu mugani, anatoka sidu South Africa, anatoka kupia buti na 10 million. Anatoka buti na ni ita ni fanyi kitu ya ke, duni mi ni rafki ya ke. Ion ikunitu miya. Nagech. So when the money is genuinely coming, then I think it's good to disperse it to wasewana contribute for yo dokuka. Kukuja. Now the problem that comes with notions are most of artists. Yo kubulemi anavituz me fanyika, ilafika point, sasati yo, yo blaming, oh I didn't, oh I, mimi na nakapitia, kuna kwa, kuna kwa kata tini zima soza, pay bills na token at the end of the time because you mi chagi, ni maze, I used to have money then this happened. Mm-hmm. Okifotili anga sa zigi na tamisha zawa, sani kikuli kuli, even then, yo time alkwa na semanin bigi, they were still not making money. Mm-hmm. So when in real sense, ita mi nana sema tia, me ishati alkwa na pesa kitamba usayana. A kukuana. Ata kua na hai. Ata kumifika pointia, a kumifika pointia kumikata dola bada. Mm-hmm. And then we blame there, we start blaming situations. Yeah. Yet some of these situations, kuna wa sewa na make it na same, same situation. Situation. So a lot of us tuna expecting that despite the situation, whatever was cushioning us in afa ikwe ileba kiyapo. Ok. Ono, ono na. Kama nili kwa ona platform for example, let's say platform like Chachilisho, and then Chachilisho, COVID-19 kupote haiko. So do I remain broke for the rest of my life? No. Because Chachilisho haiko. I get my work is, I am a comedian. My work is to make people laugh. Agita, either through stage performance or do skits. Yeah. But if I sit and wait for the country to open and then Chachilisho ata isi wa iroodi. Yeah. And then I start saying that manze mi mi nili kupote za job. Yet the real says ata labda ile Chachilisho, ata do ili kwen akupe, aki kwen li kwen li. I guess kusasenivu vile una say mauna feel ni kama, maisha kwen li kwa puwasana na yosho. Nage. So I feel like it's really high time was I would take personal initiative. Kwazi ikitimu pujokom kuna itu. It's a personal initiative. Kamaze wutuputuwa kwa nambia. Ukega liya mostly hours a day when you talk to me, it's not like I'm judging there. But there's only something common about most of them. When you talk to maze ikitimu fanyika, this is this. Number one, kuna kwa nga na wuzembe. Ukega liya fiti. Una pata, ena kwa instagramia. One say maze ikitu ewaak. Nga kuna kwa na ile jenu niya, I've been doing comedy, I've been performing but this thing's not paying. I don't understand because it's just a matter of time in the process iu kichitakam. But anyway, the last time kumipostata video ya comedy kuna. Three years ago jai fanya video yote. O jai performa ali. Where should this money come from? Nasa saka mauko demotivated wae wae like kumefelu mefanyu mefanyu mefanyu zime kata nukodum demotivated kabisa. In world I belong to victims. This world and success does not belong to victims. And people that cry and you know o maze ni sa idea ni ata kwaofisi. Kuliam say na chi nga kiri potu watu kwa boss ati ke maze, wae fanya fanya apromoti wae angwe. In the real sense anafikiri yangain anafapromoti wae. It's about value. It's about value. We excel value. I give you my value because I'm getting some value from you. We go back to that point and a good example was COVID. Like 2020. Like me personally before 2020 I was very active on stage doing stage things. I was not active on digital platform because these other things had occupied my life in a big way. So basically I can say 75% I was making money on stage. But then COVID comes and they lock down everything. No more shows. We even had the big show. We just got a contract yomantana kupuka. It was in Feb. One week before. To launch that. To roll out. We got to do a lot of shows with a canceling. Mi mi apu 2 kwa nyuumba na YouTube yangwe yasiji 1,000, 2,000 kanzaku pambanana Instagram. Tuli kwa tu neka kata content nne kwa na shooting yabu tu kwa na kaivi ata wei ya kwa na fanyati digital sana yu time. Nona. But kwa anza sasa ni bio-bio. Arpontet li fanyat. Isma JKLs in Tokenai. Isa JKL life. You see it's about transitioning and evolving. You see COVID neka so tukai tumboze to transition, to try. Mi mi na wangwa fanyasa hi. But tukai because COVID nilifanya mali COVID adi TV mobze nilisema programs nilifungo jwa 2 zishutitana pro. Program. 2 zifanya interviews. What did the audience do? Because they like seeing you. They stopped watching TV because there is no shows apu ometuli ya pa kanzaku anda digital kukutafda wei wei. Now they are looking for you because you're not on that TV where you used to be. They are looking for you give them what you used to be. To give them. Nanzaku apatia. Nanzaku ami mi mi by May June nili kwa nishashkatraksion enye most of my businesses in 2020 are coming because of the digital sites. Then I look at iniki tutume tumanzaku iskuma juzi. So na ona there is always time to start something new and start a new path. So the most important thing is know when to transition and to evolve. Ya. Yes. Ni mekanaa saya diwa na sema ma komedia na na sema isu komedia za digital ni za ushenzi isu. Mm hmm. Sii sii on to stand up. Mm hmm. Ko ni aje piya siit na pigea stand up na na pigea better. Mm hmm. Mi kya baka matua ya ni na na pigeu ko hingesa ni landa ni sii wa na juwa juwa stand up. Mm hmm. But hini platform it's a TV. Yes. You are on TV. Ya. Sii when you are saying mi nangu jia stand up when you are seated at the house waiting for a show to come do the stand up like you are really waiting for a platform outside there and you are seated with a platform in your house. Ya. You are waiting for a platform to be created by another human being. Ya. Then pandaju ya nene za pigea stand up basi. Ya. Rekord. Ya. Tuna una. Ya. Ya. Kama una feel vine. Ko ni mepatao na sema gaibola. Isi ma vine za kina bena ni za kitoto. Stand up ni first of all there is no right form of comedy. Comedy is laughter. Ya. Kulara isi. Isi za sii komedi. Isi za piu kuna mchezo. But I have no problem with style and presentation. Kiske ofa egunia leu titcha kese. Titcha onya ni titcha kese. The goal is to make people laugh and bring the audience. Akuna mamboi gine. So the moment una za kwangalia sasa mi mi nili kwanplo stage mi digital likwede mi hi digital li nanda kuku face out. Nona. The same thing with the you are big on Facebook you are doing great things on Facebook. Instagram came. Ya. We didn't say Instagram ikuende. Tu li rukia Instagram na tu kanzana. Naya. But kuna tu ali kata waka baki Facebook. Ya. TikTok ika kuja. Twitter. TikTok ika kuja. Tiktok watu su omona macelebo kikina tiktok. Mmm. Until what happened we had people that were not celebrities because of become celebrities because of tiktok. Ya. Celebrity finds it mi utoto. Ya. Mimi ku record content ya ke. Ya. Mimi zanguz na koga premium. Yes. Kumbia okingia pa piwa na try. Mmm. So here transition. So now industry ni ya tse kumila bila kusama tu mei. Industry iko evening kuna stage. Kuna videos na happen. Okay. Kuna kitu watu na happen na say theater comedy ama like mi na aga le avenue of consumption. What are you doing towards kwingia kuya o space? Mmm. Kuna wa say uni tag apa day funny clip. Na uni msa dili kadi. Mmm. Ame shuntu na si bina kaji. But every day na ona kuna ma dili uni medishoni ona. Kama kuna kuna boyanitua majero. Majero. Majero does like three videos every day jamak. Mmm. Back to back baka mi na na msa dili mone at least akuna ni matakri na umse ana kusakfanya kituna shindwa. Why? Ya. So it comes back to your point ya. Ya. Let's have a conversation of it's not working. Then we try and work on that thing that's not working. Rather than it's not working then we look at what it's not working. It's not there. Ya. Say ma e usaniyango waki kwa pi usaniyako usaniyako kwa api nia iwa. Na iko. Mziki yangu iwa kwa mziki yangu iwa uli matri yaz a go. Ya. Uro ona. Mziki elipi. Mziki elipi na uli bateni yaz a go fo yaz a go. So we say ma mi nime kwa na toa kazi nge ingine mi na ona strategi yangu labda iwa kuka momentum da umu suggesta. Jah. Because at the end of the day the currency is that art, art for sure, it's that one.низapak python кu mojja problems do happen kuna pwganafi Wongano kuna like families ona normal a ani Year 20 judge bilia mprona me apesar kewatu sor ta!! Heine. oil kwaamento只是a ka di singular picks and says And we say Kimyawomanawat mifedo we made one, we made altogether That's not buy It'sbu the only way we've got that support Ha ha cloud Yeah We all collect 굉장히 pocket money we have a price How much is money? kwenya? ya kwa ni tii ua nami hamu? matu kwa at Berufa na kwenya ya ai na kwenya kwenya wajumemi kwenya oinkamu kwa kwa hpmufu kwa wajumemi kwa kwa? kwenya kwa kwa kwa kwanda kwa kwenya oh, boomai kwa kwa kwa wajumemi kwa kwa kwa kwa kwanda nami kwatu kwenya kwa kwa kwa kwa kwenya wato, sini, ya na na na ya wato. Eh... Eeeeek. Eeek eeek. eeeek. eeeeeek. Eeeek. Ito. Eeeek. Eeeek. kha. There are so many actually. Atachi kwa asani, atakama katuni le video kia unachok. Atani kwa mifanya na kualiti. Kenyali kwa nezei gates aiyo. Ono ona. Akunam seali dimanda tiki tu atuha ita enda viral. Uga li, misiji givere dima. Ni visi vituzares na treniki kenya. Mostly na kwa ngabao the content of it. Ataziz na trenikoniz. So rule out story ya the equipment. Now equipment come where when you become big with that low quality and you do it over time. We see we are not like what we see wajingabana. We see when you get an endorsement from this. We see when you get money. Now we expect you to give us something better. Bila kia pana. Ata sasu maza upuzi. Because kia kwele kwele. Ata mimi ona jwa nilinua kamera lini. Like all along baka ukuna jamaga lukana uli zati. Ita mimi otu nukongi shooting na simu. Laki mimi ukongi niki shooting na simu. Ata 2020. Ata JK live parodi. Tuki anza ilikuwa ni tripod na nini pale. Na simu. Na actually ata si tripod. Nili kwa nai kele. Nini kwa pilo. Uli za buti ta. Buta nuliaza na episode one. Ya kitu. Tu maika simu iwi alafu nai kwa pilo. Pilo mingi kwa za ni kweju. Alafu nai kwa nai kwa dogo iwi alafu nai kele. So kuna mese nangoja. Equipment. Nangoja equipments. Awi ata wu kimpia equipments. Trust mi ya kuna kitu ane na kudu. Ata baki tanakil alamika kisema. Mukuni nulia lens. Mugini bias view lens. Gani view lens. Moshi amaika content. Saliti ya kamera. Na tripod na. Na tripod na kwa kamera. Ali shoot. Ali shoot. So. So balls down to pale kwa. Personal dressability na karakter. Kuna ata wa sa ni. Wanyoneza muita kwa kitu. Na filmanze. Umsa ni. Na filmi gama kuna kitu ya kana shukachiri. Na filmi kifanya na ekitu. Enezam Saidi. Enezam Saidi. Kwa mindi ya kana jambia. Huna takaku je revive. Huna takaku ni tumia. Enezam Saidi ya. You want to use me. Kuna wasana taku nimaika na uchi. Infat kuna wasani. Ola ni jasiku moja. Doa na come up oka ni jambia. How do you do it okai 10 years kwa game? Ni kwa mbe ya ah. One of the easiest things is inekwa hi ata. Uktak survive poa. Nukuna financial independence. Ukuetu ebu kuji sustain. Uta kaga kwa game for a while. So how do you do that? Ni kwa mbe ah. Kuji e ni kwa angu. To discuss to one end. Tuna zasonga jambia le. Waka come. Wata wanga api? Wata ana. Tuka sema ni aje. There are many things that we can do. First of all by supporting each other. Distribution. Uke kaka kitu. Sisi wata tuna post kwa witu zetu. Uke kaka kitu. YouTube tuna support. Sisi wita wata ana tuna siya kwa ni ni etu. And then tuna takasai twanzena wulem sema niya kuna following kido kabisa. Mendo ni kuna following mingi sana kwa awo. No na. Tuna takasai twanzena wulem sema niya kuna following kido kwa kwanza. Ueno tupa kontendiake. Tuki kuja. Tuki kuja anga. Yuki tukwanza keleta burugo. Yukunam sema niya na feel. Ako na mingi. Awa tanzana e. Awa tanzana e. Ika zaku leta isu. Uka mbe another thing after that. What we do now apart from supporting each other. Kani mi. Shikana ewi watana. Mi niko wiling kukua na nini. Tufungu eka. Saving account. Tuhende. Tuhlok. Na tukwe sisi wata ni wa signatory. Akunam tanzana zatoa. Pesa kama mungine aja toa. Bila mungine. Tukwe kukubelana sawa saa. Tukwa meetings gapi. Tatoa. Na wana tuwa nga chakula kwa angu kuweli kuweli. Bibi angu wa na pikiya vizuri sana. Wana kujia ea meeting meeting meeting. Wana dika baga note. Ika fika siku ya kufungu wa bank. Tukwenda bank apa gaden city. Watoa wili ya wako. Oda ni nani. Oh excuse us. Jini mi na kwa ni anini aya. Mungine aka kujia. Tukwenda tukwa. Tukwa sama wile. Tukwa ewi vasitu. Waka wata ano plus mi mi tukwa. Kama usita. Tukwa situ me baki one ne. Kuna moja kakubali kukam. Sisi one ne tusha. Register. So me baki ule moja. Alafu bank sasahi fumuli. Ule moja kukam atiyana ID. Na tuli kumikir kwa sama. Kila muja kujana ID. Tukwa sama vasitu. Lili one ne Monday. By Friday. Make sure we come. Dia kitu kwe successful. Kujana ID ako. One ne ni kitu kwe complete. Waka signature ako. Twanze kweka. Tukwa piana baka grace period. Kidogo kidogo. I group. Nika wana left. Mungine kidogo nika wana. O God. Muntual in texta kanya bini aje. God told me what I need to do with that money. Oh. E. Nika jabia. Kwa ni? What we going to do with that money? Anything. Kwa tu you could still do the same thing. Ika kwa iwo. So. So yo kitu kaku janga. Ika kwa tu iwa kwa messed up. Ika kwa tena nika kamba. Ika kwa nikama nili kwa na pango. Buna nili wapela kwa bankenye na jwa. What? Na jwa what? So palitu kwa mindset. We cannot have similar mindsets. So kubali ati. To say kubali ati. To say kubali ati. To say kubali ati. To say kubali ati. To say kubali ati. To say kubali ati because we are on the same platform. To taguro pamoja sisi whate ati. Different mindsets. And not unless you are willing to go through the same mindset come to mungine. Ako na malunenda. Because. Kitu watu uo kwa pasana. Ni. That mindset requires you to be extreme disciplined to appoint that wana waku ni ngema. Watu wengata kuji ngema. Misanda kwa mdosi. Be comfortable. Like. Ni kwa mdosi at this state. Bila kwa mia. Bila kwa save. Nga get. Ni see post content fear. But nipata kwa kwa endorsement. And normally in asmachas tu kuna ni nikwam kuna itu say at. We still depend on corporates kumekido. Kenya. Kenya bada tu jafika leveli nge. Yuh level bada na batiliwa. But they are getting there. Yakuza na wakuza na wakuza na wakuza. Ata audience bada wana jaming yu mambaya direkonsuma. So say bada ulem se munya na se masana ko boardroom dana nekido. Ata ukuwe upe dura mafans but boardroom e kukubali uta mekido. So in asmachas there is something that a system requires you to do to make money. Then that is the only thing you need to do. You need to do. Uki kwa murebele sa kuna maluna. Ya. But also you know over time we have seen artists come out kwa mbamsada. Yes. And you know they always sometimes wana blaming the structure or the platform they've been in. For example kama leo tu ni mewatch interview ya Johnny the comedian. Yes. Anase ma ali kwa Churchill show Covid di kakuja. Yes. They thought you know they are going to go back. It never happened. Ili bidi ame wuza. Vi tu kwa nyumba ame hama. And now he is living in a very bad condition. Nuna jua. And people are willing to help him. Yes. But now when you guys see these things and you've been in the same platform you've gone through the same structures how does that make you feel now tu kama huyu nesamu mwambia je umbem sa maha tu ama inachoma. What do you guys think? Patumol ni me. Me na believing yuki finu ama ali. Bede kwa wun ta kwa mba ehoma tu ta kwa mba kakesho wu ishti shiwa tu wa kogaji. Me isikwagi aganesi yuki tu. Nako anga aganesi kitu moja until when. Kitu wama leo tu ta kupia. Ikamu tu wumbi na kusumanda tu ta kuche ke lea. That's how the world is. Yes. Are we solving as it's not a short term gratification but for us to solve the real problem. Problem. Because when I see msa nia kikama kusema ako kwa noma na jambia fo imu kwa kwa yu problem is that I make don't add. So chances are high now kwa kwa noma na jambia fo imu kwa kwa yu problem is that I make don't add. So chances are high that I produce your art and maybe I produce my work. Now that's where the problem is nia je wacha ni kusumanda wacha tu inu msa nia ako but are you also willing kwe inu wa iru dipa? Parle. Parle, no na. But to kiseima nina believing in doh ni solution but hae jai kuwa permanent solution. But in that situation doh is not even close to being the solution. Because for example let's take a look at this issue right now that you just talked about ya joni. Of course I empathize with the situation and how he feels but then again the only way we can help him is to be very brutal and honest. On a get. Being brutal I'll start it from here. When is the last time joni ama fanya kitu ya kumiri? Atokina kuholi ake. I think a kuna 9 posts. So if you are a comedian and repeating what I said previously you are either making money through stage performance or digitally. So if you are not doing stage you are complaining first of all he or show ime ruudi. Ime kuwa? Last week. Atasi last week. Chachili show Ili kuwa 247 li ni. Last year. Last year. Before after covid. Ya after covid immediately. Ya. Amenda ku perform any of the shows wunana. Hajakua stage. So this is a platform aiko. Number 2 Digitally. What content can I make up wiji ake? Nime dana kata futa but they like kakuna content. So I'm wondering ma li doina fa itoke. Kikuli kuli even if ataka masisi ni watua baya aje. I doina fa itoke wa api u post content. You're not shooting anything. Ya. You know joni is a very talented person nime kuwanga jama wakum skiza sana. Even during this time ya nini alikwa ni ame ni aje ita miya covid. Tu zitu kufanya fanya zoma bi tu zirut na shoot tu vitu apu. Ame ni aje ma zi ni kona idea niza kuwana na ame ni aje come home. Choni comes home ame ni aje so wunata ka aje. Nani baya ni kona concept flania pa esho flania ma sleikwin. Niza taka say banna shuna wale niza execute nani nata ka ni nani nani anekombia. Na toka nam structure esho. Nani nata jimagari nani na na nama rafkizango niwa kuna ma yadz wakupema dinga fanya esho na doka aa kali kaila mazumeni help then he goes and then disappears. Does not do the content comes back again. Ane nani ame maze e ni kona idea nini apu ya politiko sata and baya naza taka wunata say ni kuwifungua nani come home ame kuja tu naifungut naifungut nani panga zuri wile niza kuwa nani ame fiti nani ame kuwifa nani ame kuwifa nani comes back and disappears then comes back again with another idea aja fanya zile the last time I had a conversation with him is here. You've actually just spoken to him. Yes, one of the reason to why now this has to be we have to put this straight because at the end of the day it's a ni ni name to the industry ina kama ni kama maata wasewana takaku ingi ina stuana fili kama industry I work. Yatki kuweli kuweli kuna vidituze niwa sanipia hawa do so the time he came the last time with the information kana miwa wabla this an event shon na pangana niwa vidituze niwa kama miwa I wanted to read what my response what I say many So it's on Friday 18th November last year bro I have one problem with you you always speak good ideas of the things you want to do then you don't you keep shifting to other ideas this is like the fifth idea now you always want to start do you know how far you have been now exactly so what is stopping so that was your response to Jonyu kwa median yes okay so interest so is it the system so what do you think is his problem now personal initiative okay because Jonya kitaka taku shoot video na meme mi kama naiza naiza muita kuwango na kuji na tuongi not once not twice not three times then na manisa kitaku ku video zangu takuji in wachan ku na kata ni siyenda mubali this time tu kwa ni zivi tu zote sorry to use this example Maya was not doing anything aku anafanya aku amengi usani in terms of that you wife si tulianzatina hapo tu kwa izo vi tutu zangu and then her brand is growing tremendous exactly she did not even need to create she only needed to be incorporated like I was creating, writing shooting and editing she only needs to be part of it and just by that being part of it you association Elin Fikisha maha so even start by that even if you think creating ninguumu but as a first of all Jonya the fact that is a stand up comedian then he cannot say that creating is a problem because that is one of the toughest genre the acting stand up because creating upon this wutaka creating more than you create both both unachezana what to mentally psychological emotions so creating is not a problem I think we are being far from the game you mean unagape kwa problem be close to the game are you be close to the industry be close to the industry means where does comedy happens do you visit this place are you close to the people do interact with them we are active now the moment you go to another circle that is not in the industry you go to another circle you start to lose touch so by the time you come back you will not be able to still move that's when before something like that happens you will have a blank point where you will be happy you will be happy you will be happy you will be happy so you feel staying far from the game is bad you will be in the studio you will be in the studio you will be in the industry you are a comedian you will attend comedy shows even if you are not performing if people will shoot things be with them just catch up with them catching up has a spiritual thing of knowing where the bus is moving and then they will come back because the fact that we sit together also makes it easier It really does by the way. It really does. But when you are far from the game, then you are not in the game. Ya. Because kwa li kwa ilu na pata, sii tuko 2023 rait na hu. Adi tu seme wewa uli acha 2017. Ya. Ukapotea. Adi tu na rudi sayi. Do you know what happens to that? Uta rudi kipiga comedy zia 20? Yes. 2070. Yes. Alafu na tryuna sema it is not working. Ya. It happens even with musicians. Musician na pota ya. Alafu aki rudi. Ana imba vilale kwa na imba wapi. So haja improve. Ataki dogo. When you drop out in standard 2. And then u kaisu 8 years. Nu join for more. No. You go back to standard 2. Yes. So what happens is that, our musician when you dropping out, alafu na pota ya, when after many years, to now it is a legendary, kikuli kuli see legend, eba do ni apkami. Vili ni muze. Ni apkami. Ya li acha before, mu okay. Ali acha uko stage ya, alafu. See legendari kwa kabi kama. Na jwa see u tu miha tu legendari, in terms of juya age. Anza mu tu ni legendari. Ima ju tu li buju, ayu otaiki tambo. Eh. Legendari. Not miha legendari, as age. Kikuli kwa legendari na fahiku e. Both experience na craftia ko. Consistency kwa ya. Well. Uhum. Eh. Guys I hope you are getting tips. If you are someone that is in the industry, and you just want to get to Nuti. So you are planning to get into the industry. I believe this is very insightful. Now let's talk about Talanta Hela Kansu. The kabiti that has been created by CS. Before you even get to Talanta Hela. There is something that Butita was talking about that I really wanted to add on. Apo kwa muze kukam kuitisha. Ikona advantage zaki na disadvantage. But the cons are worse. Until when? On a get. Yeah. Number one, the only thing that keeps artists to make more money is the respect that either clients have for them or the funds they believe. On a get. So anytime you come to the public with your financial issues, sickness aside. To sickness anyone can, anyone can find themselves in the situation whereby they need help because insurance is a run out at a million twenty. Eo is exempted. Any other issue. At the moment we are coming up now, we are gaining something by risking another. So you gain the money that you will get in your kusadio short term. But then you lose your respect for as much as you can play a game. For life. Audience will never forget. Actually let us see where we are. On a get. On a get. On a get. On a get. Every day. Every day. Every day. Kamasa nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami nami zigo and one of the reason we had to talk about kindedly is so that tu wach mini nami zigo yan wacha tani netu fiki to baby 2 mi zigo zi So the moment utapua pesa unapua pesa wendee wishika njumapua. On a get. Kwa zoom say kifil maza ni kika wensita nische angini nmini nmini nmini trua pua. Tu kiku trua pua. Tuna kiku trua pua ten Uende kwenyubapuwa sasa, malinu na di-sav Uende malinu na di-sav, and then we shiaji apu Pesaya watu And muse ma, you'd rather have vegetables seven days a week than nyama once a week na una kawkasi kuzot, eru kulem boga deili anu me shibu Boro u shibe Yes, so he or self respect is so important to an artist The moment Nyonya shatua, what a manyamei come out in that regard Bila sickness, like you never come back Atu okaka, kitu wana wkumbusya Atu, kuna kalek, kuna kwangana kalek avaluya Una jwa usani, is very spiritual by the way And that is why there are some favors that usually happen na shi changa, misa yukota lente na fanyangasi yunini, mutu wana kujatu Let me give an example kamaia na nim Priscilla Like, who can't whistle You can't whistle, mutu say you can't whistle But how come ati tuna nini Tuko fokast kwa ke Kwa zaka nwi sone Why, why happens in me whistle So can we say that, but forget But there's a reason why favor na mulika niya mihaje Ue wei miha kusport We are now focusing on you Yet everyone can we So we have to accept that And the only way that he or favor na adoration wukam Usani afuana idolization fulani Nge maze, ee maze uni misani Tukenga na place maze wana se libiti wangakapa on tisha Kina maze, maka wukuna misana kwa moemotion utu anta kulia It's not because of us ama guvu yetu Kuna kongana guvu fulani So the moment you come Na umalize he or mystery about yourself Then he of guvu Ena kutokanga Na ekitoka It is very hard or completely Or close to impossible Kujigetu bak Alright Had it I hope meske apia Now let's get to talenta hella kansu This kansu that has been created by CS And youth sports and art And I want to know What are your expectations from this kansu And also What are your thoughts about the members That have been put there To represent the creative art Bearing in mind Is this such city lawyer that said That kansu should be revoked Because it doesn't follow the rule Or the procedure To create that kansu What are your thoughts guys Okay And giving people a chance to try If they fail Sawa If they get it Like I believe Sometimes you'll never know the potential of people Until you put them into trial So for me the issue of Are they the right people in the right positions Okay That's maybe only issue CSI debate now Let me give them a chance to do something Because you see I'm talking based on what Like we've never had a talenta We've never had a talenta So maybe I don't know what to criticize But maybe as a kid The best ideas That I had to get Kusiana So for me In terms of If the right people are there In terms of I feel like They should also work together With the industry These things That are pressing the industry Into those platforms For example I'm a person of beliefs Most of the time we look for capital to solve problems And we're like maybe we'll need a budget To make these things for the artist A budget for this But there are policies that if you change Wasa niyona kwatu sawa And onaji tangina zia pesa So sangina na tu need do Tuna need to change kido ga polisi Operativi Yubi ya kuna wa sanis Wakopashida So we can make it valuable So we can make it valuable So we can make it valuable So we can make it valuable So we can make it valuable So we can comeaizu onaji Kwa onji kujua Yes, the people that are there Are just representing the industry Now they should Get information from the industry Nisha uses public participation Like Lisa's participation Misha Regards Kenul vaiwa haytu na hi liftu man mísima kun Canvasii isimus Uduzu was kanya Tudu na huk arresti kica Nubu na hili Ya ki na bou aandusi mojtechno You know coming up with a way to standardize art in a way that maybe if you're on such a such a TV Producers should not do this to you because because in one situation which is buta me Is something very pregnant Musa na dosi kana doi ako Na for example a good example is a TV show a TV show for example TV show Eee Mwenye Mwenye act Mwenye act The owner, the producer Anakula fitting Anakula fitting Baka ana hende shagari inye koko juwe Nyalazi mo ruken doi Inaguruma kama automatic generator Basement But ana deserve kule yodo Ana get? Ana deserve kukula whatever Of the actors Yes Yes Yes Kusuna para for example Kipindi kili para for example kitu kama 1.5 For example an episode A good example 1.5 An episode And then Not your first production But the remain enough Yes Ii kwa watu inyoko patu vits Umali ina kwa ingi wrong muku apa Because fame U coming ina Nini flani ini wasewana kwa create perception about you Automatically You don't even have to tell them Ata wei mwenye wna zataka kupa nama tatu But it does not allow Atu kukupale onaski anikama tumu na kukoroga Wei mwenye wna tataka kukupabitsita Na taka vizuri kwa ini elufu tatu Na taka ini just cheap But the pressure cannot allow you So what happens is Kichu kwa 30 utu peo kule 70 Elufu 30 dowanze kudistibutu kwe tu Onapata stawa kumeni Anali pwa tawa When you guys want to mean 30% should go to the owner Elufu yo mingi ini na enda kwa Ii bati na shia wei ingi Bati waku wei Wei oni principu ata Ata ini Na say ma wei zi kwa Unofanya production Yamita So Yes So Yes We deserve kwa Mwenye production 200k Anafi ya besta Anana So So So So fair balance Wei zi kwa It's written And the policy says For every production this percentage goes to the talents Ya Another one Wei tu kama revinishia za Iso platforms Iso mabumplay nii nii, YouTube nii nii Onapata kama, for example, video kwa ii kwa na U.S. Onavu na Fiti Onaget Because labda wuko Isada two things Ita competition ya marketing Or They have also negotiated for better policies As well na pata labda revinishia Iko ju So sa zi gina na pata Kwa prudamu ki tu kama YouTube na nii nii Gaveneza moa Iseme, YouTube mukaya apa E for this Kwa YouTube isu kapa by force Facebook juzi kwa me sema What does Facebook lose to monetize? Wanam make do actually So na feel One of the things Kwa fai kule tati do kwa mi kuna tii Kuna Talanta Wanafat pukule fidi zasa In terms of Pesa zi ki tokapalu kwa sere kali Nga nga pesa utokama ali So in terms to such policies Kutugama Facebook Kutugama Facebook alise ma auto monetize Why are they not monetizing Because I don't feel like Facebook is losing By monetizing Wanagat it's not losing because It's going to make revenue But maybe Gava have Proper discussion in terms of Tutapata age tax Labda ona taka mingia ona taka Una na ki tu kama yu Selfish interest Atu consider Yatsai Si Gava make do na yu Iko gafi bata omik zai So atu labda ona taka It's the same So things like YouTube Tukue Because Gava na zase mama zi YouTube is ikwe kenya Because YouTube make up ikwe kenya by force Kama villainini China alise ma atake ma baya Facebook Na suagos tu zawa But Facebook will do anything To have them there To have it there So some of this policy studio I think one of our shuguli kia Kufotili akwe nishiwa Gava ikipromis Alright That was very insightful Thank you guys for coming here And just talking about the state of the art I believe kama kunam tu alikuwa na swali Likwinam sumbuwa Aneza kwa me land something out of this Let us know down on the comments section In case there is something you've land But thank you so much My good name is Miski Fingi I was joined by Eddie Bouticha And YY Until next time, keep it SPM bars Yeah, adios