 I finally finished lost oh you did oh wait a minute you text me on Thursday I had to go back and look up my phone because this past couple days we've been a little hazy I'm like the matter of finish lost and I had to go back I'm like holy shitty did I believe my exact words to you where I left the island yes yes and then I knew exactly what you meant yeah I knew exactly what you meant I've only got three questions you can talk all you want okay um were you disappointed or satisfied with the ending of the show I thought the ending was great I honestly don't understand why people got so but hurt about it the only thing I can think of is the fact that I binged it I don't think I would have had the reaction that I had had I been invested in the show for so long kind of like how I didn't you know I didn't mind the ending of Game of Thrones you know I wouldn't have been what I would have done but it was satisfying but with lost I thought it was great it answered all of my questions about what I had what I had thought about the island it gave satisfying endings to every single character not just the ones that were left I mean that final episode you know you got Shannon back you got Boone back everyone that you know and everyone that was tied in through the show throughout the throughout the time was had a nice little bookend at the end of the show but when you were thinking about you know the the characters that were back into the fold they obviously weren't the characters you know that we see on the island but then again none of them were so I don't understand you're you're referencing the people that were in the the other flash forward whatever you want to call it yes other reality thank you thank you for clarifying that for me but when everyone had their reunions and everyone like finally saw what they were there for quote-unquote I got the feels on all of them especially with the yeah so you're and Julie at one holy crap God what you're right you know I mean I mean listen I did so and I didn't I didn't see the the Shannon and Boone one coming at all so you understood at the end of the show where when Christian was talking to Jack and Jack didn't know what was going on like yeah this was just some place they created when they all moved on when they all died yes obviously not at the same time at different points in time yes and this is what they've all just met up because they're you know because they were all important to read the most important parts of their lives when they were together so they're moving on to the next afterlife I would guess correct this is the way I'm interpreting it yeah so they're moving on to the next afterlife right then and they were just waiting for Jack because you know in the reality Jack would have to be the last person to pass away right and that obviously it's not what happens yes so in my view and it's I think that you can also tell from the way that the TV series was open and ended was with Jack's eyes and when Jack's eyes close this is Jack's story really I think yeah so when Jack's eyes closed that's when this whole things goes back so to me there was a satisfying ending you know I'm not talking about the real what happens on the on I'm talking about like all these characters coming together I think that's where people were really but heard about this was like all these alternate flash forwards you know and they're all together doing different things like people just didn't understand you know and they and when it came down to the end and they were all together I mean in Christian explains it to Jack like to me it made sense now I can understand where people would be upset mm-hmm but that just now I took it yeah so well the other thing that I took was like when I going into the show I thought that the whole entire purpose of the show was that they were all in purgatory and it's essentially what it is the island is purgatory the the heart the light at the end or the middle of the the island is the light that you see when you die and when you go to it you know that's your end yeah I I don't I don't see it since purgatory at all and I think I've watched it several times that's I just I don't believe that one but like I don't you know they're not stuck in some you know gate to hell or on the way to heaven I mean yeah you know it's just it's just there's moving on point from you know from dying I don't know I mean I guess yes I guess fuck when I say it like that sounds like purgatory all right so you were satisfied and I you know it's and I always believed and I think you can kind of get from where the show was like it could be easily easily taken where you can get suckered into this world and you know you're you're just drawn in and you're into it 120% and then when it comes to the ending like Game of Thrones it comes the ending and you're like what the hell is that yeah you know and so you were satisfied the same way I was satisfied you know in the same way I was satisfied with Game of Thrones you know but people can have opposite reactions so I understand it completely on the last time I think I talked to you about this you had just seen the episode where Richard finds out that or Richard become a is he mortal essential essentially and cannot die or he can't age I think that's what it is yeah I'm pretty sure he can die so you like to see the episodes where you know obviously you find a lock or the man in black technically cannot kill any of the other candidates yes right you know you also find out about Jacob and the man in black their backstory and why they're doing on the island yep you know so just kind of give me an idea of you know how did you feel about those last like six or seven episodes and the finale I feel with with on island stuff not the off-island stuff I I really like those episodes like the the one with I with Richard's backstory and with Jacob and the man in black's backstory those two in particular across the sea and okay what was the other one Abber turno yes a turno something like that yes that's Richard's backstory those two episodes I really really enjoyed I think everyone would have been better serviced with those two episodes being in season two or season three I I see I totally disagree I think one of the things that really you know I loved about the show was the fact that you had these characters and you knew these things were going on that you didn't know anything about of course you know Jacob and the man in black you don't anything about what's going on between these two guys until episode one I think of season six yeah or is it it's one of the earlier episodes I don't know if it's episode one or is it the incident is it is it the incident the end of season five anyways we were you see Jacob and the man black eating fish yeah so you don't even really know what's going on between those two guys until that episode yeah so all you really all you really know is that you know the man in black says you know right they I want to kill you yeah and in all you've heard the whole time is you know Jacob's in charge and everyone answers to Jacob and Jacob loves you blah blah blah blah blah and I think not knowing that part like you know it's gonna be payoff down the road so you're still hooked into the show you know so you still want to know what you want to know what this is going so I I was into it I loved it now of course you watched it differently for me you wanted the answers then yeah you know I get it I can understand it didn't take away of my enjoyment whatsoever of it if you had it like you just mentioned you know that backstory Richard's backstory if you could throw one earlier in this series I guess you could do Richards but at the same time if you did that you would know that the man in black and Jacob are the ones that are really at odds in this whole thing you know you would know that Richard's in more you know basically he can't he can't die or exactly what's that yeah he can't die or doesn't age don't remember which one it is you know and I think that gives it away you can't spoil that that soon you know so if you do that then the whole series to me I think we kind of unravel I think in a way because it's one of those things that you know you want to know it but you don't need to know it yeah I don't know no you're trying to change your mind you are changing my mind and it's I'm trying to get me on my son of a bitch the other thing I didn't enjoy was locks death just because it seemed very basic yeah I expected something more than I was just like is that it okay all right well all right I think once you know once they were moved that stone and Jack I mean lock lost his powers uh-huh or he wasn't a man in black anymore I mean he was vulnerable yeah and I think Jack knew it so it's like I mean how else is gonna die I mean I I don't know I mean yes I get it yeah it's just it's just like any of those bad it's like fucking seriously yeah exactly it you deserve to better death or worse death better death yeah um yeah so I get it but at the same time yeah I was okay with it at the time I never really gave it that much thought like but you know and hindsight yeah maybe they could have done something different the other things that then in those later episodes just because it's fresh in my mind here there were a few callbacks that I really enjoyed the first one was how what the hell's her name Isabella who Jake the the female leader of the red shirts that came on the good guys the red the red shirts now you're thinking of Ilana Ilana yes I love her callback to to Ernst and blowing herself up with a dynamite I did you I did I did not see that coming at all day she's kind of she's kind of a little rough with that dynamite there and I'm like they're not gonna do it again yeah they totally did it again I popped for that hard you got some art signed your shoulder there and the other one funny was when Ben killed Charles Woodmore and he's like he doesn't get to save his daughter yeah I was like oh oh yes that sucks but yes yeah because I think I think you know we I think towards the end of the series I mean I think I look at Charles Wimor is more of a sympathetic character like you always thought he was like the absolutely was the evil villain in the whole thing but he really wasn't everybody turned in to be kind of a sympathetic character they really did I mean they really did from a certain angle even lock was a center the man in black was a sympathetic character especially after the backstory you know I was I wanted to say this while it's fresh in my mind Ben good is seriously one of the best villains I've seen on television oh undoubtedly I mean to me it's not even a it's not a question I didn't expect at all I you know and that and that's the best thing about this damn show was like in season two when they bring him on it was just a guest spot but he did such a good job in those three or four episodes he was locked in the Armory the whole time that they were like we have to keep him here so they wrote they wrote him a bigger they expanded his part more oh that's awesome and to me that that ended up being one of the best parts of the show because the way that I can't think of his name now God damn it that makes me so happy to hear that they did that yeah I mean I may be I mean me I miss red so big somewhere but I am 99% sure it's how that worked out that's fantastic yeah what the hell is his name I can't think of his name the actor Michael Emerson Michael Emerson God damn it I'm sorry Michael Emerson you're never gonna hear this but I'm sorry for not remembering your name yeah I give you don't worry yeah thank God my God I don't want him on my bad side I thought that was he was great and I I really enjoyed his character especially in the sixth in the last season yeah I really did you know I mean I think you he he really I really felt some remorse form and I felt bad form for you know but yeah dude you know he pulled a little yes he pulled a Loki on that sixth season he's like yeah and then he goes bad and then you end up being good at the end you're like damn it I am very true very true but I think if I had to compare it to Loki is still a bad guy and don't forget you can subscribe to the podcast in iTunes and Spotify just search the weekly bros in your search bar hit the subscribe button leave us a five-star review if you don't think we're up to the five stars please leave us a feedback let us know what we can do to improve the show we are always trying to improve it in any way shape or form that we can again thank you for checking out the show this has been Matthew from miscellaneous degree you've been listening to the weekly bros and we will see you next week