 It was like a great little dialogue going on between ascended masters and one that was struggling and going through a lot of very difficult emotions and perceptions. So it's almost like a symbol of a dialogue between the human condition and the ascended masters. I found that very helpful because that of course reflects my journey and it reflects everybody's journey. As long as you believe in the ego, there's going to be a bit of this back and forth. You want what? You're guiding me to what? You said what? There's going to be a bit of the ego reaction and resistance to these high teachings because the ego is the belief in separation and these high teachings are the teachings of forgiveness and oneness. And separation and forgiveness don't really have a meeting point and separation and oneness really don't have a meeting point because one is real, the oneness, and the separation isn't. So you can never really bring together reality and unreality. If you could bring them together, then of course one would dissolve and disappear and that's the basic teachings of A Course in Miracles is that this is a teaching and ending dissociation, ending the attempt of maintaining two irreconcilable thought systems. Love and fear do not go together. They may say in this world that oil and water don't mix, and I'll tell you one thing, love and fear, they just don't mix. And when you're experiencing the fear, then the love is pushed out of awareness. When you're experiencing the love, it's as if that's all that there is, that there never was anything else. You don't make it back to Heaven or Nirvana and then sit around and tell your war stories. Remember when I killed you and then you killed me and I got you back the next lifetime? It's not like going to a 12-step meeting where you can kind of rehash over all of that. Do you know what I've been through? Sit down, I'll tell you my story. There's just none of that in bliss. Thank Heavens. It's just peace, eternal, total peace in us. It's great. I was in Australia doing one of these talks and the wind tried to blow the tent down when I was doing one of my movie gatherings, Exposing the Ego. But these look like my strong steel beams. I think we'll do okay for five days. No hurricanes inside. So, again, I think that was something that was very... I had just a warm feeling reading that disappearance and the immoral reality. And then traveling around the world, I've been doing this for almost two decades. So, it's just kind of fun to meet all the people and hear all the different thoughts and reactions. A lot of times I would go and stay with people and they would say, Gary was here and I'd say, wow, that's great. And they would say, yeah, this is good, good, good. But I didn't like this, and this, and this. And it was kind of funny because some of the things it was being spoke of was I don't like this, this, and this. It was like it's too uncompromising. And I remember we hear people say the same thing about the course. The course is too uncompromising. And I thought, well, if we're here to discern between illusions and truth or error and truth, this is something we want to be non-compromising. How can you be too uncompromising when you're working with a teaching that says, the truth is true and nothing else is true? Or you read a lesson like 152, the power of decision is my own. And he says, basically everything you perceive in all of time and space is the result of your own decision. Everything, without exception. And he says, Jesus says in that lesson, you may think that this is too all-encompassing to be the truth. But he goes on to say, truth has no exceptions. So truth is without an opposite. And if we look at that in terms of forgiveness, we could say the same about forgiveness. You're not going to be able to accept partial forgiveness. It's not like horseshoes, where if you get the shoe close to the pin, you get some points of recognition or some of these games, you get partial bonus recognition. It's not that way with forgiveness. It's really all or nothing. Some of the same things that we reacted to with Christianity, it's all or nothing, black and white thinking. Well, we get to the chorus and it's like, it is all or nothing thinking. Not in terms of behaviors. That somehow it's a sin if you don't wear a hat to church or some of these crazy beliefs and everything. But in terms of thought systems, this is completely uncompromising. So when I traveled around, sometimes people would say, Gary told me that what I was teaching was not the course. Or he told me that this isn't really the teachings of forgiveness or something and they would have reactions. And in one sense, there has to be different people to play different parts and roles and so forth. And in one sense, you could say that's just calling a spade a spade. Of course a miracle is a beautiful teaching, but like everything in form, it is open to interpretation by the ego. And the ego will interpret the course in many different ways to its own liking. Ascended masters are not really interested in multiple interpretations. It's just boom, here it is. Like it or not, here it is. And so when you get into interpretations, there's always going to be conflicts, disagreements, and so on and so forth. And the good thing about the state of peace or ascendance, or transcendence is that it doesn't buy into any of those conflicts. It sees that there really is not too to conflict. There isn't that duality that has to conflict, which is beautiful. That's the blessing of enlightenment. That's the blessing of the present moment. Ascension, I'll call it, does not have an opinion. So if you have an ascended master and you say, what's your opinion about this or about that? You're not going to get an opinion. Ascension does not give opinions. And I can tell you from experience that this is really a glorious state of mind because it is a very, very glorious state of mind not to have any opinions about anything. Not about people, not about fashions, about countries, politics, the environment, not about exercise, no opinions about nutrition. It's really very joyful. Opinions drain the mind, drain the mind. Mind is actually a state of vitality. It's just that spectacular energy and radiance and joy and opinions just put a damper. Try to, in awareness, not in reality, bring the mind down into a state of sleep, sluggishness, deception, and it's no fun. Above all, opinions are no fun. And so one thing I could say with you is that it is impossible to live a life and live in a state of mind that has no opinions without the Holy Spirit in Jesus or whatever name you choose to call Spirit. If you choose to use other names that aren't Christian, oneness. This Spirit is essential and trust in this Spirit is absolutely essential to that state of mind. It would just be a pretense to kind of make a statement like, okay, I will no longer have an opinion if you didn't have a very trusting relationship with Spirit because you would just be fooling yourself.