 I can go ahead and do that unless you'd like to. Uh, well, I'll, I can start it off. Yeah. Okay, terrific. Okay, um, yeah, you know, I, I, um, this code pinks, uh, there was something that came across my, my vision and, uh, I, and I thought the one thing that grabbed my attention was the thriving thing, because thriving is located right downtown, thriving financial. And, and then to find out that thriving financial is heavily invested in the, and, uh, weapons industry, uh, that I said, well, uh, we have to get involved with it here. And we, and fortunately we have, uh, our veterans for peace group. We also have a woman against military madness that we work very, very closely with. In fact, I'm a member of land and I think Russia might be a member of that's for peace. So we're, we're kind of, we're kind of, uh, there's an ancestral relationship there in a good way. And, um, and so I thought, well, this is something that we, we, we need to get involved with. And then, then I, um, started a communication with you, Nancy. And, uh, so that, that was my link into it. And, and this is something that, um, you know, um, I think I'm, I'm preaching to the choir here, but, uh, uh, we all know that boycott in divest was an important, if not the most important part of bringing down the apartheid in South Africa. And, uh, we've seen with, uh, Black Lives Matter with, uh, uh, increased, uh, put such a scare into corporate America. You saw the, uh, the team, the football team from Washington with their, uh, the team president, uh, uh, Daniel Snyder for years denied. He just denied the fact that, uh, uh, that, that nickname for the team was a racial slur. And he was just, he just ignored people. But you know what, when FedEx and a couple of the corporate people, uh, sponsors decided to pull out because of the name. All of a sudden he was woke and he became an anti-racist. And, and it said, we can't have that name. It's racist. So sometimes, uh, and for corporate America to, uh, to grow unconscious, you have to kind of hit them where it hurts. Nancy, you can take over. Okay. Thank you so much, Dave. So Dave gave you a little, uh, bit of background of, um, how we, um, came together, in putting this webinar to, uh, together for you all, uh, just to let everyone know that this webinar is being recorded. It is the Divest from the War Machine boycott, boycott strategies and tools webinar. So if that's not why you're here, then, uh, maybe you're at the wrong Zoom room, but, uh, we'll teach you how to take action to reduce violent global conflicts and slow the hyper militarization of our world by divesting from the U.S. War Machine. The Divest from the War Machine, uh, webinar. We'll teach individual investors, um, and even yourself, um, how to take action. So maybe what we can do is go around, um, the room and have our featured speakers introduce themselves. And while they are doing that, maybe you all can drop, uh, in the chat, your name and where you are zooming in from and any affiliated organizations. So maybe what I can do is I can just, um, maybe we can start with Lucia. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Lucia Wilkes-Smith, and I am active in Minneapolis in an almost 40-year-old organization named Women Against Military Mandas. And there are men and women who are members, but the leadership is, is made up of women. Thank you. Welcome, everyone. Good evening. Welcome. Um, maybe we can hear from Cody. Sure. Hey, everyone. Good evening. Uh, my name is Cody. Um, I'm an organizer with Code Pink, which is like WAM, a woman-led anti-war, uh, organization. Um, I organize with the Divest from the War Machine campaign. So very happy to join you all tonight. Great. And maybe we could hear from, uh, from Carly. Thanks, Nancy. Hi, everyone. Really great to see you. Uh, my name is Carly Town. I'm also with Code Pink. And I'm very excited to talk to people about the Divest from the War Machine campaign today. Okay. And then we have, uh, one more member of our team. We have Mary Miller, who's actually behind the scenes right now. Um, this webinar, the technical aspects of it couldn't happen without her expertise. So we're lucky to have her, um, as she's, uh, moving you all into different rooms. And Mary, maybe you'd like to introduce yourself. Sure. Hi, everyone. My name is Mary. I've been with Code Pink for about eight months now. I do a few different jobs. I write and I work on social media. And if you tend to our Code Pink Congress events, you might recognize me because I also do a lot of work with them. And that is why I have so much Zoom expertise now. So I'm running your, your tech here. Thank you everyone for coming. Thank you, Mary. Um, so the way the, uh, we're going to format this, uh, tonight is we're going to hear from our panelists, our speakers. And then, um, we will go into, uh, breakout rooms. And the breakout rooms are rooms that you get to choose from, um, that you get to join instead of someone just randomly putting you into a room. We will have, uh, breakout rooms that address boycott, divestment and sanctions. We will have another breakout room, uh, titled, uh, city-based organizing against the war machine. And then we'll, then we'll have a third room, uh, which is called, uh, Defund, uh, the Pentagon. So, um, Dave, is there anything I'm missing? Should we just get, get right into it? Yeah, let's go. Let's do it. Okay, well, I'll allow you to do the introduction. Okay. Well, let's go ahead and I will hand it over to Lucia and, um, who will be presenting, uh, to us. Thank you. Well, thank you so much. Thinking about, uh, divesting from Thrivent Corporation has brought to my mind some tactics and strategies that we have used through Women Against Military Madness, or WAM. And, uh, another, uh, community, uh, that I have been working with, the Minnesota BDS community, a coalition of groups and, uh, individuals. And so I'm going to go through some slides, which I just had up on the screen a moment ago. Uh-huh. Okay. There it is. Good. Okay. Here we go. Okay. Thank you. Now, so here is a little introduction to WAM and our logo. BDS, as you may know, is an international campaign boycott, divest, and sanction that, uh, has to do with, uh, raising awareness about human rights and civil rights that must be granted to, um, Palestinian people. So it's to put pressure on the government of Israel. Among, whoops, one. It's important when we're putting, when we're putting pressure on a corporation or on some kind of, uh, uh, organization or Congress or our legislature to use many approaches. And I'm suggesting that it's always good to have some printed information. Now when we've been working so much during the pandemic without printed information, without leaflets and flyers or even little postcard sized fact sheets that you can hand to people, um, I think that it is always important to have something tangible in print that people can return to after they perhaps have heard your, your oral argument. So I think that when I think about tactics for influencing and bringing social change and social justice, uh, it's important to also create a multiple ways through social media to approach those entities. It's important in influencing corporations to reach out to boards of directors and shareholders of those organizations. So, you know, get on the agenda. You notice that each of these points is an action verb and I am a believer in action and I know that Code Pink is too. So reach out, get on the agenda, make a and then reiterate your points in writing, submit questions in writing. We did this recently with General Mills Corporation, which is based in Minnesota and Minnesota is very proud of being the home of General Mills and but when the shareholders meeting was coming up, uh, which was done virtually, uh, we were able people who we found people who were shareholders in General Mills and they pre presented questions, uh, virtually to the shareholders meeting. It's important too to educate the larger community and we do that with rallies and even little clusters of people holding signs and then it's important to and I have to stress this to connect with the media that is actually seen by those people who make the decisions. So sometimes that is the mainstream media most often. It's always good to make a colorful flyer. Uh, this one we used, the BDS community has used to, uh, to influence legislators as we are working about anti working on repealing anti boycott statutes in Minnesota. But it's always good to have something that's a little bit colorful, literally in color. In Minnesota, the state board of investment has, which is responsible for a huge, uh, pension funds for all state employees, including public school teachers and the decisions are the elected officials of our state. And the BDS community has made statements to this group regarding divestment from a corporation called Elbit Systems based in Haifa Israel. And it's known for field testing as the term that's used on weapons on Palestinian people in Gaza. And it also does surveillance along the US Mexico border. Sometimes it's important just to have a little group of people show up and be seen by the public and by, in this case, women engineers who were going into, um, uh, support system for women engineers, many of whom were working for Lockheed Martin. And so we just notified them that we're present and we're here. In, uh, last September, just before the shareholders annual meeting, uh, we had about 45 or 50 people at a rally, uh, outside of General Mills Corporation. This big sculpture that's read is the big G for General Mills and people driving by saw us. The corporation was aware we were out there because they called the police and we had a chat with the police, but we were visible and clear about what we were doing. Um, sometimes there's an opportunity to be a little playful. So because Pillsbury is now part of General Mills Corporation and Pillsbury has a factory in disputed area, stolen land in East Jerusalem. There's a boycott across the country and throughout the world of Pillsbury baking products. And so here we have our friend Noam in a Pillsbury dough boy costume saying, I made this with no Pillsbury products and showing off his pumpkin pie. And so sometimes in some context, it's possible to use some humor and be a bit playful and that reaches people in a different way. So it's good to make use of Pillsbury, uh, of symbols that the public understands. For example, the Pillsbury dough boy who is wearing a mask in this photo that you can see and he's out on a street corner in St. Paul, Minnesota, to say something's wrong, Pillsbury. And this is my last point and I want to stress it over and over. Reach out to mainstream media because those shareholders and those boards of directors are reading and hearing from mainstream media. I don't think Wham has ever been quoted on the in the business section of the Minneapolis Star Tribune before, but we were last September right around the time of the General Mills shareholder's meeting. And it's possible sometimes if you know someone who knows someone to find a reporter who will carry a story forward. And that is my message today is as we approach these corporations and entities to use many different tactics all at the same time and carry on, carry on bravely. Thank you. Thank you so much, Lucia. That was really fantastic. And the the tactics that you all are using at Wham are definitely tactics that we use at Code Pink. And if anyone is interested, Lucia will be holding a breakout group after we listen to the next to our next speakers. But I really am excited that you brought up the point of AGM season. Shareholder season is coming up and it is a great way to insert your message and to apply pressure to to the powers that be. So if everyone, if you have questions, if you can hold on and hold any sort of suggestions or concerns or anything to to the to for the breakout sessions. So let's see, who do we have up next? It looks like up next is I like to invite Carly Town as our next speaker. Thanks so much, Nancy. And thanks so much for that, Lucia. That was brilliant. I love seeing those tactics that you all are using. So I'm also going to go ahead and share my screen so folks can see presentation I have for you today. Again, thanks so much for being here. My name is Carly Town. I'm a co-director of Code Pink and I work most closely on our divest from the War Machine campaign, which works to divest our schools, our cities, our politicians, and other financial institutions from the War Machine. So I'm going to take us through just a general presentation about what our divest from the War Machine campaign is. I'm going to go over a few specific points and then I'm going to hand it over to my colleague Cody to go over a couple of other tactics that we use. So to start, our divest from the War Machine campaign operates under a very simple premise, which is if we're going to end war, we have to stop allowing companies to profit from war. I think everyone here can agree with that. And with that understanding in mind, we talk a little bit about how the War Machine actually operates and what each of these points when we identify the War Machine, how we can actually intervene as a community and take on the War Machine. So you see on the screen, while this is not in total the entire way that the U.S. War Machine operates, it is a good snapshot of the ways that we can intervene. So we talk a lot about how weapons manufacturers produce the arms and technology that make wars possible. And in the process, making a huge profit. Weapons manufacturers use their huge profits to fund the campaigns of politicians, which is something I'm going to be talking to you a little bit more about today. Politicians vote to extend existing wars, engage in new conflicts, and steadily increase the Pentagon budget as a result. And then underlying this entire dynamic is the fact that large financial institutions like banks and asset managers invest heavily in these weapons manufacturers. And you can see it's a very cyclical process. So the Divest from the War Machine campaign identifies these points, as I said, as points for intervention as members of the community who want to end the War Machine. So those different points, like I said earlier, we talk about divesting our city and state from the War Machine, divesting our universities, so our university endowments, working to hold financial institutions that invest in weapons manufacturers accountable. And then finally working to divest our politicians and representatives from the War Machine, which is actually what I'm going to talk a little bit more about today, while Cody will be talking more about city and state campaigns. So let's talk about politicians. How do war profiteers exert so much influence over our politicians? Well, again, a very cyclical process, like I mentioned, right? Weapons manufacturers use their profits to donate to their campaigns. Politicians vote to extend existing wars, engage in new conflicts, increase the Pentagon budget, right? And that's a dynamic that we've all seen play out from our politicians. So let's also kind of take a step back also and understand the scale of the problem and how campaign contributions from weapons companies present such an extreme conflict of interest. In 2021, the Pentagon budget is $740 billion, which means we'll spend over $1 million a minute on the Pentagon, which putting it that way, I think, is really startling for most people. But importantly, half of the Pentagon budget will go directly to private defense contractors, of course, defense and air quotes, including weapons companies like Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, Boeing. So this is a huge problem, right? So in addition, I want to mention that we dedicate so much of the Pentagon budget to creating and maintaining weapons that the US military also sends quote unquote, excess military grade weaponry to local police forces through the 1033 program, which you can see here was created in the 1990s during the war on drugs and has since transferred over $7.4 billion in excess property, including weapons to police forces that we know of, right? And this image here is actually a Miami police officer from protests over this summer. So still very much a huge problem. So, you know, giving these really outrageous statistics and the way that we see the war machine operating in our local communities and how our politicians vote to spend more and more money every year, really to line the pockets of private defense contractors and how those same military grade weapons are used against some of the most marginalized in our communities, you know, what can we do about it, right? And that's why we're here today, some resources and tips about how to take on the war machine in our own communities. So I want to start off with a recent study that was done by the Security Policy Reform Institute, which found a direct correlation between contributions from the defense industry and voting to maintain or increase military spending. Again, I think we all know that this is the case, but seeing a study actually point this out is incredibly important. I'll make sure people have access to that as well. So based on that, right, we are calling on everyone to reach out to their congressional representatives to sign the Code Pink pledge to commit to stop taking campaign contributions from weapons companies, right? If these contributions are correlated to them spending, voting to spend more on the Pentagon budget, we need to, we need to stop that contribution process in its tracks. I want to show people a picture of the pledge that we asked people to bring to their politicians. You can see here, it's very simple. We want them to commit to refusing campaign contributions of over $200 from PACS or executives or organizations representing the top five weapons manufacturers that are listed there. And you can see that it's a very simple statement. And it's also a really good tool, right, to ask your politician, your representative to sign this. And if they refuse, it's really great to ask them why, right? Why would you refuse money from companies that make a killing on killing? In particular, I wanted to talk to you all about your congressional representative. So we have congressional representatives who have already signed on, but we need more. Congresswoman Ilhan Omar has not yet signed the Code Pink pledge to stop taking campaign contributions from weapons manufacturers. That doesn't mean she hasn't done amazing things in Congress so far. She's actually been on the front line of calling to defund the Pentagon budget, but I think it would also be a really powerful tool to ask her to take a stance publicly against taking these campaign contributions from weapons manufacturers. Another study actually from the Security Policy Reform Institute was done to show that every number of Congress who has signed our pledge, the Code Pink pledge to divest from war, voted unanimously to move funds from the Pentagon to the people. So they voted to defund the Pentagon this past summer. So it's a really important tool that we can use in our communities, and it would be a great way to also open up a conversation with your representative, Ilhan Omar, because we also have, as a tool for people, sorry, we have a Code Pink guide to Pentagon cuts. So when you go and talk to your representative, ask them to take that pledge to stop taking campaign contributions. We can also open the conversation and show them concrete ways that they can reduce the Pentagon budget and invest in our local communities, right? Because politicians will often say, we don't want to cut the Pentagon budget and reduce our security. The great thing is we have a list of Pentagon budget cuts we can make, how much money that will save, and you can show them very clearly that making these cuts won't cause any risk to our security, right? For example, up here, I want to point out, we could eliminate something that is commonly referred to as a slush fund account that would save us $174 billion a year. And you can go through our guide to Pentagon budget cuts. I'm going through them quickly here, but you can see at the bottom of the screen, the URL to see them on our website. I'll also make sure people have that in the chat box. And yeah, so the two things that I talked about today, talking to your representatives, to ask them to stop taking campaign contributions from weapons manufacturers, and also bringing them our guide to defunding the Pentagon, two really important ways to start taking on the war machine in our local communities. And I will stop here so I can have my colleague, Cody, continue the conversation as well. Awesome. Thanks so much, Carly. And thanks to Lucia also, I feel like, definitely would echo what Carly said that a lot of the same tactics that have been part of the BDS movement, the Lucia was explaining, are part and parcel for what we do with the divest from the war machine campaign. Because divestment, and you know, Carly touched on this too, like divestment is just one tool. It's one aspect of general anti-war organizing to end U.S. militarism, which as Dr. Martin Luther King said, even that's still true in our time today, one of the greatest threats to human rights around the world today. And as Lucia mentioned, these tactics that make concrete gains in the anti-war movement, in cutting back on the war machine, are also kind of feed this feedback loop of when you work with other activists to do divestment work, and you make little wins along the way, you've done part of the work to educate people, to actually learn what it means, like what's possible, what's possible when a movement of people gets together to make demands. And then further down the way, you could probably see some of those people who you may have brought in to a campaign for the first time, bringing in other people along the way and teaching them how to go. I'm starting with this because in my work through the divest campaign, the same campaign that Carly was outlining, I work specifically with activists who are working to divest their city or state governments from weapons companies. And so what I've usually seen is that a city or state campaign, usually a city campaign, is a very easy in to folks who maybe have never done any kind of anti-war organizing before. So the context of the municipal organizing is that many state, almost every state government, or city or state government, is invested in different companies in order to raise its assets. This could be, this takes a series of different forms such as retirement plans, any kind of funds that are given in for public education, many different ways that municipal governments invest in companies. And many of them keep public records, but make it so hard to find that it's impossible to know what your city or state is actually invested in. So a good way to build up a movement to really get at ending this practice that the whole federal government takes part in like what Carly was saying is to get people involved in sort of an introductory municipal campaign. So I don't have any slides to kind of go through, but I wanted to give a little bit of a sort of visual introduction of what it looks like to do some initial research into your, into a budding municipal campaign. So the first thing that you'll want to do is to look at what are the different kinds of public funds that your city has. A lot of the times this takes the form of a public retirement fund or some kind of public employee pension fund. And you want to do some research into how the city manages that because many cities just have their own public employees fund. But some, like in the city, I live in Portland, Oregon, the public employees of the city have their retirement fund through the state. So there's an Oregon state public employees retirement system. And so you want to make sure that you know how your city and state function and through their retirement systems. And so let's say that you find that your city has a public employees retirement fund. You can usually find records that the fund keeps. This can usually be on websites where they'll actually even have a list of different reports because any kinds of investments that funds go public funds go in have to have quarterly reports over how the fund is growing for their recipients. I say it's usually there because it's not always. It should always be there. But as we found in some cities, we can search and search and search for the list of investments and it's nowhere to be found. And the city will try to put up a wall as much as they can to not let you know what your funds are invested in. Because many governments know that not only weapons companies, but fossil fuel companies, private prisons have definitely stoked to many mass movements to rise up and demand that they divest for human rights. And so if a city or state website does not have these records on file, like they're legally supposed to, you can always file a Freedom of Information Act or use other methods to try to get the file because again, they are legally required to make this information public. But then once you actually have the information, this is sort of the next line of defense I'll call it for investors is that they'll say, okay, here's the information. Here's what all of our here's all the funds that our investments are going through. That's all you asked for. They won't tell you where the a lot of those funds are invested in. And this is where we have some tools that you can use. And so for the last couple minutes, I wanted to just give a little bit of a demo. So this is an example of a city retirement fund report. And if you scroll through it, you will see the same thing, a lot of numbers, a lot of graphs, a lot of big words that is mostly financial jargon. Again, this is one of the lines of defense. They make it so that it's very hard to actually understand what any of this means. So I want to scroll through this until we get to a page that looks a little like this. Oops, not that. We actually want it to look like this. So a table like this that actually has a line after line of a fund name with various numbers about how the assets were grown. When you have something like this, this is every specific fund or mutual funds that this retirement plan uses to grow its assets. Once you have this, all you need to do is to see what research has already been done with these funds. And so I'm going to take this example right here. This says Melon Large Cap S&P 500. So a lot of numbers and words, basically what it means is that this is one fund by the Melon Company that is on the S&P 500 index. And so I'm going to go to this website that we can share the link to, the Weapons Free Fund that CodePink uses. And I'm going to type in Melon S&P 500. And this says that research has already been done to find out that the fund that any Melon S&P 500 fund, these various ones are invested in weapons. It even gives you a rank. This one gets a D grade because if you look here, it's invested in Honeywell, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon. So this doesn't win you your campaign, but it gets you the initial research you need to start a municipal campaign and then rally different activists to demand that your city pull its assets from these funds that invest directly in these companies. And so with that, I'm kind of at my time. I would love to talk more in the city-based organizing breakout group, but that's sort of a crash course of how you can start a municipal divest campaign. So I guess I'll pass it back to you, Nancy. Great. Thank you so much, Cody. Thank you, Carly. Thank you, Lucia. This is exactly what we are set up to do here, and that is to talk about strategies and to talk about tools to divest from the war machine. So this is all really, really terrific. Before we move into our breakout groups, I just, Carly brought up asset management firms, and I just want to talk just really briefly about one of the campaigns that I oversee. It's the BlackRock campaign, and I mean, war and conflict threatens life and the planet as we know it, and we all face global emergencies, but the financial industry has the power to lead the change that we need. So BlackRock, for those of you who don't know, is the world's largest biggest asset management firm with more than 8 trillion in assets under management. It's also the world's top investor in nuclear weapons, climate destruction, private prisons, and weapon manufacturers. And for us in the BlackRock network, we believe if BlackRock moves to popular pressure that other asset management firms like Vanguard and State Street would follow suit, and not just them, but maybe even financial firms like Thrive-In, which is based there in Minneapolis. So that's just my little spiel on BlackRock if you're interested in learning more. But just before we go into our breakout groups, Dave, is there anything that you'd like to add? Yeah, by the way, all of our panelists really brought it in and very concise, and just really some real useful information. My God, I'm just blown away by it. Thank you so much for all your hard work and not only that, and presenting it in such a nice, concise way. That's beautiful. But yeah, the only thing I would say is that the toughest part politically about a lot of these municipal funds is that the reasons they'll give you is that, hey, we've got employees that pension funds, and there's a lot of labor cooperation with these funds. So the labor is saying, yeah, I understand that these are not kosher kind of groups, but we want to make sure that our employees get their pension. Their pension fund doesn't run out, you know, and they will do that. And in some ways, it would be really good to have developed a counter argument to that in going forward. So that if they say, well, well, yeah, I agree with you. I feel like, yeah, we don't want to, but this is where the guaranteed money is for our pension fund, and protecting our hardworking people that worked their lives and expected their pension fund. So you can understand that you're coming from their position on that. But I think that the alternative is to try to maybe guide them in the direction of green energy and how green energy is the coming force, they should be investing in green energy. So anyway, that's just what I have to say. Let's get to the breakout rooms. Okay, great. So we'll turn it over to Mary for the breakout rooms. And just to remind everyone, we will have a breakout group with Lucia on BDS and other points that she's raised today. We'll have another breakout group with Cody, city-based organizing against the war machine, and another breakout group with Carly around the defund the Pentagon. So Mary, take it away. Okay, you're going to see at the bottom, let's see, join breakout room. Is there a screen that pops up? I only see two, I don't see anyone in city-based. Do people choose? Okay, great. Someone just joined Cody. Looks like Carly could use some more. Are you all seeing the option to choose your room? Got a couple. Moses says he doesn't have the option to choose a room. I can assign people to rooms if you're having trouble. Yeah, Moses, is there a topic that you're interested in? I'm going to unmute you, Moses. Oh no, I can't do that. I don't have that power. Sorry. Pentagon? Okay, let's move Moses to the Pentagon. And then who else do we have here? We've got... What about you, Ruth? Where would you like to go? I would learn from any one of these because I'm just here to listen. Okay. How about in Lucia's group? Okay, great. BDS. Nancy, can you put Tim Nolan in the Pentagon group? Okay, let's put Tim in the Pentagon group. All right, how about you, Kay? Where would you like to go? Can you hear us? Okay, Tim wanted the Pentagon group, so is he... Oh, looks like he's on his way. I think the code pink for me. Okay, let's put you in the city-based organizing then, Kay. Thank you. Okay, bye-bye. And then, Mally, how about you? Welcome back, everyone. I was muted also. Back in the big group. We probably needed that whole 15 minutes when we didn't get it, but for Giorgio, he got cut off. Well, but you came a little late. Yeah. Introduced himself earlier. And let's see. Here we are. We are back, everyone. Welcome back. Let's see. Is the whole team here? We've got Carly back. We have Cody back. Terrific. So, welcome back, everyone. And I see that our group is a little bit smaller. I just wanted to see if there is someone from each group who would maybe give us a brief report back. Maybe we can hear from someone from Lucia's group. We didn't talk about having anyone volunteer to do a report back. We were so... Paul, or is Virgil here? What did you have, Paul? Absolutely. All right. Yeah, I just... One of the... We've discovered that I guess there's 20 states that made BDS illegal. And the way they did it is by using the word discrimination against Israel. So, and then we heard a story of how someone... I think Lucia went to her congressperson and when she talked about how the United Nations said that Israel was... I can't remember what exact... What criticism it was. It was my state senator. Your state senator. Yes, because the United Nations named General Mills in violation of international law. Right. And that was... And his reply was, well, United Nations is a little anti-Semitic. It was like everyone was like, shocked to hear that. Good sky. So plainly say that. And so, yeah, and then I did a Google search and I found that my state is one of the states that makes BDS illegal. And I live in New York state. Okay, great. Well, thank you so much for reporting back on that. New information to me, that's for sure. How about Carly, would you like to report back? Or is there someone in your group that would like to report back? Yeah, is Elizabeth still here? Would you mind reporting back from our group? Just while we chat a little bit. Sure. I mean, you were great, Carly. And you used screen sharing and you showed us more about the pledge form and they're 12 signers so far. But then you mentioned like Bernie Sanders and some others that were not on that list. But the focus is now on representatives not on senators, I think you said. Anyway, and you showed us kind of how to do it, which was great. And then you were going to, you were shifting over to Pentagon budget cuts and going to show us the guide to the Pentagon. Is that right? But we didn't quite get there. I don't think, unless I missed something. But I was very informative. Thank you. Thanks, Elizabeth. Great. Thank you so much, Elizabeth. And how about Cody's group? Is there someone that would like to report back? Or if you'd like to report back, Cody? Yeah, I mean, likewise, we didn't go over, like get a volunteer. But I guess one thing I just wanted to share that I was very inspired by, I was chatting with Jim for a bit. And Jim shared that he actually used to be a machinist working on the supply lines for some of the weapons companies. And I think that it rarely goes, it's rarely acknowledged enough how much we need the workers who are often invisible, totally invisible by the war machine, the ones who put their economic livelihood on the line to say, no, I'm not going to do this anymore. How crucial it is to have them not just in our movement, but really leading our movement. So I really want to give Jim another shout out for inspiring me tonight. But yeah, Jim or Kay, any of y'all want to share a bit more about what we talked about? Well, I'm kind of all new to this. It's the first time I've actually interacted with Code Pink, even though I have watched the movement since it's creation. But I'm glad to be here. And at this moment, I just want to learn. So that's about it. That's about all I had to say. Super. Great. Well, what I'm going to do is in the chat, I'm going to pop in a link to a Google form. So the campaigners can follow up with you. So all the campaigns that you heard about tonight are listed on this Google form. So let's see, can you go? There we go. So if you sign up, click on that into your email address and the campaign that you are interested in. And either Carly or Cody or Lucia or even Dave or myself will follow up with you on one of the campaigns. But Dave, do you have anything that you'd like to add? No, I'll tell you what. I've learned a lot. And obviously, we can probably go on for three hours with this group because we have a lot of people that are doing really amazing things on the ground. And oftentimes in activism and the anti-war movement and peace and justice movement, you get a lot of talking and not a lot of action. And this is what I love about this group is that it's the taking the next step and actually having your police system and trying to leverage. And what we all do is try to amplify and leverage, amplify our voices and leverage our networks. And that's something that takes a little doing. You develop relationships during the course of time. But all this stuff is all related. And I know with veterans for peace, I definitely want to do work with Lucia on the local level. I got that from saying, you know what, Lucia and veterans for peace and WAM and somebody from Code Pink and Minnesota, we all went together and talked to our representative, you know, our congressperson or senator, it would have much more impact than if we all each individually do it. So I think working with fellow groups, and that includes wherever you are, if you have Unitarians and Lutherans, there's a lot of progressive Lutherans, especially with Thrivement that would love to, that can really help you get with the pastors to say, if the pastors in the congregation say, well, wait a second, what are you doing with our money? This is not good, you know, and I think that there's all these partnerships and working with people and more voices raises the ship. Great. So I think we will go ahead and leave it there, unless any, if any of our speakers have any final words, we can go ahead and, if not, we can go ahead and wrap up for the evening. Yeah. Okay. Great. So please. Thank you so much, everyone. Thank you. Please fill out that Google form. Thank you, Lucia. Thank you, Cody. Thank you, Carly. Thank you, Mary. Break the bonds. Break the bonds. Lucia, is anybody working on Break the Bonds with me? Yes. Break the bonds. Break the bonds is part of the BDS, Minnesota BDS Coalition. Yes. All right. Well, everyone, have a great evening, and thank you so much for joining us tonight. Great job, Nancy. Thank you. Thank you, Dave. Thank you. Awesome. We're with you. Bye. Bye-bye. Bye, everybody. One love. Okay. Bye-bye, Tim. Bye-bye, Jim. Bye, Ruth.