 This is about veganism, avoiding animal products to save the cruelty. Did you think this happened in Australia or? No different to sending him overseas and getting killed over there. Do you know what this is? Do you know what this is? Are you a vegetarian? I know the whole stuff about this calling. It's very good cause you're a vegan. Don't even drink milk? Milk is for the calf and they have to take the calf away and kill the calf. And then when the mother can't produce the milk, they kill her too. So they go to the meat industry, the same industry. So the eggs are the same, the chickens can't produce eggs anymore, they get killed, they go to the meat industry. All the male baby chicks, they can't lay eggs so they kill them on their first day of life. So vegan means to eliminate cruelty as much as you can. We just expose the meat, dairy, egg industries, especially animal rights. We think animals deserve a life without suffering and violence, just like humans do. It's not good, I think if people see what happened they wouldn't want to eat it, would they? I have asked one of my friends, suppose if someone calls you then how would you feel? Exactly, well that's how we look at it. If we wouldn't want it done to us, we don't think it's right to do it to animals, but animals can't speak up, they can't talk, so we speak for them. Good cause brother. Good cause, thank you very much, I appreciate your time, thank you. This is just Australian meat, dairy and egg industries, how we treat animals that we want to eat. So how they get to the plate. So these images was taken from inside of these pigarees and abattoirs and stuff like that. How'd you get the images? Activists go in there and they break in and they leave the cameras. Because otherwise no one ever will see it. They rip the tails off. They dock the tails so that they don't chew them when they're in the enclosure. They could at least seal it afterwards. Well you know, this type of cruelty is pretty standard. That's crazy. Do you eat animal products yourself? To be honest, not a lot, but I'm not a vegan or anything, so I don't eat it every day, but once or twice a week I will. We just sort of plead with the public, we say like, without our money, without us supporting these industries, they don't exist. That's true. So the only reason they're doing that to animals is so we can eat them. Not that it really matters, but is it as bad with chickens as well? I mean, because I only really eat chicken. Oh, chickens. It's really hard to get into the argument of which is worse, but they are all bad. Like if you look at even free-range chickens, like you think like, yeah, free-range, it's horrible. But let's just say, hypothetically, there was some really humane farm that they really looked after their animals. And do you think that if that animal has an interest in living, that it's okay to take its life from it? Do you think that that would be humane? No, it's an ethical conundrum, that's for sure. It is, no. Because we wouldn't want it. You've got to write sort of life, so... Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. And the reality of it is over 90% of animals come from factory farms that we eat because they have to keep up with demand. They can't possibly treat every animal really good to keep up with demand. These are commodities. These are products. They're not individuals, you know. Yeah, that's not right. These people must be so desensitized to it all. Well, they get people that are mentally not right to do the job because normal compassionate human beings couldn't do it. Oh, no, no, I can't. No, I can't even go... I wouldn't even talk to someone about going hunting. So that's what we try to explain to people. If it's not good enough for your eyes, then how can it be good enough to eat? I mean, it's just because we're so detached from... Yeah, it is. I mean, in my case, I was brought up eating meat. So was I. Yeah, it's one of those things, but... I wasn't born vegan. My mum's fed me the normal diet. I was eating massive T-bones up till I was about 25, 26. So I don't know where you're coming from. Yeah, well, it's just a matter of... That's the egg industry. That's the egg industry. Free-range eggs. That's a gas chamber. They push pigs into a gas chamber. Yeah, well, it has information in there about protein requirements. Yeah, and there's no issue with getting enough protein if you're eating enough food. I mean, some recipes, you know, you don't miss out on anything as a vegan. You don't miss out on ice cream cakes, hot dogs, Lord of the Fries. They sell burgers, vegan burgers. You're not missing out on pizza. You're not missing out on anything, except you're leaving the violence off your plate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you can make a massive difference, man. Have you had a lot of people stopping throughout the night? Heaps. Heaps. That's a pretty effective little installation. This is worldwide... 60 chapters worldwide do this. So plant seeds and people leave, they look at me differently, you know? So we want people to start to see it from the animal's perspective instead of just the neatly wrapped package on a supermarket shelf. Yeah, with the green on the corner. The main stamp. Humane corpse. A complete oxymoron that we've accepted as logic. Yeah, it's a bit silly, isn't it? Yeah, so... I'm happy to say there's no meat in here. Good on you, mate. Good start. Focus your meals around starches, potatoes, rice, beans, pasta, and then add your fruits and veggies and get the tofu's and stuff if you need. Junk food here and there, vegan junk food, heaps of it. And you're set, man. You're set. You guys are around the mall a fair bit. Fortnite League will be here. Friday night, every fortnight. So not next Friday, but Friday after that. Here's a card. Here's another one. Excellent. Got one for the girlfriend, man. Yeah, check it out, man. YouTube as well, bro. End-animal cruelty. End-animal suffering. I do want one here, bro. See that on your screen? I own a farm, so I need to know this. Send him to the slaughterhouse? No. Oh, no, you don't. A farmed animal. We have, like, a lot of, like, magpies and stuff that we find on the road. Magpies. That, like, do get hit by cars and that. We look after them. Oh, fuck. I actually had, like, a screen saver of my pet magpie called Maxie, who's actually best friends in the cart. Wow. Wow. No, no, legit. I'm not trying to take a piss here. You don't need the magpies, are you? Oh, no, not really. We need the chickens, though. We got chickens. We use the eggs, though. You don't eat chickens. I feel sorry. We use the eggs. You're vegan. You're vegan. No, no. Obviously not, because we eat the eggs. Oh, but you don't eat meat, then? No, we do eat it. Yeah, that's what we eat. We're saying, like, the meat has to get put in the slaughterhouse. The animals get put in the slaughterhouse to get the meat. To be honest, we have a cow that we slaughter and we eat. But we know the cow and we know that it's going to get slaughtered in the right way. Do you think from the cow's perspective it had an interest in living like it wanted to live? Look, I didn't hear a complaining too fair. When you killed her? Yeah. I didn't hear her saying, no, stop me. So, like, if we can't speak up for itself, do you think it's okay to treat them how we want? I don't know cow's language. Exactly. That's what we're saying. Like, bananas for the voiceless means that animals are voiceless. They can't speak up. No, they do have a voice. I just don't know their voice. I just don't know their language. So, like, what's the point of me, like, trying to listen if I don't know the language? That's like you saying, what languages do you know? Just because you don't know the cow's language, does that mean it's okay to put a bolt gun in their head and chop them up into pieces? You do it properly. Like, you go straight away so they don't know any difference. But you wouldn't want that treatment? You wouldn't want that treatment? No, no, be honest with me. I'd rather die from the... To be honest, I would rather die from that than die of old age. You'd rather to quick and hurry up things. But what if you don't need to die? I've got like a good five years of like slowly dying when I'm like 86 to 91. If I slowly die, it's a slowly die... You are literally rotting. Yes. You are wasting money from your sons and daughters. But that cow wasn't dying of old age. It wasn't suffering. You killed it because you wanted to eat its body. No, it is though because it can't have any offspring. It's literally just eating grass for no reason. But to that cow, that's the only life it has. So we're just saying we don't think it's... I don't know. It's also breathing carbon. From your perspective, it doesn't matter. Oxygen and it's taking out carbon dioxide. That's a waste for us because like we don't breathe in carbon dioxide, do we? Whoa. What do we breathe in? We breathe in oxygen, don't we? Cows breathing. O2. O2. O2, don't we? Breathe out CO2. What's the point? What's the point in trying to breathe in CO2? I don't want to be rude. I'm going to leave this conversation here. No worries. Looks like I win this. Looks like I win. No worries. You win, mate. Have a good night. So when it comes to activism, some interactions are worth it and some are just pointless. But as activists, it's our job to find those who are receptive to the message and edify them.