 Hey everyone and welcome to the Zelda Informer podcast. I believe this is our fourth episode now This is our first episode after E3. So that's always exciting Our co-host unfortunately could not join us tonight or today as you're listening to this on Wednesday We record on Thursday nights or Tuesday nights. Yeah Thursdays to release on Wednesdays. Won't that be weird? Um So yeah, it's getting a little late Alfred had internet issues. So unfortunately, he won't be here tonight But we do have one of our semi regular members of the podcast Darren Every podcast except for the E3 special exactly and now you've officially been on more podcasts that are closed And we also have a member of the former podcast team go in old school Mr. Colin. Yeah, it's me Chris kitchen. It's I'm back Talk about Battlefront and and battlefield and oh boy It's it's Colin of youtube.com forward slash Colin's Ram fame. That's right. It's Colin's Ram I am sick of Kotaku going Kowloon Learn to read. Oh Colloon sounds better to be honest. Howloon is a city in Hong Kong You would know that as your username apparently spells it out. There's also a level in call 30 block ups Okay. All right, so Zelda Yep, so hit also obviously we're here to talk about a lot of stuff. I'm not gonna go over our format We're just gonna jump it into it. Hopefully by now you guys kind of get the gist of it It's just like you don't sound cast Just like just like the old podcast But I will remind you as we get to each section just so you know how long each segment is in case you want to skip First segment last 30 minutes and we're just talking about news or select topics All right, so obviously we have a lot to talk about or could talk about with the newly announced Zelda game breath of the wild Are we did an entire podcast just about that last week? But we're just gonna focus on two specific topics with breath of the wild this week because we have some NX news and Some potential talk about the next sell the game Yeah, we don't even this one yet. We already are talking with the next one. It's crazy amazing so One topic I really want to talk about with breath of the wild and it's something we didn't cover a lot in last week is One that you could finish the game from the beginning without doing any of the story. That's crazy And you can finish the game naked or it should say in his boxers He's not technically naked So you don't have to pick up any of the armor items to beat the game either Yeah, that's that's that's good to me. That's that's the new three-heart run Yeah, that's that's I'm really I'm really liking this this new legend of Zordal because this new legend of Zardas because I Mean I said this like in the last podcast numerous times that it reminds me of The old NES one which is what I've been wanting the franchise to return to since I don't know Twilight Princess I've been wanting like a new Basically an actual true sequel to the first Zelda. I know Zelda 2 exists. Don't worry. Don't scream at me I know Zelda 2 exists. I love it But I want a game that actually is like Zelda 1 but new and that's what this is like and seeing that you can be able to just Go through the game. However, the hell you want is very reminiscent of old old old original O.G. Zelda, so that's cool. I like that. Yeah What's nice about how they're approaching it to is yes You can do anything you want in the game right away You want to go fight the final boss like you just want to zip to him go for it You might kick your ass, but he is defeatable If you could figure it out you can do it with just some crappy weapons and no clothes I bet this probably sound like cheaty cheesy Tactics that you could use and oh You have to crouching in the corner against Darkling. Yeah. Yeah like that What you have to do is you have to beat the running man, and then you can Then you can beat Ganon naked Did you guys know Pop Fiction came back? That's hype. Yes, we were talking about that before the recording It's called game sleuth now. I'm so excited Yeah, same voice actor and everything I I miss those game trailers people so to see yeah Yeah, the game trailers people for those who don't know who watch pop fiction. We used to post a bunch of stuff at our site They're not called easy allies You can support them over at patreon.com slash easy allies and they're making basically a lot of the same stuff They used to make they're not really doing trailer stuff anymore, but they do game reviews They brought back pop fiction now known as game sleuth It's written and directed by Michael Damiani and voiced by Brandon Jones I believe he does all their voicing because he's got like professional background and voice stuff Yeah, and their first episode was about the running man and whether you can beat an ocarina time I figured that's exactly why he brought it up. He must have just watched it. Yeah, um Yeah, I just watched it too. I don't think we've posted around the site. Yeah, we gotta get on that. Yeah I've watched it while very messily eating chicken teriyaki. I was really excited For the chicken teriyaki not game sleuth, but a little bit Yeah, so One thing I really like that they're doing about this though is they're hearkening back to Zelda 1 which a lot of games Aren't like Zelda 1 just in general. There's a lot of open-world games out there But very few of them Zelda has been like Zelda 1 since Zelda 1 I don't think any games men like Zelda 1 since other one I think like link to the past and links awakening is maybe the only thing that's kind of close And even then they're they're only like vaguely like the first one But a key thing a key thing in this is obviously not every Zelda fan out there likes the ways all the one works Where you have very little story no direction People like directions at times. They like to know where they should go next and this game didn't forget that It looks like I mean we won't know until the actual game comes out because as we all know they said for the e3 demo they cut out a lot of NPCs and towns just to keep the story under wraps, but like I don't know. I feel like having that very loose Story is is Feels more adventurous than having an overblown plot in your face every five minutes sure Yeah having to be bound to the plot It's something that scour you know It was a very linear linear type of thinking have been bound to the plot kind of like skyward sword But in Breath of the Wild, you know you can skip as much of the stories Yeah, and as we said before you can challenge the final boss right from the start So it's something that I like what I find interesting about this approach is Usually in Zelda the story is you need to stop the big bad guy, right? Like everything you're doing is to go stop the big bad guy But you in this story you find out about the big bag at least in the demo that I played You find out about the big bad guy right away Calamity Ganon and that if he gets the full power The whole world is gonna be destroyed or whatever like okay cool. So I can go kill him right away. All right Gotta go So it's kind of like that's it you go beat him. That is the end of the story But it sounds like from what I what I'm gathering is that a lot of the story Isn't gonna be based around stopping Calamity Ganon because you can go stop him at any time It's going to be based around figuring out why the hell Link was asleep for a hundred years and Figuring out who the heck is talking to you So it basically it's optional because you already know what you need to do right away and you can go do it or You can explore and do other stuff and find out all this other backstory and lore what happened to the world all the stuff that Isn't really about stopping the big bad guy. It's just general curiosity Yeah, I want to know so go find it out if you don't want to know go stop the big bad guy Mm-hmm, and I read today in an interview. I think it was with polygon. I'm not sure and Numa said some of the story elements are Revolved around the world being corrupted And it's going to be tied in with sci-fi elements like the technology Whether that is tied to Calamity Ganon or not I don't know. He didn't say but some of the story will revolve around the world being corrupted So I do want to reassure some fans because obviously as I said not a lot of fans I sort of like that that sort of freedom because all the games have him and based in this kind of freedom in 30 years so It's understandable fans like the structure of an ocarina of time or a Twilight Princess or even the Wind Waker or Skyward Sword Some fans really want that structure and this game does have it if you want it That's what's really unique about this is you can do and you go anywhere do anything But it does have like the Sheikah slate and the stuff you can do with it And the voice talking to you that kind of nudges you to hey go over in this direction And I'll even be like a little marking on your map that you should go to and I think It's gonna do stuff like that But unlike those prior games. It's not like go to it You have to go to it like everything everything's walled off and you have to go that way like no You don't you just forget anyone said anything and just do whatever the hell you want So the structure is going to be there for those that desire it You're always gonna know where you should be heading If you want more story, I think is how this game is gonna work But the game's not gonna make you go there if you don't want to or just be a cool guy And just just skip all of it Yeah, I mean and in exploring you might find out certain parts of the story before others and am I confused you who knows But we haven't seen any of the side quest stuff. So who knows what's gonna happen with that But yeah, so I just think it's really cool that The game just lets you do anything you want yet. It does give you enough structure If you're someone who prefers that structure So It's kind of neat. It's just it's unique. I don't know if any game in the world that's ever done this before I Mean, there's lots of open-world games. So someone's gonna catch me on something. Yeah. Yeah If you were a if you were a What's the word I'm thinking of if you were a clever little pickle you could you could like skip all of fallout 3 and Just beat the game as a baby I think someone said you can do something similar to fallout 4. Oh Maybe I don't I don't know I haven't heard of anyone doing it But I someone at E3 you mentioned that go skipping to the last thing you can do in the game is like something You can follow for But yeah, so I don't know those are obviously you know games in this similar genres But not really cuz like yeah shooty shooty and yay swing a sword But yeah, so The the next time for breath a while we're gonna move on to Just has to do with the overall reaction to breath of the wild Nintendo did something really crazy and only having breath of the wild on the show floor and that was it. There was nothing else and Basically with that alone the general consensus coming out of the E3 show floor is that One Nintendo won the E3 show floor to Nintendo had the longest lines despite having the most demo stations and Three all the online reactions to it suddenly made it the most talked about game on social media They won a bunch of awards at all these different sites IGM's obviously the biggest one that I won awards at including game of the show It's crazy Nintendo did this big risky thing And now it doesn't seem so risky in hindsight Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't necessarily call it risky If anything, I I mean I'm still not Totally for their idea of just having one game at E3, which is what they did I I Says before and I'll say it again It's still very weird to me that Nintendo ignored the 3ds in a year that probably has the strongest lineup of games 3ds ever I challenge that how okay. Let's go. Let's go. What I'm just gonna sit back and watch Do you remember the games that came out in it was either 2013 or 2014 yeah There was one of those years. They've released something like 10 of their 12 best-selling games on the whole platform But like the the difference I think here being that the like well, what's the big games this year besides Pokemon? Okay, I actually have a list. I Bring the list up. I'm just generally curious the rest of the top of my head Off the top of my head. I know that three of the biggest franchises from the DS are coming back We have a new hotel dusk. We have a new ace attorney. We have a news 999 in the form of zero-time dilemma River Retro god damn it censor it. I swear children are listening River City is coming back with River City Ransom SP, which is pretty hype. There is a new Pokemon Mario Luigi Paper Jam. I need to find this list again Paper Jam sucks. Whatever. There's two Dragon Quest games. That's not an American thing that Never is an American thing. We never get Dragon Quest games in America Um, hopefully Final Fantasy 1 and 2 come here, please I had a big minute checking. No, I The list I had is is literal weeks old. I have to go search through my old Skype and find what I what I what I hear from you in that list is a bunch of titles that appeal to niche Niche crowds, but like I wouldn't say that because Hotel dusk or the big like are some of the largest like not only best-selling games on the original DS But also the ones that when people go what games do I buy on the DS they go those three It's funny because until now. I've never heard of those three games. You've never heard of ace attorney No, I've heard of a ace attorney. Yes, but it sales actually dwindled over the years And out of the games that you listed I am going to buy zero of them I'll get I'll get Pokemon Sun and Moon and that's probably it for the 3ds. Yeah, like I kept thinking about like there's Pokemon Sun and Moon and I'm a warrior's also came out this year. I actually did get higher warriors legends Yeah, I did get higher warriors and I plan to get a bunch of Nindies coming out too. There's a bunch of indie games Yeah, there's a whole bunch of indie titles like I'm not gonna say like the 3ds doesn't have a strong lineup The 3ds has a pretty solid line of almost 100 generations I'm like there. There you go. There you go drive There he goes Kirby Oh Kirby Kirby hasn't sold well in years. It doesn't matter. It's still a large one They're still known games like I know I get your point. I get your point as I said I'm sure it has a strong lineup. It just doesn't have a lineup that interests me Kirby playing at Robobot has been wildly accepted as a good game. So I have to give it that We may or may not get Detective Pikachu at some point. So I know I do get your point You're getting back on topic. I do understand your point that you know, it can be disappointing. They didn't show off Even during the live the the Treehouse stream They didn't really really show off a huge amount of the library for the rhythm heaven corpse party Yep, they actually had a trailer for that at the Treehouse show But yeah, so it you know, they got all this, you know, oh hang on new RPG from Grezzo. Yeah Oh, I found the list. Here's what I'll tell you Here's where I'll tell you that Breath of the Wild was a brilliant move at E3 Yeah They could not they Literally within 10 minutes of the doors opening shut down the line To breath of the wild because it was too long So imagine that they had this game breath of the wild with say even half the demonstrations They had there so let's say they filled half their booth at those the other half was all these other 3ds games No one's lining up to play those games. They're all trying to get in the cell line So why would they not take advantage of all the floor space and just give it to Zelda if they already know the lines are gonna be crazy Because they have nothing else to show They do just listed off a bunch of games they could have shown I know I know but as far as like Nintendo made games that they They have to be it could be 3ds exclusives. They showed off 3ds exclusives on the Treehouse stream Clearly they have announced a Mario Party That actually looks decent. No it doesn't don't lie. Don't lie to yourself. It's not going to be good It'll be better than 10. Just say that it'll be better than 10 Will it be better than Island tour because I'm still burnt by that. Oh boy Island Anyways Anyways, obviously my opinion is pretty strong that I was at well. I was at E3 So I have a lot different perspective than any people at home I'm very happy it was just both of the wild not just because it's all that informer But because if it wasn't I would not have got to play it Yeah, cuz the line it was bad like the very the very first line I got into it took me three hours to get through and when you wanted to get back into it again The average weight was said to be five hours and the show floor was only open for five hours that day I sure would have loved to play it but but Nintendo, New York decided to cap off Well, they needed to the devil's like we're like what 35 minutes long They should have done the best buy thing they should just had the demo and yeah, no 35 minute demos Imagine how well how well a 35 minute demo is gonna go a best buy. Best buy would have loved that. Oh my god Best buy would have killed Nintendo if they did that I'm not Walmart at 8 for hours man. I've remembered best by doing weirder stuff I remember when PlayStation new new PlayStation move was new They actually had like a Sony representative there being like let me take the next 15 minutes to show you how cool PlayStation move is That's cuz they knew they knew it wasn't gonna All right, I'll spit speaking of PlayStation obviously they have you know the Neo coming out like later and You know Xbox has the s coming out this year and they have the Scorpio they announced coming out next year So this kind of segues really well into the NX itself because that's really the competition the NX is gonna be dealing with It's not the PlayStation for the Xbox one. It's the Neo. It's the Scorpio It's the the smaller version that has slightly better hardware for the Xbox one And in this we have a couple a couple things going on with the NX first off We know when the NX is going to be announced or at least talked about Nintendo of Canada GM Pierre Paul Treponnier stated that we decided to the focus on Zelda at E3 So we'll talk about the NX in the fall and at that time. It's gonna be 100% NX And then more than that we got to learn a little bit about some of their focus for the system Which has people scared we're Reggie Fisame said for us. It's not about specs. It's about the teraflops It's not about the horsepower of a particular system for us. It's about the content, which you know that scares people Yeah, that scared me when I read it. I was let's just stop there What do you guys think on these on these two remarks here about we're gonna learn in the fall We know what the competition is doing and we know that apparently they don't give a crap about specs again However, it should be noted It will be more powerful than the Wii U because it's already been confirmed Look better on it. So for anyone think it's gonna be like a Wii GameCube situation It's it's not it's gonna be more powerful, but we don't know and then that's it This is what we know but like thoughts I feel like that's really vague of a statement of I mean it is and it's supposed to be but I Don't think saying it's going to look and run better necessarily means it won't be similar hardware. I Really, I really don't know at this point. I really don't know what to expect of the NX because it's such a It's such a odd Thing that we still have have no idea of what the hell it is Yeah, I I know at the NX is just I Want to know more about it. I Mean I I really hope it's still the rumor of like the whole thing built into a gamepad Because that would be neat. I Like the gamepad. I genuinely do. I think it's a really neat thing. I like it, too But I'd rather have a home console with a controller Breath of the Wild doesn't use it which is interesting. Yeah after they specifically said it will use it in 2014 and then a new one was like no, I think it sucks. Let's not use it That's basically what I and I think it has to do with the NX. Yeah, there is no Do you do you think? Here's I was just pondering this before do you think what the NX will be is going to be like a console that uses a You know like a pro controller type controller or something But you can buy a gamepad separately and just like sync it up That's an interesting question because that's that's something I I came up with about half a year ago Based on rumors from half a year ago about how like if if the NX is a gamepad Then maybe they'll solve the they'll solve the backwards compatibility issue by having the NX sync like the end the new NX gamepad sync up with your old Wii U So you have new hardware and old hardware because I don't know like every time I think of the NX I can't help but think it's gonna be either something I Would say less GameCube and Wii and more like Game Boy and Game Boy color Hmm where it's a marginally more powerful more I think excessive version I think you have a really cool idea, and I think that's not what Nintendo is gonna do it all Well, because I think it's a good idea about at least you know, it's either I think you have to come up with something Interactions with the Wii U are gonna be non-existent like they are going to basically forget the Wii U ever happened Which is Here's what I want the NX to be I want to be a box With amazing power that blows every other console out of the water and have the most Standard controller. I don't care if it's an Xbox one ripoff. I just want a really powerful box for the standard controller Here's the counter. Here's the counter. I want a console so you just want what you just want to what already exists Hello Darren what oh I Said so what you want is what already exists. Why would I want something that already exists that will play Nintendo games? I Want more because the game pad is the comfiest thing to have ever been built for video games And I want to play every video game on the game pad And I love the game pad too. I hear a lot of hate for it You're genuinely the first person I've heard that agrees with me that it's actually a comfortable controller Everyone else thinks it's cumbersome. Here's here's what I love about the Wii U I love that I can plug the Wii U into a random power outlet Put the console atop the shelf that hangs above my bed and then just use the game pad for everything I think that is the that is so good when you're sick And you're gonna be in bed for like four days Counter to that. Isn't that what handheld gaming is for? But like why play your 3ds at that point aside to play all those amazing games that are coming out this year when you can Also play like full titles on this thing. That's only slightly larger than an iPad mini Yeah, but at the same time the only reason you're getting that is because the console it's with isn't that powerful What? The reason that you can have that game pad in your bed and have that console plugged in is because the console isn't powerful Because if it was you're talking about a six hundred dollar system because that game pads expensive as shit. I mean the price of the game pads always been like a Strange thing because it's not exactly using State of our tech. Yeah, it's it's it's really it's using old tech. That's expensive for some goddamn reason Yeah, I I don't know why but I would I mean That's why I said like it's a I understand what you're saying. It's really convenient buy a $500 video card plus like an Nvidia shield to play their Skyrim on the go. I have my expensive ass computer plus a steam link for $50 so I can play my PC games in another room. I I have a $100 Windows tablet that can play Xbox games and Steam games wirelessly. I don't think the the hardware is that much of an issue they could Pull it off. Well, you see you have all this stuff and and people do spend $500 on this and you know another on the shield But that's a very small group of people But like I don't know I feel like Nintendo could get away with making like Nintendo's user base for the Wii U Is probably bigger than the whole overall user base, but I feel like they could get away with making a more powerful Wii U That still has all the cool features, but with more power for cheaper Like if I did I just don't see that If you can buy an X bone for for $300 and you can buy a Windows tablet for a hundred and get pretty much the same setup I think you're fine Sure, but I digress Yeah, I don't think I think it's done if you can buy a ps4 for 300 and a Vita for 100 and get Well, I'll put it to you like this. I'll put it to you like this. Okay, so the Wii sold a hundred million, right? Yeah, okay. Well, it was the wemo was the wemo featured on their next system as like the main go is the main input Are you so would the NX use a wemo? Well, no, what I'm saying is the Wii U had the same brand name as the Wii which was a problem Yeah, yeah, yeah months of whatever for all lots of problems however the we had so a hundred million people bought the Wii use the wemo and The wemo was not the leading controller for the next system. They said, you know what? No, we're doing a standard controller with the screen in the middle So if they were willing to do that after a console that just sold a hundred million units Why would they be willing to forego that go back to just using the screen and the gamepad stuff on a console That's sold the least amount of units in the history of the of the company Because they are so popular and they didn't and they didn't like they did not keep the wemo It's going like you can use them But that's not you don't buy a Wii U to use wemo Because Nintendo also is really good at the handheld thing Which is why everyone thinks the NX is gonna be a gamepad that literally connects to everything and has hardware inside it Well, that's that's mostly because they think that they're that everyone's so caught up in this being a hybrid Even though Nintendo said it would not be People think they're lying supposedly But yeah, we're gonna move on to one last topic We could talk about the NX for hours I mean an extra calculation. Well, welcome to the new podcast. We got it. We got a cave kind of Gotta kind of keep it going here because we got about two and a half minutes here. I just wanted to bring up And Nick's whatever the Not not about NX rumors like there's a new rumor that's gonna be as powerful as the PlayStation Neo like that's a bunch of bunk That's a bunch of bunk. I just I would love that but it's not so polygon Yeah, so polygon did an interview with series producer A. G. Anima for obviously breath of the wild and This is what they said so the series so the Zella series has always featured large worlds But nothing has ever been on the scale. Nintendo is suggesting with this particular game However, Anima says that won't necessarily be the only style is all the game going forward So here's what he said you've seen in triforce heroes. I created a different I create a lot of different type of Zelda games funny because he didn't actually make that game I definitely do think about creating another title just like breath of the wild But I also enjoy creating different types of Zelda games Okay, so obviously this is dealing with what's next after breath of the wild because we know when breath of the wilds coming It's probably close to being completed development wise crossbow training to calling it now. I have a third. So I Hear this quote. Here's what I think and next controller is an actual crossbow Their handheld systems are still going to have I'd say more traditional Zelda games could breath of the wilds on a traditional So a traditional more maybe more top-down style Might be a little bit more free like a link to a link between worlds, but it won't be as wild as a breath of You know a breath of the wild is And then for future console games. I hear this. I definitely do think you want to create another one I'm thinking sequel the breath of the wild I hope you turn around game. They punch out in three. Yeah, I hope they just reuse the engine And then after that he might be like hey, we're gonna go back and do something like Occurrence handyman or something like I think he's trying to prep us for you Yes, we're probably going to have another game like breath of the wild But hey every game we make is not gonna be like this. So like don't expect it Yeah, and I kind of I can reuse the branch of the wild engine a little bit But yeah, I kind of hope they use they reuse the breath of the wild engine and pump out like a sequel to that in Two years for the NX Kind of like they did with Majora's Mask because Majora's Mask is great You know they can do it again With the breath of the wild engine I think and then after that they can make their remixed ocarina of time whatever bullcrap I just want another open-world Zelda game like breath of the wild. Oh Like I my hopes for this game is that it was gonna set the standard for the series going forward Which meant that every game should build off of it Which means this shouldn't be the last of it because every other game the future should be like this and then some And then it sounds like that's not what it's gonna be like it sounds like we will get at least one more like this But I don't know I mean if this game takes off and say it becomes the first one to sell 10 10 million units between two different systems and 10. I might change their tune, you know, I don't know I Mean I that hopefully will change their tune, but I don't know I Mean because ocarina of time what became the best-selling game in the series and Every game has been really based around that sense So like I'm hoping that like so this game has to become the best-selling game I think for them to continue doing this kind of Zelda over and over again So if this game say it only sells five million, which is still really really strong Especially because I think the best-selling games are like about eight seven and six something like that So it'd be right up there in like the top five I don't think that's good enough for them to be like, yeah, we're gonna keep taking five to six years making Zelda games So they're this awesome Which I mean fans want Zelda games sooner, but Getting games like this are not easy I'll just leave it at that Colin got any thoughts. I Was pondering about this the other day and that is like the majority of The Zelda handheld titles have been taken like they usually base their styles off of Link to the past and the original Zelda and it made me wonder if Yeah, right this this newer titles meant to be super open world and all that if maybe the handheld ones Will start being more like Ocarina and Majora's Mask That'd be pretty cool. I mean otherwise I I Just want breath of the wild to be out so I can form an opinion on it before I have an opinion on future Zelda games like this New Zelda game that hasn't been released yet. I Mean I I definitely sat at a computer and watched all eight hours of the Zelda live stream, but I'm still you know Yeah, so did I play the game before going like yeah, I'm okay with every game in the franchise being like this afterwards Every every single no, I want breath of the wild to back to the sack three electric boogaloo For live free or breath of the wild And I'm gonna apologize for our listeners right now. I totally just screwed up my audio recording so like I lost three minutes This is awesome. Um, ah Anyways, so I will I will try to make that work our timer went off too We're gonna move on to probably my favorite part of the podcast. We have a nice little 15-minute segment That's all about fan topics And no surprise. You guys are talking about breath of the wild Okay, team star shocker. Oh one fan topic. That's not about it And it's one that I believe mr. Collin will have a lot of fun But we'll save that one for the end so he can go off on his little tirade Okay, so let's just jump right in the first fan topic we have I got the time we're going it comes from Brian I'm really bad at pronunciation. So I'm just gonna say Brian P It says is link in this game the same link as the one from Zelda 2 It seems so it is widely believed that breath of the wild is actually Zelda 3 I like that. I like this man. I like what he's thinking wondering What takes place after Zelda 2 and the whole sleeping spell dynamic is in there as well, I Like his thoughts Give that man a medal holy crap Yeah, because when they said link was asleep for a hundred years The first thing I thought was Zelda was asleep for a hundred years in Zelda 2. I Don't was it a hundred. Yes. Yes. It was a hundred years. I Don't get it. How could she be asleep for a hundred years because link linkin's all the one it was a different Zelda Yeah, I don't remember that I'm gonna have to go back and read the man. I don't think she was asleep for a hundred years I'm pretty sure she wasn't asleep for a hundred years Yeah, I could I could be wrong. Hang on my loud ass keyboard is to the is to the I Just don't remember it. Hey, I do not remember the whole story is all the time They show out my keyboard go to unicomp.com and get yourself a IBM model M. Clicky. It's pretty great. Don't get some 1980s keyboard Well, he's so well He looks that up to see if it really was a hundred years because it was that would definitely be an interesting parallel more keyboard clicking The only reason I'll put this so there's a lot of references For where this game could be on the timeline Because this game references so many different games. It's crazy Zelda 3 is a very interesting point to put it at you know, which would be right after obviously Zelda 2 the adventure link and I Disagree with some of the assessment even if you know Zelda wasn't asleep for a hundred years because again That's that would be the most interesting aspect of this if that was true Because link didn't go to sleep at the end of the game So I don't get like he actually it's like the one game He is inferred to have kissed Zelda and like gotten with her and this is a game where he gets with prostitutes for help Yes, they are Like I don't know how they can't be I Know what's a children's game? So like it's not gonna say it but come on it is literally come in my house and I will heal you Yeah, that's The kind of healing going on seems like an overnight affair. Let me tell you Anyways, I guess I'm wrong. I don't know. I vote I it's so weird. I've always been told from yeah I thought I was always told from other people that it was a different Zelda and that she was asleep for a hundred years or something I don't know where that came from Yeah, that made no sense to me Like old wives tale, I don't know I don't have the yeah, yeah, I don't have the instruction I just have the gold cart and I play you know you could get get the full triforce in our career time Did you know did you know that Sonic is actually blue this does thought to be a glitch But it's actually a well-placed Easter egg by the developers so So Brian, I think it would be a really cool spot to put the game Especially with its clear inspiration from Zelda one in terms of gameplay style and world building But that's all I really got the story for me for that that particular link felt like it wrapped up in Zelda 2 I don't really know why people think it didn't Because all the two is like my one of my all-time favorites. It is my favorite Zelda game Perfect never felt like after Zelda 2 finished. I never felt like there needed to be more Like we got link God is happy and he finally got to be with the princess Like the only time he ever ever in the series got to be with the princess I'm really so like he got his happy ending. So why would he be put to sleep for a hundred years? I'm really I'm confused. It feels like it's like he'd be punished like oh, man You finally got with the princess. Yeah, now we have to put you to sleep for a hundred years like what? I'm really upset I learned a while ago that Ocarina of Time started development as a sequel to Zelda 2 done on the Super Nintendo and I was like I want that Oh, I career time had a lot of interesting directions going Yeah, oh, there's someone if you guys we used to have a bunch of beta stuff a lot on our side I don't know if you can find it anymore But there's still some sites out there that have a lot of interesting factoids from the early early alphas and betas Inspiration where it used to be coming to used to be a sequence of the two then it was Literally just a 3d right remake of a link to the past. No, it's just some crazy stuff Yeah, we could talk on it now, but again, we only have 10 minutes left So we're gonna move on that is a very interesting idea Brian very interesting comment obviously Yeah, he thinks you're his hero even though he's wrong in the hundred years thing You're still a hero for bringing internet lied to me. I can't believe the internet lied to me That's your problem. You're believing the internet Anyways as we're talking to the internet so The next one comes from to Bonnie led low He says all of my questions are a breath of the wild related. No surprise Are there any words on new characters in the game such as villagers and people who help link on his quest? I'm always curious about the villages and villagers and the game being as big as it is I'm hoping that there will be a lot more villages. Maybe some fun hidden ones, too So that's his first question to to address that there is going to be a bunch of villages and villagers We don't know how many we just know they exist because Nintendo said they exist. Yeah, again, they they removed a lot of the Yeah, they said that they purposely They purposely either Steered away from those areas and or they physically remove them from the demo. Yeah They made it so it was impossible in the actual demo itself to get to it And obviously the stuff they showed in the trio stream They were you be able to go beyond the demo But like there was one point in the stream where they were coming up to like a story area and like Bill turns a guy can't go over there So like they didn't cut out everything out of those out of their demos, but They avoided the stuff they could so yes, they exist and there's probably side quests and all those crazy stuff with them We just don't know We just know there they exist and you know, you ask a really pointed question and how many minigames I hope they put in a lot of minigames That's a good question for a Giannomo and he probably would tell you yeah, they exist The whole game is minigames It's like yeah, we got minigames like I mean They hasn't been confirmed to be minigames in any interview I've read yet But minigames have been in Zelda since Zelda one Yeah, yeah, there's a game in Zelda one you can play Money-making game. Yep So yeah, so there's gonna be many that all your money away kids gambling is fun Yeah, right very first of the game you gamble Anyways, then he says are there more side quests with awesome rewards like they did with Majora's Mask You know rewards that actually help link move further in the game and not just a handful of rubies. I really hope so We do not know Just like we don't know your next question. It says is tingle making an appearance Well, I could tell you don't know probably making appearance The old man here's what I could tell you tingle will be making an appearance not on the next boss man episode But probably the boss man episode after that Keep it tally on the E3 bets I it has not been fully tally yet, but I was pretty sure I was gonna lose coming into E3 because Alfred I got to change the rules man Yeah Dingle on the next boss man. Oh by the way by the way for anyone I know this is a weird turn to bring it up for anyone hoping to have our E3 results E3 best results because Alfred's not here Because the final tally is not complete. It will be on next week's podcast So you can look forward to that then and if his last question is finally Will there be a fishing hole that I can fish in I don't know what's fishing confirmed yet? Yes fishing. There's definitely fishing. You can only do it with bombs. Yeah, there's no fishing pull shown off only killing fish with bombs Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah, I was right. You can fish with bombs So, you know the government tells you you can't take that TNT stick and throw it in the river There ain't no government here, man So there we go so one so one of your questions well two of your questions We could give you answers on there will be villages with villagers and probably side quest to go along with Probably many games But we don't know how many we can't answer your side quest stuff or tingle But you can fish right now with bombs maybe with a fishing pole later. We have no idea But right now you can fish with bombs Which is kind of cool and this final question. I really want to get I'm glad I sped through this because We were just talking about this briefly before the podcast Adam demon All he says is mighty number nine I Again, this is fan topics So Colin there's just some days you can't get rid of a bomb I'll just let you run with this. I I backed you got five back to mighty number nine when it was a Kickstarter I I gave it money. I still haven't gotten all of the stuff. They promised me all they gave me was a digital code for the Wii U I started playing it last night It's a train wreck of a game And then I learned after I went to bed and woke up in the morning that the Wii U version of mighty number nine can actually Potentially brick your Wii U so Plus there's all these other technical issues the game has been getting on the PC. It's being picked up as a It's being picked up by antivirus possibly a false positive, but whatever it's still there The Mac and Linux versions have been delayed the 3ds and Vita versions have been delayed There was a game breaking through bug in the Xbox three in the 360 version So they had to delay that as well and And apparently half the codes for PlayStation 3 and ps4 are not working What a trade and for a game that is not that great Yeah, it is not reviewing well it is at all. Yeah, and the guy in for you and the guy came out He's like, uh, yeah, I accept full responsibility. This is all my fault, but he doesn't care. He's already made his money so a lovely quote by the developers is In this is an exact quote verbatim In the end we think that money number nine while not perfect is better than not nothing Which is that's actually This is Series going for this It's just that's that was not something in for you and said I believe I believe it was just something that translator threw in This one is number nine mighty number nine is Probably the biggest train wreck in terms of It's the biggest well-known a well-known developer Hopping off from the main AAA stream to supposedly creating a type of game that everybody wants It's going to Kickstarter and just totally Proving that he he can't do it. It's it's it's definitely going to be I think the It's going to go down as probably a new sonico at least I Wouldn't say the new sonico sex. It's not that buggy But um, it's But it's not that good. It's not that funny. I mean that's the ticket. Um, it's it's definitely so far out of like A lot of the big Things to have come out of Kickstarter that ended up not being that great broken age Uh, the uya Anita Sarkeesian. It's certainly Ranked very low on those things. Uh, the coolest cooler, but um I What's astounding What's truly astounding is just like Okay, so I I want to get one thing off my chest and it's a very common misconception and I've done my research This one's real guys. Don't worry. I'm not Blowing smoke up your wahoo like the zelda thing zelda 2 thing. Um Everyone likes to credit inif inif une as being uh One of if not the creators of megaman and that is not the case Um, he He's been with the series He's been with the series for a very long time just about since the beginning, but he's never actually been Really the you know real head of the creative process He's been And except for a few chance times that he has been director And it really makes me wonder how being a director of a megaman title or even dead rising 2 which is a game he was a director of works because Playing mighty number nine. It's it's it's it doesn't feel like someone who directed a megaman game It feels like something someone who looked at a megaman game and went I can make that Yeah, yeah, like mighty number nine if this was just a normal indie game Made by anybody else I don't think it would get the hate it's no well the problem is that I think it would just be like Hey, this is a pretty solid game someone. I wouldn't say pretty solid. It's quick inspirations Okay, the setting aside all of the issues it has on the various consoles and the bugs and all that crap because It exists even the game itself is playable even from a design standpoint though It's not great the the level design and the enemy design. I said this on my twitter It's not it's not bad, but it's annoying. No, that's it's very that's my point My point my point was that it's not like it's it's not super terrible But the expectations for it were so high and those expectations wouldn't be there if this was just a random person Making a game You know based on megaman, you know who has no experience if there wasn't uh If there wasn't thousands of people who collectively donated four million dollars to this one man Video game and give him three years to do it If there wasn't a guy that had the clout that he kind of came, you know, because even broken age wasn't this terrible um No, not by a long shot and I hate tim Schaefer Uh, I will I will you in any other I will give a a little recommendation while we're here before the uh The show ends because I there's going to be some people going oh man, you know mighty number nine Disappointing that that's I wanted a true spiritual successor to mega man But here's the thing there is one there's been one by the original creator of mega man since 1991 Akira kitamura the actual creator of mega man made a game called koko ron or koko ron For the famicom and it is it is mega man plus it is the mega man plus that you've been wanting Forever and it's been right under our noses the whole time I own it. I've played it. It's it's it's a blast Go emulate it or something Don't do that illegally, please um Yeah, let me let me let me let me let me correct myself. Um Legally go on ebay and buy this game for buy a company that's defunct and no one's getting money for anyway All right, um And that's gonna do it for our So thank you. We actually got through all of the facebook ones. We didn't get through any of the The the twitter ones. Well, you will probably save some of these for next week. There's some good questions This one too. I do wanted to give one shout out because liam oliri At shadow 7557 did mention that zeldathon is happening right now, which it is Or will be I think it's urgent 27th or did start already it is going on. Yes Um, yeah, I think it's going on right now. Um, so yeah, zeldathon. It's great Type zeldathon in google if you don't know, maybe I'll put a link down in the description Uh, zeldathon great people. They raise a lot a lot of money. They are the single most popular Uh, zeldestreaming marathon group in the world Um, and they raise, you know hundreds of thousands of dollars for charity It is great what they do. They're entertaining. They're fun And they turn their entire fund raising into a game, which is probably why they do so well You know, yeah, and I've been contributing money towards goals. It's really cool Yeah, yeah, like they're they're they're a good group of people. We've had to talk to them before and You know, we'll probably get a post on zeldathon or maybe I don't know. We're so behind on stuff I don't even know where we're at So we're gonna move to our final segment Which is the final 15 where we talk about our favorite thing from the past week Um, I I think I have a good idea what one thing's gonna be mentioned um So, uh, Darren hasn't had a chance to talk since we just let uh Collin go off on a five minute six minute rant Darren, what's the favorite thing that happened in the past week and remember zelda was technically announced on tuesday Oh, so does that mean I have to pick that? Does that mean I have to pick that? Well, I'm saying no, I'm saying Breath of the wild technically you can't say like the announcement of breath of the wild because that would have been last week's podcast Okay, well excluding the breath of the wild announcement um I finally ordered harrow warriors legends and I've been playing that uh I expected it to be Basically just a port Uh, I thought the new stages would be cool But It's not just a port and they kind of went into this in his review There's a lot of new mechanics. Well, not a lot, but a lot of new mechanics They added there is enough to make a significant difference Yes, you can tell uh, you know your Different characters where to go like if you're playing as impa and you also actually command them You can tell she go there Yeah, and you you can command them you can tell them where to go and you can switch between characters Which is a huge help instead of having to run across and why this wasn't available in the wii u. I have no idea Yeah, I don't know. Um, then the my fairy thing. I haven't really used my fairy I don't plan on it because it looks weird and confusing, but if you're into fairies then Hooray for you. Um I have I have played as tune link King of red lions and linkel so far out of the new characters and let me just say I am not a linkel fan. I think her name is dumb. The character concept is dumb Uh She kicks butt I mean she is op in higher wars both in higher wars and legends Her move set is just amazing I I mean they made her very you need to try it for yourself very get higher warriors legends And use linkel you will not regret it. Also, um, koa tecmo nintendo did a very nice job Of weaving linkel story in with the main story. I figured Uh, you'd have to play the whole story through and then play through linkel story, but it's not like that Uh, you play through linkel stages with the main story and nintendo did a great job Uh, and koa tecmo of kind of weaving those together and make it make sense Nice, uh Collin favorite thing to happen in video games this past week Uh, I think my favorite thing to happen in the last week was uh, I released three new videos on my channel go Go check them out Gotta get that shameless self-promotion two cents of uh, youtube revenue Let me get that means I get to take away his shameless self-promotion at the end, right? Uh, no, but my favorite thing actually the last week is uh Uh, there's a new game center episode out And I always love me some game center cx. It's my favorite show Aside from twin peaks if you don't know what game center cx cx is go to, um SA hyphen gccx.com and just start downloading episodes and have fun That's legal. It's legal. Don't worry. It's legal. You can yeah, it is. It's it's Go go watch the super mario collin won't do anything go go to the Watch the super mario land episode. It's a good. Remember you're famous now kao loon. I am I am famous kao loon. I was uh I was featured on kutuku so Let me see now on my favorite weight you were this last week. Good Yeah, I was That's where that came from loon came from Loons from kataku I had one of my uh, okay, you're gonna have to No, I had I had a um, I had a Basically, they have a highlight reel every like couple of weeks and I and I uh one of my rainbow six clips was submitted specifically the one of me screaming like a gorilla while playing rainbow six And uh, they were like kao loon is in for a surprise It was pretty good Oh, man Oh my favorite thing in video games from the past week. Um I'm gonna say my favorite thing was probably Uh Yeah, I can mention this happened the past week was probably the final day of e3 last year or last year last week Man already feels like it was a year ago. Holy crap um I got to go up into so we had like a booth tour scheduled, right? um, and I really wasn't that excited for the booth tour because We had already been in the booth like five or six times at that point Um, and it really wasn't that hard to get into a separate line to just go into the booth on the ground So I was like, what's what's the point of these booth tours, man? Like I've seen it Right, like this is the last day of a3. I've seen this stuff. All right. We're zelda informers. This is why we're here So then they're like, oh, so you've already seen the booth. That's cool So you want to go to the vip area? I'm like, what? Yeah, take me um, so me rod uh Let me see me rod eric and zion all got to go up all got to go up zion of the 21st century um I'm gonna call him that from now on For forever and ever ever since the podcast last week forever and ever So we got to go up to the vip area Um, and immediately immediately play zelda, which was you know, really cool We had already played her the whole bunch breath of the wild And it was kind of cool because they just kind of sat back and just let us play Like we we got to meet an upper management guy uh from golin harris who has like literal direct contacts inside nintendo, which is awesome because my current pr rep Um has to go through a chain of command of like 10 people Which isn't fun and I have the guy at the top now like I I can talk to him directly like that's really cool Um, so hopefully that means we don't get left out of stuff in the future. That would be nice I was telling him. I'm like so an interview with agianoma. That would have been nice this year He's like, yeah, that would have been pretty nice one to it So I'm like dang it. Well now I have that connection I'm awaiting my whole life to get that connection. So that was really cool But no like just that whole vip area experience is just so neat because like you're up there, um Like I have never in my life felt that zelda informer is A job like it's literally a job for me this year. I'm under contract Um, I have a regular paycheck. So it's it's a job But I've never really felt like I'm part of the media like we're just a fan site, right? We're just much a zelda fan talking about zelda And I'm up there and like there's people up there from kataku people up there from game spot People up there from ign like all these huge media sites are just chilling up in this vip area playing zelda And I'm just I'm sitting there at all not at all of the people I'm around because we're all just people, right? Like I don't get that um in awe feeling some people get when they meet like their favorite personalities online You know like if jim sterling was there. I saw kyle bossman there. I love kyle bossman But I didn't like get in all of them and had to like run up and try to get his autograph or anything like that So like I'm just sitting around these people and I'm just playing some zelda and I'm like this is just so cool This is the first time I feel like I was part of all of that Like just that whole media video game media thing and I know there's a lot of Controversy surrounding video game media But like it was just cool to be in that app Let's see what like these this is what these people get to deal with when they come to these events Like they get like this treatment where they don't have to wait in line There's a reason you don't see these people in line and they don't lines. What's that shit? No It's all vip, baby So it was kind of cool and like obviously at that point I had already played the demo like five or six times So I was pretty well versed at what was going on and where to go and how to do cool things Um, and so like they still had reps up there trying to like explain where to go And obviously we had our guy The the top of a guy. I forget his name now. I have his business card really sucks. I forgot his name um And he was all Like trying to explain things then he watches this place like holy shit. You're good at zelda And then I'm like, well, you know who we are, right? It's like I go in there and I I kick like step talus's ass and apparently I was like the first big media member to go up There and kick his ass and I'm like Yeah, your point I'm like, you know, I've already played this thing at five or six times, right? Like this the most of this demo isn't that difficult to me anymore Um, and like in one of the videos that I uploaded that's like a death reel It's not really even like a full death reel. Basically, I was naked, right? And like because you can play the game naked as a set But when you go into the cold areas of the game link loses hearts because he's freezing and you gotta put warm clothes on Well, I didn't have any clothes. I'm naked So I'm trying to get to this shrine that I had never been to because there's a shrine over in the snow area And I had never been to it So I'm trying to get to it trying to get to it trying to presume where it is because I had no idea And it turns out that I was actually heading towards the tallest peak In all of the demo area And I had no idea until I made it to the top because I must have died 15 16 17 times and instead of like the all the nintendo reps down on the floor would be like Why would you just stay away from that doesn't look like you're having fun, dude? I was having a blast Just dying seeing how far I could go figure out which directions I could because like when you die It takes you back. It doesn't take you all the way back Like it only brings you back, you know, like certain amount of feet So you like you want to get like the right respawn points and like all of a sudden like there's this ultra hard Bocablon that was up there and I kicked his ass I they said he was hard. I'm like Maybe for somebody doesn't want to play Zelda Like what am I supposed to say like I'm just like this isn't that I mean maybe Maybe day one like the first time I launched the game. Maybe it would have been difficult But like at this point it was just a really cool like my favorite thing was just how cool that whole experience was to be treated Like you're a big deal, I guess like Like for them to be in awe of your ability to play Game that you've never played before And then like the ability to be up there are surrounded by all these people that you know of that we At zeldinformer we go to their sites and we source them for our news Like these are people that I know them by name because of the work they do and I'm surrounded by them and It's just it was so cool to be in that environment Um, and it's something that it's probably if I don't do zeldinformer the rest of my life I never go to another e3 like that's going to be just a highlight for my life that experience. Um It's almost the point where like, yes, I made it And then you go back to the hotel room and you realize shit. I still have zero money in my bank um This trip just cost me $3,000. Oh my god Those guys they got all paid for by the company me. I had to pay for it myself Dang it massies. If you're listening e3 should be a business trip. You should pay for it. Um It'll That that doesn't sound like it'll it'll it'll never top though My youtube eceleb experience at at magfest where I hung out with Famous youtube ecelebs and we kicked other famous youtube ecelebs out of the hotel room playing street fighter 5 So we could watch a goofy movie. Who do you hang with? Um, who do you hang with super bunny hop austin eruption? okay, uh Woolly of the best friends, uh bunch of guys from did you know gaming? Nice Gilly the kid. I think youtube people youtube wise. I think um, I saw well there was hmk He was impossible to miss the first day because he was based with the blue hair whole tv Well, okay, so at the beginning of the of the first day, right? You have to wait to get in and we're there early and they have the the Treehouse stream out there on some tv's an age of case sitting in front of one of them And as the whole like announcement for breath of the wilds going on He's just going nuts right now. It's cool to be excited. But like This was he wasn't recording his reaction or anything. What you see of him in the videos. That's just how he is all the time um And a lot of times like when you see how people act in the videos They're not necessarily like that all the time like that's just something, you know They do to be entertaining like no, that's just who he is and it pissed off so many people Because everyone's trying to like see the screen. He's there are only three screens He's totally blocking one of them screaming. No one can hear what reggie is saying like oh my god It was it was just not the right time to react that way if that makes sense um So it was really so I didn't even bother to go up and talk to him because like I was gonna go up Talk to him because I know hmk. I have I have like context with him his emails Like I can get a hold of him But I just you know, I just had no desire to really like want to talk to him and team up on anything because it was like man That kind of ruined the moment for me Um, and and I think probably the coolest, uh Guy that I saw I didn't say anything. I watched right by him. I was angry video-gamer Oh, james is uh, is an absolute oh he was james rolls Yeah, he was there. It was really cool. And then uh, oh another one was uh angry joe was also there Um, and that was a big one for my friend eric Uh, I haven't I don't mind. I'm not 100% sure but those are like the two big ones that I saw Um, that I could have actually stopped them and talked to him, but like, you know as I said like Yes, it's cool, but like I'm part of the media. I guess so like I'm trying to fan boy out. I guess if that makes sense um Because why like they're just people like me like it's cool. I'd like to get in contact with him. Yeah, but you know if it looks like They're doing something. I'm not gonna interrupt them um, and of course when I met uh, or when angry joe was walking by uh, because my Uh, my best friend eric was with me. He really likes angry joe a lot and wanted like me to mess Well, it's a cool talk to him Well, of course as soon as he walks by someone like wipes out going down the escalator and like breaks their back or something Wow, it was really scary So like this all happens and I might do like it's really inappropriate now for us to like go up to him with this huge accident Just happened right in front of us like Like sorry man, I know you're I know you're like fanboying it out But like I'm not gonna go introduce you to the guy like it's just not It's not worth it right now the wrong place in time when this shit just went down Um, but yeah, like it's just cool being around all this stuff. Um, you know like I would have loved Like you got to hang out with super bunny hop that would have been cool to hang out with him I would have saw him there Well, if you want to if you want to experience more of me and super bunny hop you should go check out my youtube channel And my twitch another plug Another plug right right when we're about to get into the plug Okay, so that actually ends um our last segment of the podcast So, uh, obviously we ran a little over we always run slightly over because we always let those final points get in And I know I did a lot of talking in the last segment because somehow it got to me and we had like eight minutes to waste Like holy crud that never happens in the last segment Um, so yeah, thanks for listening this episode of the zeldinformer podcast As always you can follow zeldinformer on our usual places on twitter at zeldinformer facebook zeldinformer Uh, I believe our tumblr is zeldadash informer. Maybe it's zeldinformer now I don't even remember google plus look us up zeldinformer go to zeldinformer.com It's all linked from there That's the like your best way to find anything on our site Uh, and then you could also follow me. I am your host Nathaniel Ruffel jance The editor-in-chief you at at neat jance on twitter. You can follow darin at real darn Yeah, emphasizing that real darn Um, and I'll let uh collin put out his Or is youtube or whatever else he wants to plug since he's plugged everything he has My my youtube twitch and twitter are all the same handle. It's uh ka w l u n d r a m call and dram and uh kao lun kao lun And uh, I have a second youtube which is fun furnace, which is not necessarily my Second youtube, but it's a uh, it's run by kaleb who is also on the past podcast and he And our uh me and our friends nick and kevin make content on there and it's great It's cool. It's cool I'm so glad i'm not like you because I would just be talking about nintendo prime all the time. Um I don't anyways, uh, yeah, that that's it guys. Thanks for tuning in this week. I will catch you guys on the flip