 Hello. I think I know a lot of you, but I'm Nick, NB, and... I'm Yonah. So can we sit down, please, so we can start? Thank you. So I'm Yonah. I'm from Albania, and together we will talk about the ambassador's budget, but as I mentioned, will not be aimed only to ambassadors, but also to other people that they might need budget for an event. So how many people are ambassadors here? Okay, and how many people are interested mostly into the budget process, even if they are not ambassadors? Or who's interested in becoming ambassador? You're not an ambassador. You should be one. I will go click the button and make you ambassador. After this talk, I will click the button. I believe you know enough to be an ambassador. Okay, so we got together earlier and came up with some topics we think we should talk about, and then we also hopefully will have plenty of time that people can bring up whatever topic we want to discuss. I don't see this as being a us talking at you about stuff. This is meant to be a discussion of what everybody thinks, so hopefully they'll be productive. Okay, so the first part is related to ambassador's basic process, because lately I have seen people that they are asking, so how is the process and they are not really sure how to request a budget, even if they are ambassadors. Mostly, I don't see anyone in fact from Facebook, because mostly from them I have some questions. That's why one of the topics that we thought to cover was this one. So even if you are not an ambassador, I think it's the same process. So first of all, you need to create a weekly page for your event. So you can include the name of the event, where will happen, when, the time, the date, and also you need to write there what you aim, let's say, what you want to achieve with this event, what is the outcome of the event. And also you need to have a clear agenda at the event. So if you are organizing it, for example, what will be the agenda, who will speak, who will be the speakers, and if you will go to another event to speak, what is the topic that you cover there. So this is for the weekly page. And after creating the weekly page, you can open a ticket on Bajor, so you can request budget and what you need to write at the ticket, so you can include the weekly page, the link of it, and also you can write some, let's say, one sentence about the event and again what is the outcome that you expect from it. And also let's say an estimation related to the people that will attend the talk or the event that you will organize and also the amount. So related to the amount, if you are the organizer of the event, what you want to do with this budget. So you want, let's say, to buy some snacks from the event, like we would do, for example, for the release parties mostly, or if you will go to an event. So for example, your travel expenses, accommodation, and how much is the total of it. So having this, let's say, two points that I mentioned, after this, your ticket will be during the ambassadors meeting. You need to be there during the meeting, so you can say a few words about it and the ambassadors can review your ticket and if they will have any questions, you can respond to them. And after that, you will see if it will be approved or not. Mostly, for example, in India, you need at least five votes that can be approved. And related to SWAP, so when you're organizing an event, of course, that you can request even SWAP. Mostly for the moment on the weekend, if you check it, we have written there that only ambassadors can request budget. But what will happen with other people that they are not ambassadors? For the moment, what we have done, for example, we have talked to them and we have said that you can talk with the local ambassador so he can offer the ticket and he can write there, let's say, your address so the SWAP can go there. So in this way, we are more confident that this SWAP will be used for the event because the ticket is opened by one ambassador that we know. And also is the same, let's say, even with a budget ticket, even if you are not an ambassador, the process is the same. You need to, let's say, follow the same steps that I mentioned but just try to be pretty clear at this step and mention all the things that you said. So for ambassadors, can be easy to vote on the ticket. Any questions related to this slide? Maybe it's not clear or you want to suggest something? We can improve this. No, we didn't turn it down. We just said to him that, first of all, he could ask one of the ambassadors to request budget because, I mean, we need to see, it depends on the cases if we see that he has opened a pass account one month before opening this request, how can you know for what he will use this budget or even the SWAP? In North America, we have that come up with someone who is not a member of the ambassador's group once they were talking about going to some event because we wanted someone with his expertise there and he could go. And I believe we talked to Dex with a view or Matthew or someone, and the conclusion was you do not have to be a member of ambassadors. If the region wants to give you funding, then fine. Yes, generally we would prefer for it to be someone who is not an ambassador, but it is not a requirement. That's why I was saying that I don't think that this was the case that you were saying because we didn't know him at all. I mean, I totally agree with you, but I just want to avoid the cases that we don't know pretty well that person. We don't know nothing. Yes. Does anyone else have any questions about how ambassadors work? Something else that we can add here is the event report. So without the event report, we cannot know how successful was your event. Let's say how many people attended it or we need to know what opinion you have regarding the event that you did or you attended. And without the event report, especially with the reimbursement, I think you cannot be reimbursed without having that event report. So because I see it as a very good way even to measure what happened at your event. So what we were thinking, maybe I have seen even the comments that you mentioned for ambassadors, and I think that it's very nice to have it. So we can present some questions. We were saying even at the diversity today. So they can mention at their event report that they want to write. But on the other hand, I'm not filming on this subject. I don't have a blog. I don't use a blog. Particularly, we want to create a blog that way if people don't desire to have a blog that can still make an event report. Or what I have done in the past is I write my event report and send it to the mail. That is still a report. It's just not requiring people to put it on their personal blog because some people don't want to. I did not realize. This is how Andrew does it. He will not reimburse anybody unless they follow his steps. I would agree. But that's how we back up what we're spending money on. It was a bit hard to get you, Robert, if you may need to correct me, but I believe it's something like it's nominated by just the mentors for the region and it gets sent to the mentors and if there's at least three plus ones and no minus ones within... Yeah. If there's at least three plus ones and no minus ones within a week, let's do this. If no one objects within a certain amount of time, then it's approved and they're made. They do not have to go on it unless there is disagreement. Someone said that one. The process is kind of... can kind of be... What I do is ensure that the person knows what Fedora is about, knows the core foundation, they know just that you feel comfortable that they would be a good representative of Fedora, that they know what's going on and stuff. And then the ambassador... Or then the mentor will put it if it's in the SAMA tract... Or not... Okay, not tract. Yeah. And then they will sponsor them into the ambassador. I think some of it kind of depends on the mentor and the candidate. If it is someone like... Dex was like, hey, I'm not an ambassador. I'm like, why the hell are you not an ambassador? And... Okay. I know he knows what he's doing. I know he knows what Fedora is all about. I'm not going to go through a bunch of steps to... before I approve them because I know he... What is that? My follow-up something is brilliant. So in one case, yeah. Yeah. So my follow-up is how do you know that they're in the... How do you know the way to do it? Yes, we may. Because some people, we know our experience and we will approve them with not much work because they know what Fedora is all about. Which kind of encompasses several of... kind of relates to several of the things on our ideas list. But I went ahead and brought up Matthew's blog post, which kind of goes along with what we were wanting to talk about in the room. So recently, they're asked... We're being asked more to talk about what is the impact of the events we're doing, what do we hope to accomplish, and did we do what we said we wanted to do. And Matthew made his blog post a couple of weeks ago talking about aligning what we're doing to the objectives and do the three additions. So I just wanted to kind of bring up what can we do to basically better justify what we're currently doing and what do we need to change or maybe what should we try to get more results. A lot of people who have these people that are... I mean, a lot of the ambassadors that I know in North America, I would say are more familiar with the world and figure out how we're going to get people that can effectively tell people about things like atomic and modularity. Even if they're not in ambassadors, I mean, if we can recruit people to come to you here, if we know what we want to talk about. A kind of credit for what ambassadors do. I'm like, you look at all the people, we're with the other things that weren't me. But, you know, seriously, she does look at me and I probably can say how many times... I mean, that goes along with what we're talking about. I mean, we have to have the right person for the right event, but there will be a change from how... at least we currently do stuff which is pretty much based on proximity. The West Coast ambassadors do the West Coast events. The East Coast ambassadors do those events because they're there. And we usually have just talked... mainly we've talked about the Dora World Station, which I guess that would line up with one of the additions to the Dora World Station. But I guess what, from the reading that Matthew's brought us, it would be more... Yeah, we could talk about the Dora World Station, but we need to say what we hope to accomplish. Am I understanding that correctly? Less effective, for the service, the normal order of a group of individuals in the world, that's what... Today I do the facts. But don't be standing in a booth and say, hey, let me talk to you because that's what's the Dora. Because the Dora is... Why don't we just... Council has said there is more budget available. We just need to ask for it and say what we are hoping to do, not just we're out of money to get us home. The Dora is part of the Dora service. Yeah, maybe. Well, the objectives or the additions. Let's not go over from zero to 11. Let's not go from talking about seven minutes along. You know, at least we're going to go to 11. And if that's all right. Yeah. Like, so, we were discussing that last year because that was right around the time of the budget on the South, so we thought, excuse me, he very much wants to see us return. He wouldn't even go so far and he'd not charge us the $530 if we didn't have budget for the Dora. Self is... Okay. I mean, like, at self, which I think having something like the multi-group image on the laptop is good because we have a lot of people that they already know. I like me. I like Cinnamon. I like KDE. And if you try to shove the Dora workstation at me, I'm just going to go away. Yeah. Because I don't want to know. I like, personally, I like to know. There are people who are very violently in favor of their preferred their preferred desktop. And if we don't give it to them, I know at self last year, sorry, not last year, this year, we were discussing with Jeremy, with just a guy that was the thing that we didn't know what was going to happen next year because we're kind of objective overchangers and stuff. And he said basically he doesn't care about the budget if we don't even want to buy the normal $500 sponsorship, he will give us one anyway. He just wants us to be there. I was at least there to see what Bruce got. We've traditionally done the wrong sponsorship. It's important to still maintain some sort of present at least some of what you do to do our service other than just have to do our work. And he was telling me if you want a t-shirt for something, you have to go create a festival and get the badge for that event. To trade off you running, are you here to sign? Because I believe the U.S.D. people are possibly messing things around. The North America is not old. I don't think so. Maybe we should say non-alcoholic red ridge openers because we do not want to promote drinking. But it probably won't be. What, the bottle opener one? Last year I think there were at least two or three boots giving away bottle opener flashbacks. That was in there even.