 Really scheduled select board meeting for Monday to order with us tonight on my left is flow Smith to my car left is Joe Stow My right is Carl Parton Is Dave going to be with us or? Okay, that he was okay, and With us also is Vince Connie town administrator and Diane Isabel town treasurer Additions or changes to the agenda there in a public comment, okay, the fire department budget presentation Shall I move I believe in your pack So the front page is your summary of the expenses and income some of the The bigger items on there going to page three Under benefits we we are currently running a Weekend duty coverage full Saturday and Sunday. We have members in the department Working for hours doing administrative building in truck maintenance As well as training what that doesn't do is necessarily cover our week after a weekday coverage the town of Berlin it is growing immensely and putting members there someone to at least do administrative work and be available for calls. I think the Department not so much the department of the town would greatly benefit That right there that line item is zeroed out that that is to start the conversation and Below that under communications Dispatch dispatches What we pay for? For the communication to go out on calls That that itself went from over 52,000 up to 54,000 that is a 4% increase We have no control over that Below that it says capital improvement. I will probably change this up This is not going to be something that's going to be Going to print for the town report because I do believe after the other night at our meeting Capital improvement under the communications is not necessarily all that clear if you remember a couple I'm going to say maybe a month or so back you had Deputy chief Joe Alzworth show up and gave a presentation and as Basically as a communication throughout Central Vermont, which is the capital West they are looking to They're making improvements right now through a grant, but they are Looking in the next 20 years to have X amount of money set aside to Do those upgrades to replace the equipment that they're currently With the grant So that's six grand that's 6208 that's something we have no control over That's all based off the grand list And every town is paying their share based off the grand list that's nearly nine percent of that that line and Probably moving back to the last page You're going to see Gear purchases, so that's going up $4,000 I'm going to tell you a set of gear for a new member is roughly $3,000 28 and change So that gives us basically one set plus some extras Let's just say gloves boots things that are actually wearing out with the members that we currently have Our membership has increased and the need for equipment To supply these members is is greatly needed Moving down to the equipment One of the the second line down from in the equipment so equipment purchases We're looking to increase that $5,500 we are looking to Repurpose our current pickup truck To be more of a quick response to some of these Right less The lesser of the motor vehicle accidents, you know Where you have some traffic control needed some debris or fluids that type of thing You know possible the Some traffic control but no need for really the heavy equipment When you get into the heavy rescue not everybody's going to be driving that truck So this is actually going to open up a new pool of drivers to Respond to some of these Some of those types of calls Now going down to the loan line item you can see that we yeah We have We have received the new tower to us. It's a 22 year old Vehicle which is replacing a 45 year old Okay Maybe not necessarily ideal in some cases, but in our case, I think this is a good fit right now I'll tell you better within a year of having it on the road We're looking to decrease the fleet so the old tower has been the old tower has been So that's going to go down the road We have one engine that is spoken for and we have a third one, which is also spoken for So we're actually getting rid of three vehicles with the purchase of this one And I'm not necessarily Ready to do much with the maintenance line item until after maybe a year Years used and see whether that's going to go. I foresee that going down I think I skipped over and I apologize under the utilities And that would have been H3 So we did do an upgrade with our telephones and so you're going to see an increase with the internet And the telephone what the phone line item has gone down some I'm waiting to see where that all kind of levels itself off I see those the internet and the phone will be changing in the next year and Electricity I didn't necessarily touch it, but we just replaced all the fluorescent bulbs within the building LED so I I see the electricity usage going down some And and I know what everybody's gonna know. They've been telling me. I'm not ready to believe it until I see it What type of phone system do you have that costs 5,800 a year? Was that just a regular landline? No, we have it's all it's internet-based. So we just you know, you're going through Verizon some of that. We also have Call it a hotspot which is in our rescue so we can utilize that also The phones are also our emergency management Going this route does not tie Mercy management to the station. They could actually take their phones with them Let's just say they They're going to the school, you know Vacuation people going to the school. They could take their phones And plug it in anywhere. They have internet They could bring it here to the office. They could actually be working doing their duties at their home If they had internet there as well For that Joe, they need internet. It's just wireless They can do it wireless. In fact probably half our phones right now are wireless at the station So are they voice over internet or are they cell phones their voice over? So the capital replacement line item was increased from 30,000 40,000 I can tell you that that's not not enough for replacing new trucks That's hardly enough to you know, keep used trucks in service You know in 10 years you're gonna have $400,000 Brand-new engines and it'll be costing you anywhere between 6,000 So that That amount is not for necessarily replacing to new new apparatus and your gear purchase What's the life expectancy of uniform Uniform of the gear here here ten years of not damaged So what is what is damaged include? Depends on how How long and how intense maybe if you were in a building fire if you are utilizing it during hazmat? Spill which I would suggest not You know, they they probably go in easy six years six to seven And and some of the ones that are likely is they'll go ten years They'll go plus we have stuff that result out there. That's greater than ten years old We'll give them to new people for Training and as long as they're not interior You know, they can still utilize that But on your you're you're saying weekday coverage how much how many How many people on a weekday you said it was two on the weekend We have two on the weekend. We have no one covering In-house during the weekday So we're relying on people Responding from their homes responding from their work And that's why that that right there is it's zeroed out it's for the start of Conversation, you know, how many how many people you would you anticipate would be there during the weekdays? Two three would be I Two would be sufficient. How's that stipend paid on weekends now? Is it a daily stipend for being there or is it an hourly stipend? It's based off an hourly stipend You know, we started out paying it out quarterly and move towards monthly We're still working some of the bugs out of it There have been times that I'm not gonna say it was Hard to find coverage But with everybody's life and holidays and birthdays or vacations or whatnot Just because you're assigned that weekend doesn't necessarily mean you're Available so we have to find coverage and that that's there. It's on them to find coverage I have four possibilities. I have an officer a Crew leader and two firefighters. I don't put them all in inside in the house at the same time But it's on them if they want to but only two of them are getting paid the other two are Building points if you want to call it so the stipend Just above that weekend duty coverage versus stipend so for every two hours of volunteering and That could be Working in the station. It could be trainings. It could be Building maintenance truck maintenance, whatever that might be Meetings for every two hours. They volunteer to get a point So at the end of the year you look at everybody's points and then a value is assigned to that So if you have ten people in hundred points It's X if you have 30 people with you know a thousand points. It's Y So it's forever changing I've seen that to have a value of somewhere around a dollar not even a point So that's like 60 cents and a quarter if you were to break it down and look at it like that It's not meant for anyone to Have a living at what it is is it's giving them a little something for the efforts of so the $19,000 Loan payment for used T1 Does that come out of the capital Replacement budget. I mean we have money every year 40,000 or 30,000 every year going to Capital capital fund. Yeah, so that was purchased after the budget was approved. So that The monthly monthly payments that are just currently coming out of our capital replacement This budget would then put that $19,000 part of that budget And so then what the capital replacement is then Just that I see the insurance went down We're expecting to be less by 2600 Yeah, so we have had that on the higher side and we're just we're bringing it down Then just below that retirement has dropped by 3000 and again if you look at what we spent in 2022 You're you have a number of members who are receiving their retirement and You have a number of members coming in and the ones coming in are paying into it But not necessarily reaping the wards for roughly, let's say two years before they So Yeah, we we have cut that down. I see that that's one of those funds depending on the year And how many members you have you're going to see a fluctuation One of the things we haven't talked about is the accounting and I wanted to ask about that because the FY 22 actuals was 13394 and FY 23 and 24 budget was 18,000 And I know we've had discussions about how the town could assist and I'm wondering how that could offset your expenditure increase if there was something that could be done there as a cost-cutting measure Could assist with staff here We've talked about it Now at least this is the second board. I think if not the third board. I think I've talked about It was discussed that Before we had assistant treasurer. It wouldn't really be And since we've got the assistant treasurer, I brought it up once, you know once again It hasn't been shot down, but it hasn't not necessarily been pursued And I think it's you know, maybe more on the lives of the town and not at this point Something to consider You know based on workload and staffing That would be more in line with discussing events and buy-in Do we have the numerous program for fire for fire service But it is available. I don't know. I think I'll have to call an ass. I've not done that I'll ask for that In terms of the overall expenditure increase of the 13.37 for a 0.24 Where do you think you could shave if you needed to shave to get that down less than? Quite so 13.37 If you had to shave somewhere where would you lean toward? This is kind of tough because of those increases that we're talking about that. We don't have control over You know, you did we didn't necessarily talk about the fuel line item or the heating I was actually gonna ask about that, you know those went up as well In fact, I think we're you know, we're gonna go well beyond what we we budgeted for For 2000 for the 2000 there's 23 You know, and it's hard to forecast what the cost of fuel is gonna be for I like seeing that it's starting to come down, but there's no way to gauge it's going to continue that way for sure, you know I couldn't honestly say that I could cut much of anything The three vehicles that you said that you could get rid of would you spell them? They are being sold They are being sold. One is one is sold. We are partnering with another Okay And the third one has not yet gone down to the auction block. Let's say I'm waiting another Let's just say give it another couple months to make sure there isn't any more gremlins and you know The truck that we're gonna rely on And that will put out for them after that we won't have anything older than a 2001 Any other questions for Joe Places The training That's about double. Is that because of bringing on additional you're bringing on additional people You know, we have Quite a large now fact squad, which is it supplements Berry Towns EMS There's a lot of times that you have Berry Town EMS, you know, they do have a Contract of the town to provide a service nothing saying that they will be housed here So that responding ambulance may be coming from despairing Okay, so we have I'm gonna say and I know the numbers gonna be wrong somewhere around seven to eight that are currently running the med calls and We have just brought on another three EMT's Any more questions? No, thank you very much Joe. Thank you Joe. Thank you Corridor Again, it's almost identical to last year's corridor agreement the simple changes that were made Well, we added the Northfield Club To sign off on it as well since they come in from the other side from the Northfield side and do the grooming Over the Darling Hill So you see Northfield and the Berry Club on there now for signature and we changed some of the language in there as well to Show that it's the agreement is really with The snow clubs and not vast overall we changed the vast to the the Berry Thunder chickens and the Northfield Club Language and that's pretty much the the only changes that were made from last year's agreement and we do have Phil from the Conservation Commission who's been part of the development obviously of this and the agreement if there's any specific questions you might have for him on that but There's nothing really different than from last year Any concerns Phil? No, I think it went very well last year Pretty good line of communication with Steve Crow over in Northfield and then with Dave Rulo They've been very responsive I noticed we had a little logging Demonstration for tech students up on Darling Hill A couple weeks back as logs were left in the trail before I could say boo vast members had removed the Logs to the side of the trail Even though they're not grooming at this point because there's nothing on the mountain at all the room, but I Think it's going very well I must say that the trails being used quite readily even without the snow I was up there two days ago when there were Seven cars parked the only thing we have to work out with them is figuring out the gate and how we're gonna work Is the trails muddy up there? Not as bad as you'd think I was surprised I think we've had a fair amount of wind to help dry things out up there and No, I Didn't even wear cleats the other day on my boots. I just walked in my hiking boots with some poles. It was fine Any other questions or comments on this? No, again, that's just another document that won't be signed by the board And then we'll get it out to the clubs to get them to Have a motion to approve make a motion to approve the Vast corridor management agreement between the town of Berlin with underchecks incorporated in our field snowmobiles Any other discussion All those in favor? Motion carries. I appreciate that. Thank you very much. Yeah, you're welcome Okay, Diane under $5 tax forgiveness. Yes Haven't done it for over six months now And I've got 25 that total $16 and 45 cents a lot of them are like a penny So somebody just you know, just right to check the wrong amount some of them transpositions, but like I say it's 16 1645 To approve the under $5 tax forgiveness Total of $16 and 45 cents for all of them I'll second Can you further discuss you? then cruising All those in favor? Motion carries I'd like to just jump in since Rachel is coming. She said she'd be a few minutes late I just want to skip on to the RFP. Yeah. Well, she's got that as well push good Yeah, we'll skip her two items and we can and then come back to them when she arrives okay, so Dodge firearms would be good Well pretty early on that yeah, I guess not Okay dodge firearm road discussion or decision So in your package, you'll see a summary of events that I put together from since I came on board With the discussions and the emotions that were made And what was approved and what wasn't any discussions that occurred the minutes the minutes are in the package Behind that if you want to read exactly how it came through in the minutes as well So that kind of brings us to where we are today There's a letter in there that we received from them as well requesting some some action and decisions to move it forward since the last visit And their position on that basically as well and then follow following that is a kind of a summary of My thoughts the remote conversation tonight on options on how we could possibly move it forward With them as well, so So I take it that there's been no changes in the road itself Between our visit and now that's correct The other thing that's worth pointing out Through the discussions and looking through the history when this But I think I think there's still some confusion around it as well The original agreement was to take over the Dodge farm road which ended at the cul-de-sac, which is no longer there from there up That's water works way And you'll see that in my summary noted in my summary that should the board elect to move forward with this That's one of the conditions it ends where the cul-de-sac was because that's water works way and shouldn't Be a part of the takeover We should maintain the current agreement that we have for the right of way through there But not part of this acceptance of that role. That's a whole additional section that was never Really put on the table It's a different role So the cul-de-sac is That is the that was where Dodge farm road ended and water works way came off the backside of that cul-de-sac Started there and goes out through but the cul-de-sac has a move It's still where it was a retract well the cul-de-sac no longer exists They took the center out of it now that I was just one big open wide section of road So that's that's again, that's something that's and then I thought the mr. Sierra was gonna be with us tonight He's not here to speak for them, so You know that's one of the first paragraphs there that I mentioned that as part of what needs to be agreed with them It ends there and doesn't continue up past those other two driveways, which we were looking at on the walkthrough That's all water works way We could wait to discuss it because it was on the agenda for 725 just in case they're waiting to come on closer to Yeah, I'm happy to talk you through it, and then we can come back to that Yes, that sounds wonderful Good use of the time so the you know some of the other things that I You know looking at it, you know there was again if you look through the minutes, there was the talk about paving it And then it was agreed emotion was made and passed to just pave Up to 50 feet. I think they actually went 70 feet from the existing road in That's so that You know that the previous board made that motion and accepted that that portion of it without paving the whole thing Then there were some other other things that came up You know there was a motion made Back in January as long as was brought to town standards and such The letter that we received mr. Sierra that they're a little bit confused that they the letter should be the letters in the package as Well, they submitted the engineering report that chose, you know where they tested it And it's it meets the requirements of the town standards that's documented in our in our process There are still a couple of issues there That Tim has still brought up and one of them is the crown in the road is lacking on that lower portion of the road from where the pavement stops up to Where the cul-de-sac was right there is the the berm on the side of the road That's still keeping water from flowing off the road That's there, and I think there's one one culvert that Is plugged basically here partially buried up or is buried on one end? That's there Again, they're not here to speak to that so I don't know what their thoughts are on that But my proposal at this point it would be you know, this is it's been going on for a while we still have the Procedure to accept the roads Gives us 12 months before we officially accept it to take it over and Annotate any major issues that we may have with that that they're still responsible for Before we officially take the road over as well, you know my thoughts are there's there's question about the amount of material on the top of the road as well So I'm saying what's if we if we accept the road in this condition. We've got 12 months And if we started say March 1st, for example, we'll get this year's one season in and that We'll have a chance to grade the road and see if we can put a crown in it or if materials need it This is again where we need to Negotiate with them to get them to accept the terms and then we can talk about if if the town puts the material on the road Do they pay for the town cost do we do we split it with them? Whatever the board decides at that point We can do that We take the berm off when we're grading That's you know that can be done Those are those are the three major things and there's the culverts left We can talk about the culvert with them as well To see how they want to handle that those were the three or four big things if you if you look at ending at the cul-de-sac To the cul-de-sac was that needs to be agreed to That kind of that's kind of a summary try I think the last road the town took over was up on Vine Street and that road was low compared to the for the compared to the ditches and And That community just they had the material brought in and paid for it themselves. I'm low as a tenant out Having They paid for the for the additional material and just don't want to take and start pressing it here. Yeah, no exactly that's what we need to Proposed to them Rachel is with us Discussion approval and our people record digitization You can let me know how you feel about this So the last time we met we did talk about whether the town had approved to move Town meeting on to the Saturday before and I did find a preview note previous notes before COVID on that It was discussed in every department town meeting would be Saturdays going forward So that is obviously how it will have to be this year The question would be are you all content with that or does anybody want to move it back again seeing that it Didn't appear to make much of a difference I'm fine with it being Saturday myself. Yeah Suggestion well, I mean The idea was to change it to Saturday in hopes of a larger audience Yeah, I don't Well, I mean it it was interrupted. I would I would think probably just keep it as it is for This year and probably you can see if you can discuss it after the town meeting So the new board is going to see it. Oh, I assume that you'll all want to take time to read through the morning as it is I will note that there's a few changes highlighted in yellow that's still We're waiting to finalize Obviously the total number of appropriations that are still coming in so that could change And the budget the budget And the fire department's budget as well. Yeah, we we have that number now for the fire department. You got that coming Perfect I will tell you the numbers highlighted here in yellow were previous year's Numbers just because I had to have a place for there. I'm used to it And the last page you'll see the list Of appropriations that have come in That's our Hopefully you have it actually maybe I didn't give it to you. Yeah And then it's itemized on the very very back of the packet as well So far nothing is an increase in requests at all level Are there any new ones this year? Not yet. No, okay Or any new ones will have to have a petition. Yeah, they still have a little time left Rachel, when does the windows when does that go up to print? As soon as possible The printer is aware of the quick turnaround So appropriations have requests have to be in by the 19th So then hopefully during that following week we could get out to print But the nice composite to the nice job putting it on the paper for us And it's always nice to hear those level funding so far Right These are the ones that have come in so far. Okay, you've gotten the hold of Paul Gilles, yeah Make sure he's going to be with us. No, I have not And I well, I actually had a little concern about What happens if you decide to doesn't want to do it what happens He's elected for this year. Yeah Up till the town meeting And then Then once the first article should be election of a moderator And uh Do that vote and then move on however If Paul doesn't want to take and do it next year, hopefully he'll let you know Put it out there I can't believe you wouldn't do that. He's always done such a fabulous job And he always offers up for people to volunteer and that he's willing to train and assist And that's I think it's very kind I make a motion to approve the warning and notice as presented to us this evening Via rachel, you know, acknowledging that there will be additions as they come forward and that the deadline is january 19th for additional information So We have the discussion All those in favor motion carries and The rfp for the record Yes, so I did not turn to you all a bunch of copies because it's a very document, so if you'd like to have time to read it over um, I certainly can get your copies to do that so Vim's family dropped it up this Based on our attorney's advice And we've got an issue date. Hopefully february 1st Giving time for some site visits and any questions I'd like to have all questions answered and everything clarified by the end of february and then potentially award a contract march 1st Um with the work beginning any time between march and august is my hope Um, so in this rp as we discussed was the requirement that the documents stay on the premises Because we do know we at least have somebody able to scan the documents from the parking lot, so That is included in here as well In how many years are you going back? We're going to go back 40 years for me and michelle just what um the law firms have to look back for And then after that we'll do the rest ourselves as You said 40 years 40 40. Okay. That's what I thought They wouldn't be happy with four Yeah And then you should you put out the rfp yet or I have sent the rfp to um the three companies that we had Previously talked about Digitization, but so caught in profile and records course. I have not sent it to anyone else or advertise it elsewhere How many companies do this work? So as far as providing a system for us to use We've got one more modern company There are a couple in my opinion outdated companies that we could also Put this out to my guess is they won't be able to come and scan documents on site and The program that they would have available is will be dated They explain things for options Looking forward to getting something exciting it's exciting for us too. Yeah Okay, so I'm trying to think You ask for rfp's from the three companies that They're really open Okay, well, thank you very much then Thank you very much. Thank you Rachel Let's see here Beaver baffle while He hasn't joined us so I don't the I don't see him online I'll uh, I'll contact him after we schedule I don't know. There's a lot of questions around the maintenance and update and On such that Okay, approval of licenses permits vouchers applications I make the motion to approve payroll warrant 23-14 for payroll from december 18th to december 31st of this year Paid on january 4th 2023 in the amount of 60,828 dollars Also payable warrant 23g 12 With the checks 22567 to 22616 for payables in the amount of 121,884 dollars and 54 cents And december reconcile bank statements for the general fund and sewer water checking accounts Any further discussion? All those in favor All right motion carries Has everybody seen the certificate of highway mileage? pass that around There's no changes in it so It's the same as same mileage as last year I said that document has to be filed in the state every year Everyone's had a chance to look at it. I'll make the motion to approve the certificate of highway mileage as presented to us this evening Please, uh, please. I'll sign that before you leave Any further discussion? All those in favor Motion carries Approval december 19th 2022 minutes I make a motion to approve the minutes as presented with some changes to names and some Data within and I made notations for bits and he's going to take care of that Second Okay, all those in favor All right I'm going to abstain because I have my christmas flute That day Glad to feel that Peppermint Curie All those in favor Aye Motion carries Okay Roundtable flow Go So the fire department still has a seat available on the board of directors and it is open for Town residents this is a town resident who is not Currently a corporate member It gives them a voice at the table and that individual would be appointed by the select board So anyone who is interested in Sitting on the board of directors for the fire department You could reach out to vince ponte or any one of the select board members And Throw your name into the ring Much appreciated girl kind of request from a non-citizen traveler about range of road and maybe considering Mining that near the uh the Construction plant there a concrete plant and the And the planet and the tire store. There's uh, it's it's about four lanes wide Let me go There and the s curves they go right there's s curve. There's no line So you're not really sure which lane you're in was his assertion and it he felt it was dangerous there Even uh, even uh, you know a white line to know where the parking lot started for the uh For the mill and something we could discuss in the future Dane is there there is a line item for for uh, pavement marking in the yes budget It's all one. Yeah, it's all one paving marking Now the the loin marking part of that Is that's not separate from the paving in other words you repave something then you you stripe it and then it's All part of the same. Yeah, it's all gonna go in that same account Because you still have all the other tire roads in town that Granger fissure Let me take your pick A lot of them are marked by the state paint turnpike Fisher road across town Scott hill and the airport road barrel marked through the state I think they pretty much stick with L&D L&D To date this year How many roads that are black top that aren't the Under the state American program Foxbrook Junction road but that's Those are the two that have center lines on them the rest of them like Um after firm woodridge trial hill The small ones don't have no markings on them. They're just more or less longer aprons for dirt roads So we have a number of paved roads with No center line. That's on a schedule line The other question is tim should we I don't know the exact law or rule of thumb in that aspect you know like industrial lane Has no markings on it and that's that hasn't been paved even quite some time Usually it's And I could be talking about a contact But I believe it's the width in the road in most times of what requires them to be marked But I'm not sure on that but I know Like where he's talking about my pike I wouldn't imagine that line the last very long the trucks will have that line scuffed off in no time Yeah, the only the only way to To get a line the last like that they have to go in and mill it out So it's below the travel portion of the road And then paint them in That view otherwise I'll just scuff them off because all the tractor trailer trucks just They go they cut those less corners off but Carol to make the hill straight and then yeah go up through In your opinion would that be something the state would be involved with based on the way it would need to be done to be held They would be probably honest to hire lb or somebody to Mark the center of that road if need be I'm trying to remember And don't believe it was marked prior to being paved I'm trying to remember because half it was done before I got here the other half was done after And I don't remember it being Having a center line on because once you get past pike it's only you know, I mean four foot wide And most of its well Bowl carols 24 foot wide And that after industrial length on 24 foot wide It's a little it's wider down through because carol has an apron that they drive their trucks up the side of the road pike has their apron Because it's where they they have their yard paved where they stock the material And most of the time the trucks are pulling over Out of the way of traffic when they're coming up to the top the hill pulled in so there's not They're out of the way I wonder carol and pike would get involved as far as safety issue and keeping just the average traveler Out of their door yard, you know driving in there in their parking lot rather than the actual road if they Be interested in helping at least put the white line delineating their Their property really We can just do it but it's going to get you know, like I said the trucks will scuffle the white lines off with no time I just wonder if we should have anything for a separate paving of marking budget I'm alive for that I believe it's always been just all in the same Really cracks you know that's all So we don't know that if there's a requirement or not Right not that I actually know Okay, but that doesn't mean that's it. There's not one So dense I'm making notes We can look into it and we can also look into You know giving a price on having a mill the lines out I don't think that's gonna make a large difference. I don't either I think some of the you're going in there 100,000 pounds Some of those paved roads that don't have a lot of truck traffic, you know, you put lights on them They might go a couple of years maybe You know not up there on ranger road with the trucks that would be gone But I think if we didn't if we're required to have them and we're not doing it something happens And it brought up If the lines were worn off we made the attempt and we put the line on it So let's let's think about this. We'll we'll take a look at the specs and see what they are. Yeah, we'll also this spring will request price we'll talk to pike and Carol as well see if they're interested to Participate with us and that to do some test strips in front of carols and bikes on the side of the road As he says before lines Yeah, the white lines on the side maybe are a solid yellow center line if it's possible maybe in that area Just to give it a little bit of definition and when we'll see how long it lasts Then we can make a decision You know if it lasts through the summer and we probably don't want to be doing that every year if at last couple of years Or where's the first year then maybe next year we look at it again to do the rest of the road I don't know. I just just thought It's not going to take lnd very long to mobilize to do that. Exactly. I mean Of course, the whole trick is how much they charge per Mile or how they put it right just since they use Yeah Okay, anything else Carol no seven o'clock and the beaver baffle guy isn't here. No I'll I'll reach out to him and uh It's not like we're gonna be installing it in a month or so anyway, so we've got time I was wondering if perhaps we could uh, ask him if we chose a different Less expensive route That still had uh animal protection and in its in its heart of uh Ketrin relocate if if they'd be willing to contribute to that scenario Yeah, but I'd be afraid the next cheapest way is a dollar piece I'm sure they wouldn't contribute to that so Yeah, maybe they did really help to try to relocate I don't know Beavers travel back. I think they have a tendency to they they usually only leave when there's Lockup or lack of food But I'm just trying to think how far away you'd have to locate the New trouble is is you're just making you're giving somebody else your problem. Yeah, and then I'm not sold on the beaver baffles Yeah, they're a quick easy fix, but they're expensive and they only last for a certain bit of time I have not seen one and we've had the discussion The last week between all of us That we really haven't seen any of them no matter how fancy or how great they are Make the longevity of three years before you're over there with a piece of machinery rip them out and take them to the dump because They've plugged them Broken them and I brought the fact up to him There's two sides to that culvert I've seen it before They will find a way to go from the other way They will just go across the road and come in from the bottom and start plugging the bottom Their whole objective is to just stop the waterfall When it's still flowing from one direction to the other They'll come from downstream to where they want to start So If on one side you've got to almost do the exact same to the other side because they'll just go around and come in from the bottom of the pipe Okay, so before we adjourn What's the board's pleasure on Um Dive crime world I'm assuming that they haven't come into the they've no they haven't they haven't joined so I can reschedule them as well And they haven't done any upgrades that we discussed not since the last walk through I think it would be best to reschedule them and then we could go over Their side of it and what we know is historical and our recommendation and what we've discussed tonight But to give them an opportunity to Express their views as well And then we could make their final decision Motion to table I make the motion to table in the discussion regarding the dodge fire room Second to win To the next meeting next regularly scheduled meeting On the first meeting in February Okay, still move the second there Joe. I'm good with that. Yeah Any other discussion all those in favor All right those opposed Motion carries Do we want to schedule additional budget meeting? I think the bid's already set right now didn't use one for Monday. Do we need any additional other than Monday in your We'll know Monday. I scheduled it for two hours and all right, hopefully we can hammer it out Then if not, then we'll decide on Monday Tuesday Wednesday if we need to Because Monday's gonna be a tough one for me We got to discuss that. Yeah, that's true. Yeah Sorry go ahead. Go ahead. I just want to throw out in your package There's a couple of things for information for you regarding the cla Um, it's value and there's also the In the back of the cla there's all the towns and their results as well. So you have something to compare to There's also a letter from The central mont regional planning commission that wants to know if the board is interested in How did they word that? Transit oriented development They they have there's some grand money available as well. Uh, do we want to participate with, uh, Northwest vermont, it's uh, again, it's all well described in your letter in your package You can just take a look at it and let me know I have to respond to them with a letter of interest if the board is interested by January 20th That was it for me Short for me or in general for the meeting I can pretty much promise you the next one on monday won't be It makes the motion to adjourn tonight's regularly scheduled what for meeting Here a second second All those in favor We're adjourned