 Keep in mind, Aqee, we are talking about this discussion all this time. What I was talking about is a man staying in these countries. The story changes when it's a mother and kids. Different game, different ball game. What do you mean? How does it change? When you raise children in that mist now, it gets worse. With all those evidences, we're talking about Sahaba Jadid. But if there's one person, the Prophet is giving him pleasure. He's come to me. Now the story changes. When you have left your Muslim country and you ran to the lands of the non-Muslims and you brought your children here and you raised your children in this land and you given your children to them, Anthony and Samantha are nurturing your daughter, Zahra, Amina, Aisha. They're nurturing your children for you. Allah, you're going to be questioned on the Day of Judgment because Allah says in the Qur'an, Allah says, those of you who believe, protect yourselves and your families from the Hellfire by taking your children to them. You are giving your children to who? To the enemies who are going to destroy your child's mind and think him. Why are the Muslim community staying in these countries for? Why do they remain here? The reason for it is Dara'him and Dirham. Not necessary. There's another reason for it. And you brought many Ahadith, many Ayat to support your argument. I want to bring one on my own. And this Hadith is found in the Sahih of Imam Muslim. The Prophet, peace be upon him, said, whoever sees an evil, let him change it with his hand. And if not, then let him change it with his tongue. And if not, then let him hate it in his heart and that is the weakest of iman. The Prophet said, actually linked the weakest of iman to just hating in his heart. But leaving that and letting the evil take place and actually running away from it and leaving it is even less than even just being there and hating it with your heart. How are you going to say now that the people who are staying here are only doing it for the sake of money? Why can't you make excuses and say, actually they want to change the country because we agree that not everybody will be able to make hijrah. There's always going to be people who fall into that verse who are unable to. Why can't we stay in the West, make it a better place, get politically and actively involved, change the society so we're making it better for those Muslims who have to remain there because they have no choice? I unequivocally disagree with that as well. The reason is because statistics shows the opposite that they're working more on you than you're working on them. They are changing you than you're changing them. They're guiding you to misguidance, then you're guiding them to guidance. A research was done by Coventry University on the 25th of October, 2019. A research was done. This research showed that there are approximately 4,500 Muslim heritage children in care in Britain. It's the UK, not any other country. We can, if I broadened my research and I looked at Europe, for example, or I looked at America, the statistics would be very high. But Britain, there are 4,500 Muslim heritage children in care in Britain. These children are of Muslim. Keep in mind, these are Muslim children. They've been taken from their families and their reason for this is that the child has gone through abuse and neglect, family breakdown, a parent or child's illness or disability and lack of family support. And then they say the vast majority are removed by social services or account of harm or profound risk of harm. This child, they're saying, this child has been taken from his parents maybe because she was forcing him to pray Salah at Fajr time. Maybe because she was abusing him, rightly taken away from the mother, maybe. If the mother was abusing the child in Islam, for those that are Islamic, let's say she was abusing and she was not doing a good job, in Islam, in a Muslim country, who would most likely take care of that child? Another Muslim person. So it's a win-win situation. You're an abusive individual. Listen to this, this is the most shocking part. The child is taken from the social services, take the child from that parent because of their belief, of course. But by the way, the act of harm and profound risk of harm is nothing compared to what they describe it as. How we Muslims understand it. Now, according to government figures, there are 4,560. So it's more than the research by a college university. Pay attention to this. So since the removal of ethnicity from children and family act 2014 was passed, social workers are no longer required by law to match religion and ethnicity when finding families for children. In other words, this child who's Ahmed, he can be taken care of, an LGBT family. You've gone to them. You've gone to such a small sample site. You have 4,500 kids. I actually know right now a girl called Safiya. She's been taken care of two men. It's not a case. Again, again, again, look at what we're talking about here. Look, we're talking about a ruling for everybody in the UK, all the Muslims in the UK, for example, even wider than that. And we've taken a sample site of 4,500 people who from them, some of them were taken away from their parents and from them, some of them went into a non-Muslim household. Like you're talking about really small sample sites and using that to say everyone's got to leave the country. No, I'm not saying nothing. By the way, the honor of one Muslim is great to us. Don't dismiss one child. One Muslim child who's taken by a non-Muslim if he hurts our hearts. Today, are you telling me right now, if you saw online a mother crying, I can, well, I can show you extensive videos. Cases I've seen, I've seen mothers come into the mischief to break down because she must have told of one child and all her other remaining children were taken. Of course it would hurt, but I don't base rulings on emotion. I'm not gonna then say everybody has to leave the country now I'm emotional, I'm feeling like, oh wow, that really hurts. No, I'm not going to tell everyone to leave the country. No, I'm not necessarily a one peculiar situation that has happened, but it gives you the understanding that you don't even own your own children. You can't, you tell B of your children the way you see it fit. This is what I'm coming to. Look what the professor, I said, let's be straight and frank with one another. Our messenger said, you said implementing Islam, right? Implementing Islam. There's a Hadith Abu Dawud narrated. The professor, he said, command your children the Salah when they are seven years of age and discipline them when they are at the age of 10. Let me be even more frank with you. The word doesn't say discipline. Wadribu means be them. Just the other day without no names mentioned, without no names mentioned, a family was about to lose their child. I don't want to tell you, someone very reliable to me told me a family member was about to lose their child. And the social services had this Hadith written on their, they had this written on the case study of this whole situation. You know what happened? The child just went to school. He said to the other child, something about my father will hit me if I do this. The teacher called the social services. They got involved. They were ready to go home and take the entire children from her. Now, what I mean is that I am not in any way shape or form, saying children can be beaten and destroyed and know that that's not what I'm saying. All I'm trying to say to you is that if a parent is not fit to take care of her child, the 2014 act passed by the government states that you no longer, you no longer have the rights to choose where that child goes and who looks care. The whole community can come together and say we want the social services to have their rights to say, we don't want to give it to a Muslim family. Depending on how the social services see fit, they have the, this is a child, your wife has been pregnant for nine months. She's given birth, his name's Abdullah and he's been raised by a non-Muslim. The point I'm trying to say to you, your own child you can't control. The prophet told us in a hadith, Al-Imam Muslim narrated, he said, If the children of Adam pass away, their actions are all disconnected, except three. Sadaqat-in-jaria, an ongoing Sadaqat that you give or carry on your righteous deeds for you. Or a knowledge that you have benefited others which they benefited from. You left behind beneficial knowledge for the people. Or you left behind a noble child, a righteous child that makes supplication and dua'a and invokes on Allah Ta'ala for you. I'm saying these children who were nurtured in this environment, Islamic history, pay attention to this, we've never seen anyone who changed Islamic history, who was nurtured by the non-Muslims or who grew up in the midst of the non-Muslims. We've never seen that. Rather, the qa'idah is manshabba ala shay'in-shabba ali. Anyone who grew up upon something most likely turns out to be that thing. Prophet Sallallahu alayhi wassalam, the Prophet Sallallahu alayhi wassalam, his parents were non-Muslims. He changed the whole entire dunya when he came from a family of non-Muslims. Ibrahim alayhi salam, his father. We can go on and on. The companions, many of them came from non-Muslim households. How can you say that statement? Again, the Prophet Sallallahu alayhi wassalam was a total exception of the situation because he's guided by Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala and he was chosen by Allah Ta'ala. And by the way, he wasn't nurtured by his mother or father. None of them nurtured him. They both died when the Prophet was young. His father died when he was in his mother's womb and his mother died when he was only six years of age. So the Prophet alayhi salam, keep it in mind that the world that we're talking about today, again, this is another point that you just reminded me, JazakAllah alayhi wa ta'ala, which is the West, it's not a conflict or a clash of just religion. It's not. It's also a clash of morality. I mean, Quraish, there were things that they held on to. Even though the Mushriki and idol worshippers, they called them to other than Allah, which was a clash of religion, there were things that they held on to, which were good morals. They also had bad morals, like burying the daughters alive. I'm not dismissing that. They wanted to... The UK also have good morals. No, but UK... It's the same situation. Yeah, but this is my point. The West today have, we have an issue of morality and dignity issue against them. For example, homosexuality. It's an issue of morality. It's an issue of religion. No, put a religion aside. A Christian who's not got a religion in our eyes will say, this is despicable. It's abhorrent. No, we don't accept it. Because it's religion tells him. There are secular people who come up to you today who don't believe in religion, don't believe in God. Who will say, this act does not make sense. It's filthy to me. It's an issue of fitla, as we previously mentioned in our podcast. Now, your child is in a land. His suluq gets destroyed. His morality, his muruq is killed. And also what? His religion. His religion killed. I just want to show you how scary it is. There was a brother in the UK who had a child. His child is literally mental. So he takes his child, they inject him, they give him medicine. His father holds him down. Always the child's going to destroy things and jump around. His child is insane. So he went to the doctors to visit the doctor, sat in front of the doctor and the doctor. So the father's holding his son. Just doesn't want the time to get a needle or jump out of the window or destroy something. So he's holding him down. The doctor says, let him go. Because what do you mean? If I let him go, he's going to, he's nuts. I'm his brain, basically. I'm the one who holds him down. He goes, no, you think this is Africa? What do you think you are? He's a free man. You could choose what he wants. Yeah, I heard that I had to wear out that level of... Okay. You know. Okay. You brought some very strong language. I want to go back to my question. Let me rephrase it in a perhaps a better way. The Hadith I quoted about whoever sees an evil, let him change it with his hands, his tongue, his head, his heart. The Prophet's have never said whoever sees an evil, run away. Yeah, okay. That's my point. He said, change it. Let's stay here and change it. Let's work on this society. The overwhelming majority of Muslims, the Hadith of The overwhelming majority of Muslims, in the UK are not learned enough to even identify what is a munkar or not. You're talking about laymen. You're talking a general mass. That's what I said to you initially. A more fruitful discussion would be kind of du'at. Talabatul ilm, go to these Western countries to get da'wah. Let's talk about that then. That would be a discussion and a point to look at. Lakin ad-da'i, to take his family, his children, and to live in these countries. There's a Kitab, I just decided, Ben, if I want to encourage people to read. There's a sheikh, his name is Sheikh Mohammed Ibn Abdul-Ahli As-Subayl. He was the Khatib, and he was the Imam of the Khatib of Masjid al-Haram, and he was the member of the Islamic senior scholar, the committee of senior scholars in Saudi Arabia. And he was also the Khatib and the Imam of Masjid al-Haram. By the way, when that time, when the so-called false Mahdi was taken over the Ka'ba, he was actually the man leading the prayer who had to be taken out of the Masjid with a hijab to cover him and take him out. It was Sheikh Mohammed Ibn Abdul-Ahli As-Subayl. Sheikh Mohammed Ibn Abdul-Ahli As-Subayl has a Kitab called, Hukm-ud-Tajannus, Bijinsiyyati Dawlatin Ghayri Islamiyah. It's a very important book, I think it's worth reading. He talks about the ruling of taking citizenship from a country that is not Muslim. He breaks this issue down. And he brings it back to the first point that we were talking about, the issue of Al-Wala and Al-Baraa. We think right now, we actually think that why are they not allowing us to practice our religion the way we want? Why are they questioning our method of disciplining our children? It's because of the fact that they believe they've given your children citizenship. They're the ones who educate your children. Some, a large number of Muslims, Somali, Pakistani, whatever ethnicity they are, government gives them a handout, handout and gives them money. All of this gives them the entitlement of wanting to feel like they have rights to choose for your children what they can or can't do. So tell me that, means a person who can see the munkar and they can stop it. I'm talking about people who are saying, what's wrong with a non Muslim? Why does a non Muslim have to go to the hellfire? No, that's not everyone, that's not fair. Because I'm saying, talking about people who might see pubs in the UK, people drinking, they know alcoholism munkar, they know it's wrong. So they can't change it with their hands. They don't have the ability, but the very least they can work on something to get them to try and rectify this. Is it fair to say that there is? Is there running away? Is it fair to say? Is it fair to say? Like sometimes, you know, some things are just, well, as the poet said, well, he says, it's not befitting for the mind if the sun needs proof, the sun over there, I have to prove it to you. So it can be seen. In the UK, you and I both know the largest crime rate that's taking place right now is done by who? The Muslims. The Muslims. Yeah. I mean, I always say, I don't know about the largest, but yeah. What munkar are they gonna? Disproportionate. The largest is the Muslim community. Okay, what munkar are they going to stop? They can stop all the things like alcohol. They can't even stop their own children. I know these statements, I'm gonna say, it's gonna probably offend some people, but I had a conversation with one guy who was extremist. He was a right wing who believed Muslims are here to take over the UK. I said, you think high of us, man. I said, you really think high of us, man, to think that we want to take over the UK. We can't even take over our own households. Parents, I went to Canada and I was very emotional when I went to Canada. I, for the first time, I saw with my own two eyes. I haven't seen that in the UK, by the way. I saw in Canada kids carrying cartons of alcohol on the lift going home and their mother has reached a level where she sets in the fridge a section for him. Muslims. Muslim Somali mothers. Setting a part of the fridge and saying to them, this section is yours, put your alcohol here. And when I spoke to my mother, I said, why are you doing that? She said, I prefer that he does it here than he does it outside because someone's going to murder him. Someone's going to kill him. He's on the streets. I might as well just tell him, have it, but in your room, come out, take it. She locks the fridge for him. I said that. The point is that the communities, the Muslim communities, the way that they have become only Allah knows. Subhanahu wa ta'ala. I'll tell you something else that shocked me. The rate of abortions that are done by teens, Muslim teens, Amina, Fatima, Nafisa, all these Muslim names that you see who are going to the NHS to get abortions done and it's 17, 18, 19. I know a girl who hasn't reached, I want to say the age is so scary. She hasn't reached the age of puberty in the UK. And for the first time I ever heard, I didn't even know this existed. What they call sugar daddy. A man owns that young girl, Muslim. He owns her. Wallahi, she has not reached the age of consent. He owns her. He's a 40 year old man, married, non-Muslim, kafir, not even a Muslim. He owns her, he gives her money, every month he puts money in her account. Every month she comes over to him. This is Haditha Wallahi. And to be honest, over the years of giving da'wah, I came to the conclusion, it might be a very harsh conclusion, but I came to the conclusion now. The da'wah in the UK is, it is damage controlled. It's not stopping what's going to happen. The people, what you gain from there and what you lose, what you lose is more. Okay, you're talking about the do'at now. Let's talk about the do'at because the prophetic tradition is not to run away from the lands of the non-Muslims, but it's actually to send people into them. Like the Prophet, Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam, send Mu'ad ibn Jabal. Let me just conclude that before you move on to this one. There was a man who killed 99 people. The Prophet told us in the Haditha Imam al-Bukhari, narrated in the Haditha Abisa'id al-Khudri, Inna abdan qatala tis'at al-wan tis'ina nafsah, a man killed 99 people, thumma aradat lahut tawbah, then he wanted to repent. So he asked about fa'sala an a'lami ahli al-arzi, he asked for the most knowledgeable of people. Fadullah al-arajulid, then he was to go to that man. Fa'atahu, he came to the man and he told him, the man was a worshipper. He said, Inna qatala tis'at al-wan tis'ina nafsah, I killed 99 people. Fa'ali min tawbah, can I, would I have any repentance? I wanna repent. And the man said to him, Ba'at al-tis'at al-wan tis'ina nafsah, after 99 people you killed. You wanna repent? The man took out his sword, he made him 100. Fa'akmalabihil mi'ah, 100 people now he's killed. I don't know on this, I've never met anyone who killed 100 people. I've never met anyone who killed 100 people. This man killed 100 people. Then he asked about fa'sala, he asked an a'lami ahli al-arzi, the most knowledgeable of people. By the way, this man struggled to find somebody knowledgeable. Worship on this has been pushed towards. So then what happened, Fadullah al-arajulid, he was pointed towards a man, this man was a knowledgeable man. He said, Inna qatala tis'ina nafsah, I now killed 100. Fa'ali min tawbah, do I have repentance? He said, When your hulu bayna qawabayna tawbah, who's stopping you from repentance? You can repent if you want to. But the first thing he instructed him is what? He said, Leave this filthy land that you've been in. In al-qariya tus'aliahati, go to that land, the honorable land. Fa'bud rabbaka fiyah, worship your Lord over there. And this is not the place you can do it. The abid remit, the scholar is in this land, but he's telling him leave. You shouldn't be here. Because you leave this land. The man, he made a decision. Fa'arajah yuridu al-qariya tus'aliahati, he left to go to that blessed land. Fa'arabah lahu ajaluhu, death came to him. Fitt tariqi waal he was walking. Fa'khtasamat fihi malaikatu l-rahma wa malaikatu l-adab. This dispute now between the two angels, the angel of mercy and the angel of punishment. Then Iblis said, An'a awla bihi. Iblis said, Iblis said, he's mine, he's mine. He said, this man never disobeyed me for even a second. Every time I told him to do something, he did it. So he's mine. Fa'alit malaikatu l-rahma, the angel of mercy, he said, he's mine. Inna hu kharajah ta'iban. This man came out repenting. And then Allah, pulled the earth in favor of him. An'i, what saved that man? His hatred. Leaving that land.