 It smells like plastic because it's been carb-oiled. And the only way they can, this is a long slender variety. The only way they can keep it from shattering is by boiling. So what we're trying to do with Marty is come up with technologies which allow us to polish it and get high-quality polish without carbon. It looks off. It looks off, yeah. Here, we passed this slender, and now we are here. So this is the one that was gushing the water through? Yeah, we are here, and then come by, pass this on, and this on the last one, water is coming, and then we are in this place. Where's the bridge we crossed? Where's the bridge we crossed? This is somewhere here. How do we get from here to there? Yeah, this is the bridge. This is the bridge. This is, we can follow this. This bridge isn't... Oh yeah, that's the bridge. Okay, so last year they had 10 farmers with how many hectares? 1.3 hectares. 1.3 hectares of the... Where's the chilli? I don't know. 34. So we had... This is a selection from a local variety, so very... Just cleaned it up. Which is interesting. So they cleaned it up, and now it does about 3.5 tons per hectare, whereas one of these will do about 2.5, 2.7 tons per hectare. If you clean these up, I wondered whether you would get to 3.5 tons per hectare as well. You probably... Well, I don't know. I mean, the problem with farmers saving their own seed is they get mixtures, they get quality, lousy germination. So one of the key things actually with aromatic rice, one of the constraints is that farmers can't get decent seed. So if you're taking these indigenous varieties, cleaning them up, producing decent seed, then maybe they'll get... I'm sure you would be able at some point to take these indigenous varieties, add a few useful traits to them. Exactly. And then without changing their basic attributes, and then... Holding that package and just putting something home. Just inserting some nice genes in there that will... Dressed all kinds of whatever. Maybe a little bit early. And then your local seed companies can start to produce the seed and sell and get a market for them. To me, you're going to have to have your local seed companies sell on this stuff. But farmers have to be convinced they get a good product. But when I work in Petra, in 2004, we introduced this variety. And then two or three farmers in a nearby village, they are still cultivating their product. Okay, so now are there local seed companies here who will sell mustard or sesame seed? No. There's no seed companies at all? No. Really? In local, no. But in BADC, Bangladesh, it has a development corporation, they sell. But local, not much. But there's no small, private seed companies? Yes. Yes, there are now? Yes, there are now. Any seed companies? For vegetables? Yeah, yeah. Best of a lot of seed companies. That's what I thought. So these companies, because we're talking to the seed companies in West Bengal, which is 50 kilometers that way. Just over there. Yeah. So they say that, you know, if they would love to get into the rice seed business. Right. Because the market is so huge. Yeah. And they just, but they just need something to sell. Because farmers, they all keep, so they say farmers here say they all keep their own seed. Yeah. So it's a product that they could sell, even an inbred, and just get a little bit of a margin. They'd be happy. Yeah. And that's, I think, we've, you know, we've got to get something a little bit, well, this, this, you know, this, you know, it's to say about 3.5 tons per hectares. It's a little bit better than these. It matures about 10 days early. Yeah. And that's where the other ones would come in, because that's what we want. Yeah. See, this is what I think, but you could take, probably take these guys, do a little bit of a selection, clean them up, probably select a little bit for more earlyness. Yeah. And you could, might even, might even have a little bit. I think probably, you know, Dr. Salam, he has a beard or a beard. Oh, sure, sure. When he was in BRAC, he started that selection of, oh, yeah. Okay. Yes. Okay. But probably he could not continue because of the BRAC's policy. Yeah. What's BRAC's policy? Hybrid. Oh, hybrid. Yeah. Okay. Well, I know. I guess because I, at that time I was in, I was heading that department. Yeah. Because this is from my area, running cellar and then customer service pool. Yeah. It's from Romania. Yeah. But these are really interesting looking, you know, you see it on the shelf in a health food shop in the US. Oh, those are very good products. Yeah. Yeah. Even in the minimum that, in our local market, this price is very high. Yeah. Yeah. 70 to 80 kilo. Yeah. You know, like even for a decade. Yeah. So the problem is that, the other problem is that, as I was in that little right what the percentage which the farmer gets for these sorts of things is really smaller than they do for the high yielding varieties. Yeah. Yeah, the standard varieties. So that's why we started to look at them because we think there's more potential in these sorts of things. Yeah. For adding value. Yeah. Yeah. At the end of the day, as far as I'm concerned, it's, I mean, there's two things. One is affordable rice for everybody. But the farmer has to make a decent income. Yeah. I mean, who in the hell wants to be a poor rice farmer? Yeah. And that's going to get, that's going nowhere, man. I mean, that's no future. Yeah. So something's going to have to give. All right. Nobody raise your hands. Yeah, nobody raise their hand. What's a kid to be a rice farmer? So the whole point is, you know, we're, how do we, how do we add the value? Yeah. How do we get to farmers? Yeah. You know, it may be that we're only going to have 10% the number of farmers. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to have to suit the farmers who are either tenant farmers or very small farmers because to produce a two and a half tonne or a three tonne crop, you don't need very much inputs. Yeah. That's right. There's going to be no zero input. Yeah. On here, they just putting on two bags per hectare of urea. That's all they're doing. So what is the cost of that? You know, it's 2,000 tacker. What, in that group of farmers here, how many of them own their own land? In our place. Yeah. 80% of their own land. They own their own land. Okay. And what's the usual? 80%. No, no, 10 to the few. That's right. What is the holding size? Holding size is 0.3 hectares. 0.3 hectares. I was going to say a poorer hectare. Yeah. You're not going to get rich off that. Not recently. You're not even going to get poor off that. Yeah. I think it's something like 50-some percent of rural dwellers on landways. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't mean that they don't have access to them because they're rented. Yeah. But here the land is different. Yeah. Okay, if you look at that, that's 0.3 hectares per farm family. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's, there's no future on that. There's a big percentage who only have half an acre. One bigger. So. Yeah. You have to either do something which is pretty labor saving and then just let somebody else blow the crop and harvest it and have another job somewhere else. Or they use that little bit of land to grow something really high. Really valuable. Yeah. Like vegetables or something. Yeah. Yeah. Opium. Opium. You know what I mean. Yeah. Recreation. Something that will give you a good... Yeah. Okay. Without the commensurate risk. Yeah. One and a half. Now they've got 70 hectares. Okay. So these are... Now this was that machine transplanted? No, no. Is it manual? Is it hand transplanted? Hand transplanted. Oh, each one is a different... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. The technique where a farmer can easily go through this line and... Spray all the time the way you go. And they're waiting... And the finalest replication. Better irritation. And the irritation is the main factor. Because sometime, some disease and insects infest, if they are... Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. very effective. How much do farmers use insecticide? Actually, in the traditional variety they do not use, and not much, but the highly variety, the attack is more. How much do they spray? Generally, they do not spray much. The difference on the island is not very much. More in some cases they use. And 34 especially, blast. You have a problem with that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that time it is very... Do they spray for neck blast? Yeah. What do they spray? Generally, they spray for neck blast, or they spray for neck blast. Plainum, plainum. It is on the company, Plainum. Plainum, yeah, yeah, yeah. It also has a lot of false nuts. Yeah, so how is this... What is the small false nuts looking like these days? Pretty. Oh, no. Is there a lot of small false nuts? Last year it was very... Not this part, but another part. But 10 years ago there was not much false nuts. 10, 15 years. Much earlier I saw false nuts. But maybe 10, 15 years before there was no much. But last year... If you like, we've done 49, and then 34. 23 also, last year. I'm told that you see it because it's very visible. Yeah, it's very obvious. But when you actually count the number of heads or seeds infected, there's something... Well, the only thing I worry about, there are two things I worry about. One is it's seed borne, it could spread from year to year. It could increase. The second thing is we don't know very much about it. Micotoxins. Micotoxins, yeah. So if you take that and you mill it, and you get that in there, you don't know it may be invisible. It's poorly studied. But it's something we have to pay attention to. That's interesting. It's less toxic than ergot. Yeah, it's less toxic. That we know. Yeah, good. It's less toxic. I was trying to think of the diseases that did that. Anthony's fire? Yeah. Ergot disease, yeah. Look, I have some coconut. All right, that sounds great. Great. Enjoy the coconut.