 Okay, so we'll be looking at this usage, this phrase in the Bible which says praying in the spirit. So we need to be clear. Praying in the spirit equals praying in tongues. And how do we know for sure that praying in the spirit equals praying in tongues is, this is the text, 1 Corinthians 14, right, and 14 onwards where Paul explains, while he's explaining, while he's teaching about praying in tongues, he explains and he uses this, you know, he uses this phrase praying with the spirit to refer to praying in tongues, praying with the understanding to refer to praying in your own language. Okay, so he's talking about praying in the spirit, singing with the spirit, and so on. Okay. Okay, so now, so we were looking at, you know, how tongues primarily, you know, it can be used for different uses, but then personal use is for edification and so on. So Paul also, while writing about praying in tongues, he says, he actually lays down some guidelines for how praying in tongues should be when it comes to a public gathering. Okay, so suppose there's a public gathering, now can, the question is, can we still pray in tongues, right, and he actually refers to certain, you know, certain things here and he says, in church gatherings, these are some guidelines. Okay, let's look at, yeah, 1 Corinthians 14 and verse 5. Okay, 1 Corinthians 14 verse 5. Now he's addressing the gathering of people, they have been gathering for prayer, they're gathering for, they're meeting together as a church, so he's, you know, he's addressing that in the sense he's talking to them as they gather together, you know, about tongues, right. So verse 5 he says, I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied, for he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless indeed he interprets that the church may receive, sorry, edification. Okay, so what is he saying here? I wish you all, what is Paul's desire? I wish you all spoke with tongues. Okay, you church, you believers gathering together, my desire is that you all speak with tongues. Okay, so he's saying that. Then he goes on to say, but he who prophesies is greater. So does that mean that prophecy is greater than tongues? It would seem that way, you know, if you just take that line out of context, it would seem that way, that the gift of prophecy is better or greater than the gift of tongues. But what is Paul's intention is saying that he's saying publicly, if somebody gathers together and addresses the gathering in tongues, right, if I speak to you in tongues for five minutes, you might listen, 10 minutes you will get restless, 15 minutes you will just think, hey, what is happening here? Because you don't know how to respond, right. I'm just speaking in tongues into the mic, you know, I'm just speaking in tongues. And then maybe you will also start praying in tongues. But, you know, that could happen. But otherwise, you might be wondering in why what is happening here. And let's say somebody, you know, who is not a believer walks in and sees that. Okay, so Paul is addressing, you know, when you're gathered together as a church, you know, there are certain things that you need to do, there are other things that you should not do. And his intention is saying, in saying that, you know, he who prophesies is greater is because he's saying, when there is prophecy, there is edification. People are encouraged, right. People are built up, encouraged, it says some prophecy results in edification, exhortation, comfort. People are built up, they are encouraged, they are comforted, right, because they are receiving a prophetic word, like God who knows the needs of people, God who knows the current condition of people's hearts, you receive a word, a prophetic word. So whenever you receive a prophetic word, you are encouraged, wow, God spoke, God knows exactly, God knows the details. So that's what he's saying, you know, unless there is interpretation in a public gathering, then the people are not blessed, people are not edified. Okay, that is in verse 5. Let's look at verse 12. Verse 12 he says, even so you, since you are zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the edification of the church that you seek to excel. Verse 12, let's look at verse 11. So he says, therefore, if I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be a foreigner to him who speaks, and he who speaks will be a foreigner to me. In the sense that person is speaking in tongues, I don't understand. I am speaking in tongues that person doesn't understand. So he's saying unless there is interpretation, so that is what he's saying. So he's saying, let it be for the edification of the church. Okay, one more verse, the next verse. Therefore, let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret. Okay, so what is this thing? There's a gathering, people are gathered, you begin to speak in tongues to the people. Pray that you may interpret. Okay, that is the next gift that we are going to look at, interpretation of tongues. So pray that you may interpret so that people may understand and be edified. You know, maybe you're saying some, you know, some prophetic things about the people even as you're praying in tongues. It could be about people's needs, it could be about, it could be a prophetic word even. Right? And then he says there needs to be interpretation. What does interpretation mean? The meaning of it. Right? The meaning of what you're speaking. If it, unless there is an explanation of that, then people are not blessed. Okay, so that is what he's saying. Okay, then, so the question is this, you know, for us as believers, can we pray in tongues when we gather together? Okay, so that is the question, right? You know, as churches, can we gather together, can we pray in tongues? You know, as a fellowship, as believers, as we gather together, can we pray in tongues? The answer is yes. You know, Paul says, if you go on to, let me just share a couple of verses here, right? Yeah, let's look at the same chapter 14, verse 27. Okay, 14 verse 27 he says. Now again, it's a gathering. If anyone speaks in a tongue, so you're gathering, you get up and you speak in a tongue. That's the situation, right? If anyone speaks in a tongue, let there be two or at the most three each in turn and let one interpret. Okay, so here's a speaking in tongue. He's saying, believe God for interpretation and, you know, that is implied and let one interpret. But if there is no interpreter, there is no interpretation, right? What is he saying? Let him keep silent in church. Okay, so which means don't stand up and address the gathering in tongues. Okay, let him keep silent in church. Look at the second part of it. What verse we are looking at? Verse 28. What is the second part of that verse? What does it say? Anyone? Verse 28. Yeah, so he says, let him keep silent in church and let him speak to himself and to God. Okay, so where is this? Where is this happening in the church? People are gathered. So he's saying, if there is no interpretation, let him just pray on his own between himself and God. So he's not saying, don't pray in tongues when you're in church. Hey, you stepped into church? No tongues. He doesn't say that. He says, you pray between yourself and God. Maybe you pray to God, you sing in the spirit, whatever. Let it not be a public addressing in a gathering. Okay, so many people, you know, say no tongues at all in church. Absolutely no tongues. That's not what he's saying. What he's saying is, if it's a public gathering, if it's a public addressing, unless there is interpretation, people are not blessed. So he also says, right? And I'd rather speak, which verse is that? So I'd rather speak a few words that you may understand rather than many words, which you don't understand. So I'm just trying to get that verse. Yeah, verse nine, right? So unless you utter by the tongue words, easy to understand, how will it be known what is spoken for you will be speaking to the air. Right? And then he talks about so many kinds of tongues in the world. He's talking about languages, earthly languages, none of them without significance, etc. Right? So, so then he says that if it's a gathering, let there be interpretation. Otherwise, let him between himself and to God. Let him speak in tongues. That's fine between him and God. Let him pray, let him sing, let him, you know, it's fine. Okay. And Paul says, you know, brothers, you know, I pray in tongues more than you all saying it's not like coming from someone who does not pray in tongues. He said, you know, I do pray in tongues. I pray in tongues more than you all. But in a gathering, I'd rather pray between myself and God unless there is a interpretation. Like we saw that the Clinton Church is a very gifted church. Right? Okay. There's a question. Is it in reference to the person who's preaching or the congregation who is attending? Okay, good question. So he, you know, he's actually talking about the gathering. Right? See, if you look at verse 26, if you read the whole chapter, that's very helpful. So he's talking in context of the gathering. If you look at verse 26, he says, how is it then, brethren, whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation, let all things be done for edification. Okay, so he's talking about a gathering. So he's not specifically talking about a designated preacher or a speaker. Right? He's talking about a gathering. So, you know, obviously it was, maybe it was not such a big gathering as you know, some of the churches that we see today, but it was a, it was a, it was a, maybe they gathered together. I don't know the number. We don't know the numbers, but here it says, you know, each of you, you're coming with the psalm, we're coming with the revelation, coming with the teaching, coming with the tongue, coming with the interpretation. Right? So which means, when we go back to verse chapter 12 and, and you know, verse 11, he says, the one and the same spirit works all these things, distributing to each one. So each one of them who have gathered, distributing to each one, has the wills. Okay, so, so the answer is, yes, he's talking about the whole gathering. He's talking about the utterance of tongues for the whole gathering. He's talking about the interpretation of tongues for the whole gathering. In short, he's talking about the gifts of the spirit for the entire gathering and not just for the designated speaker or a preacher. Okay. I hope that helps. Okay. So, you know, so therefore he is talking about this interpretation. Okay. So, so in the public gathering, it is, you know, let it be with, with interpretation. Okay. And in a public gathering, it could also be that tongues could be a sign for the unbeliever, you know, like how we saw it worked in, accepted through, right? They were unbelievers, which means they were Jews, but they did not believe in the Messiah. But they were there gathered for the feasts of first fruits and feast of the Pentecost. They gathered from surrounding regions. Now, they heard these disciples who are Jewish speak in other languages, their own languages, but they were actually declaring the virtues of God, saying they were praising God in their tongue. You know, one thing is to speak a language. Okay. Speak a language like use of language. You know, how are you? Where are you? You know, what is the time? Okay. An unknown language. Here, they were declaring the praises of God, right? Which means they're, they're talking about God, they're talking about his praises, they're talking about his attributes in that language. So that was a sign for the unbeliever. They heard, they were amazed, they were perplexed. And they, they, they heard Peter preached that message. And at the end of the message, they came, they said, what must we do? Right. So it was a sign for the believer, for the unbeliever, right, about the Messiah. It was a sign for the unbeliever to actually respond, ask question and respond, what should I do now? Like, what should I do to be saved in other words? Like, so it acts as a sign to the unbeliever as well. We've heard many, you know, interesting stories as well, right? Okay, John, as a question, then is it right to speak in tongues in the time of leading worship in the public gathering? Okay, so let's say there's a gathering and then, you know, the worship leaders may be singing in tongues or praying in tongues. Okay. So, so the question is this, you know, what kind of a gathering is it? Is it an outreach meeting, evangelistic meeting, or is it a gathering of believers who, who understand what is happening, who understand the gifts of the Spirit? You know, it's a gathering of believers. So, so we can always say, okay, now we're just between you yourself and God, let's begin to just pray in the spirit, stir yourself up, begin to pray in the spirit, you know, begin to sing in the spirit, you know, stir yourself up and do that, right? So as a church or as a body of believers, we are collectively, you know, getting into the deeper things of God, you know, we are collectively being edified, you know, stirring ourselves up in the spirit, right? So that's, that's fine. That is fine. As long as there is understanding, you can just explain, you know, I know that, you know, all of us brain spirit. And now let's take this time, maybe the next 10 minutes or so to just pray in the spirit, just between you and God, just between you and God, just go ahead and pray in the spirit. So we take the 10 minutes or 15 minutes to just pray, pray out in the spirit, pray in tongues. So that is fine, right? So, you know, some practical things, normally what, you know, I personally, what I do is just encourage people to sing out in tongues, pray in tongues. And, but I, you know, after I do that, I step away from the mic, like I just step behind back, and then begin to pray loudly so that it's, it's doesn't hinder anyone, doesn't, you know, interrupt anyone, doesn't disturb anyone. But I just step away. And I begin to pray in tongues or sing in tongues. That's something that I do, you know, personally, so that it doesn't hinder anyone block it. Okay, we have another question, I think that helps. Blessing, that's fine. Yeah, okay. I rarely or almost never witness anyone interpreting, while someone else is speaking in tongues. Is it correct in saying the gift of interpretation tongues is very rare when compared to the number of people with the gift of tongue speaking in tongues? Okay, so yeah, so it's the same here, I've also not seen too much of it in operation. Maybe this is my opinion, maybe it's because we're not really pursuing. Right? See, what happens is like, when it comes to interpretation of tongues, which is the next topic, in fact, I think we can go there. Okay, next chapter, it's, so what is interpretation of tongues? It is interpretation is simply, you know, it's the explanation or the meaning of something that is uttered, right? And I also want to say that interpretation is different from translation. Okay, how and why you know, translation could be word for word, right? So suppose I say, Hello, the translator will say, what do you say? Hello in Hindi? Hello only? Okay, some other thing, you know, maybe in Tamil, it's a vanaakam. Okay, so say hello or somebody say namaste. So it's word line for line or word for word translation, like when you translate a book, you are actually doing it so that you don't want to miss out the essence of it, you're translating it, you know, this book into other language. So that's translation, interpretation would be a summary of it, right? Could be an explanation, it could be a meaning, and it could be like, what he's actually saying is this, right? It's not a word for word, right? So that's the general understanding translation interpretation. So, okay, so interpretation of tongues will answer is this question, you know, interpretation of tongue can happen, either, you know, when to the same person who's actually praying in tongues or to another person, right? In a public gathering, it could be one, the person who is actually speaking in tongues gets the sense of the meaning of what is being, what he or she is actually praying. Okay, now you might say, okay, why? Maybe we've not, you know, why is this not seen in operation? Maybe we've not exercised that gift, right? Maybe we've not exercised it. You know, how does interpretation, how does interpretation occur? The same way, you know, we looked at the parallel between physical senses and spiritual senses, right? And these gifts are actually related, I mean, are released in the spirit. Now, when there's a sense of knowing, maybe there is a sense of maybe something visual like a picture or a video, or there's a scripture verse that is coming into your heart, even as you're praying in the spirit. Well, that is when we believe God and say, Lord, it says ask for the interpretation, right? So ask for the interpretation. So we ask and the Holy Spirit responds by giving us that interpretation. Maybe we did not really catch it. Right? Maybe we did not really receive that as interpretation. Maybe we just thought, okay, some random thing, right? So consciously, if we would exercise it, right, it would be, it is possible. And also, I think, given the size of the churches today, you know, size of gathering, let's say, even if it's more than 20, 20 people or 30 people in a gathering, you know, it becomes, it becomes slightly difficult to actually exercise it, you know, let's say you have a gathering of maybe 350 to 400 people, just think about it, right? People cannot be audible, they either they should grab a mic or something. So it is, you know, it just doesn't become feasible, right? So, so one of the things is that we've not really pursued it, maybe, right? But I've seen it, you know, I've seen it where the person herself prays over another person praying in tongues, and with interpretation, you know, this is what God's saying, you know, this is what it is, my son, my daughter, and so on. So I've seen the same person intubating. And I've also heard of, you know, this particular instance, you know, one of our youth gatherings where somebody prayed in the spirit, and they knew that this was what it was. And then they got permission to share, you know, this is what I sense is the interpretation of the spirit. And I think one, one time, I'm sure it must be there in the, you know, in our archives video, that one time when, when, when Pasha asked me to pray in tongues, I said, Okay, let me sing in tongues. So I sang in tongues. It was at the end of the service. And then, and then he interpreted it. And what he shared really witnessed with my spirit, right? When I was praying, singing in tongues, I just felt, right, okay, this is what it could be. And he, he kind of interpreted it after I sang out. And he said, this is, this is what I sense in my spirit, the meaning of the gist of what was sung, and it witnessed with my spirit. Now, yeah, so, yeah, so that would be my response. I think, Shani, you've got your hands raised. Yeah, we'll, I'll just come back to it, come back to you, Shani, one second. One more question. Does this essentially mean praying and understanding can never be considered as praying in the spirit? Yeah. That phrase, that usage praying in the spirit, you know, is, is praying in tongues, according to New Testament scripture, okay, praying in the Holy Spirit, and Ephesians, you know, praying with all praying and supplication in the spirit, Ephesians six, one contains 14, 18, you know, pray of 14 onwards, pray the spirit, pray the understanding. So that is how they understood it. But you know, when we pray with the understanding, can the Holy Spirit lead us to pray for other matters, right? Pray for the, you know, the future of the country, pray for the economy, and you're praying in your own language. Absolutely. The Holy Spirit can lead us to do that. But that usage praying in the spirit, according to, you know, the New Testament church and, and what we scriptures that we see refers to, praying in tongues, right? That is what I was mentioning. Okay, Yashini, your question, please. Yeah, I just, I want to make sure I have an understanding because I know a lot of churches don't believe, don't believe in like speaking in tongues, because you suppose I have an interpreter to say it. So you're saying that if you're at church, and you're speaking in tongues are at home, it's okay. But I want to make sure I'm getting understanding. But when you are in front and speaking to like the audience, and you're speaking in tongues, then somebody there should be interpreting. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. So, so there could be two scenarios. One, I'm addressing a gathering, it could be a mixed crowd, could be, you know, in a church. So we have believers, we have unbelievers in the meeting. So, you know, when I'm, when I'm praying in a tongue or speaking in a tongue, and addressing the crowd, they, how are people blessed only with interpretation? Right? So it's, it's more from the context of it from for the edification of those who are gathered. So that is the, that is Paul's intention. He's not saying that if you pray in a tongue, you're sinning. He's not saying that. He's saying, you know, people will be blessed only if there is interpretation. Right. And he's saying, do everything in an orderly manner without confusion. Right. So, so that's the thing. So people are blessed only when there is interpretation. People are edified. Scenario number two could be, let's say we are gathered for prayer. And most or all who have gathered are, you know, people who are under, who have that understanding of what praying in tongues is all about, you know, let's say like a Bible college prayer time gathering, you know, we know what this is. And then if someone who is leading that particular meeting says, you know, let's all together pray in tongues. Let's lift our voices and pray in tongues. Let's lift our voices and sing in tongues. You know, that could be a second scenario, which is, which is permitted, which is possible. And it can be a time of edification. Right. And there's, there's no need for interpretation at that time where each person is personally between them and the Lord, they are praying and they're pursuing, you know, the presence and power of God, and they're saying, God, I want to be edified. And so they are praying in the spirit and singing in the spirit. Okay, and I just, I just want, okay, so that clears it up. And then I think you said that when you interpret, like when somebody is interpreting, you said that a picture may appear. That's how I thought you said, I wasn't sure if you said that I need to clarification on that. And then also too, when you gave the example about somebody praying for somebody, so you can, you could be speaking in tongues and you can be the one interpreting, even though you're praying over somebody else, I just wanted clarification. Right. Right. Yes. So the interpret, so who interprets, it could be yourself. And it could be yourself if you're praying in tongues, you could receive the interpretation, or it could be another person or maybe multiple people who receive the interpretation in their spirit, when, when they hear somebody praying in in trance, right? Because that is the gift of interpretation against, again, it's a work of the Holy Spirit, bringing interpretation to people. So it could be like, you know, maybe we could, you know, work or demonstrate it and maybe pursue it, right? And it will be for the edification of the church. And also, what about a picture showing, did you say something like sometimes if the image may show in terms of you, in terms of you interpreting what somebody said, did you say that I wasn't clear? I'm sorry. Sorry. I thought you said I was writing, but I thought that you said that sometimes when you're interpreting, it may not be kind of words like you might get an image. Did you say that? Yeah, so I was talking about how, how one can receive that interpretation. Like it could be words, it could be images, it could be a prompting, it could be, you know, just like how we've talked about the parallel between the natural, like how we receive information from the natural world. And we saw that how, you know, in the spirit, we have what do you call sense organs, or that is how we receive, you know, in the spirit as well. And the Holy Spirit speaks to us in dreams, visions, and, and that's, that seems to be the language of the spirit. So the Holy, we need to be mindful of what the Holy Spirit is putting in our hearts and the interpretation that could come in that way also. Yeah. Okay, thank you. Right? Okay. Okay, so to be looking at interpretation of tongues, right? Okay, so it's, so it's not word for word. For example, you know, somebody could be praying in, you know, maybe it could be like two, three sentences, and the interpretation could be one sentence. Right? So it's actually a summary, it could be, you know, it could be something which is very compacted, right? It could be like that also, because it is not translation, right? It's, it could be a summary of it. It could be a meaning of it, which is, which is given. So, so we don't have to think, Okay, this person spoke three sentences. Now the interpretation is just one sentence. Now how is that? Because it's interpretation, it's not translation. Or it could be like, that person just spoke a line or a phrase in tongues, and how come the interpretation is so much more, right? It is interpretation, there is explanation and so on, right? Okay, fine. So, so does this have a biblical precedent? Okay, now in the Old Testament, like we don't see that, we don't see any direct expression of that, but we do see something where there is interpretation in terms of words, especially when Daniel was actually in the court of Belshazzar, right? Where there is this hand supernatural act of God coming in, writing something, it's a completely unknown language, right? There are many learned men, the king is obviously scared, because it happened right there, they could not explain it, and it's on the wall, you know, just imagine, this wall behind there's a hand, big hand comes and writes out something, right? Everybody's saying, Hey, is that your language? You know, do you understand it? No, no, no. And then the somebody says, Hey, there's Daniel. So Daniel comes and then he interprets it. You know, this is the meaning, right? He says many, many tekel upah sin, and then he goes on to give the meaning of that your days are numbered, etc. Right. So we see that in the Old Testament, but however we don't see the way it is in the New Testament, we don't see it, right? Okay, biblical, new example, New Testament example, obviously, in one Corinthians, so Paul felt the necessity to teach them and how they should do it, right? He said one or two people take turns to pray in tongues and then let there be interpretation. So, so obviously, we can conclude that this was happening in the Corinthian church, right? This was happening in Corinth, in the church. And therefore, he felt that, Hey, guys, you know, instead of everybody, you know, just just creating some kind of chaos, you know, let's do it in order. You know, you, you stand up, you speak up and let someone interpret, right? So he gives that so we see that. How, how does it help? Okay, so it helps the believer where we know, you know, we, let's say, maybe we are, let's say, for personal use, right? You are praying in tongues yourself and then you are saying, Lord, you give me the meaning of it, you give me the interpretation of it, right? I'm speaking something, right? The Bible talks about how when we pray in tongues, one, we are personally edified, one contains 14, he says, you know, we are also speaking mysteries, right? Things that we things that are there, that we do not yet understand, you know, when we are praying, we don't know what we should pray for, but we begin to pray the Holy Spirit prays, right? So we ask the Lord, Lord, give me an understanding, give me the interpretation, that the gifts of interpretation also be made manifest. And just like how the Holy Spirit would speak to us, now this is something that we need to, again, grow in, right? And, and learn to learn to flow in it. So we receive that, and then we, we share, we share or we speak it out ourselves, if we are just by ourselves, we speak it out, you know, so it could be a flow of, you know, you pray in tongues, and then you begin to, alternatively, you pray or speak out in your known language, right? And then you pray again in tongues, and then you pray, speak out in a known language, or you pray in tongues, and you wait for something, you know, to bubble up on the inside, where the Holy Spirit places, there may be a scripture verse, maybe, you know, like we said, there could be other things, you know, the Holy Spirit is prompting, maybe something pictorial, maybe a scripture verse, maybe, you know, something that is putting in, and we can either speak that out, or maybe we can even write it out. Yeah, there's a good way. So maybe this week, you can try that out, right? Till we meet in the next class, you can try that out, pray, it could be for your plans, understanding your purposes, it could be maybe for something that we've been praying about, some important decision, it could be, you know, revelation of scripture, understanding of scripture, right? It could be all that. So it's all exciting, maybe to receive inspiration, creative ideas and strategies. So it's not just for, you know, ministry or something spiritual, but spiritual in nature, you know, when I say spiritual nature, I'm talking about something to do with scripture verses or understanding of it. But it could be also for, you know, practical use in the world outside, in the marketplace, maybe you're a businessman, maybe you're a, you know, person, you know, I was just listening to a podcast as I was coming and then, so this is about this person who, who receives this, you know, it's more to do with prophetic dream, but I'm just sharing that, you know, who received this dream, or he saw this vision as he was sleeping, but it was just three or four letters. Okay, I think it does ADV something. So he woke up, he Googled it. Now this guy was an engineer, right? He Googled it and he's, and it actually referred to a branch of study or some algorithm. And he, he actually did that for, he was actually, you know, doing his master's in engineering. So he did research on that he, he presented a paper on that and he got invited, he says he got invited to speak in the army, the Navy, because he had served in the military after doing his bachelor's and, and how did this come? Information come, right? In a dream, he was a believer, right? Spiritful believer wanting to go for missions, etc. But God said, you know, you stay there and I have, you know, purpose in the engineering field in the engineering industry. And, and this is how it happened. Okay, so it's not all that to say that it's not just for within the four walls of the church, or, you know, something to do with understand better understand all that is there, but it's also for practical use in terms of maybe inventions and, you know, new things, innovations in the marketplace, right? Okay, so, so we, that's that is tongues and interpretation. So for personal, you know, personal use, and also, when it comes to a public gathering, we follow this, you know, we follow these guidelines. What is it? Unless there is an interpretation, do not, you know, address the crowd, you know, if you feel a sense that yes, there will be an interpretation, you know, you go ahead and address, or, you know, we address and then wait for interpretation. Now, that's a scary thing, right? Suppose, you know, students are there and people are watching online and I say, you know, let's, I just, I just feel like praying right now in the spirit and, you know, releasing these words in the spirit in tongues. And I say, you know, I believe that God will give you the interpretation. So why don't you, as you receive the interpretation, why don't you just speak it out? And I'm just waiting. And everybody's like, okay, when does this class get over, right? It's a, it's a scary thing. But I think we should do it, right? And like, as to ask that question, you know, why is it not, I think we're not pursuing that, enough, right? And in all these gifts of the spirit, it's an act of faith, we step out in faith. And we grow, you know, we learn, we grow, a part of learning is also making mistakes, right? And, and admitting that that is why, you know, Paul writes about test all things, like this testing is also part of the prophetic is also part of the gifting and of the spiritual gifts. And like we said, you know, it doesn't mean that God's gift is efficient in any way. Right? We're not saying that God's give something wrong with it. That's therefore, therefore we need to test. No, it just means that God's gift is perfect because he is perfect, he is good. But we as human beings, when we receive, you know, we have our own prejudices, biases, our own wrong understanding, maybe, right? Therefore, we test, we test according to God's Word based on the Word of God. Can this be God? Hey, he's asking, I'm getting this idea to go rob a bank. Can this be God? What do you think? Go rob a bank and give it to the poor. Pay off all the Bible college students fees. Go rob a bank. Can this be God? Obviously no, because Psalm 23 says that he leads me in parts of righteousness. So is this the righteous path to go rob a bank? Obviously no. So we drop that idea. That's not God. Okay, so that is why we have this whole thing of testing. Okay, let's move on to the next gift. Prophecy. Okay. So we're looking at the third one, prophecy. So prophecy, if you want to simply define it or define it in a very simple way is God speaking to man through man. Okay, God wants to speak. God is a speaking God. God is a real God. It's not just a theoretical idea. God speaks. God is speaking to people through people. So people are his mouth pieces, and they share or they share what God is putting in their hearts. So it does not, you know, we need to understand it. It's not about good preaching. It's not about being a very good orator, right? It is about being sensitive to what God is saying and putting in our hearts and being faithful to it. It could be passing on a message. It could be, you know, doing something, right? You obey God says you give this and you receive it. It's a prophetic act, right? You receive and you receive that instruction and you do it. So that's prophecy, right? Okay, so what happens? Simply, prophecy brings edification, exhortation and comfort. How do we know that? One convinced 14 and verse three, but he who prophesies speaks edification, exhortation and comfort to men. Okay, so edification means there is spiritually or built up exhortation, there's encouragement, comfort is, you know, consolation and you're greatly comforted, right? It also has other elements. The prophetic word would have also other elements like we see in scripture that it could involve correction. Nathan, prophet Nathan, God used all the other prophets in the Old Testament to bring correction to Kings, right? Or to other people, bring correction. What you're doing is wrong, right? It could be direction or revelation, you know, they would go and ask the prophets, what should we do? King Jehoshaphat, right? They went, what should we do? And Elisha, he gave them direction, right? So we see this. So, you know, entire scripture first Peter three, first Peter, second Peter one talks about that scripture is itself is prophetic or inspired by God. Okay, so it's a, it's from the heart of God inspired by God. So the word of God itself is prophetic in nature. Okay, okay. So Old Testament, we see several examples, right? Any Old Testament examples of people being prophesying that you can think of specific instances, anything? Old Testament examples, how someone went and prophesied to another person? Anyone? Old Testament, Genesis to Malachi examples. First, prophet Elijah. Prophet? Prophet Elijah, he spoke to King Jehoshaphat about the false prophets. He prophesied. Right. Right. And also, since you mentioned, you know, Elijah about rain, right? Yeah. Yeah. He prophesied that, Hey, there's going to be famine. And then, yeah, there's no rain. And then he said, there will be rain. And then he, there was rain, right? So the Old Testament actually full of prophets, full of prophecies, right? It's all dead, right? You want to say something on the prophets only? Yeah. So, right. So, so, so we have, you know, there's an Old Testament president, right? And then several examples in the New Testament also, you know, when we, when we started this, this subject, this course, we looked at how, you know, before the, the work of the Holy Spirit, just before Jesus arrived on the scene, right? And we see that there was a lot of prophecy happening, right? John the Baptist's father, Zechariah, you know, he, he prophesied over his own son, right? And then Elizabeth, she prophesied. Who, who did she prophesy over? Elizabeth? About Mary. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Mary. So what did she prophesy? She said, you know, it's interesting. She said, how is it that the mother of my Lord has come to meet me? Right? She, she, she, she's prophesying over Mary. Now, Mary did not tell Elizabeth that she was expecting, she was carrying. Okay, somebody's, is that here? Okay. Okay. So she did not tell Mary that she was, that Mary was, Mary did not tell Elizabeth that she was expecting, right? But it so happened that Elizabeth knew how did she know by the Holy Spirit. So we see all those instances. Elizabeth will fill to this Holy Spirit prophesied to Mary, Zechariah, Simeon prophesied. Anna was a prophetess, she prophesied. You know, John the Baptist, the Lord Jesus himself, he many times, right? Now what I can read, you know, immediately comes to my mind is he saw Nathaniel. And he said, there's a man, you know, in whom there is no guy. Okay. So he meets Nathaniel and he says, here's a man who in whom there is no guy. And then Nathaniel is, is amazed. He said, how do you know me? We haven't met before. How do you know me? Then he says that before, you know, before I saw you, I saw you actually, you know, under that tree and, and so on. So he had this image of, so the prophetic gift was working in him as well. And we know that everything that Jesus did was by the anointing of the Holy Spirit. And so, you know, we see that in operation. Okay, then we look at the early church, right, several instances. Again, you know, starting with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, the Old Testament prophecy of the Prophet Joel, which Peter actually referred to, okay, in the message in the sermon. And he says, you know, this is what will happen when there's an outpouring of the Holy Spirit. What are the things that your sons and your daughters will prophesy? Okay, your sons and your daughters will prophesy. So this prophetic is something for everybody. Okay, it's a gift of the Spirit. Just like we said, gifts of the Spirit are for all believers. Okay, now we'll, you know, we've also learned that there is the ministry gift and the gifts of the Spirit. There's a difference. Some are called to the ministry office or ministry responsibility, and therefore the ministry gift, but all are called for this walking in this gifts of the Spirit to receive and experience and to move in the gifts of the Spirit. Okay. Okay, so several New Testament examples, right? So which means that this applies for us today as well. Okay, so don't discount. Oh, it was there, New Testament times, it was there, an Old Testament times. It's applied, it's applicable for today's church, okay, for us today. Okay, so that's all we have time for today. And I'm, we'll wind up today, and we'll come back next week. And then we'll look at the rest of the, so the Spirit. Thank you so much. God bless.